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    #1532
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,158 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    There are no th sounds in that tongue twister ...

    Correct. Replace Ts with Hs


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    #1533
    Gamer Bhoy 89
    Registered Users Posts: 3,618 ✭✭✭Gamer Bhoy 89


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    "Welsh" is the standard pronunciation in the South-East (which, as it happens, is where the name most often occurs).

    And, arguably, it's more correct than "Walsh", since the name was originally applied to people who came over from Wales with the Norman settlement. It means Welsh.

    So it's not that the surname in question is mispronounced as "Welsh"; more that it's misspelled as "Walsh"!

    Well I guess I learn something new everyday don't I? :cool: Still learning


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    #1534
    invicta
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭invicta


    Walsh,Welch and Welsh are three different surnames.! So pronunciation should be as is.


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    #1535
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,331 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    invicta wrote: »
    Walsh,Welch and Welsh are three different surnames.! So pronunciation should be as is.
    English spelling notoriously has only a tenuous connection with pronunciation, and this is especially true when it comes to proper names of both people and places. The "correct" pronunciation of someone's name is the pronunciation used by that person and by their friends and family. I don't see that there can be any other criteria of correctness. Elvis Costello and John A. Costello pronounce their surnames differently. On what authority are you going to say that one pronunciation is "correct" and the other not? And which of them are you going to choose as correct?


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    #1536
    invicta
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭invicta


    Spot on!
    Gillian Welche(singer)
    Tommy Walsh(footballer)
    Trevor Welch(commentator)
    Three completely different names,where as Costello the same name!
    The problem is when Walsh's are pronounced Welsh's and visa-versa
    The original poster (peregrenus) stated that there was no such name as Walsh!!


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    #1537
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,331 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    invicta wrote: »
    Spot on!
    Gillian Welche(singer)
    Tommy Walsh(footballer)
    Trevor Welch(commentator)
    Three completely different names,where as Costello the same name!
    The problem is when Walsh's are called Welsh's and visa-versa
    The original poster (peregrenus)was stating that there was no such name as Walsh!!
    I was joking. The name "Walsh" certainly exists. The question is, what is the "correct" pronunciation of that name?

    My suggestion is that the "correct" pronunciation of anybody's name is the pronunciation that he uses, and that his family and friends use with reference to him. In the South-East of Ireland (where this surname originates, and is still most common) "Walsh" is routinely pronounced with a "well-" sound, not with a "wall-" sound. Elsewhere, the "wall-" pronunciation predominates.

    I think the analogy with "Costello" is exact; the same name, with the same spelling, is pronounced different with respect to different people. Neither pronunciation is, in the abstract, more "correct" than the other, though we could say that COSTello is wrong with respect to Elvis, and "CoSTELLo" is wrong with respect to John A.


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    #1538
    invicta
    Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭invicta


    This is getting confusing,
    but I believe we are both singing from the same hymn sheet!!!


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    #1539
    Just a little Samba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭Just a little Samba


    I pacifically axed you and your cousint not to be throwing sangwiches from that colyoom, I'm trying to enjoy my expresso, if you keep it up I'll leave both of you in the hostipal!


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    #1540
    hollster2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,199 ✭✭✭hollster2


    My old teacher used to say mohor vehecle (motor vehicle) was the most annoying phrase ever.


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    #1541
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,876 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It has come to a pretty pass when some people tell other people that they cannot pronounce their own name properly.

    If Gary Cahill wants to call himself Kay Hill why should anyone tell him he must call himself Ka Hill? Or Jamie Carragher or Liam Gallagher, or Elvis Costello or Ronnie Moran.


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    #1542
    GoodDryingDay
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭GoodDryingDay


    Lots in my house that are annoying for others
    Chimley instead of chimney
    Dunkey instead of donkey
    Pacific instead of specific
    Chinee instead of Chinese (takeaway)
    I say cement but some pronounce Siment


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    #1543
    Badly Drunk Boy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,537 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    It has come to a pretty pass when some people tell other people that they cannot pronounce their own name properly.

