is it just me, or is most modern music crap?

Banjo String

Today's music for the most part seems to be full of manufactured pop groups, all pumping out the same cheesy trash.


We need a new guitar based rock band revolution.

Can anyone recommend me a band that have emerged in the last few years to listen to?

I'm convinced talent has dried up :mad:

crazyderk

Oh someones gotten old!

melekalikimaka

SamHall wrote: »

Today's music for the most part seems to be full of manufactured pop groups, all pumping out the same cheesy trash.


We need a new guitar based rock band revolution.

Can anyone recommend me a band that have emerged in the last few years to listen to?

I'm convinced talent has dried up :mad:

suburban legends
sonic boom six
Bandits Of the Acoustic Revolution

/close thread

Mushy

No its just harder to find stuff you like amidst all the manufactured stuff.

Talent most certainly hasnt dried up.

wobbles-grogan

Just listen to some alternative stuff that isnt on the useless radio stations.

There's loads of good music out nowadays, its just that its hard to find amidst all the surage!

telekon

Its not there's not talent out there, its just that they don't get any airtime. However, I do agree that the charts at the moment are the worst they ever have been. Awful sh*te.

SunnyDub1

Not everyone has the same taste of music.

Personally I prefer cheesy trash then some guitar based rock group.

Shenshen

I think most music has been crap for quite a long time, it's just that we had more good music in the "past" because the "past" usually refers to a few decades, whereas "now" refers just to the last year or so.

So obviously we assume that there was more good music in the past, we simply don't realise that is was just as thin on the ground back then, it just becomes more when looked at as a "best of" of the last few decades.

That said, I find myself listening mostly to classical these days. I seem to have somewhat lost my taste for contemporary music

hoodwinked

op i thought the same,

listening to olly murs last night and i thought "oh dear god im liking this music i must be getting old...."

then i thought, "nah.....im not old until i class the Foo Fighters as 'noise' and i still Love their music, so im ok..."


close call though

smash

Every generation thinks the following generation's music is crap.

melekalikimaka

after the ska punk wave of the mid 90's, everything thing is different shades of grey to me now :-(

wobbles-grogan

smash wrote: »

Every generation thinks the following generation's music is crap.

Thats cos the following generation's music IS crap!

Ihatecuddles-old

How did Bressie get to no.1?

I have to mute it when he sings, he's absolutely crap!

seamus

You're just getting old.

To a certain extent it can appear on the surface that the proliferation of pop is getting worse, but it's not actually the case. The issue is that mainstream radio stations are "encouraged" by the major labels to include their pop acts in playlists.

Independent labels and smaller groups don't have the influence to do this, so they're dependent on the musically-minded DJs who build their own playlists rather than the usual DJs who just press play on the pre-arranged playlist given to them. If it's a show that's more about entertainment than music (like a breakfast show) then you're only going to hear crap. If it's a show about music, you'll hear music.

This doesn't mean though that there's less good music out there, you just have to work a little harder to hear it.

Worth noting that the big companies' profits have been consistently dropping year on year - singles sales are high, but album sales are dropping.

This is nothing to do with downloading, it's down to the simple fact that the people/children who buy pop music tend to buy singles, not albums. And singles aren't very profitable.

hoodwinked

smash wrote: »

Every generation thinks the following generation's music is crap.

Nah im a 90's teen, and i LOVE music from the 70's 80's.... two of the best decades out there for music...everything after is diamonds in the rough...

Ihatecuddles-old

hoodwinked wrote: »

Nah im a 90's-00's teen, and i LOVE music from the 70's 80's.... two of the best decades out there for music...

He said following generation, not previous.

Bajingo

You need to get yourself into the music world OP, there's tonnes of incredible bands and DJs out there today, find a decent music blog and ignore the radio!

hoodwinked

Ihatecuddles wrote: »

He said following generation, not previous.

hit post before i finished typing edited it there :pac:

Banjo String

crazyderk wrote: »

Oh someones gotten old!

Possibly.


I'm still in my early thirties tbh. I've been listening to rock from way before my time though since I was in my teens.

jaffacakesyum

God I hate people who do the whole "music is crap these days" hipster thing.

And this is coming from someone who's favourite bands are the oldies.

But there is plenty of good music out there but people will just go on about the One Direction types. Give me any decade and I'll find you crap cheesy chart music like that.

Cosmic Maybe

SamHall wrote: »

We need a new guitar based rock band revolution........

