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Just seen a strange case of blatant racism on the bus home!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    woodoo wrote: »
    Why is that

    Race is a social construction. There is no genetic basis for dividing people into racial groups as if your similiar skin tones mean similiar heritage. Ethnicity is also a social construction but it is based on shared heritage, language, and culture. Racial groups and ethnic groups vary depending on the state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,828 ✭✭✭gosplan


    Also IQ is not fixed and can be raised through stimulus, problem solving and basically a good learning environment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Because if there is a correlation between race and IQ what value does it have and what purpose does it serve?

    Why not try to draw a correlation between foot size and IQ? Why pick race? What purpose does it serve?.

    If its true and a country like japan has a high IQ population why would they want to see mass immigration from countries with low IQ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 466 ✭✭beanie10


    In all fairness is the white South African not in a better position to judge the black South Africans, being from the same continent and all that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    Mind your own business OP. Twas not a conversation you were invited too :)

    South Africans are openly racists. Irish are closet racists.


    The white south Africans I know say that Ireland is great, people just quietly agree with them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Nabber wrote: »
    Mind your own business OP. Twas not a conversation you were invited too :)

    South Africans are openly racists. Irish are closet racists.


    The white south Africans I know say that Ireland is great, people just quietly agree with them.

    No I'm not.

    What's with the enthusiastic generalisations in here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Norwesterner


    Terrible comment to say on a bus.
    Don't they know these things should be muttered under your breath, as you sip a cup of Barry's Tes and peer through a gap in the curtains.

    As someone who worked in building sites around Ireland, can I say to those making comments on South Africans and racism, get over yourselves.
    We aren't much better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    woodoo wrote: »
    If its true and a country like japan has a high IQ population why would they want to see mass immigration from countries with low IQ.

    Immigration is a different issue and is more connected to economics than IQ.

    Why did the Polish with their supposed higher IQ of 99 come to this hell-hole with our paltry 93? They really moved down in the world didn't they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Immigration is a different issue and is more connected to economics than IQ.

    Why did the Polish with their supposed higher IQ of 99 come to this hell-hole with our paltry 93? They really moved down in the world didn't they?

    Would japan want large amounts of people with an average IQ's of 70 coming to their country. BTW i'm not a true believer in all that IQ stuff. The jury is out as far as i'm concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Norwesterner


    3000 white farmers murdered since the end of apartheid.


    And xenophobic black mobs hunt down and lynch immigrant workers from poorer African states.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/19/southafrica1


    Yet everyone talks about the racist whites making a casual remark.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    woodoo wrote: »
    Would japan want large amounts of people with an average IQ's of 70 coming to their country.

    If they had a construction boom or needed workers for manufacturing? Why not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    3000 white farmers murdered since the end of apartheid.


    And xenophobic black mobs hunt down and lynch immigrant workers from poorer African states.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/19/southafrica1

    Is it racism and xenophobia or just good old criminality though? Did you even read the article?
    "We're not talking about xenophobia, we're talking about criminality," said Govindsamy Mariemuthoo, adding that police reservists and officers from other regions had been called in.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/19/southafrica1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Norwesterner


    Is it racism and xenophobia or just good old criminality though? Did you even read the article?
    Yes, I read the entire article, and No, my views are not impeded by a solitary quote from someone who maybe doesn't like to admit xenophobia to foreign press.
    There were riots in 2008 that left 62 dead. Mostly by machete wielding gangs singing ANC anthems.
    These were described as xenophobic attacks on foreign workers by Human Righst Watch and the S.A Govt themselves.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia_in_South_Africa

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2011/jul/05/south-africa-rise-xenophobia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Make It Happen 968


    Terrible comment to say on a bus.
    Don't they know these things should be muttered under your breath, as you sip a cup of Barry's Tes and peer through a gap in the curtains.

    As someone who worked in building sites around Ireland, can I say to those making comments on South Africans and racism, get over yourselves.
    We aren't much better.

    Hahah nice one Barrys Tea, you netted curtain fawk.

