Today is friday topic: Who has right of way?

AstraMonti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiZaIKqu7pM

I found this plenty funny, the poor woman lost the plot completely lol.

Edit: Warning language might be a bit offensive for an office.

seamus

I found this plenty funny, the poor woman lost the plot completely lol.

She's the kind of scumbag that all women should hate; "I'M A WOMAN ON MY OWN! HELP! YOU'RE THREATENING ME!"

Of course, I do think the guy was being unnecessarily obtuse about it. I would just give a shake of the head, maybe an incredulous raise of the hand and then go around her on the right.
Life is too short to waste your time having arguments with people too stupid to understand what they're doing wrong.

RobFowl

The cyclist was being a dick....

Zyzz

RobFowl wrote: »

The cyclist was being a dick....

But he wasn't in the wrong? lol

Captain Havoc

I'm glad the two met each other.

Diarmuid

RobFowl wrote: »

The cyclist was being a dick....

It's a long way down the list of observations you could make about that video.

Paul Kiernan

I love Friday's.

Chips Lovell

I'm trying to decide which of them was more obnoxious...

Harrybelafonte

Diarmuid wrote: »

It's a long way down the list of observations you could make about that video.

Straight away you can see the guys performing for the camera on the helmet. I figure I'll put one in the car and follow every cyclist who does something wrong and just roar abuse at them. It'll feel so good when I see it on youtube validating my anger issues.

CramCycle

seamus wrote: »

She's the kind of scumbag that all women should hate; "I'M A WOMAN ON MY OWN! HELP! YOU'RE THREATENING ME!"

He was right, she was an a**hole

Of course, I do think the guy was being unnecessarily obtuse about it. I would just give a shake of the head, maybe an incredulous raise of the hand and then go around her on the right.
Life is too short to waste your time having arguments with people too stupid to understand what they're doing wrong.

+1 and this from me an obtuse a**hat at the best of times.

Darkglasses

He's a good guy, not your typical fussy, pedantic helmet cammer. Possibly just got confronted with that idiot at a bad moment.

Doctor Bob

AstraMonti wrote: »

I found this plenty funny, the poor woman lost the plot completely lol.

At least she was wearing hi-viz. I'm sure the RSA would approve!

galwaycyclist

I am not always a fan of helmet cams but I have been in this situation myself.

Beasty

We already have a Friday thread, and this video has already been discussed in the Camper Van

Edit

I'm going to re-open this one and move the Camper Van posts in as it seems to have got some traction over there

ted1

CramCycle wrote: »

He was right, she was an a**hole


+1 and this from me an obtuse a**hat at the best of times.

Nonsense the dude was being a dick. Pure performance for the camera, bet you he is a left wing socialists just out to cause trouble.

Wishbone Ash

seamus wrote: »

"I'M A WOMAN ON MY OWN! HELP! YOU'RE THREATENING ME!"

Sounds like she said "You're stressing me" - the cyclist used the words "threatening" (possibly mis-hearing her).

Cyclist was totally over the top. The situation wasn't dangerous and he could have simply went around as if a parked vehicle and given the normal slow head shake. He must come across as just another angry cyclist to the other motorists. I wouldn't like to see how he handles a real situation.

.....and why do such cyclists go on about reporting it to the Gardai/police as if that's a threat. Just do it if you want to - there's no need to inform the motorist.

Alanstrainor

RobFowl wrote: »

The cyclist was being a dick....

Zyzz wrote: »

But he wasn't in the wrong? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQl5aYhkF3E

petethedrummer

ted1 wrote: »

bet you he is a left wing socialists just out to cause trouble.

LOL! Genius.

buffalo

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

The situation wasn't dangerous and he could have simply went around as if a parked vehicle and given the normal slow head shake.

She could've given him a couple of feet to go by. If he'd gone around to the right, he has to make his way through oncoming traffic to get back to the right (left) side of the road.

While I would've left her to her raving far quicker, I'm not sure this guy qualifies as a 'dick'. I think he's either stubborn or possibly stunned.

CramCycle

ted1 wrote: »

Nonsense the dude was being a dick. Pure performance for the camera, bet you he is a left wing socialists just out to cause trouble.

Looked at the video again, he was. She was over far to far but all he had to do was pull in slightly and force her to drive around him.
I would have thrown in a "nice driving a**hole" and carried on. There is no argument or higher ground to be gained there.
It is actually a really uncomfortable video as I find myself with no bias towards either party, it is like a movie with two bad guys playing SNAP, it's not interesting and you don't care.

Also the older i get the more right wing I find myself, is that a symptom of age?

.....and why do such cyclists go on about reporting it to the Gardai/police as if that's a threat. Just do it if you want to - there's no need to inform the motorist.