I'm convinced talent has dried up :mad:

Nothing wrong with a bit of cheese

Generally not into guitar based rock bands myself but I'm sure there's plenty out there. It just involves a bit of effort on your part to read up on them on music sites and blogs or have a root on the likes of Youtube or Spotify. The talent has definitely not dried up!!!

donegal.

i'd say you've got a bit older ? maybe late 30s ? if so then you are probably listening to too much daytime radio (which is utterly ****e).
The last 30 or 40 years has been full of manufactured pop groups, all pumping out the same cheesy trash from the eagles right up to calvin harris. The only thing thats changed is where you hear of new music. The brilliant music you listened to 20 years ago wasn't played on the radio either.

Banjo String

The brilliant music you listened to 20 years ago wasn't played on the radio either.

Actually, that's a more than fair point I suppose.

Celly Smunt

Here's an album to look forward to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc6zXSdYXm8

Alpha Dog 1

I think the real question is why do mainstream radio stations continue to play the same pop shiite?

Links234

Protip: if you think music is bad today, you're not looking hard enough

but here's some music I'm sure everyone'll hate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GclKDei5hHU

smash

Links234 wrote: »

but here's some music I'm sure everyone'll hate

Yep. That is absolute crap! :P

anncoates

When I was young, decent bands making it into the mainstream meant a lot more because it was so much harder to find alternative music back then.

Now, you can near-instantly find more new music than you could ever hope to listen to, so why bother if they get featured in the media or not?

That said, maybe I'm biased but the quality of mainstream pop music is definitely objectively worse than 20 years ago but overall, good music is made in any era.

Links234

smash wrote: »

Yep. That is absolute crap! :P

try this instead, might be a bit more palatable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHeRlFAAGs

hoodwinked

smash wrote: »

Yep. That is absolute crap! :P

i feared it would be worse tbh,.... Rebecca black's Friday on a monday is just... *shudder*

For Forks Sake

Links234 wrote: »

but here's some music I'm sure everyone'll hate

That would absolutely walk the Eurovision.

smash

Links234 wrote: »

try this instead, might be a bit more palatable

Already judged it based on the video. Sorry...

iDave

I'm in my 20s and think modern music is crap. My parents had it a lot better. Its annoying how I'm expected to like all the modern crap just because of my age.

Mr Benevolent

SamHall wrote: »

Today's music for the most part seems to be full of manufactured pop groups, all pumping out the same cheesy trash.


We need a new guitar based rock band revolution.

Can anyone recommend me a band that have emerged in the last few years to listen to?

I'm convinced talent has dried up :mad:

What age are you? I'm 33 and am still finding new stuff. Currently on dupstep, strangely good music. Saying that 'there's no good music any more' is a such a stereotypical cliche. You do realise that people have been saying that since 1300?

Grayson

hoodwinked wrote: »

Nah im a 90's teen, and i LOVE music from the 70's 80's.... two of the best decades out there for music...everything after is diamonds in the rough...

I was a 90's teen and i think the 80's and 90's were. 70's were good, but then there was disco. 90's was great. Loads of indi bands, grunge and a developing electronic scene. But there was plenty of crap too.

I can prove that with one line.

no no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no limits

Edit: I missed a no. And apologies for sticking that in your head for the rest of the day.

smash

Mr Benevolent wrote: »

Currently on dupstep, strangely good music.

Go home Mr Benevolent, you're drunk pill'd off your face!

Links234

smash wrote: »

Already judged it based on the video. Sorry...

give it a listen, they might surprise you.

purplepanda

Modern Rock guitar music has become largely pointless due to the current lack of traditional core blueprints that started original Rock & Roll in the past.

Rock & Roll without using blues, country, folk, jazz, R&B & Soul & many other traditional styles is losing the point. All great Rock artists had these influences in their music.

Add DJ's & Rap, Grunge & Cookie monster metal, drum machines & sequencers, cut & paste recording "techniques" sampling synth pop & there's the reason for the decline in modern "music".

Guitar, Bass , Organ / Piano & Drums used to be the foundation of many music genres, many, like modern forms of Soul & Reggae, and most pop & club music have totally abandoned instruments.

Musicians playing together was the cornerstone of great music for decades, nowadays that's been replaced by Simon Cowell & his evil product!! :mad:

A friend of mine said a while back, Black music has lost it's way, meanwhile White music has crawled up it's own backside!!!

smash

Links234 wrote: »

give it a listen, they might surprise you.

To me it just sounds like the same regurgitated stuff from most rock bands these days. It all just sounds the same.

Celly Smunt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiC__IjCa2s

Legs.Eleven

i think there's a load of great new music around. I don't own a radio and manage to avoid all ****e except when clothes shopping when it's shoved into my ears forcefully. Loadsa great stuff being made outside English-speaking countries too. Every generation has said what you said. Yes there is a load of garbage knocking about these days but there was in my day too. You have to know where to look and ask the right people for recommendations and your away.

