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is it just me, or is most modern music crap?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Links234 wrote: »
    try this instead, might be a bit more palatable

    Already judged it based on the video. Sorry...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    I'm in my 20s and think modern music is crap. My parents had it a lot better. Its annoying how I'm expected to like all the modern crap just because of my age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    SamHall wrote: »
    Today's music for the most part seems to be full of manufactured pop groups, all pumping out the same cheesy trash.


    We need a new guitar based rock band revolution.

    Can anyone recommend me a band that have emerged in the last few years to listen to?

    I'm convinced talent has dried up :mad:

    What age are you? I'm 33 and am still finding new stuff. Currently on dupstep, strangely good music. Saying that 'there's no good music any more' is a such a stereotypical cliche. You do realise that people have been saying that since 1300?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,333 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    Nah im a 90's teen, and i LOVE music from the 70's 80's.... two of the best decades out there for music...everything after is diamonds in the rough...

    I was a 90's teen and i think the 80's and 90's were. 70's were good, but then there was disco. 90's was great. Loads of indi bands, grunge and a developing electronic scene. But there was plenty of crap too.

    I can prove that with one line.

    no no, no no no no, no no no no, no no there's no limits

    Edit: I missed a no. And apologies for sticking that in your head for the rest of the day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Currently on dupstep, strangely good music.

    Go home Mr Benevolent, you're drunk pill'd off your face!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    smash wrote: »
    Already judged it based on the video. Sorry...
    give it a listen, they might surprise you. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭purplepanda


    Modern Rock guitar music has become largely pointless due to the current lack of traditional core blueprints that started original Rock & Roll in the past.

    Rock & Roll without using blues, country, folk, jazz, R&B & Soul & many other traditional styles is losing the point. All great Rock artists had these influences in their music.

    Add DJ's & Rap, Grunge & Cookie monster metal, drum machines & sequencers, cut & paste recording "techniques" sampling synth pop & there's the reason for the decline in modern "music".

    Guitar, Bass , Organ / Piano & Drums used to be the foundation of many music genres, many, like modern forms of Soul & Reggae, and most pop & club music have totally abandoned instruments.

    Musicians playing together was the cornerstone of great music for decades, nowadays that's been replaced by Simon Cowell & his evil product!! :mad:

    A friend of mine said a while back, Black music has lost it's way, meanwhile White music has crawled up it's own backside!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Links234 wrote: »
    give it a listen, they might surprise you. ;)

    To me it just sounds like the same regurgitated stuff from most rock bands these days. It all just sounds the same.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    i think there's a load of great new music around. I don't own a radio and manage to avoid all ****e except when clothes shopping when it's shoved into my ears forcefully. Loadsa great stuff being made outside English-speaking countries too. Every generation has said what you said. Yes there is a load of garbage knocking about these days but there was in my day too. You have to know where to look and ask the right people for recommendations and your away.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,433 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    smash wrote: »
    To me it just sounds like the same regurgitated stuff from most rock bands these days. It all just sounds the same.

    Well of course it does, every rock song (in fact every Western song) is based on the same overused chord progression and scale. If you want something different, listen to Medieval music, notably 'Ma Joie me Semont' and 'Je Languis D'amer Mort'. Great songs, but very different to our music.

    That said, I like Lady Gaga and Katy Perry too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    iDave wrote: »
    I'm in my 20s and think modern music is crap. My parents had it a lot better. Its annoying how I'm expected to like all the modern crap just because of my age.


    No they didn't and no you're not.

    I am also in my 20's and still find a few gems amongst the crap in modern music but even leaving that aside most of the music I listen to is from the 90's and nobody expects me to like modern music just because I'm aive when it was released.

    Looking at my iPod now and bands that are still releasing new music and I like. My favourite's Pearl Jam (still throwing out an album every once in a while), The Black Keys (great band and still gaining pace), Gogol Bordello, (never heard anything like them before and they're mad as a bag if badgers but still great), Newton Faulkney (great acoustic singer songwriter in the last while).

    Now they're all personal preference and I'm sure most people here will disagree with some or all of my tastes but there's still a very eclectic sound out there to be enjoyed.

    And honestly, when I am out in a pub or club, there is still the odd pop mega hit I don't mind bopping my sexy lil tush too either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭stateofflux


    music ceased to be innovative in the mid 90's. Nearly everything i hear in indie, rock, metal, dance now is a poor watered down version of pre mid 90's stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Modern Rock guitar music has become largely pointless due to the current lack of traditional core blueprints that started original Rock & Roll in the past.

    Rock & Roll without using blues, country, folk, jazz, R&B & Soul & many other traditional styles is losing the point. All great Rock artists had these influences in their music.

