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An Seomra Caidrimh - Ullmhú don Scrúdú Béil

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    I always struggle answering this question: "Cad iad na caithimh aimsire atá agat?"... I feel like it is hard to get nice vocab and 6 good points in nd always end up bottling it and saying something basic like imrím sacar le mo chairde ó am go chéile agus tá sé ar intinn agam bheith i mo bhall den chlub leadóige aitúil théis na hardteiste. Anyone wanna try a sample answer? and pls correct any mistake I might have made just now


  • Registered Users Posts: 58 ✭✭SuperSayian


    I know it's not Munster exclusive but it comes from the Munster dialect/Munster Irish! :) I'm a native speaker and I'd never say anything else :P it's like "chím", not standardised Irish but it is a word :P I use muna and I wasn't penalised for it in my LC last year :) so anyone using it should be fine afaik, but I could be wrong, it's quite difficult for them to penalise a certain dialect e.g. Many native speakers would say "ar an bhord" instead of the caighdeanach "ar an mbord" therefore, especially in the oral, the dialect would nearly have to be accepted :) any examiners I've met have all accepted Munster Irish :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    I always struggle answering this question: "Cad iad na caithimh aimsire atá agat?"... I feel like it is hard to get nice vocab and 6 good points in nd always end up bottling it and saying something basic like imrím sacar le mo chairde ó am go chéile agus tá sé ar intinn agam bheith i mo bhall den chlub leadóige aitúil théis na hardteiste. Anyone wanna try a sample answer? and pls correct any mistake I might have made just now

    You don't need a long complicated answer for such an easy question like that! What you posted would be perfect. You're not expected to have a whole paragraph about your past times, really. If you say what you posted above, the examiner might say "Déan cur sios ar an bhfoireann is fearr leat" or something like that. You are just being asked about your past times so it can lead onto another question (linked with what you just said).


    Tá mo scrúdú béil thart anois :) Fuair mé 229/240 = 95% ! :eek:
    Bhí ionadh an domhain orm ach bhí mé lánsásta! Cheap mé go raibh sé an-deachair toradh cosúil le sin a fháil ach anois tuigeann mé go bhfuil sé easca marcanna a fháil! Níl mé foirfe in aon chor ach fós fuair mé an toradh seo. Bhí áthas an domhain ormsa anois :D

    My oral exam is finished now :) I got 229/240 = 95 ! :eek:
    I was shocked but extremely happy! I thought that it was very hard to get a result like that but now I understand that it is to get marks! I am not perfect at all and still I got this result. I am really happy now :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭John.Icy


    Bheul, Cheap mé go raibh caighdeán gaeilge maith agam, ach rinne mé an scrúdú béil agus fuair mé 22/40%. Bhí díoma orm! Cheap mé gur rinne mé scrúdú maith! Ach tá sé soléir nach raibh mé. Ar an lá, bhí me an-neirbhíseach agus mar gheall ar an gcúis seo rinne mé cupla botún dúr, ach bhí siad beag!(bhuel cheap mé!). Bhí ionadh an domhan orm nuair a chonaic mé mo torthaí. Maidir leis an comhra, bhí na marcanna uafasach! Níl mé líofa agus níl mé fiorfe, afach, ba mhaith liom a dheanamh nios fearr! An bhfuil aon comhairle agaibh??

    (sorry for any mistakes or lack of fadas!)

    Well, I thought I had a good standard, but I did an oral exam and I got 22/40%. I was dissapointed! I thought I did a good exam. But it's clear I didn't. On the day I was very nervous and because of this I made a few stupid mistakes, but they were small (well i thought). I was really suprised when I saw my results. Regarding the conversation, the marks were terrible. I'm not fluent and i'm not perfect, however, I want to do better! Do you have any adivce???


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    caithfidh tú pleanáil a dhéanamh don bhéaltriail. Ni gá roinnt mhór phrásaí a bheith ar eolas de ghlanmheabhar le bheith fírinneach ach do cheisteanna comónta ar nós "Cad ba mhaith leat a dhéanamh amach anseo?" ba chór go mbeidh freagra réidh agat and chleachtadh déanta. Ní gá ach cúpla seanfhocal freisin ach a dhéanamh cinnte go n-úsaideann tú iad!

