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Hurling refs McAllister and Wadding axed from inter-county panel
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Do you honestly believe that Walsh meant to do that? Seriously now?Deleted User wrote: »Thats my point exactly, he is a useless incompetent referee. I wont defend the Tipp players last year but to be quite honest that seems to be the only case you can build, meanwhile your own lads, the masters of the dark arts are blissfully ignored as you point fingers at all in sundry.
"masters of the dark arts"...I suppose with the amount of hidings ye lads have taken off them over the years its only natural to assume some type of wizardy is at work.
Your bogeyman Tommy didn't do much retaliation when the bould Benny nearly took the head off him,did he? No he didn't.Straight back on his feet ready to hurl again and made no bones about it either.Deleted User wrote: »The many retaliations we've seen from certain players over the years though can be surely called into question.
Anyway,may the best team win on Sunday and hopefully no one will be crippled.0 -
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silverbirch66 wrote: »Do you honestly believe that Walsh meant to do that? Seriously now? "masters of the dark arts"...I suppose with the amount of hidings ye lads have taken off them over the years its only natural to assume some type of wizardy is at work.
Oh here we go :rolleyes:
There is no disputing that Kilkenny have been a phenomenal team over the years even on the rare occasion they were defeated but then there is this blindness that their supporters have toward their moments of madness and yet this 20/20 vision they have toward others...never ceases to amaze me.0 -
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I tried that but I gave up on that when I saw some of these posts by the two jokers below!Cheers! Very constructive contribution, really gets to the nub of the issue.silverbirch66 wrote: »Do you honestly believe that Walsh meant to do that? Seriously now? "masters of the dark arts"...I suppose with the amount of hidings ye lads have taken off them over the years its only natural to assume some type of wizardy is at work.silverbirch66 wrote: »Are you going to answer Martin567 question or are you going to post another beauty of a post like the above?:D There is so much wrong with it,I don't even know where to begin and Im not going to even try.:Dis
Absolutely. At last justice is done - whatever it may mean to Michael Rice. Wadding continued to cock up this year when he gave Tommy Walsh a second yellow in the wrong in the KK v Tipp League game.
The famous CCCC ought to be ashamed of themselves too. Why the hell did they not call in these two refs after their deplorable displays? Getting rid of them now is an admission of their mistake, or rather negligence.
Seriously, the above lad actually gave out about Fergal Moore not getting a yellow card when there was serious concerns for his well being last weekend!
Already gave my view on Pauric Maher's incidents.
I don't really care much for the Tipp v Kilkenny back on forth that seems to be going on, but there's a woeful amount of moaning going on from Kilkenny people I notice recently. Fair enough when there's an issue there like Maher's swing on TJ Reid, and possibly Reid's injury in the all-ireland final though I must admit I haven't seen that because I missed the replay.
But there's a lot of talk here that is pure and utter tripe, and to be honest comments like 'butchery' coming from the otherside seem to be born out of sheer frustration with attempting reason.
I'd accept that nobody should call Kilkenny a dirty team (and to be honest, I haven't really seen it being bandied about the place that much if I'm honest) but you cannot try and claim they've not pulled strokes. Just because a strike doesn't result in injury doesn't mean it should be treated any differently if there was the potential for injury there and there was in some of the incidents highlighted in this thread. Take a few examples, accidents actually can produce worse injuries than acts of malevolance. Shane Duffy (Irish defender) in training with the Irish team punctured a lung colliding with a defender, last week the consensus seems to be that if there was a foul commited it was by Fergal Moore and yet he ended up in hospital. While Maher's challenge was reckless, I still don't feel the one on Rice was a red card personally, though I think he should have had a yellow for being careless.
The ball was there though. Hurling is an odd sport in that sense. If the ball was in the air and Maher broke Rice's hand well Rice would be held accountable for not protecting his hand.
Finally, I don't think Kilkenny should be singled out as a dirty team because we've seen a player from every county pull a stroke at some stage. There is this holier than thou mindset that seems prevalent over the past few months though, and I have to say personally it's what's irritating me here.0 -
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The frustration Kilkenny people feel is with the way certain things have been portrayed in sections of the media in recent years. A few pundits seem to believe that Kilkenny get away with murder and would not be so successful if the rules were applied. They warned of serious injuries if no action was taken but were completely silent after the injuries suffered last year. Kilkenny people have had to highlight these incidents as no-one else appears to be interested.
The Padraic Maher incident is actually very similar to the recent Paul O'Connell incident in rugby. Probably not malicious but reckless in the extreme. Anyone who goes in swinging with that sort of force and at that height is more likely than not to cause injury. He showed complete disregard for his opponent. TJ Reid was struck with the side of the hurl on the kneecap with the ball several yards away. That incident was definitely malicious although he was still unlucky that such a serious injury resulted.
No genuine Kilkenny person would attempt to suggest that Kilkenny are angels or that they don't foul. Of course they do. Nevertheless, it is a fact that they have been on the receiving end of some of the worst foul play in the last five years. Apart from the above two incidents, there was the Benny Dunne assault and Tom Kenny on Cha Fitzpatrick in 2008. I think we are entitled to wonder why these incidents get forgotten when people start talking about who are the instigators of foul play.
A couple of the Tipperary contributors to this thread have used terms such as butchery and dark arts to refer to Kilkenny. Perhaps they have shown themselves to be decent contributors to other discussions but that's no reason to excuse them of the worst hyperbole in this particular thread. If their views are balanced as regards Kilkenny, it is only because they have an equal chip on both shoulders.
It was clear to everyone in the centre of the Cusack Stand last August that the only thing on Lar Corbett's mind from the very start was to goad Tommy Walsh into getting himself sent off. Does this tactic fall under the definition of dark arts?
My understanding of what people mean by Kilkenny 'getting away with it' is general fouls not malicious ones. You are more than welcome to find links that contradict me on that because I don't speak for myself. But personally I always feel that they don't get half enough frees given against them. What I feel happens there is the Kilkenny people are used to them playing a certain way and when a ref penalizes them for these incidents there is uproar in the stands. You couldn't blame the players for it, you'd have to blame the referees but ya see at the end of the day the referee is caught in a tricky situation because both sets of fans can't be happy with his performance.
I say this with full prior acknowledgement that I'm as biased as anyone and only saw the game once, but I felt James McGrath missed several fouls on our players in the league game. Yet, there was a foul (I think it's possible that there were two fouls in quick succession) down in the stand corner in the second half where I think Aylward/Fennelly were fouled and then we got a free out of something and there was a huge shout followed by a chorus of boos. That's what I mean. Somebody mentioned wisely (rebel girl 15 I think) that fouls are a bit loosely defined and often carry different meanings in some peopless minds to others. If every supposed foul was blown in a game youd have a game of frees and nobody wants that. At the same time, it makes it hard to judge how much a foul is worthy of a free. Anyway rambling a bit here.
The other thing I'd like to add is while I'd condemn incidents like Maher's swing on Reid, Benny Dunne's pull and what Tom Kenny did, the problem there is with the structure of suspensions in the GAA. People generally don't want to reflect on these things (in the case of Benny Dunne I have to say he actually was berated for it in fairness) at that stage of the year. The whole certain length of time suspension is ridiculous because there's no inter county games for 6 months once the championship ends. That's what needs to change I feel, but maybe a discussion for a different thread?Why cant the thread be kept on topic these refs have being dropped and the thread results in wingeing about injuries that happened last year we should be looking forward to the year ahead and the fact the games wont be ruined by incompetent refs.
Haha not likely now, some things will never change. And even if they do, the losing team will always need someone to blame
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