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Report neighbour with no insurance?

  • 20-05-2013 01:25PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭


    I know this is a very old post but I find my self in a similar situation to the op .my neighbours car has no tax since oct 2012 no Nct since dec 2012 and no insurance with the last two weeks that's what the discs on the windscreen say.the car is being driven daily and has been driven under the influence of alcohol.not only am I annoyed because we pay our dues and so should this driver but its being driven in a built up area with plenty kids.i know I should report it but will it achieve anything and also would the guards actually have to catch the driver while driving it ??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭IK09


    Am i being a bit too nice in saying maybe you should write the guy a letter and tell him that you will report him if it is not taxed and insured by the end of the month?

    Maybe he never pays it/ maybe he just cant afford it, but give the man a choice, play by the rules or get reported. I know he's breaking the law but offer him the chance to right his wrong before you hand him over.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭mathepac


    IK09 wrote: »
    Am i being a bit too nice in saying maybe you should write the guy a letter and tell him that you will report him if it is not taxed and insured by the end of the month? ...
    This is the real-world equivalent of back-seat modding IMHO. OP needs to report his/her suspicions to the local Garda station (mod) and let them deal with it appropriately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭IK09


    "Back-seat modding"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭AlanG


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    FYI - The Gardai will tend to do nothing.
    I cannot understand why they won't. Anyone got any ideas???

    Call to the station and make an official complaint. Be sure to do it when the uninsured car is on a public road and not in a driveway as it is not illegal to have an uninsured and untaxed car on private land.

    Politely ask for the officer’s reg number when you make a complaint either in person or on the phone. You will see a different attitude.

    If you ring 999 and report it as an offence in progress then they will have a record and you are also more likely to see action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Moved out from an old thread.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    with except of the alledged drink driving you outline, you are one sad nosey neighbour Uisce .... get a life


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    with except of the alledged drink driving you outline, you are one sad nosey neighbour Uisce .... get a life
    Would you say the same when a drunk uninsured driver crashed into you?

    And you found out someone knew but didn't report it?

    The tax and nct I couldnt give a crap about - but everyone needs insurance and no-one should get away with driving drunk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭The Bishop Basher


    I wouldn't report him for the tax or the NCT. I would be more miffed about the insurance but still not enough to report him. If I saw him climb in the car drunk I wouldn't hesitate to call the guards.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Would you say the same when a drunk uninsured driver crashed into you?

    And you found out someone knew but didn't report it?

    The tax and nct I couldnt give a crap about - but everyone needs insurance and no-one should get away with driving drunk.


    it never takes long for the high horse brigade to romp up, with the "whats if's" ....


    ...the OP's a nosey saddo

    Mod note: user banned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    Short of the drink driving (if you are 100% sure)

    I wouldn't be reporting anyone for no tax or nct myself, fook id be shooting myself in the foot :pac:

    How do you know he's not driving on extension from another insurance policy?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 18,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Never mind discs - if I knew someone was habitually driving uninsured I'd be inclined to report it.

    Drunk driving? I'd report that immediately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭taytothief


    I would suggest you mind your own business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,887 ✭✭✭GTE


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    you are one sad nosey neighbour Uisce .... get a life

    Terrible attitude.

    OP, do whatever needs to be done. The insurance is the line being crossed for me. The drink driving is a no brainer. This thread will soon descend into a big aul argument but to be fair, if there are reasons why this person doesn't have updated discs then let him prove it. It is not a big thing IMO.

    My wagon is off the road at the moment but I would no problem in someone ignorant to that fact noticing the tax disc and asking questions. Because I am away from home a lot the transition from one insurance policy to another could result in the insurance disc not being put into the car immediately, again a perfectly good reason for someone to question what is going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,944 ✭✭✭pete4130


    No Tax, No NCT....hurts the government.

    No insurance...potential to hurt other people

    Drunk driving....exponential increase in hurting other people. Coupled with no insurance. Bad news.

    It's that black and white.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Snitch


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    it never takes long for the high horse brigade to romp up, with the "whats if's" ....