    You must plan. Not learn phrases but know common vocab. Should prepare for common q's. Practice. Use a few proverbs.

    Ceartaigh mé le do thoil táim cinnte go bhfuil botúin déanta tríd síos mo fhreagra!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    John.Icy wrote: »
    Bheul, Cheap mé go raibh caighdeán gaeilge maith agam, ach rinne mé an scrúdú béil agus fuair mé 22/40%. Bhí díoma orm! Cheap mé go ndearna mé scrúdú maith! Ach tá sé soléir nach raibh mé. Ar an lá, bhí me an-neirbhíseach agus mar gheall ar an gcúis seo rinne mé cupla botún dúr, ach bhí siad beag!(bhuel cheap mé!). Bhí ionadh an domhan orm nuair a chonaic mé mo torthaí. Maidir leis an gcomhrá, bhí na marcanna uafasach! Níl mé líofa agus níl mé foirfe, afach, ba mhaith liom a dheanamh nios fearr! An bhfuil aon comhairle agaibh??


    Chonaic mé cúpla botúin, ach níl a fhios agam má tá mé ceart! Cár raibh na marcanna caillte? Gan dabht, tá air 5/5 agus 35/35 a fháil sa scrúdú béil. Marcanna easca. Dar liomsa, ná bí ag foghlaim míreanna fada de ghlanmheabhair le haghaidh an comhrá. Tá sé níos easca cúpla frásaí a fhoglaim agus iad a úsáid i gcomhrá. Tá gach scrúdaitheoir ceaptha a iarraidh ceist agat i ngach ceann de na príomh-aimsir, só, ní mór duit smaoineamh ar do fhreagraí roimh dul isteach ar an scrúdú. Úsáideann an modh coinnolach nó an saor bhriathar go minic mar is aoibheann leo iad. :P Le haghaidh na sraith pictiurí, ba chóir duit frásaí a fhoghlaim gur féidir a úsáid i bpictiúir go leor. Níl sé ro-deachair in aon chor. Ná bí néirbhíseach, tá na scrúdaitheoirí ann agus thúg sibh marcanna do go heasca! Tá siad ag iarraidh tú a dhéanamh go maith!

    I saw a few mistakes, but I don't know if I am right (with the corrections)! Where were the marks lost? Without doubt, you have to get 5/5 (Welcoming) and 35/35 (Poetry) in the oral. Easy marks. In my opinion, don't be learning long paragraphs off by heart for the conversation. It's easier to learn a few phrases and to use them in conversation. Every examiner will want to ask you a question in each of the main-tense(Past,Present,Future), so, you have to think about your answers (for those type of Q's, like What did you do last summer/What will you do next summer) before you go into the exam. Use the conditional tense or the saor bhriathar often because they love them. :P For the sraith pictures, you have to learn phrases that you could use in many picture. It's not too hard at all. Don't be nervous, the examiners are there to give you marks easily! They want you to do well!

    (I'm sure there are MANY mistakes in my Irish! :pac:)

    I'll just say this 'as Bearla'! Before going into your oral, tell yourself "I can do this, I've learned it all." Make yourself seem confident (even if you're not). I had my mock oral the other day and this worked great. Make sure to remind yourself "This is only a conversation". That's it. Just a basic conversation in Irish - How hard can it be? Self-confidence plays a huge role in the Irish oral. If you have studied for the oral well you should feel confident that you will do well, and that you have a lot of work done for it. Nerves are normal going into the exam, but after the reading of the poetry they usually disappear. You really need to keep telling yourself that you are prepared and that you will do well. If the examiner asks you a question you've never prepared or thought of before, just give a one line answer maybe and then go straight into another topic.

