PGA Tour Thread

AGC

Kisner hacking it around

FixdePitchmark

AGC wrote: »

He is 16/1, playing as good as anyone in world at minute and has won at Augusta twice. I wouldn’t back against him.

Bubba is probably one of the hardest golfers out there to call.

He is so emotional - he isn't a normal sort of character.

I also wouldn't use a matchplay event as a good yardstick for a stroke play event.

He has won an event this year - but I wouldn't say he is playing as good as anyone.
His stats this season are poor and his putting stats are terrible.

Yes course form at Augusta is important. Again he is a hard man to call.

There are 10 to 20 players playing way better golf at present.

FixdePitchmark

Losing - but no fore into about a 6 deep crowd.

2 arseholes in final.

FixdePitchmark

same again

By the way not sure with big crowds "fore" would make difference - what are you going to do run or move into another person.

It is more manners

LuckyGent88

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Bubba is probably one of the hardest golfers out there to call.

He is so emotional - he isn't a normal sort of character.

I also wouldn't use a matchplay event as a good yardstick for a stroke play event.

He has won an event this year - but I wouldn't say he is playing as good as anyone.
His stats this season are poor and his putting stats are terrible.

Yes course form at Augusta is important. Again he is a hard man to call.

There are 10 to 20 players playing way better golf at present.

Where are there 10 to 20 players playing better than Bubba?? He won at Riveria which is considered one of best courses on tour, 9th in Mexico and about to win here where he is ripping the driver and his putting is looking solid again.

Add to the fact that he has won twice around Augusta and that he can shape the ball easily both ways, he will certainly be one of the main favorites.

First Up

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

same again

By the way not sure with big crowds "fore" would make difference - what are you going to do run or move into another person.

It is more manners

Cover your head?

kiers47

AGC wrote: »

He is 16/1, playing as good as anyone in world at minute and has won at Augusta twice. I wouldn’t back against him.

I'm not saying he doesn't have a great chance. I just don't think there is any chance he will be the favorite. He would probably need to win next week as well to have a chance of starting favorite

FixdePitchmark

First Up wrote: »

Cover your head?

yes - I know , but someone is going to get hit and you could move to a place you end up getting hit.

Covering your head is grand - but we all know that is very limited what you can do with that - on a course I'm behind my bag if possible.

Yes look - it should be shouted - but in big big galleries there are risks with it too - pushing, shoving, panic. Also at a big event - you wouldn't have a notion what hole , player , who the fore is for.

Look "fore" should be shouted , but I think the effectiveness of it is limited when people go on about it.

Dr. Bre

Wish Noren had made final - it would hve been better

Andrew Beef

Hopefully Bubba doesn’t win another Major ever again...an utterly reprehensible character.

FixdePitchmark

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Where are there 10 to 20 players playing better than Bubba?? He won at Riveria which is considered one of best courses on tour, 9th in Mexico and about to win here where he is ripping the driver and his putting is looking solid again.

Add to the fact that he has won twice around Augusta and that he can shape the ball easily both ways, he will certainly be one of the main favorites.

His putting stat this season is 143 rd - that is terrible and you wouldn't have a hope at Augusta like that.
He is 24th in top 10s.
He is 53rd in scoring average.

It is fairly straightforward that there are 10 to 20 player + playing better than him.

I'm not ignoring the fact that he has won there and is an incredibly emotional streaky player.

But there are a serious number of players - playing way better than Bubba at present.

The top guys are 1 to 1.5 shots a round ahead of Bubba at present- that is a lot per round.

First Up

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

First Up wrote: »

Cover your head?

yes - I know , but someone is going to get hit and you could move to a place you end up getting hit.

Covering your head is grand - but we all know that is very limited what you can do with that - on a course I'm behind my bag if possible.

Yes look - it should be shouted - but in big big galleries there are risks with it too - pushing, shoving, panic. Also at a big event - you wouldn't have a notion what hole , player , who the fore is for.

Look "fore" should be shouted , but I think the effectiveness of it is limited when people go on about it.

After a shout of "fore" you have about 5 seconds at most and even if you could move, you don't know which way. All anyone can do is reduce the risk of a head injury by covering up. A hit on the head can be fatal. A proper shout allows people defend against that and it is the absolute minimum of what is needed.

