Just seen a strange case of blatant racism on the bus home!

C.ENGSTUDENT

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced a similar encounter with open racism in front of everyone.

On the bus coming home yesterday evening, I was waiting to get off and I was queuing behind a couple that spoke with Southern African accents, one of them chats to the driver about there travel around Europe.

Then drops this bombshell "Yeah I like Ireland, not too many black people eh?"
I was really shocked that he said it, so to was the driver who spoke how great black people like Phil Lynott were in reply to him. Then the backpacker said "well I don't like em".

It happened so quickly in a bus full of people, he wasn't joking, he was serious.

Skid X

I'm not saying every white South African is racist, but the few I have met were.

Esoteric_

I'd have asked them have they met every black person in the world, and if not, how can they judge all black people as one.

Doom

Offer them a bottle of piss. Tell them its a local drink made by arian white only Irish people.

Meritocracy Wins

Racist South Africans, well I never. Used to work with a good few, they were all racist just some hid it better than most. Ireland is also full of Irish racists, some hide it better than others.

mfceiling

They are south african OP.

What did you expext from them?

DrumSteve

Ah afrikaaners aint the worst, they just lack a filter between their brain and mouth.

johnayo

DrumSteve wrote: »

Ah afrikaaners aint the worst, they just lack a filter between their brain and mouth.

In fairness, that's a fairly racist comment.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Oh good, a racism thread...

FearDark

In my experience living and working with South Africans they are the most racist bunch I have ever come across.

DrumSteve

johnayo wrote: »

In fairness, that's a fairly racist comment.

Racist? How?

I prefer the term ethnic criticism bill.

arybvtcw0eolkf

He'd have had a nervous breakdown on the Ongar bus!.

yizorselves

But the South African was dead right!

There isnt as many black people as compared to other races But there are plenty, you just gotta look real close at passing cars

C.ENGSTUDENT

mfceiling wrote: »

They are south african OP.

What did you expext from them?

I expected them to be normal

The Backwards Man

I like Ireland too. There's not that many white South Africans here.

jonsnow

fair play to that bus driver for not just shrugging it off

Syllabus

johnayo wrote: »

In fairness, that's a fairly racist comment.

Its their opinion

If they said they didnt like corkoians(sp) would you say the same? Or they said i dont like red cars

Its just someones opinion






Imo

MrJoeSoap

Syllabus wrote: »

Its their opinion

If they said they didnt like corkoians(sp) would you say the same? Or they said i dont like red cars

Its just someones opinion






Imo

If your opinion is to criticise/judge an entire race or ethnicity on the basis of the few that you've met, then you're a racist surely?

You can't just throw "IMO" on the end of something to make it ok.

Syllabus

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

If you're opinion is to criticise/judge an entire race or ethnicity on the basis of the few that you've met, then you're a racist surely?

You can't just throw "IMO" on the end of something to make it ok.

I never said he wasnt rascist


And yes i can

DrumSteve

Syllabus wrote: »

I never said he wasnt rascist


And yes i can

Eh, Im just gonna jump in here, to confirm im not a racist.

yermandan

mfceiling wrote: »

They are south african OP.

What did you expext from them?

Hillarious irony

The Queen of England

Eim frum Sud Afrika und I like it hear cuz there ain't too many blicks abuat.

ardmacha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZjwCmJrnlY

Seaneh

One of the nicest people I know is a white girl who was born and raised in South Africa, her parents are both Irish though.

Even she says the most racist people she knows are Afrikaners.

jugger0

If you were from SA you'd probably be a bit racist too.

Chuck Stone

DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY.

Duckworth_Luas

Chuck Stone wrote: »

DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY.

But you're blik!

LiamoSail

While I don't condone racism, its very easy for us here in ireland to criticise such a mentality without having an appreciation for how things are at the moment over in South Africa, and indeed the likes of Zimbabwe. Relative to South Africa, we have zero experience of racism or racial divides in this country, so we can't relate

Again, I'm not condoning the mentality, however people need to understand that South Africa is a dangerous place, and its very easy to see how these attitudes are nurtured among the middle class, in otherwise decent, rational people

The Backwards Man

Chuck Stone wrote: »

DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY.

I'd give it to Patsy Kensit, not sure about the rest.

Czarcasm

Ah Jesus, the bus driver shouldn't even have entertained them tbh. They were hardly going to change life-long held views on the whim of a 30 second exchange of words with a Dublin bus driver!

Sure I was at a party last week the only white guy among a crowd of about 100 black people (my friend is black and it was her son's communion, but tbf what I consider a "small get together of family and friends" and what she considers a small get together of family and friends, are vastly different concepts! ), but a couple of the lads were gathered around the barbecue and the chap was turning the lamb chunks with his fingers, then dipping his fingers in water to cool them.

