New acorn fittings

Dtp79

What's plumbers views on these new fittings? I personally can't stand them. There not a patch on the old acorn fittings in my opinion.

K.Flyer

Never liked Acorn myself, fittings too bulky for my liking. Newer stuff looks neater, but I'm a multi-layer convert now.

MidlandsM

the new wedge works well, if you use them right and drive them "home" properly, thats why lads don't like the new one because they dont use them properly.

corkgsxr

Techtite only for testing. Compression otherwise. Thats it for me

Dtp79

I have on 3 seperate occasions pulled the pipe out of the new fittings when they were put in correctly. Much weaker grab ring in them than the old ones

corkgsxr

Never forget I was a first year apprentice. Was involved with the cleanup after the blue ring cheap version of techtite blew off after a booster pump. Apartment right at the top. They were away for the weekend.

Hoovering water for about 4 days in the unoccupied officed below

Dtp79

corkgsxr wrote: »

Never forget I was a first year apprentice. Was involved with the cleanup after the blue ring cheap version of techtite blew off after a booster pump. Apartment right at the top. They were away for the weekend.

Hoovering water for about 4 days in the unoccupied officed below

I tell ya it's only a matter of time with these ones too!

Dtp79

MidlandsM wrote: »

the new wedge works well, if you use them right and drive them "home" properly, thats why lads don't like the new one because they dont use them properly.

The wedge me arse! How do you use the wedge of 2 fittings are close together? Or how to you check the pipe is properly inserted if 2 fittings are close. How do you turn the pipe to feel the ridges on the insert? They're a bigger, uglier, weaker, Unuser friendly fitting. Jesus have you seen the size of the 3/4" tap connectors?? A hydrodare fitting would be tidier

QBE

corkgsxr wrote: »

Never forget I was a first year apprentice.

a long long time ago.:rolleyes:

what comes after apprentice. amateur or novice.:


can plumbers even use a blowtorch or spanners now. jesus house wifes could do your job these days. only a few good lads left. the rest of the good lads you would have dig them up.

Dtp79

QBE wrote: »

a long long time ago.:rolleyes:

what comes after apprentice. amateur or novice.:


can plumbers even use a blowtorch or spanners now. jesus house wifes could do your job these days. only a few good lads left. the rest of the good lads you would have dig them up.

I'm well able to weld, solder and braze just like many of us are here. This thread is about comparing the new acorn fitting to the old.

jimf

QBE wrote: »

a long long time ago.:rolleyes:

what comes after apprentice. amateur or novice.:


can plumbers even use a blowtorch or spanners now. jesus house wifes could do your job these days. only a few good lads left. the rest of the good lads you would have dig them up.

what has this comment got to do with the topic are we back to this again ????

esox28

the new ac are in no way as versitle as old stuff, one example if you were short a 3/4 x 1/2 reducer just get a 3/4 1/2 1/2 and put the stainless blank plate in the branch, also for testing used to buy a shed load of elbows and blank plates cause at least when your finished you've not left with 30 blank caps in the van going missing. the old stuff was just hander and imo more secure. Don't really have much call for ac fittings to dear the vw is full with brass and ac piping and copper. That's the way I roll for the moment.

esox28

QBE wrote: »

a long long time ago.:rolleyes:

what comes after apprentice. amateur or novice.:


can plumbers even use a blowtorch or spanners now. jesus house wifes could do your job these days. only a few good lads left. the rest of the good lads you would have dig them up.

...hahahaa

QBE

I read some where a long time back that acorn fittings and piping was banned in certain parts of the usa. so that says enough about that plastic crap for me.


however that qualpex aint bad in tight spots on domestic small jobs. but dont know about them loosey push on things. ill stick with the instanter with a bit of silicone on the olive . if i had to use plastic.

QBE

Dtp79 wrote: »

I'm well able to weld, solder and braze just like many of us are here. This thread is about comparing the new acorn fitting to the old.

ah your proper ole stock.

bet you know how to thatch a roof and weld a lead apron around the chimney stack after the thatch has been installed .

KoolKid

Infraction for QBE.
You are only back from serving a ban and you seen determined to continue where you left off.
Either be civil and respectful to other members or we can make it longer.
Last warning.

Mutha

QBE wrote: »

I read some where a long time back that acorn fittings and piping was banned in certain parts of the usa. so that says enough about that plastic crap for me.


however that qualpex aint bad in tight spots on domestic small jobs. but dont know about them loosey push on things. ill stick with the instanter with a bit of silicone on the olive . if i had to use plastic.