    ...the OP's a nosey saddo

    Mod note: user banned.
    Glad to see the deserved ban for that silly comment

    Hardly a high horse comment tbf, no insurance hurts all of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭lanber man


    Yeah theres a chinese around the corner from me. I reported a delivery driver before for not having tax insurance or nct. Noticed again that the tax and insurance are 3 months out of date. Think ill report him half feel guilty though. Last time I reported him I never saw that car again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 450 ✭✭taytothief


    Yeah theres a chinese around the corner from me. I reported a delivery driver before for not having tax insurance or nct. Noticed again that the tax and insurance are 3 months out of date. Think ill report him half feel guilty though. Last time I reported him I never saw that car again

    You'd make a good Stalinist citizen, reporting people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭h3000


    pete4130 wrote: »
    No Tax, ....hurts the government.

    Hurts us all. If they don't get it this way they will hit our pockets somehow. I've to pay my tax and expect everyone else to do the same.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭uisce33


    There's really no need for insults I only asked a question.but I suppose it's ok so long as its not any of the negative posters that this driver hurts or worse.i did mention a built up area with kids and an uninsured car that's not passed a test to prove it even fit to be on the road.think about it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭Ronnie Beck


    uisce33 wrote: »
    There's really no need for insults I only asked a question.but I suppose it's ok so long as its not any of the negative posters that this driver hurts or worse.i did mention a built up area with kids and an uninsured car that's not passed a test to prove it even fit to be on the road.think about it.


    Report away. Let us now if the guards do something about it.

    He will have to be caught on the road but don't expect a stakeout.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    uisce33 wrote: »
    There's really no need for insults I only asked a question.but I suppose it's ok so long as its not any of the negative posters that this driver hurts or worse.i did mention a built up area with kids and an uninsured car that's not passed a test to prove it even fit to be on the road.think about it.


    Sure why bother posting a question if you already know the answer?

    think about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Merry Prankster


    pete4130 wrote: »
    No Tax, No NCT....hurts the government.

    No insurance...potential to hurt other people

    Drunk driving....exponential increase in hurting other people. Coupled with no insurance. Bad news.

    It's that black and white.


    Eh? How does dodging road tax or NCT hurt the government? Any tax the government collects is sourced from the taxpayers of the land, and any shortfall affects all of those taxpayers, not the government. NCT ensures that all cars meet minimum safety and environmental standards - issues that affect everyone in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,585 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    Glad to see the deserved ban for that silly comment

    Hardly a high horse comment tbf, no insurance hurts all of us.

    Disagree with your first point but agree with your second.

    OP make sure you know for definite the car is being used. It wouldn't surprise me if your neighbour finds out you reported them and you could end up dealing with an angry neighbour then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    charlemont wrote: »
    Snitch
    taytothief wrote: »
    You'd make a good Stalinist citizen, reporting people.
    Banned from this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,433 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Report him/her. Driving without insurance is just a F.U. to all other road users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,026 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    If you ask me, I don't really know where to stand on this. On one hand, what most posters pointed out is indeed valid; While the "I pay for that so why shouldn't he" argument is a bit childish, the fact that lack of insurance can very easily affect others, offloading the cost of the non-insured driver's carelessness on potential injured parties, is what really matters.

    On the other hand, I just can't stand the vigilante attitude, with people purposely nosing around trying to point out other people's faults, often with no evidence other than "I saw him/her do that!".

    Just for the sake of curiosity, how do you know about his tax/NCT/insurance being out? Have you been monitoring them? If so, why? Are you genuinely concerned, or maybe you can't stand your neighbour(s) and finally managed to catch them red-handed into something?

    As much as I genuinely hate nosey vigilante attitudes, if you wish to report them on the basis of civil sense, I have to respect that and say go for it.

    If it's just to get back at them because, maybe, they let their cat roam into your property all day, the dog barks all night, they play loud music etc., then I'd reconsider...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    OP, do the right thing. If the right thing is to make the report then do it. It's all your call :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Corkbah


    charlemont wrote: »
    Snitch

    I'd rather be a snitch than pay higher insurance/taxes.

    if people paid up and stopped huge claims/payouts and false claims insurance and other taxes would drop.

    the people that avoid taxes and stuff like insurance are the very same people who deserve to get caught.

    OP - is it possible that the car owner has been before the courts and has received a ban ? and cant renew because they are currently banned ???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,871 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Corkbah wrote: »

    OP - is it possible that the car owner has been before the courts and has received a ban ? and cant renew because they are currently banned ???

    A ban wouldn't stop a renewal.

    you'd have to disclose the ban for Insurance to be refused at renewal.

    New business may ask for your licence.


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