    For example, in my oral I mentioned that I went to a Snow Patrol concert last summer. Her next question was something like "It's said that there are a lot of drugs and alcohol at concerts, what do you think?". That was a question I hadn't prepared at all, but I had a basic idea and a couple of phrases that I could use for the problem of drugs in Ireland. I didn't panic which helped me greatly to make up an answer on the spot. My reply was
    Bhuel, ní bhfaca mé aon rud cosúil le sin, ach tá a fhios agam go bhfuil fadhb na ndrugaí an-mhór sa lá atá ann inniu in Eireann! ....(mentioned 2 lines on the problems of drugs in Ireland and who I blame)

    The examiner doesn't mind if you turn the question completely around at all, just as long as you're staying relatively on topic to the question (Topic of drugs/alcohol in this case). Again, I re-iterate the point that you shouldn't learn big blocks of paragraphs for the comhrá! You could maybe learn off answers for What you did last summer/ What you will do next summer/ What do you do every weekend or whatever, but for specific questions on problems in today's society, or even your family I wouldn't learn them off-by-heart. If you learn them by heart, in the oral exam all you'll be thinking of is "Oh what was the line after that?!" and then you'll blank out. You have less to worry about if you don't learn it off. But saying that, you must read your answer a couple of times and understand what you will say in the exam. It doesn't need any particular answer. If you're an honours student you should be able to make up an answer on your family anyways! Btw, you don't need long answers or complicated Irish, at all. The emphasis is put on if you can have a conversation in Irish, or not. If you can, and you can do it at great ease, you'll score highly. Even if you have 10 conditional tense verbs but can't master some of the basic questions you are being asked you won't score as well. Saying that, I would use 1 or 2 conditional tense verbs in your answer to stand out, and to ensure you won't be asked a question specific to it which can be quite tricky.

    You still have another 2/3 weeks (I'm not sure!) so you have a while let. Just keep looking over your notes and get used to questions on topics you could be asked and learn a few couple of phrases you could use on a few topics. For example, I learned "Tá an fhadhb imithe ó smacht! - The problem is gone out of control". That is a perfect line to use for any social problem you are asked to talk about. All you have to do is add 2 or 3 lines onto that and there's your answer!

    Just remember, tell yourself that you're confident that you'll do well. At the end of the day, it's only a conversation! :D

    (sorry for the long post, I got a little carried away!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    Bhuel, béimíd ar ais go scoil amárach! An mbeidh sibh ag stáidéir na habhair go léir atá agaibh nó ag díriú ar an scrúdú béil? Ceapaim go mbeidh mé ag caitheadh na deireadh seachtaine seo chugainn ag cleachtadh an Gaeilge ach níl an am agam ag an dtaca seo chun chluas bhodhar a thabhairt de na habhair eile! Ní féidir liom a chreid conas tapa atá na scrúidaithe ag teacht! Cá ndeachaigh an t-am? :(

    Well, we're back to school tomorrow! Will ye be studying all your subjects or focusing on the oral exam? I think I will spend the weekend practicing Irish but I don't have the time now to ignore my other subjects! I can't believe how fast the exams are coming. Where has the time gone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    Oh, rud eile! Bhí brionglóid as Gaeilge agam aréir.. bhí sé an aisteach! Bhí mé ag caint as Gaeilge I mo bhrionglóid agus d'aimsigh mé focal nach raibh ar eolas agam as Gaeilge agus fuair mé mo fhóclóir níos luaithe chun mo fhiosracht a shásamh!

    Oh, another thing. I have a dream in Irish last night.. it was very strange! I was talking in Irish in my dream and I found a word that I did not know it in Irish and I got my dictionary earlier to satisfy my curiosity! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    Ceist agam. Conas a deirtear "in the world" as GHaeilge. Na daoine go léir ar domhan no ar domhain no ar an domhan? no cibbé rud?