I goes to him "Jesus man have you no tongs?"

I nearly pissed myself laughing when he replied "Tongs are for white people!"

Racist bastard! :pac:

bb1234567

C.ENGSTUDENT wrote: »

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced a similar encounter with open racism in front of everyone.

On the bus coming home yesterday evening, I was waiting to get off and I was queuing behind a couple that spoke with Southern African accents, one of them chats to the driver about there travel around Europe.

Then drops this bombshell "Yeah I like Ireland, not too many black people eh?"
I was really shocked that he said it, so to was the driver who spoke how great black people like Phil Lynott were in reply to him. Then the backpacker said "well I don't like em".

It happened so quickly in a bus full of people, he wasn't joking, he was serious.

I heard something similar when I was on the bus a a few weeks ago, a black guy talking about how much he hated arabs and how theyre pure evil or something lol

gallag

Has it occurred to people that their opinion is shaped on experience? You dont stop at a red light in S.A unless nesacary and bars on house windows is common due to the prolific crime levels and unfortunately these crimes have a disproportionate representation from the black community. Remember these people have been conditioned from a young age to be wary of black people so I dont think it is a standard hate racism, more a result of experience. If the same people grew up in an afulant area in America surround by a large black community comprising of doctors, bankers etc they could have a different outlook, afterall there has to be a reason so many white s Africans dislike blacks?

its the same as most irish people not liking gypsies, it does not make them bad people for holding an opinion shaped by experience.

bb1234567

I know one white south african man and hes the best guy youll ever meet. I also know a white zimbabwean whose one of the nicest guys ive ever met, idk if he counts tho. He has the same accent as the south african people anyways:pac: SO theyre not all bad atleast!

The Backwards Man

LiamoSail wrote: »

While I don't condone racism, its very easy for us here in ireland to criticise such a mentality without having an appreciation for how things are at the moment over in South Africa, and indeed the likes of Zimbabwe. Relative to South Africa, we have zero experience of racism or racial divides in this country, so we can't relate

Again, I'm not condoning the mentality, however people need to understand that South Africa is a dangerous place, and its very easy to see how these attitudes are nurtured among the middle class, in otherwise decent, rational people

OK, you could probably argue that saying you don't like people from Soweto, for example, isn't racist, but I can't see how straight out saying you don't like a particular race can be anything else other than racist.

Syllabus

DrumSteve wrote: »

Eh, Im just gonna jump in here, to confirm im not a racist.

I was talking about the SA

DrumSteve

Syllabus wrote: »

I was talking about the SA

Ah okay.

captainzero

C.ENGSTUDENT wrote: »

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced a similar encounter with open racism in front of everyone.

On the bus coming home yesterday evening, I was waiting to get off and I was queuing behind a couple that spoke with Southern African accents, one of them chats to the driver about there travel around Europe.

Then drops this bombshell "Yeah I like Ireland, not too many black people eh?"
I was really shocked that he said it, so to was the driver who spoke how great black people like Phil Lynott were in reply to him. Then the backpacker said "well I don't like em".

It happened so quickly in a bus full of people, he wasn't joking, he was serious.

everybody should have a headcam like the demon cyclist

Herrick

mfceiling wrote: »

They are south african OP.

What did you expext from them?

DrumSteve wrote: »

Ah afrikaaners aint the worst, they just lack a filter between their brain and mouth.

FearDark wrote: »

In my experience living and working with South Africans they are the most racist bunch I have ever come across.

The Backwards Man wrote: »

I like Ireland too. There's not that many white South Africans here.

Gotta love this place. There's nothing wrong with generalizing and making digs at Afrikaner's.

But yet if you were to say anything remotely similar about Nigerians, etc the same crowd are up in arms and screaming racist, bigot, etc

Wonder if we'll see any Mod action on these comments.

The Backwards Man

Gotta love this place. There's nothing wrong with generalizing and making digs at Afrikaner's.

But yet if you were to say anything remotely similar about Nigerians, etc the same crowd are up in arms and screaming racist.

Wonder if we'll see any Mod action on these comments.

South African and Nigerian aren't races though, they are nationalities.

Herrick

The Backwards Man wrote: »

South African and Nigerian aren't races though, they are nationalities.

Yes, unfortunately it doesn't stop plenty here using the term when it suits them.

bnt

MrJoeSoap wrote: »

If your opinion is to criticise/judge an entire race or ethnicity on the basis of the few that you've met, then you're a racist surely?