Damn straight, once someone starts this, its time to ignore them, if a person wants to call the Gardai, they should call them or call into them. Stopping to tell someone your doing it is pointless and is like the guy in the playground who cries "agree with me or I will get my Mamai/Teacher", it didn't work then, it won't work now IMO

Surveyor11

A match made in heaven.

smacl

Beasty wrote: »

I'm going to re-open this one and move the Camper Van posts in as it seems to have got some traction over there

Camper van losing traction? Flashbacks to the Sally gap in the snow earlier this year

Surveyor11

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/onesided-comments-simply-gloss-over-the-faults-of-drivers-29271106.html

Some interesting reading in the comments section.....

Brian?

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

I'm trying to decide which of them was more obnoxious...

The driver for screaming she was being threatened.

Your man on the bike was no angel though.

Wishbone Ash

As an aside, it strange that parking is permitted at the theatre end of that street as it already very narrow and probably would be better converted a one way.

on_the_nickel

Equally concerning to the ranting of the cyclist is the full gloves, yesterday! That dude needs to HTFU.

RoboRat

Who has right of way?

Cyclist does.

Who was right... they're both ignorant twats. I cant decide who is worse but I am veering towards her as she was wrong and rather than just move over a bit started having a hissy fit and the 'you're threatening me, I am a woman' crap was way out of order.

He was no better and should have just moved on rather than making an issue of it but he was actually in the right.

They should both look at this video and feel disgusted at their behaviour.

Ole Rodrigo

If he has a commuter-cam, we can assume he is a regular cyclist. That being the case he should know from experience not to escalate any situation unless it is necessary. At the very least, its just not practical in urban cycling to throw a wobbler at every minor infraction.

The driver was wrong, but its a mistake easily made - a narrow street with the driver misjudging the speed of an approaching cyclist and thinking they can get through first. Some folks in right turning cars have a habit of doing the same. There is no problem when you expect this to happen. The cyclist should have realised the driver had likely misjudged the narrow gap and acted accordingly by riding around the car. A disdainful glance as he passed and a dismissive wave would have been more than enough.

Antagonising a driver like that is the height of ignorance and bad manners, IMO.

CardinalJ

In a fit of study procrastination I looked at a few of his other videos. He chews the head off people in cars for indicating to turn across him, but who stop and stay in their lane. He asked two guys to move their car when its parked in a cycle path. All a show for his youtube channel. One of those militant cyclists.

That said, the woman is a numpty as well and starts the whole thing by refusing to pull over to the correct side of the road. Its a random match made in tightly strung heaven.

The only guy I enjoy is the guy in the Passat who says "fair play to you, man" as its brightened up his day.

DrChristianTroy

ror_74 wrote: »

The driver was wrong, but its a mistake easily made - a narrow street with the driver misjudging the speed of an approaching cyclist and thinking they can get through first. Some folks in right turning cars have a habit of doing the same.

Antagonising a driver like that is the height of ignorance and bad manners, IMO.

But if she just made a honest mistake why not pull over 3 feet and let him pass. To be fair I dont think he did too much to antagonise her prior to approaching her window. How was he to know that she has serious issues....all she was short of doing was shouting rape!

buffalo wrote: »

If he'd gone around to the right, he has to make his way through oncoming traffic to get back to the right (left) side of the road.

Completely agree here, he def shouldnt have had to....

Darkglasses wrote: »

He's a good guy, not your typical fussy, pedantic helmet cammer. Possibly just got confronted with that idiot at a bad moment.

From looking at some of his other videos I have to say he seems very fussy and pedantic!!

07Lapierre

Cyclists like that give the rest of us a bad name!...Lifes too short for these type of confrontations.

shaka

He is clearly in the right ...she moved from her left to her right at about 6 seconds and there is clearly no room for him to go around . Only place he could go is onto wrong side of road in to possible oncoming traffic, clearly no space on his left.think he was prob right to stop.

His language is not on , thats just acting the knob. throwing FS around the place doesn't help but that's not to say I wouldn't let one or two out of me..

Then she pulls out the low blow," I'm a woman on my own " , Hate that bs.
thats main reason this is gone viral.
Had to laugh at passat driver:)

Don't commute and glad I don't watching that,

chakattack

He needs to chill out....

He met his match with her though...isolated and defenceless

Kav0777

At least she was wearing hi-viz....

ford2600

She's highly strung and he, as per his other videos, is on a crusade to change motorist behaviour.

Life is too short for that nonsense. Both could easily have diffused a a non event really

Korvanica

She was being retarded, he overreacted.

Anyone going on watching all his other videos and calling him out on them needs to cop themselves on and discuss what the op posted.

RobertFoster

Kav0777 wrote: »

At least she was wearing hi-viz....

I believe you have to if you're a woman on your own.

Harrybelafonte

ted1 wrote: »

Nonsense the dude was being a dick. Pure performance for the camera, bet you he is a left wing socialists just out to cause trouble.

Nah, nah, he's clearly a right-wing socialist, they're the worst.

galwaycyclist

ror_74 wrote: »

The driver was wrong, but its a mistake easily made - a narrow street with the driver misjudging the speed of an approaching cyclist and thinking they can get through first. Some folks in right turning cars have a habit of doing the same. There is no problem when you expect this to happen. The cyclist should have realised the driver had likely misjudged the narrow gap and acted accordingly by riding around the car. A disdainful glance as he passed and a dismissive wave would have been more than enough.