    I know Americans who buy and keep guns in the hope a black man will step on their lawn. America is most racist country and african americans are the most racist voters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Hahah nice one Barrys Tea, you netted curtain fawk.

    I know Americans who buy and keep guns in the hope a black man will step on their lawn. America is most racist country and african americans are the most racist voters.

    Are we now? Why's that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Are we now? Why's that?

    Because they climbin' in yo windows, snatchin' yo people up
    so y'all betta hide your kids, hide your wife,
    hide yo kids, hide yo wife,
    cause they rapin' er'ybody out here.
    you don't have to come and confess
    we're lookin for you
    we gonna find you
    we gonna find you
    so you can run and tell that,
    run and tell that
    run and tell that, homeboy
    home, home, homeboy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Because they climbin' in yo windows, snatchin' yo people up
    so y'all betta hide your kids, hide your wife,
    hide yo kids, hide yo wife,
    cause they rapin' er'ybody out here.
    you don't have to come and confess
    we're lookin for you
    we gonna find you
    we gonna find you
    so you can run and tell that,
    run and tell that
    run and tell that, homeboy
    home, home, homeboy

    Like this man you mean http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326690/Masked-gunman-followed-sorority-twins-bar-shooting-pleaded-life-career-criminal-multiple-robbery-convictions.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    95% of blacks in south africa give the 5% a bad name. I lived there for four years itstrue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Make It Happen 968


    Are we now? Why's that?

    Identify yourself killer.

    I'm white... i would not date 99% of black women & i would date 99% of asian women.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Make It Happen 968


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    95% of blacks in south africa give the 5% a bad name. I lived there for four years itstrue

    I heard gang rapes by black men on black women are the norm. I would not like to live in South Africa, i never forgave them for that horrible noise during the world cup games in 2010

    Mod: Banned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Killer Wench


    Identify yourself killer.

    I'm white... i would not date 99% of black women & i would date 99% of asian women.

    I don't think 99% of black women or 99% of Asian women would date you, so it looks like it's a wash for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Make It Happen 968


    woodoo wrote: »

    Sad story, when a masked armed black man demands a few hundred $, be sure id hand it over, its only money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭dj jarvis


    Identify yourself killer.

    I'm white... i would not date 99% of black women & i would date 99% of asian women.

    and the award goes to .............................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Can we all not just agree we naturally inclined to hate somebody for no actual apperant reason,

    I'm an equal opportunities person

    I hate everyone equally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    3000 white farmers murdered since the end of apartheid.


    And xenophobic black mobs hunt down and lynch immigrant workers from poorer African states.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/may/19/southafrica1


    Yet everyone talks about the racist whites making a casual remark.


    My props to you for pointing this out. It's a great pity AH is most times a one way street on this issue, most could care less :o And they profess 'tolerance', what phonies! (But then again we figured these types out ages ago.. (aka the Helen Lovejoy archetype) )


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    Hi, I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced a similar encounter with open racism in front of everyone.

    On the bus coming home yesterday evening, I was waiting to get off and I was queuing behind a couple that spoke with Southern African accents, one of them chats to the driver about there travel around Europe.

    Then drops this bombshell "Yeah I like Ireland, not too many black people eh?"
    I was really shocked that he said it, so to was the driver who spoke how great black people like Phil Lynott were in reply to him. Then the backpacker said "well I don't like em".

    It happened so quickly in a bus full of people, he wasn't joking, he was serious.
    Most South Africans are black so i assume these people were black?

    And Phil Lynott was not black.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    Itwasntme. wrote: »
    I am shocked by some of the racist vitriol being spewed on here. In fact, I am stumped for a response. Oh well, that's probably because I am not as intelligent as white people :) according to the resident Darwinists. I better go steal something for dinner. Values, integrity, honor, principles, basic decency? Ain't nobody got time for that!! :D Don't you know? That's only for the evolved white people.

    I'm sorry you have to read the bollocks posted on this thread, Itwasntme. Your response was legendary though. Fair play! I wouldn't have kept so cool. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Jesus Christ!!

    The irony of some of you going on about IQ levels!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin




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