Milk Price- Please read Mod note in post #1

Buford T. Justice XIX

Deepsouthwest wrote: »

She must've had the wrong breeding for his system!

Should have crossed her with NZ jersey.

whelan2

Sam Kade wrote: »

True, neighbours wife spent many a day walking cows 2 miles to and from grazing same woman couldn't walk around dunnes stores now.

they say alot of it is to do with the surface you are walking on, a few of the women that always walk the roads here have had to get thier hips done as the surface at the side of the road is uneven

alps

Sam Kade wrote: »

She was city bred and never came close to a cow until she met him in her 30's.

To be fair...A lot of them can have pretty good type

keep going

A handy little tip for faraway paddocks , have an entrance at the parlour side and one at the far side along the passage but use the far one for leaving in the cows but the near one for bring in them home.that way you only have to go for them and dont have to close them in if you get my drift.must admit havent got around to doing it yet

mf240

Done a lot of relief milking in my time.

Bad roads. And fcuking dogs after cows are two of the biggest causes of lameness in my opion.

Cows need to be allowed travel at there own pace.

orm0nd

june price

Arrabawn base 27.87

b/f 3.72
p3.5
29.55 c/ltr

cow yield for month 895ltr (15 collections )

Deepsouthwest

browned wrote: »

The average grazing per paddock is something like 9/10. Are these farm with the long distance paddocks on highly stocked milking platforms? If not why don't ye just graze young stock or take silage from these paddocks during the summer and leave the long walks for the shoulders. You'd reduce the number of walks from 10 down to say 4.

If the herd and milking platform expands to being too long and narrow with too many long walks they say the next step is oad

My "faraway" ground is predominantly silage ground, and young stock, not even included in milking platform for SR etc. Only put cows up there last yr for the first time. Gone back up there again today, the biggest isn't the distance, it's that I have to walk them on the public road( not a main road) for the last 300/400 metres. I'm more experimenting with the idea of grazing it a little more often, and pushing my stocking rate even higher knowing that I have to fall back on. Don't want to have all the cows nxt yr and find that grazing this faraway is just not working out. Having said that, when ur tight for grass u'd walk cows anywhere
The possibility of going OAD late in the season would also be considered.

freedominacup

Greengrass1 wrote: »

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/cutting-costs-as-global-dairy-markets-show-no-signs-of-recovery-185553

If I was a fronterra supplier/shareholder I'd be asking serious questions. I'm told cost of living in NZ is much lower than here but the 523 jobs they're cutting are earning just under 70k euro on average . That must be a substantial salary in NZ. If that's the lower paid end of the scale, which you'd presume to be the case in an initial redundancy round, then there must be some fat to cut further up the food chain. If the management is as bad as something like this would lead you to believe then fronterra mightened be the all singing, all dancing world beater we've been led to believe. Maybe we should be revisiting the conventional wisdom about bigger being better in dairy processing in this country. Monopolies, duopopolies even the government supported triopoly that many would see emerging here are bound to lead to sloppy management and practices against suppliers interests.

Buford T. Justice XIX

freedominacup wrote: »

If I was a fronterra supplier/shareholder I'd be asking serious questions. I'm told cost of living in NZ is much lower than here but the 523 jobs they're cutting are earning just under 70k euro on average . That must be a substantial salary in NZ. If that's the lower paid end of the scale, which you'd presume to be the case in an initial redundancy round, then there must be some fat to cut further up the food chain. If the management is as bad as something like this would lead you to believe then fronterra mightened be the all singing, all dancing world beater we've been led to believe. Maybe we should be revisiting the conventional wisdom about bigger being better in dairy processing in this country. Monopolies, duopopolies even the government supported triopoly that many would see emerging here are bound to lead to sloppy management and practices against suppliers interests.

While i agree with you, i think it's inevitable that the smaller processors will be swallowed up in time by the bigger processors.

It's already happening to a slow degree but if milk price stays bouncing along the bottom it's not only milk suppliers who will have hard decisions to make.

mahoney_j

Arrabawn base 27,87 my price 29.80 at 3.53 fat 3.58 protein

Sacrolyte

mahoney_j wrote: »

A lad made a good statement to me at walk one day,solids determine how big your net milk price per litre is but amount of litres determines how big the eft to bank account is!!

Or as an old fella said to me. "Solids are pence,Gallons are pounds.

Sam Kade

I was looking at old ballyclough milk statements from 1986 today, 78 pence a gallon. That converts to 21.8 cent a litre and the costs were lower back then, no box tickers to worry about either. It rose to a pound gallon in nov but fat was 5% and protein was over 4.

just do it

Sam Kade wrote: »

I was looking at old ballyclough milk statements from 1986 today, 78 pence a gallon. That converts to 21.8 cent a litre and the costs were lower back then, no box tickers to worry about either. It rose to a pound gallon in nov but fat was 5% and protein was over 4.

Do you remember what yield was and SR? Sometimes it seems you've to make progress just to stay still

just do it

oxjkqg wrote: »

Just do it ur message inbox is full :pac::rolleyes:

Try again

Sam Kade

just do it wrote: »

Do you remember what yield was and SR? Sometimes it seems you've to make progress just to stay still

Not great back then around 800 gallons and a cow to 2 acres and stuck with milk quotas. Everything was self sufficient though very little bought in meal.

