Bangernomics car of the week/day part III

Old diesel

pajor wrote: »

It is still for sale..

Cars ireland says one owner too!

okay - its just there was a tread yesterday about 2.0 Corolla diesels (someones looking for one for some reason) - a car the same as this one - silver liftback etc was mentioned - and the OP said he had been beaten to it.

Could it be how the ad was never taken down

Ded_Zebra

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

the back bumper looks like it was painted with rattle cans... and not enough of them at that.

Also rivets or self tappers holding on the boot lift handle

Nice spec but I suspect a bit rough!

Old diesel

furtzy wrote: »

D regs went well over 100,000 in 2000 so might well be an Irish original

My suspicions of it being a Uk import was more down to the car having the aircon and an electric sunroof - never seen an Irish Corolla of this model with those.

To be fair - its possible that those were optional extras - and the car was specced up with them.

Also its a pre 00 model - earlier dash and headlights etc - seems more likely it was sold in Uk in early 00 as one of the last of the old model - and subsequently imported 2nd hand.

It makes no real difference though - if the cars in good condition - its a decent buy regardless - and the Sunroof and aircon (if it works) are a nice bonus imo.

Mileage more likely to be genuine on a Uk import too - as these wouldn't have been on the radar (imo) of a high mileage driver in the UK.

Over here though - anythings possible - seen this model Corolla been used a bit as taxis (don't know why though - rear legrooms poor for a taxi)

pajor

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

Also rivets or self tappers holding on the boot lift handle

Nice spec but I suspect a bit rough!

All a bit rough for sure, but hardly deal breakers if you want to buy an old diesel Toyota.

Old diesel

pajor wrote: »

All a bit rough for sure, but hardly deal breakers if you want to buy an old diesel Toyota.

Agreed - (sterotyping I know but...) I suspect the sort of person that would typically be interested in an old Corolla diesel - will just want something that works and drives okay - and will pass NCTs etc without fuss - and be reliable.

If they wanted more - they wouldn't be buying a 2.0 diesel Corolla diesel in the first place .

Few little cosmetic issues won't bother em too much id say

Ded_Zebra

pajor wrote: »

All a bit rough for sure, but hardly deal breakers if you want to buy an old diesel Toyota.

But if the boot handle has been abused and fixed on the cheap what else has;)

pajor

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

But if the boot handle has been abused and fixed on the cheap what else has;)

Touché. :pac:

unkel

furtzy wrote: »

D regs went well over 100,000 in 2000 so might well be an Irish original

Interesting point. Deserves it's own thread. I've started it

Linky

Old diesel

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

But if the boot handle has been abused and fixed on the cheap what else has;)

Its a fair point - but I think at this age - you need to look at the car overall - and make the judgement call based on the whole cars condition.

Thing is - if that was all that was literally wrong with the car - it would still be a good purchase imo - if all that was needed was a cheap reliable runabout.

Expensive to tax admittedly - but a good one of these wlll be more reliable then most yokes - even much newer cars - which compensates I think.

They are on the slow side though - but they get you there, they aren't great for fast overtakes - but they aren't too bad apart from that

Cantona's Collars

http://www.adverts.ie/car/nissan/primera/02-nissan-primera/4217780

€900 for 02 Primera

jharr100

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/03-bmw-520i-sport/5883988

2003 520i auto , now down to E1150 ... NCT 06/14


Will somebody please buy this before I drive to Limerick and do something my wife will divorce me for!!!!

Kaiser D

I'm not one for assumptions but surely theres something wrong with that E39 if it hasn't been sold in the past few weeks. Even at its original price it was really cheap.

Ded_Zebra

Old diesel wrote: »

Its a fair point - but I think at this age - you need to look at the car overall - and make the judgement call based on the whole cars condition.

Thing is - if that was all that was literally wrong with the car - it would still be a good purchase imo - if all that was needed was a cheap reliable runabout.

Expensive to tax admittedly - but a good one of these wlll be more reliable then most yokes - even much newer cars - which compensates I think.

They are on the slow side though - but they get you there, they aren't great for fast overtakes - but they aren't too bad apart from that

Oh you're absolutely right, I can only speculate about it's condition but in my experience things like that back bumper and boot handle and normally connected to an overall rough and bad condition car. Not always though.

jharr100

Kaiser D wrote: »

I'm not one for assumptions but surely theres something wrong with that E39 if it hasn't been sold in the past few weeks. Even at its original price it was really cheap.

Agreed..
Anybody in the area gone for a test drive?

alias no.9

Old diesel wrote: »

My suspicions of it being a Uk import was more down to the car having the aircon and an electric sunroof - never seen an Irish Corolla of this model with those.

To be fair - its possible that those were optional extras - and the car was specced up with them.