OK and leaving aside the more confrontational nature of this cyclist.

What would you say if the cyclist was a child going to school? What if it was a parent with a child trailer or a child in a child seat?

What if it was Granny Murphy coming back from the shops on her Triumph 20 with her messages in the basket?

Would you expect all these people to go around on the wrong side of the road?

Because a driver wouldn't drive on the left?

vicwatson

Captain Havoc wrote: »

I'm glad the two met each other.

I think they should marry - imagine the rows :eek:

Ole Rodrigo

DrChristianTroy wrote: »

But if she just made a honest mistake why not pull over 3 feet and let him pass. To be fair I dont think he did too much to antagonise her prior to approaching her window. How was he to know that she has serious issues....all she was short of doing was shouting rape!

It looks like she didn't judge the gap properly, and with the cyclist stationary in the middle of the road waving and cursing she wasn't sure what to do. Clearly not the right approach but she wasn't being reckless either and wasn't deserving of some stranger with a video camera chastising her.

Maybe its just me, I see it as a lack of common courtesy. Those crusading commuters make life harder for the rest of us, creating problems where there aren't any.

vicwatson

The woman driver was in the wrong, fact. She should have apologised and got over it.

The cyclist was overly obnoxious.

A pair of them in it.

vicwatson

ror_74 wrote: »

It looks like she didn't judge the gap properly, and with the cyclist stationary in the middle of the road waving and cursing she wasn't sure what to do. Clearly not the right approach but she wasn't being reckless either and wasn't deserving of some stranger with a video camera chastising her.

Maybe its just me, I see it as a lack of common courtesy. Those crusading commuters make life harder for the rest of us, creating problems where there aren't any.

Maybe she should learn the rules of the road?

beeno67

Zyzz wrote: »

But he wasn't in the wrong? lol

Well he did cycle on the footpath or do those laws not count?Maybe we should report him to the guards.

listermint

07Lapierre wrote: »

Cyclists like that give the rest of us a bad name!...Lifes too short for these type of confrontations.

Nah, some drivers need educating and shes one of them. Id imagine its not her first journey around the block thinking she is right.

Fair play for him for tackling her on it.


Cyclists that cycle up on the kerb or around the other side of her give cyclists a bad name. Road rules are there to be followed.

She basically treated him as if he wasnt a legitimate road user. So based on that you are completely and utterly wrong.

vicwatson

beeno67 wrote: »

Well he did cycle on the footpath or do those laws not count?Maybe we should report him to the guards.

Only because the car was blocking his way, had he went around the right of her he'd have been driving up the street the wrong way.

Ole Rodrigo

galwaycyclist wrote: »

OK and leaving aside the more confrontational nature of this cyclist.

What would you say if the cyclist was a child going to school? What if it was a parent with a child trailer or a child in a child seat?

What if it was Granny Murphy coming back from the shops on her Triumph 20 with her messages in the basket?

Would expect all these people to go around on the wrong side of the road?

Because a driver wouldn't drive on the left?

With respect, I don't think those you mention would have appeared as intimidating, and I suspect thats what happened here. She made a a mistake, didn't know what to do, and then possibly got a bit scared. It no excuse, but poor judgement of the cyclist to have a go at her.

Maybe she should learn the rules of the road?

The broader point here, I think, is what the right thing to do is when people break the rules, which happens all the time in city traffic. Not being antagonistic and not escalating a situation is almost always the best option.

vicwatson

The broader point here, I think, is what the right thing to do is when people break the rules, which happens all the time in city traffic. Not being antagonistic and not escalating a situation is almost always the best option.

Which is exactly what she did by shouting and screeching about here being threatened and alone.

The right thing to do was to put your hands up, apologise and move on

beeno67

vicwatson wrote: »

Only because the car was blocking his way, had he went around the right of her he'd have been driving up the street the wrong way.

He should have remaied off the bike and either waited for her to pass or else push the bike on the footpath. He was still breaking the law cycling on pavement. Also he took the left turn at high speed (for a bike) without being able to see around the corner. I am being pedantic but he is the one showing a video where he complains about a driver not obeying the rules of the road.

derealbadger

they knew what they were talking about

United States » Tennessee » Memphis
Illegal for a woman to drive a car unless there is a man either running or walking in front of it waving a red flag to warn approaching motorists and pedestrians.

galwaycyclist

ror_74 wrote: »

With respect, I don't think those you mention would have appeared as intimidating, and I suspect thats what happened here. She made a a mistake, didn't know what to do, and then possibly got a bit scared. It no excuse, but poor judgement of the cyclist to have a go at her.

Ok I was going to agree with you. But I went back and looked at the video again. The cyclist came fully to a stop first and she continued to roll her vehicle towards him.

That is not the behaviour of someone who is intimidated. That is the behaviour of someone who is trying to intimidate.