Links234

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emrBZZtGFgI

Mr Benevolent

smash wrote: »

To me it just sounds like the same regurgitated stuff from most rock bands these days. It all just sounds the same.

Well of course it does, every rock song (in fact every Western song) is based on the same overused chord progression and scale. If you want something different, listen to Medieval music, notably 'Ma Joie me Semont' and 'Je Languis D'amer Mort'. Great songs, but very different to our music.

That said, I like Lady Gaga and Katy Perry too.

NothingMan

iDave wrote: »

I'm in my 20s and think modern music is crap. My parents had it a lot better. Its annoying how I'm expected to like all the modern crap just because of my age.

No they didn't and no you're not.

I am also in my 20's and still find a few gems amongst the crap in modern music but even leaving that aside most of the music I listen to is from the 90's and nobody expects me to like modern music just because I'm aive when it was released.

Looking at my iPod now and bands that are still releasing new music and I like. My favourite's Pearl Jam (still throwing out an album every once in a while), The Black Keys (great band and still gaining pace), Gogol Bordello, (never heard anything like them before and they're mad as a bag if badgers but still great), Newton Faulkney (great acoustic singer songwriter in the last while).

Now they're all personal preference and I'm sure most people here will disagree with some or all of my tastes but there's still a very eclectic sound out there to be enjoyed.

And honestly, when I am out in a pub or club, there is still the odd pop mega hit I don't mind bopping my sexy lil tush too either.

stateofflux

music ceased to be innovative in the mid 90's. Nearly everything i hear in indie, rock, metal, dance now is a poor watered down version of pre mid 90's stuff.

NothingMan

purplepanda wrote: »

Modern Rock guitar music has become largely pointless due to the current lack of traditional core blueprints that started original Rock & Roll in the past.

Rock & Roll without using blues, country, folk, jazz, R&B & Soul & many other traditional styles is losing the point. All great Rock artists had these influences in their music.

Add DJ's & Rap, Grunge & Cookie monster metal, drum machines & sequencers, cut & paste recording "techniques" sampling synth pop & there's the reason for the decline in modern "music".

Guitar, Bass , Organ / Piano & Drums used to be the foundation of many music genres, many, like modern forms of Soul & Reggae, and most pop & club music have totally abandoned instruments.

Musicians playing together was the cornerstone of great music for decades, nowadays that's been replaced by Simon Cowell & his evil product!! :mad:

A friend of mine said a while back, Black music has lost it's way, meanwhile White music has crawled up it's own backside!!!

I don't even know where to start, but this is all kinds of wrong. Music can be made from many instruments and media, including electronic and influences can come from anywhere and anything and that's what makes it so vastly varied and different to so many people.

seamus

stateofflux wrote: »

music ceased to be innovative in the mid 90's. Nearly everything i hear in indie, rock, metal, dance now is a poor watered down version of pre mid 90's stuff.

Ah, the "nothing is original" argument.

You're aware that people used to say that about the Beatles and the Stones?

con___manx1

i d jump in front of a train for you.
id take a bullet to the brain for you
the music of today is genius the lyrics just keep getting better and better ; )

NothingMan

stateofflux wrote: »

music ceased to be innovative in the mid 90's. Nearly everything i hear in indie, rock, metal, dance now is a poor watered down version of pre mid 90's stuff.

Which I'm sure people have said is watered down versions of pre 70's stuff etc... Music grows through influences and imitation. Any great musican learns their craft by learning songs by artists they grew up with so of course their style and sound will be heavily influenced by that but a bit of that person will add to it and make it unique.

I'm not saying there aren't a million examples where you're right but just because something sounds similar or is heavily influenced by something else doesn't mean it hasn't got merits in its own right.

IM0

seamus wrote: »

Worth noting that the big companies' profits have been consistently dropping year on year - singles sales are high, but album sales are dropping.

This is nothing to do with downloading, it's down to the simple fact that the people/children who buy pop music tend to buy singles, not albums. And singles aren't very profitable.

but everything to do with itunes

Amalgam

Music is what you make of it. There's still the same choices as before, just a greater need for a personal filter.

What grinds my gears is the pollution from the 'loudness' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war) mixing that creeps into not only music produced now, but.. more and more, pollutes re-releases of classic music from my youth.

It is painful to listen to CDs released at the moment, not because of the music, but because of the loudness levels. There just seems to be a lack of studio talent coupled with a light fingered touch on the mixing desk.