Silicone? Jeez.............

QBE

Mutha wrote: »

Silicone? Jeez.............

i said on the olive.... whats wrong with that.... will it corode the brass. love to hear your opinion.

it makes the fitting water tight and i guarantee you will never get as much as a weep from them and guess what ........ you dont even need to be an rgi to do this and the world wont end in an explosion due to this.....................jeez?

Dtp79

Mutha wrote: »

Silicone? Jeez.............

+1

MidlandsM

Dtp79 wrote: »

The wedge me arse!

interesting the way you bring your arse into the discussion? you ok there?

corkgsxr

Dtp79 wrote: »

I'm well able to weld, solder and braze just like many of us are here. This thread is about comparing the new acorn fitting to the old.

QBE wrote: »

a long long time ago.:rolleyes:

what comes after apprentice. amateur or novice.:


can plumbers even use a blowtorch or spanners now. jesus house wifes could do your job these days. only a few good lads left. the rest of the good lads you would have dig them up.

Em not that long about 7 years. And I can solder soft and hard. Braize very well (long as its not those prefluxed rods useless yokes) and mig tig and arc stainless and mildsteel. Only mild steel for oxy.

Dtp79 wrote: »

+1

Id be a firm hock white man myself. Not fond of ptfe. Or the likes of uniwhite

Dtp79

MidlandsM wrote: »

interesting the way you bring your arse into the discussion? you ok there?

Oh I apologise for my foul language.
Fittings are still crap though

esox28

Id be a firm hock white man myself. Not fond of ptfe. Or the likes of uniwhite[/QUOTE]

Uniwhite all the way......

Hock white only for sandwiches.

esox28

corkgsxr wrote: »

Em not that long about 7 years. And I can solder soft and hard. Braize very well (long as its not those prefluxed rods useless yokes) and mig tig and arc stainless and mildsteel. Only mild steel for oxy.






Id be a firm hock white man myself. Not fond of ptfe. Or the likes of uniwhite

QBE wrote: »

i said on the olive.... whats wrong with that.... will it corode the brass. love to hear your opinion.

it makes the fitting water tight and i guarantee you will never get as much as a weep from them and guess what ........ you dont even need to be an rgi to do this and the world wont end in an explosion due to this.....................jeez?

What if you need to redo a fitting isent silcone kinda permanent. ?..:p

Dtp79

esox28 wrote: »

What if you need to redo a fitting isent silcone kinda permanent. ?..:p

I've taken apart fittings quite easily before that had silicone. We had a good laugh doing it. Thought it was some enthusiastic DIYer that did them originally

QBE

esox28 wrote: »

What if you need to redo a fitting isent silcone kinda permanent. ?..:p

makes no sense.

anyway if your as good as me self. never have to redo

Dtp79

QBE wrote: »

makes no sense.

anyway if your as good as me self. never have to redo

I'm pretty sure some silicones corrode copper

QBE

Dtp79 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure some silicones corrode copper

what has copper got to do with this subject?

Dtp79

QBE wrote: »

what has copper got to do with this subject?

My mistake QBE. I thought you said you put silicone on the olives of compression fittings

QBE

Dtp79 wrote: »

My mistake QBE. I thought you said you put silicone on the olives of compression fittings

yes i said olives. some are made from copper. please define your theory

or is this more poisoned candy

your friends might help you out....anthonyos, Dtp79, esox28, jimf. more similar brains like yours work better

by the way im not just a plumber. a lot more qbe than that

Dtp79

QBE wrote: »

yes i said olives. some are made from copper. please define your theory

or is this more poisoned candy

your friends might help you out....anthonyos, Dtp79, esox28, jimf. more similar brains like yours work better

by the way im not just a plumber. a lot more qbe than that

Are you ok? You seem to row with everybody here? Do you think it's all us?? There's only one common denominator here and that's you.

Mutha

QBE wrote: »

i said on the olive.... whats wrong with that.... will it corode the brass. love to hear your opinion.

it makes the fitting water tight and i guarantee you will never get as much as a weep from them and guess what ........ you dont even need to be an rgi to do this and the world wont end in an explosion due to this.....................jeez?

Nothing wrong with it as far as I know just seems more awkward rather than using uniwhite etc.

