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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Latchy wrote: »
    If it had been built in India instead of Belfast .

    http://i.imgur.com/xrdpsqp.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Exactly , if anybody knows anything about sinking ships it's the Indians .


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    orestes wrote: »
    Unload the passengers onto the iceberg? Do you think they should have gone chasing after it and thrown a lasso around it or something?


    Easw to come along side and rig some sort of bridge.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    I will give you one problem out of hundreds.

    An iceberg is not a flat surface, it is made of ice. How are you supposed to have 2500 passengers on it?

    Any iceberg I've ever seen was flat on top.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,324 ✭✭✭BillyMitchel


    3 reason why this is the worst thread ever.

    Answers in 25 mins.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,275 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    kneemos wrote: »
    Easw to come along side and rig some sort of bridge.

    I no longer wish to feed the troll.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,746 ✭✭✭SeanW


    kneemos wrote: »
    What the problem?
    The reason noone thought to put all the passengers onto the 'berg was that it is retarded.

    You're right about "beaching" the ship though, the ship was designed so that up to 4 watertight compartments could be breached and the ship would stay afloat. The port-round maneuvre is what caused 6 compartments to be breached, 5 of them too severely for the pumps to compensate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Willie Frazer claims that it was the RA who build the iceberg in West Belfast.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    kneemos wrote: »
    Easw to come along side and rig some sort of bridge.

    So: turn the ship around, catch up with the iceberg, come up alongside it while matching and maintaining speed and direction perfectly, build bridge onto iceberg, unload over two thousand people onto iceberg, all while the ship just happens to be sinking.

    You consider this easy?

    Are you MacGyver or something?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    Latchy wrote: »
    Exactly , if anybody knows anything about sinking ships it's the Indians .

    and singing, sure they were the last off.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsPKNEUVew0


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,470 ✭✭✭Dave0301


    kneemos wrote: »
    Any iceberg I've ever seen was flat on top.

    I think you need to work on your definition of flat.....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Dont worry Titanic 2 will be along in 2017.

    It will be a genuine "authentic experience"........... according to the man behind the project.


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-21657201

    Lots of rich fat yanks wanting to buy tickets for it allready.






  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    OP, are you Michael Bay?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,373 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    If all passengers had oily fur and webbed feet
    kneemos wrote: »
    It was holed on the right so if they had steered a tight left turn it would have raised the right out of the water or after hitting the ice they could have rammed it and beached the bow,or just simply unloaded the passengers onto the berg.Amazing nobody thought of it.
    The webbed feet idea is more plausible


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    SeanW wrote: »
    The reason noone thought to put all the passengers onto the 'berg was that it is retarded.

    You're right about "beaching" the ship though, the ship was designed so that up to 4 watertight compartments could be breached and the ship would stay afloat. The port-round maneuvre is what caused 6 compartments to be breached, 5 of them too severely for the pumps to compensate.

    Did they do a port round manuever?


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Dave0301 wrote: »
    I think you need to work on your definition of flat.....

    Fair enough.The titanic one was flat though.If you know at least over a thousand people are going to drown anything is worth a try.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    rubadub wrote: »
    The webbed feet idea is more plausible

    :eek: my Nan who was born in Cork because her mother didn't travel on the Titanic did have webbed feet (well - two 'webbed' toes to be honest but on both feet) :eek::eek:

    Mind. Blown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭lanyard


    kneemos wrote: »
    Fair enough.The titanic one was flat though.If you know at least over a thousand people are going to drown anything is worth a try.

    It was not flat:

    http://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/blogs/titanic-iceberg-photo-heads-to-auction


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    lanyard wrote: »

    Certainly seems to be plenty of flat surface and easily acessible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    According to a Channel 4 visit to the titanic site, it would been fine if it had hit the iceberg head on.
    I can't imagine the iceberg moving much when it was hit as they are so massive below water, so the ship would have been stopped dead in it's tracks in no time.

    Lots of injuries and maybe deaths from that kind of stopping. But they showed a similar ship from 1904 that had the bow destroyed from an iceberg hit dead on.
    Amazing to think about it, the bow of the ship was destroyed but the ship didn't sink.



    After Hours answer = crap film and yer one Kate Winslet is a pig.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,746 ✭✭✭SeanW


    kneemos wrote: »
    Did they do a port round manuever?
    Tried to ... it didn't work obviously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    kneemos wrote: »
    Certainly seems to be plenty of flat surface and easily acessible.
    The iceberg is the white jaggedy thing.

    The flat thing is the ocean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,288 ✭✭✭TheUsual


    Send Bruce Willis's grandfather over by rowboat with an atomic bomb to blow up the iceberg first.


    Anyone worried about parking ships on rocks - that Costa Concordia's Captain Francesco Schettino did it twice in the one night while drunk and partying with a dancer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,409 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    SeanW wrote: »
    Tried to ... it didn't work obviously.

    After they hit?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    SeanW wrote: »
    1. If they had enough lifeboats (initial plans called for 3 times as many lifeboats per davitt.
    2. If the "crows nest" lookout crew had binoculars.
    3. If the watertight bulkheads went higher than E deck.
    4. If all the ice warnings sent to the Titanic had reached the captain (the two last ice reports never got to him).
    5. If the telegraph operator had recorded the final ice warning from the Californian or at least not responded in a rude manner (he was in a hurry to work through the passenger telegrams the Californian responded to that by ending its radio watch for the night)
    6. If the officer in charge of the nightshift had either headed the ship into the iceberg or simply turned rather than trying to do a "port round"
    7. If the rivets were all made of steel instead of second rate iron (some were iron, grade "Best" when highest was "Best Best" and as such had a lot of impurities (slag)).
    8. If the mysterious 3rd ship had responded to the morse lamp.
    9. If the Carpathia had been closer.
    10. If the orders from the Captain had been interpreted as Women and Children FIRST instead of Women and Children ONLY. (ok that wouldn't have saved all, but some).

    Also, if the ship had been going slower, they would have had more time to steer the ship away from the iceberg. Bruce Ismay wanted to make headlines and dock in New York a day early, so he instructed the captain to go full speed ahead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Crasp


    If my great grandfather and his father had used proper rivets instead of cheese


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    I hear James Cameron's next movie is going to be called Cinatit. Its a film about a load of people who are stranded in the middle of the Atlantic, rescued by a submarine and brought safely to Cork.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 487 ✭✭Cungi


    kneemos wrote: »
    There are three simple ways that all the passengers could have been saved...anybody know.Answers in twenty minutes.

    1: Wings

    2: Jet engines

    3: Superman


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    Ever seen that film Millennium?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,600 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Like many disasters the titanic was an absolute litany of individual errors than combined to sink the ship. Desperately unlucky in some ways.

    To take the spotting lads alone, they were competing with a moonless night, wave-less sea, no access to binoculars because at the last minute personal had changed and one of the men left at home had the keys to the locker and incorrect info about ice bergs.

    Had any one of those 4 unusual links been missing from the chain they probably would have spotted it.


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