Cow Porter

See one of the big dairy states California has finally got rain. 2nd time in a year I think

Milked out

Net price recieved 29.471c/l incl vat, at 3.58p, 3.88bf. Base price 27c/l Dairygold

Top 10% 3.7p, 4.18bf avg price incl vat 31.17
Bottom 10% 3.28p, 3.62bf avg price incl vat 26.93
Afaik both prices before levies deducted

Greengrass1

Milked out wrote: »

Net price recieved 29.471c/l incl vat, at 3.58p, 3.88bf. Base price 27c/l Dairygold

Top 10% 3.7p, 4.18bf avg price incl vat 31.17
Bottom 10% 3.28p, 3.62bf avg price incl vat 26.93
Afaik both prices before levies deducted

That's a sore price to get at bttm 10%

just do it

Milked out wrote: »

Net price recieved 29.471c/l incl vat, at 3.58p, 3.88bf. Base price 27c/l Dairygold

Top 10% 3.7p, 4.18bf avg price incl vat 31.17
Bottom 10% 3.28p, 3.62bf avg price incl vat 26.93
Afaik both prices before levies deducted

Interesting to see top and bottom 10%. Fancy a guess what percentile your at?

Milked out

just do it wrote: »

Interesting to see top and bottom 10%. Fancy a guess what percentile your at?

Well before levies deducted I got 29.788 so just shy of 1.4 cent off the top 10. Also lost .1c for a thermoduric test so a bit off,. Our p was .08 above average and bf .03 above average so maybe in the top 40%. However our autumn calvers are lifting our solids a bit and majority are spring suppliers so if I was all spring id prob be back a bit further

blackdog1

just do it wrote: »

Interesting to see top and bottom 10%. Fancy a guess what percentile your at?

Can't base it on solids alone. Top 10% could be milking jerseys or 16 litres of milk average. It's good information to have but very few high producing herds will be up their. Still I do enjoy looking at it.

Timmaay

blackdog1 wrote: »

Can't base it on solids alone. Top 10% could be milking jerseys or 16 litres of milk average. It's good information to have but very few high producing herds will be up their. Still I do enjoy looking at it.

We need to all totally shift over from c/l to e/kgMS 2bh ha, far more transparent and relevant unit of measurement for everyone other than pure liquid suppliers.

Sacrolyte

Timmaay wrote: »

We need to all totally shift over from c/l to e/kgMS 2bh ha, far more transparent and relevant unit of measurement for everyone other than pure liquid suppliers.

Sthap it. Sthap it. I'm still getting used to cent/litre from pence/gallon. It might be ok for ye dairy info geeks but for a broken arse cow man like myself leave me alone.

just do it

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Sthap it. Sthap it. I'm still getting used to cent/litre from pence/gallon. It might be ok for ye dairy info geeks but for a broken arse cow man like myself leave me alone.

Quote of the week. What's a lad like you doing on d' computer?

Sacrolyte

just do it wrote: »

Quote of the week. What's a lad like you doing on d' computer?

Fhats a computer?

Dawggone

Looks like we are guaranteed a minimum milk price of 34cpl until the new year.

Even though I don't entirely agree with the way that French farmers protest, I have to admit they get results.

frazzledhome

Dawggone wrote: »

Looks like we are guaranteed a minimum milk price of 34cpl until the new year.

Even though I don't entirely agree with the way that French farmers protest, I have to admit they get results.

Was reading about the protests, Jesus they take no prisoners but what I find interesting is no backlash from the non farming public.

Couldn't see myself having any part in reversing a dung spreader up to the Dvo and letting fly. Be some craic to watch though. The dung would want to be from a shed with a concrete floor or there wouldn't be a pane of glass in tact

Dawggone

frazzledhome wrote: »

Was reading about the protests, Jesus they take no prisoners but what I find interesting is no backlash from the non farming public.

Couldn't see myself having any part in reversing a dung spreader up to the Dvo and letting fly. Be some craic to watch though. The dung would want to be from a shed with a concrete floor or there wouldn't be a pane of glass in tact

Crazy stuff tbh. All trucks were halted at the roadblocks and ransacked if carrying foreign produce. Lidl and Aldi trucks got a hammering...all within full view of cops/customs.
Herds of pigs hunted through supermarkets...trucks set alight after being ransacked. Madness.

Blackgrass

Dawggone wrote: »

Crazy stuff tbh. All trucks were halted at the roadblocks and ransacked if carrying foreign produce. Lidl and Aldi trucks got a hammering...all within full view of cops/customs.
Herds of pigs hunted through supermarkets...trucks set alight after being ransacked. Madness.

So a bunch of thugs who can't deal with economics/markets and will just throw their toys out of the pram because, reasons?

Dawggone

Blackgrass wrote: »

So a bunch of thugs who can't deal with economics/markets and will just throw their toys out of the pram because, reasons?

Because they can.
Agrarian, socialist culture...