Well, white South Africans have far more first-hand experience with actual Africans than most Irish people ever will have. For every Nelson Mandela, there's at least one Winnie Mandela). Which doesn't justify racism, but racism doesn't just pop up out of nowhere for no reason.

LiamoSail

The Backwards Man wrote: »

OK, you could probably argue that saying you don't like people from Soweto, for example, isn't racist, but I can't see how straight out saying you don't like a particular race can be anything else other than racist.

I never said otherwise.

My point was simply that people need to understand the root causes of such attitudes, rather then simply just regurgitating the "racism is evil" mantra, and assuming everyone with an attitude as described by the op in some sort of devil worshipping nazi.

The only was to change these sort of attitudes is to first address the socioeconomic issues in South Africa. Otherwise, you're just painting over rust

moneymad

C.ENGSTUDENT wrote: »

Hi, I was just wondering if anyone else has experienced a similar encounter with open racism in front of everyone.

On the bus coming home yesterday evening, I was waiting to get off and I was queuing behind a couple that spoke with Southern African accents, one of them chats to the driver about there travel around Europe.

Then drops this bombshell "Yeah I like Ireland, not too many black people eh?"
I was really shocked that he said it, so to was the driver who spoke how great black people like Phil Lynott were in reply to him. Then the backpacker said "well I don't like em".

It happened so quickly in a bus full of people, he wasn't joking, he was serious.

Are you that ignorant of south African history and current affairs?
http://sunettebridges.co.za/a-year-from-hell-the-truth-about-south-africa/

*25 July 2012: Walkerville, Gauteng:The entire Viana-family was massacred on their smallholding. 12-Year-old Amano was tortured and drowned in boiling water. His mother Geraldine (43) was gang raped and killed and his father, Tony (53) was shot

Sauve

bnt wrote: »

racism doesn't just pop up out of nowhere for no reason.

No it doesn't, you're right. It pops up out of the absurd belief that your race is superior to another. The reason is irrelevant because believing that 'black south africans are all criminals' is as ignorant a statement as 'all Irish people are alcoholics', or 'all dogs I see want to bite me', it's ridiculous.

woodoo

Meritocracy Wins wrote: »

Racist South Africans, well I never. Used to work with a good few, they were all racist just some hid it better than most. Ireland is also full of Irish racists, some hide it better than others.

They live in a country that is 90% black maybe they know something we don't. Not that i'm agreeing with what he said though. Any black people i have met have been nice people.

Syllabus

moneymad wrote: »

*25 July 2012: Walkerville, Gauteng:The entire Viana-family was massacred on their smallholding. 12-Year-old Amano was tortured and drowned in boiling water. His mother Geraldine (43) was gang raped and killed and his father, Tony (53) was shot

Just 1 example of thousands

In general (and i admit not every single one) black africans are sub human

Mod: banned

Mr. CooL ICE

Not exactly related, but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb7ghkEi32w

Chuck Stone

gallag wrote: »

Has it occurred to people that their opinion is shaped on experience? You dont stop at a red light in S.A unless nesacary and bars on house windows is common due to the prolific crime levels and unfortunately these crimes have a disproportionate representation from the black community. Remember these people have been conditioned from a young age to be wary of black people so I dont think it is a standard hate racism, more a result of experience. If the same people grew up in an afulant area in America surround by a large black community comprising of doctors, bankers etc they could have a different outlook, afterall there has to be a reason so many white s Africans dislike blacks?

its the same as most irish people not liking gypsies, it does not make them bad people for holding an opinion shaped by experience.

Leave Black people alone FFS.
trollface

woodoo

Herrick wrote: »

Gotta love this place. There's nothing wrong with generalizing and making digs at Afrikaner's.

But yet if you were to say anything remotely similar about Nigerians, etc the same crowd are up in arms and screaming racist, bigot, etc

Wonder if we'll see any Mod action on these comments.

Yes vomit inducing hypocrisy by the 'right on' liberals.

padd b1975

The Queen of England wrote: »

Eim frum Sud Afrika und I like it hear cuz there ain't too many blicks abuat.

Any chance you could ask your husband to join this debate??

charlemont

LiamoSail wrote: »

While I don't condone racism, its very easy for us here in ireland to criticise such a mentality without having an appreciation for how things are at the moment over in South Africa, and indeed the likes of Zimbabwe. Relative to South Africa, we have zero experience of racism or racial divides in this country, so we can't relate

Again, I'm not condoning the mentality, however people need to understand that South Africa is a dangerous place, and its very easy to see how these attitudes are nurtured among the middle class, in otherwise decent, rational people

So where is this Ulster that people speak of ? Or has Ireland's history just been wiped out or eliminated from your brain..


Best way to píss off white Afrikaners is to call them African, Its what I do at work and the bloke hates it.