I wouldn't bother with fines or even penalty shots. I'd suggest criminal prosecutions.

FixdePitchmark

First Up wrote: »

After a shout of "fore" you have about 5 seconds at most and even if you could move, you don't know which way. All anyone can do is reduce the risk of a head injury by covering up. A hit on the head can be fatal. A proper shout allows people defend against that and it is the absolute minimum of what is needed.

I wouldn't bother with fines or even penalty shots. I'd suggest criminal prosecutions.

Well for something that is not even enforced at all at present - a criminal prosecution is a big jump

First Up

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

First Up wrote: »

After a shout of "fore" you have about 5 seconds at most and even if you could move, you don't know which way. All anyone can do is reduce the risk of a head injury by covering up. A hit on the head can be fatal. A proper shout allows people defend against that and it is the absolute minimum of what is needed.

I wouldn't bother with fines or even penalty shots. I'd suggest criminal prosecutions.

Well for something that is not even enforced at all at present - a criminal prosecution is a big jump

It might focus a few minds.

FixdePitchmark

First Up wrote: »

It might focus a few minds.

"free the golf fore".

FixdePitchmark

The course looks very very easy.

First Up

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

The course looks very very easy.

Not if you are 6 down it doesn't.

Rikand

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

The course looks very very easy.

Its a shotmakers course. Ideal for a Comanche like bubba

eagle eye

Two matches at the end were so one-sided. The semi-final between Noren and Kisner was fantastic, they both went around -7.

kiers47

eagle eye wrote: »

Two matches at the end were so one-sided. The semi-final between Noren and Kisner was fantastic, they both went around -7.

It was a great match alright. I thought they said in the coverage it was -5 for both? I must have picked it up wrong.

AGC

Andrew Beef wrote: »

Hopefully Bubba doesn’t win another Major ever again...an utterly reprehensible character.

Having seen a piece during this week about him at his hometown I’d disagree.

He is a blubbering mess but seems a decent bloke to me.

gimli2112

after he won his first Masters he acted out a bit at an event in France, didn't read up on it but he came across pretty badly. Could never warm to him as a result.

benny79

Just on posts above got me thinking. If a golfer sent a ball into the crowd and nobody shouted fore, hit someone on the head and they died would they get done for manslaughter?

AGC

gimli2112 wrote: »

after he won his first Masters he acted out a bit at an event in France, didn't read up on it but he came across pretty badly. Could never warm to him as a result.

Yeah he went on a rant about the stewards and that was bad alright.

Potential Underachiever

I like Bubba, obv don't know him personally but I'd be a fan of his game and persona. Sure he might not shout fore but most of the yanks don't seem to bother, it should be clamped down on.

Russman

benny79 wrote: »

Just on posts above got me thinking. If a golfer sent a ball into the crowd and nobody shouted fore, hit someone on the head and they died would they get done for manslaughter?

On the civil side of things I think there's something in the small print on the back of your ticket waiving any rights you might have for being hit with a ball etc.

Not sure if a criminal conviction would be pursued by the police, I guess it would depend on what state it was in maybe.

Russman

AGC wrote: »

Yeah he went on a rant about the stewards and that was bad alright.

Didn't he refer to the Eiffel Tower as "the big tower" and the Louvre as "the building that starts with an L" ? Something like that anyway, didn't come across very well, but I'd give him a pass on those if he started shouting fore !

Wombatman

Poor performance from the European players. Does not bode well for the Ryder Cup.

Russman

Wombatman wrote: »

Poor performance from the European players. Does not bode well for the Ryder Cup.

I wouldn't read too much into it tbh. The Ryder Cup is a completely different animal and is 6 months away.

Deeper Blue

Russman wrote: »

Didn't he refer to the Eiffel Tower as "the big tower" and the Louvre as "the building that starts with an L" ? Something like that anyway, didn't come across very well, but I'd give him a pass on those if he started shouting fore !

Fairly sure he also complained about having to share a cart with another player when they were being taken back to the clubhouse during a rain delay. He came across terribly from what I recall.