QBE

Dtp79 wrote: »

Are you ok? You seem to row with everybody here? Do you think it's all us?? There's only one common denominator here and that's you.

Mutha wrote: »

Nothing wrong with it as far as I know just seems more awkward rather than using uniwhite etc.

i like you mutha. a decent lad with cop on.

a lot on this forum is poisoned candy

KoolKid

QBE. It appears you are unwilling to learn to be civil and courteous to others despite continued requests.There are plenty of well qualified plumbers here who give their time freely to help others. They will no be spoken down to by you or anyone else. Your sarcastic smart comments are not helpful and are not wanted here.
Banned for 2 weeks.
If we have to increase this to permanent we will.

Dtp79

KoolKid wrote: »

QBE. It appears you are unwilling to learn to be civil and courteous to others despite continued requests.There are plenty of well qualified plumbers here who give their time freely to help others. They will no be spoken down to by you or anyone else. Your sarcastic smart comments are not helpful and are not wanted here.
Banned for 2 weeks.
If we have to increase this to permanent we will.

You're busy tonight!! Good job and well said

K.Flyer

Silicone on fittings reminds me of when we were asked to move an old gb gas pipe that came up through the middle of the floor under a stairs and was in the owners way. It had been capped off some years previous by someone who just filled the cap with silicone and tightened it up tight!!

gifted

Worked with a crowd in Kerry years ago and the plumbers used put silicone on the 4" sewer pipe and fittings instead of lubricant..they swore by it...I swore blindly when I had to move a few of their pipes...sweat beating off me head trying to pull the fittings apart..:)

jimf

just wondering would qbe and heinbloed be twins ?????? anyway peace again for 2 weeks love and peace has been restored

KoolKid

Checked that, could not find any evidence.
Update. QBE permanently banned from here.

esox28

What ever happened to heinbloed, I remember him from years back fountain of knowledge on some thing, terrible tempered, gas fella as well.

Silacone on soil fittings the only job to go get the hand saw start again, great job but what about the guy who has to make changes.

Anyone using red stag anymore?

KoolKid

esox28 wrote: »

What ever happened to heinbloed,

He went the same way as QBE. Knew his stuff , but couldn't hold a civil conversation with anyone. No matter what qualifications you have , it does not give you the right to talk down to anyone.

Dtp79

KoolKid wrote: »

He went the same way as QBE. Knew his stuff , but couldn't hold a civil conversation with anyone. No matter what qualifications you have , it does not give you the right to talk down to anyone.

There's actually a name for that type of person. For the life of me I can't think of it

corkgsxr

gifted wrote: »

Worked with a crowd in Kerry years ago and the plumbers used put silicone on the 4" sewer pipe and fittings instead of lubricant..they swore by it...I swore blindly when I had to move a few of their pipes...sweat beating off me head trying to pull the fittings apart..:)

Griffin glue is used by some too. Good luck moving that

esox28 wrote: »

What ever happened to heinbloed, I remember him from years back fountain of knowledge on some thing, terrible tempered, gas fella as well.

Silacone on soil fittings the only job to go get the hand saw start again, great job but what about the guy who has to make changes.

Anyone using red stag anymore?

I do if on oil lines. What do ye use

corkgsxr

Dtp79 wrote: »

There's actually a name for that type of person. For the life of me I can't think of it

Sheldon?

esox28

Boss white... The red stag is great stuff creates a gasket type seal if you follow the instructions, but who waits for it to dry.

Also using a twineflon string 'think that's what it is anyway' get it in from a gas supplys place in UK, perfect for oil treaded fittings and solar, stable in temp up to 250*.

esox28

KoolKid wrote: »

He went the same way as QBE. Knew his stuff , but couldn't hold a civil conversation with anyone. No matter what qualifications you have , it does not give you the right to talk down to anyone.

oh yea...

He did love an argument.

Dtp79

corkgsxr wrote: »

Sheldon?

Brilliant!! Not sure everyone will get that though!

jimf

personally i dont understand why these people come on boards qbe came on here approx 6 weeks ago with a few questions re fga suppliers and where to get some spares in cork i pm him all details i had and he seemed thankful 2 days later he starts fighting with 1 and all and if their is 1 thing that pisses me off its a person that thinks they know it all advise is advise and we all need it from time to time me more than most but jesus when somebody talks down to you in his manner it really takes the biscuit what odds he pops up in some other forum shortly