Also its a pre 00 model - earlier dash and headlights etc - seems more likely it was sold in Uk in early 00 as one of the last of the old model - and subsequently imported 2nd hand.

It makes no real difference though - if the cars in good condition - its a decent buy regardless - and the Sunroof and aircon (if it works) are a nice bonus imo.

Mileage more likely to be genuine on a Uk import too - as these wouldn't have been on the radar (imo) of a high mileage driver in the UK.

Over here though - anythings possible - seen this model Corolla been used a bit as taxis (don't know why though - rear legrooms poor for a taxi)

[sweeping generalization] The kind who'd buy a diesel Corolla new in this country wouldn't be the 'hatchback' type and they'd be wanting their car to be new for a little bit longer too, no end of year purchases for them.[/sweeping generalization]

Import all the way

unkel

jharr100 wrote: »

2003 520i auto , now down to E1150 ...

I think I posted this car up first here a week or two ago. Wasn't the asking €1,650 back then?

That was very good value. At €1,150 it's a steal. I haven't a clue why it's not selling. I can only think of:

1. The obvious - it's a big gas guzzling €1000 tax 2.2l monster of an engine in a supercar beyond the reach insurance wise of 95% of Irish drivers too (nothing new here, the market of buyers of this car is only getting a bit smaller. I would have thought the low asking price would separate the wheat from the chaff)

2. It's in Limerick, 2 hours drive from the Dublin area where half of the country lives

3. There's something wrong with the car

Anybody viewing this car or even talking to the seller on the phone, let us know your experience!

JohnBoy26

alias no.9 wrote: »

[sweeping generalization] The kind who'd buy a diesel Corolla new in this country wouldn't be the 'hatchback' type and they'd be wanting their car to be new for a little bit longer too, no end of year purchases for them.[/sweeping generalization]

Import all the way

indeed it is, confirmed by putting the reg into motorcheck. it's a uk gs model.

https://www.motorcheck.ie/free-car-check/00d113566/

delthedriver

unkel wrote: »

I think I posted this car up first here a week or two ago. Wasn't the asking €1,650 back then?

That was very good value. At €1,150 it's a steal. I haven't a clue why it's not selling. I can only think of:

1. The obvious - it's a big gas guzzling €1000 tax 2.2l monster of an engine in a supercar beyond the reach insurance wise of 95% of Irish drivers too (nothing new here, the market of buyers of this car is only getting a bit smaller. I would have thought the low asking price would separate the wheat from the chaff)

2. It's in Limerick, 2 hours drive from the Dublin area where half of the country lives

3. There's something wrong with the car

Anybody viewing this car or even talking to the seller on the phone, let us know your experience!

Buy it, drive it for a year and sell on makes it very cheap motoring?

Kaiser D

delthedriver wrote: »

Buy it, drive it for a year and sell on makes it very cheap motoring?

Yeah, but what we're saying is, its too cheap. So if you buy it, it probably won't work out as "cheap motoring" or at least as cheap as you had hoped.

johndaman66

unkel wrote: »

2.2l monster of an engine in a supercar beyond the reach insurance wise of 95% of Irish drivers too......

2. It's in Limerick, 2 hours drive from the Dublin area where half of the country lives

Wow!....now there are a few sweeping generalisations without any basis.

First of I'm not sure where you pulled that figure of 95% from. Yeah the insurance on it would be too pricey for quite a few but 95% of Irish drivers??...I'd suggest you do the maths on that one again unkel. Ah hell of a lot more than 5% of drivers out there would comfortably be able to insure that car. Agreed with you that not too many out there would be inclined to buy such a car of that vintage in the first place if they could afford or see themselves justifying the motor tax. But your comment re insurance....to me it seems as if you very much plucked that out of the sky.

I'm a 32 year old chap and it cost me €360 to insure my current 1.6 litre Focus. I could insure a 3.2 Mercedes S Class for less than €600 or €240 more than Focus last time I checked. Haven't checked but am sure the 2.2 BMW should not be too much trouble for me or a large proportion of the driving population (certainly more than 5%) to insure on that basis

On the second point I quoted. Yep no doubt in my mind that there is a more vibrant motors market and obviously higher population density in Dublin. However, we do have roads, cars and people living in the Mid West too you know. Might sell that bit quicker than Dublin but it will sell in Limerick too if its priced right.

Sorry now unkel, don't want to fall out with you and do generally find you to be a great contributor and mod but felt I needed to pull you up on them few comments.

bladespin

johndaman66 wrote: »

Wow!....now there are a few sweeping generalisations without any basis.

Thinking you're missing the humour somewhat there.

johndaman66

bladespin wrote: »

Thinking you're missing the humour somewhat there.