    If Gary Cahill wants to call himself Kay Hill why should anyone tell him he must call himself Ka Hill? Or Jamie Carragher or Liam Gallagher, or Elvis Costello or Ronnie Moran.
    That never stopped English commentators constantly calling Kevin Moran 'Kevin MorAN' or Ken Doherty 'Ken Docherty'.


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    #1544
    boardsuser1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    Haych or Aych

    Cahill being called Kay-hill

    Payet or Pie-et

    Depay or Dee-pie


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    #1545
    Gwynplaine
    Registered Users Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭Gwynplaine


    Millon and Billon.


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    #1546
    mattser
    Registered Users Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭mattser


    loose instead of lose.


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    #1547
    Caoimhgh1n
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,499 ✭✭✭✭Caoimhgh1n


    KC161 wrote: »
    Haych or Aych

    What do you say? Ash?


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    #1548
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Most people pronounce 'issue' as ish-u - but the correct pronunciation is 'iss-sue'. But I think it just sounds daft and refuse to say it that way.


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    #1549
    reason vs religion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭reason vs religion


    TerrorFirmer wrote: »
    Most people pronounce 'issue' as ish-u - but the correct pronunciation is 'iss-sue'. But I think it just sounds daft and refuse to say it that way.

    I don't think it is the case that one is more correct than the other, certainly not outside of England. Plus pronouncing it "iss-ue" locks you into pronouncing tissue as "tiss-ue". No thanks!


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    #1550
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Thailand with an audible H.
    Thai with an audible H.
    Thomas with an audible H.
    Both mispronounced as boat.
    Kilmacanogue turned into kilmechanic ...

    Westminster quite often ends up as West Minister :)


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    #1551
    lazeedaisy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭lazeedaisy


    Italian as eyetalian

    Drives me bonkers when my mum says it


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    #1552
    _Whimsical_
    Registered Users Posts: 7,951 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Pacific instead of specific.


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    #1553
    cbreeze
    Registered Users Posts: 867 ✭✭✭cbreeze


    heard two rte newsreaders pronouncing 'armistice' with the emphasis on the middle syllable so it came out as 'arMIStice' and one recently saying dilLIGently instead of DILigently - dunno, might be in the RTE pronunciation book


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    #1554
    El_Duderino 09
    Registered Users Posts: 20,158 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    cbreeze wrote:
    heard two rte newsreaders pronouncing 'armistice' with the emphasis on the middle syllable so it came out as 'arMIStice' and one recently saying dilLIGently instead of DILigently - dunno, might be in the RTE pronunciation book

    You mean 'are-TE'? I take it they have the correct pronunciation of these things. Doesn't mean I'm going to start saying 'sex-you-al' just because it's probably correct.


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    #1555
    EchoIndia
    Registered Users Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭EchoIndia


    On UK TV "sixth" is often pronounced "sicth" -what's that about??


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    #1556
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users Posts: 29,066 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    EchoIndia wrote: »
    On UK TV "sixth" is often pronounced "sicth" -what's that about??
    It's so common that I assume it must have some basis in "correct" pronunciation - but it drives me NUTS!


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    #1557
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,331 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    TerrorFirmer wrote: »
    Most people pronounce 'issue' as ish-u - but the correct pronunciation is 'iss-sue'. But I think it just sounds daft and refuse to say it that way.
    The Oxford English Dictionary records three pronunciations; "ish-oo", "ish-yew" and "iss-yew". I don't think you can say any of these is more correct than others.


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    #1558
    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    yes mute for moot (writing it is a billion times worse though!)


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    #1559
    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    The Oxford English Dictionary records three pronunciations; "ish-oo", "ish-yew" and "iss-yew". I don't think you can say any of these is more correct than others.

    BBC newsreader prononciation is best


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    #1560
    brooke 2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    tenant for tenet


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    #1561
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,465 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Anything in American English...


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