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Bangernomics car of the week/day part III
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Which bit?
It's a fact (easy to verify) that slightly older second hand cars (say older than '07) with slightly bigger than average petrol engines (say 2l) are cheaper here in Ireland than anywhere else in the world
Quite right. But do you think its directly correlated to the weird tax system we have and if so, would it work out more or less the same compared to a situation where we did't penalize people for driving larger engine petrol cars?
In such a scenario one would expect the price of the car to go up considerably as soon as the tax rates came down, would one not?
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It's a bit trickier than that I believe...
It's not just the relatively high tax on older petrol cars (with relatively big engines). Another aspect is our severe recession which has tilted the natural equilibrium of supply and demand caused by the fact that more and more people are selling, and fewer people are buying. Desperate people are selling one of the few remaining assets that they have, emigrating people are doing the same, not helping themselves by needing money quickly. And then there is the mass hysteria that is telling everyone they should buy a small engined diesel car
Glass half full view: if you are looking to buy a second hand car - there's superb value for money in petrol engined family sized cars here
My ads on adverts.ie:
Victron stuff for sale, Multiplus-II, Quattro, other inverters and batteries and usually some watches!
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03 Seat Toledo, nct to jan 15, 88k miles, 1250
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-toledo-03-nct-2015/6123054
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micra, nct to june 14, 880 euro
New clutch, suspension and tires
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/nissan-micra-99-nct-just-passed-06-2014/6147538
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It's a bit trickier than that I believe...
It's not just the relatively high tax on older petrol cars (with relatively big engines). Another aspect is our severe recession which has tilted the natural equilibrium of supply and demand caused by the fact that more and more people are selling, and fewer people are buying. Desperate people are selling one of the few remaining assets that they have, emigrating people are doing the same, not helping themselves by needing money quickly. And then there is the mass hysteria that is telling everyone they should buy a small engined diesel car
Glass half full view: if you are looking to buy a second hand car - there's superb value for money in petrol engined family sized cars here
Yeah , the second hand car market in Ireland has been hit by the taxation system and the recession. If you have a mid size petrol car , you don't get much on a trade in and you will probably buy a similar one for a small price. It has taken the fun out of changing a car , most do not want these cars as trade ins. The taxation system created a stupid anomaly which will not be fixed until everyone drives an 08 car. But you're right , buy what you like and can afford to run and forget about what the mass tells us.:D0 -
Less bollox talk and more bangers!
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-skoda-octavia-1-9tdi-nct-tax/6148586
On a side note regarding the Fiat, they are supposed to be city cars so they are designed to withstand the impact of a city speed crash.
Of course if you drive it at 120 on the motorway and smash into another more modern bigger car then it wont fair well.
The idea they should be banned is just pure idiocy.
It's thanks to these cars that we can start driving at a young age with relatively cheap insurance.
And I'd agree that those motors are good fun to drive, the revvyness of them 0 -
An unusually worded ad to say the least. :P
1993 BMW 320i
NCT 08/14
€650
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320i-long-nct/61486150 -
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Some more white goods.
2001 VW Lupo
NCT 01/15
94k miles
€1400
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And one more for good measure.
2003 VW Bora 1.4
NCT 05/14
Comfort line so no paddy spec here. :pac:
€1850
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-vw-bora-comfort-model/61471820 -
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Ooh, on an unrelated note; I'm buying a 1989 Daihatsu Charade tomorrow, to replace my 1995 Peugeot 106. I'll tax it straight away and use it for a month. My theory is; if I drive a very, very **** car for a while, I won't mind paying the tax on my Legend in January. Foolproof.
Probably belongs in the fixer-upper thread, but its my daily from henceforth. I need to do a few things, of course, but I'll be transferring my insurance during the week.0 -
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Yeah , the second hand car market in Ireland has been hit by the taxation system and the recession. If you have a mid size petrol car , you don't get much on a trade in and you will probably buy a similar one for a small price. It has taken the fun out of changing a car , most do not want these cars as trade ins. The taxation system created a stupid anomaly which will not be fixed until everyone drives an 08 car. But you're right , buy what you like and can afford to run and forget about what the mass tells us.:D
You're right there if you operate in the mid range, say from a couple of grand up to up to 7 or 8 or whatever. This system though is perfect if you're a Bangernomics head. Buy a car for a grand which might cost 2 or 3 in a "normal" market, drive it into the ground, scrap it and then get another one.
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Probably belongs in the fixer-upper thread, but its my daily from henceforth. I need to do a few things, of course, but I'll be transferring my insurance during the week.
Wear well Kaiser..nothing sh1t about them I had an 88 5dr 1l jap import myself as my 1st road legal car back in my learner days..
great little cars..I seen your new Charade on donedeal too great revvy 3cyl sounds like half a 911:D
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Wear well Kaiser..nothing sh1t about them I had an 88 5dr 1l jap import myself as my 1st road legal car back in my learner days..
great little cars..I seen your new Charade on donedeal too great revvy 3cyl sounds like half a 911:D
Have fun in her I look forward to your updates:)
Thanks, I'm going to run the feck out of it this month. 0 -
Probably belongs in the fixer-upper thread, but its my daily from henceforth. I need to do a few things, of course, but I'll be transferring my insurance during the week.
Love those things. Had a 92 Charade a few years ago, 220k on the clock, ran perfect. No power steering, gearbox like a Victorian signal box, clutch that'd break your leg but had so much character.
20 quids worth of petrol lasted about a month too.0 -
Moneymaker wrote: »Love those things. Had a 92 Charade a few years ago, 220k on the clock, ran perfect. No power steering, gearbox like a Victorian signal box, clutch that'd break your leg but had so much character.
20 quids worth of petrol lasted about a month too.
A smashing 92k kms on this
I gotta fill the tank tomorrow and see how long it'll last..0 -
And now for this evening's bangers,
1989 Volvo 240 Estate
2.0 Petrol
187k Miles
NCT 5/14, tax 12/13
€1200. This would make an excellent family bus for €1k, I reckon. Keep it for a few more years and you can avail of classic tax, too.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/volvo-240-gl/6150674
I take it the owner is fond of his old Volvos, going by the other 240 in the background.0 -
And if big Swedes aren't your thing,
1994 Merc E220 Coupe
2.2 Petrol
150k Miles
NCT 4/14
€1250. I dunno, its a bit dull, yet interesting. It looks tidy, I guess the catch is 900-odd tax. Worth a mention all the same, I reckon.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-e220-coupe/5447162
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Moneymaker wrote: »Love those things. Had a 92 Charade a few years ago, 220k on the clock, ran perfect. No power steering, gearbox like a Victorian signal box, clutch that'd break your leg but had so much character.
20 quids worth of petrol lasted about a month too.
How many litres would you buy for 20 quid though?0 -
02 honda civic type r, 2k euro
no mention of nct but it probably has one.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-type-r/6149993
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02 honda civic type r, 2k euro
no mention of nct but it probably has one.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-type-r/6149993
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