Maybe and I'm sure unkel was attempting to convey sarcasm but to me it wasn't done too well. Sarcasm is great too...contrary to popular thinking I do feel that sarcasm is actually perhaps the highest form of wit as long as its done right and as long as your able to make or or at least take a jibe at yourself along the way too.

However, on reading unkels post and them few points I reference in particular I feel its just too far of the mark to be sarcastic, hence no humor and the fact that its so far off the mark renders it a bit of a pointless post to me anyway.

Sorry again unkel, as I say I generally find you a great poster and mod but I feel them few points you made are just too far off the mark entirely.

macshadow

anyone know if all bmw e39's are six cylinder?

johndaman66

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/306-hdi-dturbo-clean/5857896

Probably more sensible buys out there but always had a soft spot for the HDI and GTI 6 306's myself so gonna post it nonetheless.

Mileage on the high side but its claimed to have being well maintained. Obviously got a smack at the front at some stage, may (may not be cosmetic). A chat with the seller, a drive and examination of the car would tell a lot

davycc

macshadow wrote: »

anyone know if all bmw e39's are six cylinder?

most in ireland are yes..

520i 523i 525i 528i & 530i were straight 6 petrol models.

525d & 530d were the 6cyl diesels,

535i & 540i & M5 were alll V8s:D

JohnBoy26

johndaman66 wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/306-hdi-dturbo-clean/5857896

Probably more sensible buys out there but always had a soft spot for the HDI and GTI 6 306's myself so gonna post it nonetheless.

Mileage on the high side but its claimed to have being well maintained. Obviously got a smack at the front at some stage, may (may not be cosmetic). A chat with the seller, a drive and examination of the car would tell a lot

Them 306s are a nice looking car but that example looks far from well maintained to me.

Imo and sorry to say this but it looks like a rough heap that has fallen into the wrong hands.

nd

bear1 wrote: »

This is the gumtree ad right? When I open the link I don't see any pics??
Only going on what the description says and the pic thats posted

are you using firefox and adblock? If so, disable adblock on gumtree to see the picts.

johndaman66

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Them 306s are a nice looking car but that example looks far from well maintained to me.

Imo and sorry to say this but it looks like a rough heap that has fallen into the wrong hands.

Fair points JohnBoy the car does probably look a bit ropey around the edges but as I say a drive and examination of the car would tell a lot. Sometimes, not all the time mind but sometimes the more slightly beat up looking cars can be the ones that are better underneath.

Its just I was getting a hugh craving for the more fancy 306's during the week and thats why I posted;) I was considering one when I was changing at one stage once. Drove about 3 or 4 hdi's and a gti. All the hdi's looked a hell of a lot better in the photos than in reality. Still though they were all nice to drive. Fantastic looking cars too in my opinion especially in the right colour and assuming they haven't being totally molested.

Old diesel

unkel wrote: »

I think I posted this car up first here a week or two ago. Wasn't the asking €1,650 back then?

That was very good value. At €1,150 it's a steal. I haven't a clue why it's not selling. I can only think of:

1. The obvious - it's a big gas guzzling €1000 tax 2.2l monster of an engine in a supercar beyond the reach insurance wise of 95% of Irish drivers too (nothing new here, the market of buyers of this car is only getting a bit smaller. I would have thought the low asking price would separate the wheat from the chaff)

2. It's in Limerick, 2 hours drive from the Dublin area where half of the country lives

3. There's something wrong with the car

Anybody viewing this car or even talking to the seller on the phone, let us know your experience!

Potential problem I see - is that the sort of people who would be E 39 purchaser - already are possibly in an E 39 of their own.

Very few purchasers out there for a car like this - when you get down to this money - people at this end of the market buy cars this cheap because that's what they can afford.

Imo - I think such people focus on things like low tax (if your strapped for cash - 1.4 tax is better then 2.5) - and are often attracted to cars like Micras and Fiestas for lower running costs etc.

In reality - some people* who need a cheap car should consider imo - the idea of consider 1.8 to 2.2 type cars - if (and its a really big if) if that means they get into a car in superior condition that's been minded and is been sold cheap due to being too big and engine size being bigger then most once.

it is better I think if you need a cheap reliable car - to be in a 1.8 in excellent condition and that's reliable then be in a 1.4 that's a heap.

In saying that - if the cars been around a while - it makes a lot of sense for a potential purchaser to take care with this particular example.

However - id advise care with e 39s regardless - I think they are okay (or can be) for reliability - but to be frank - they can have issues.

But that doesn't make them a bad buy generally as a car - they just carry more chance of having issues then a Corolla or Avensis etc.

*Many to be fair don't want a bigger car on size grounds - ie smaller cars easier to park/drive etc.

pajor

Grand little run about for someone.

2001 Peugeot 106
NCT 04/14
78k
€675



http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/peugeot-106-for-sale/5962448