    Add DJ's & Rap, Grunge & Cookie monster metal, drum machines & sequencers, cut & paste recording "techniques" sampling synth pop & there's the reason for the decline in modern "music".

    Guitar, Bass , Organ / Piano & Drums used to be the foundation of many music genres, many, like modern forms of Soul & Reggae, and most pop & club music have totally abandoned instruments.

    Musicians playing together was the cornerstone of great music for decades, nowadays that's been replaced by Simon Cowell & his evil product!! :mad:

    A friend of mine said a while back, Black music has lost it's way, meanwhile White music has crawled up it's own backside!!!

    I don't even know where to start, but this is all kinds of wrong. Music can be made from many instruments and media, including electronic and influences can come from anywhere and anything and that's what makes it so vastly varied and different to so many people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    music ceased to be innovative in the mid 90's. Nearly everything i hear in indie, rock, metal, dance now is a poor watered down version of pre mid 90's stuff.
    Ah, the "nothing is original" argument.

    You're aware that people used to say that about the Beatles and the Stones?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    i d jump in front of a train for you.
    id take a bullet to the brain for you
    the music of today is genius the lyrics just keep getting better and better ; )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    music ceased to be innovative in the mid 90's. Nearly everything i hear in indie, rock, metal, dance now is a poor watered down version of pre mid 90's stuff.


    Which I'm sure people have said is watered down versions of pre 70's stuff etc... Music grows through influences and imitation. Any great musican learns their craft by learning songs by artists they grew up with so of course their style and sound will be heavily influenced by that but a bit of that person will add to it and make it unique.

    I'm not saying there aren't a million examples where you're right but just because something sounds similar or is heavily influenced by something else doesn't mean it hasn't got merits in its own right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    seamus wrote: »
    Worth noting that the big companies' profits have been consistently dropping year on year - singles sales are high, but album sales are dropping.

    This is nothing to do with downloading, it's down to the simple fact that the people/children who buy pop music tend to buy singles, not albums. And singles aren't very profitable.

    but everything to do with itunes ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭Amalgam


    Music is what you make of it. There's still the same choices as before, just a greater need for a personal filter.

    What grinds my gears is the pollution from the 'loudness' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war) mixing that creeps into not only music produced now, but.. more and more, pollutes re-releases of classic music from my youth.

    It is painful to listen to CDs released at the moment, not because of the music, but because of the loudness levels. There just seems to be a lack of studio talent coupled with a light fingered touch on the mixing desk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    i d jump in front of a train for you.
    id take a bullet to the brain for you
    the music of today is genius the lyrics just keep getting better and better ; )


    Oh yeah, I'll tell you something I think you'll understand
    When I say that something I want to hold your hand
    I want to hold your hand, I want to hold your hand
    Oh please say to me You'll let me be your man
    And please say to me You'll let me hold your hand

    Yeah, it use to be so insightful and deep too... :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭chakotha


    Tame Impala are good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    X factor for the blame.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I think people just like to sound cynical, as if saying all music's crap nowadays makes them sound mature or that they've listened to a lot of stuff, but it just comes off as hipster like and lazy. there's so much music out there, it's silly to write it all off. I'm never at a loss to find something new to listen to. I'm sure most people here would hate what I listen to, but that's not the point, 'cos it's out there if you want to look for something you'd like.

    listening to loads of Japanese metal bands at the moment, which I'm sure most people here would hate, but that's just something I love :D





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,636 ✭✭✭donegal.


    when the history of when good music turned ****e is written , there will simply be pre-pixies and post-pixies



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Talent and quality are no requirement for success. That was probably true in the past, but way more so nowadays. There are just so many cut n paste, vapid, autotuned kids, with absolutely nothing to say in the charts. They are the equivalent of Michael Bay blockbusters. Precisely honed to appeal to a certain demographic in order to maximise profits. They couldnt function for a second without their army of managers, PR people, songwriters etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Beat "music" is a passing fad. So called hipsters like The Beetles will never amount to anything. Perry Como is the way to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    You just have to look and you will find.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Everything went downhill after Mozart popped his clogs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭chris_ie


    I never really got this argument. Whether music is good or not depends on the individual. It's like anything, food or whatever. You don't complain about certain foods being terrible, you just buy/eat what you like.

    I'm not a big fan of the chart music around now but obviously there are many out there that get enjoyment from this music and class it as good music and thats fine. I just dont listen to it. Find a few bands you like. Look around, do a search online for "bands similar to band x" and see what you come up with. There are even apps that you choose a band and it lists another 10 that are similar, and can be branched out further.

    Can be rewarding finding a new band you havent heard of before.


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