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    0mega wrote: »
    Bhuel, béimíd ar ais go scoil amárach! An mbeidh sibh ag stáidéir na habhair go léir atá agaibh nó ag díriú ar an scrúdú béil? Ceapaim go mbeidh mé ag caitheadh na deireadh seachtaine seo chugainn ag cleachtadh an Gaeilge ach níl an am agam ag an dtaca seo chun chluas bhodhar a thabhairt de na habhair eile! Ní féidir liom a chreid conas tapa atá na scrúidaithe ag teacht! Cá ndeachaigh an t-am? :(

    Well, we're back to school tomorrow! Will ye be studying all your subjects or focusing on the oral exam? I think I will spend the weekend practicing Irish but I don't have the time now to ignore my other subjects! I can't believe how fast the exams are coming. Where has the time gone?

    Beidh mé ag díriú ar an scrúdú béil, ceapaim. Ni dhéarna mé a lán in aon chor i rith na saoire :( .. An bhfuil tú ag déanamh Fraincis nó Gearmáinís? Sea, d'imigh an t-ám ro-tapa!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    Ceist agam. Conas a deirtear "in the world" as GHaeilge. Na daoine go léir ar domhan no ar domhain no ar an domhan? no cibbé rud?

    B'fhéidir "Daoine an domhain - People of the world" ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    ray2012 wrote: »
    B'fhéidir "Daoine an domhain - People of the world" ?

    Sin níos fear sea, ach go ghinearálta, an ndeirfeá, "an rud is fearr ar domhan" nó Conas a litrítear and píosa deireanach?


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    ray2012 wrote: »
    Beidh mé ag díriú ar an scrúdú béil, ceapaim. Ni dhéarna mé a lán in aon chor i rith na saoire :( .. An bhfuil tú ag déanamh Fraincis nó Gearmáinís? Sea, d'imigh an t-ám ro-tapa!

    Níl, tá Spainnis idir lámha agam, ach tá an móramh de mo bhliain ag déanamh Fraincis nó Gearmáinís. Níl ach scór amháin I mo rang Spainnis ach níl clú da laghad agam cén fáth, deirtear go bhfuil Spainnis I bhfad níos éasca agus tá sé labhartha ar fud an domhain. :confused:

    Ní dhearna mé an iomarca chomh maith.. bhí pleain iontacha agam ag an tús ach faraor géar, níor d'fhorbair siad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    Sin níos fear sea, ach go ghinearálta, an ndeirfeá, "an rud is fearr ar domhan" nó Conas a litrítear and píosa deireanach?

    Déarfainn "An rud is fearr liom ar an domhan" ach níl mé cinnte ar chor ar bith.

    I would say ''An rud is fearr liom ar an domhan'' but I'm not sure at all.
    0mega wrote: »
    Níl, tá Spainnis idir lámha agam, ach tá an móramh de mo bhliain ag déanamh Fraincis nó Gearmáinís. Níl ach scór amháin I mo rang Spainnis ach níl clú da laghad agam cén fáth, deirtear go bhfuil Spainnis I bhfad níos éasca agus tá sé labhartha ar fud an domhain. :confused:

    Ní dhearna mé an iomarca chomh maith.. bhí pleain iontacha agam ag an tús ach faraor géar, níor d'fhorbair siad.

    Sea táim ag déanamh Fraincis ach an bhlian seo chugainn ba mhaith liom stáidear a dhéanamh ar Spáinnis :) Cosúil le mise! Ní dhéanann mé m'obair bhaile go léir freisin, níl an t-am agamsa. :confused: :P

    Cathain a bheidh tu do scrúdú béil i Spáinnis? Cén dáta?

    Yeah, I'm doing French but next year I would like to study Spanish (as I'll be doing Applied Languages!) :) Like me! I am not doing all my homework also, I don't have the time. :confused: :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    ray2012 wrote: »
    Déarfainn "An rud is fearr liom ar an domhan" ach níl mé cinnte ar chor ar bith.

    I would say ''An rud is fearr liom ar an domhan'' but I'm not sure at all.



    Sea táim ag déanamh Fraincis ach an bhlian seo chugainn ba mhaith liom stáidear a dhéanamh ar Spáinnis :) Cosúil le mise! Ní dhéanann mé m'obair bhaile go léir freisin, níl an t-am agamsa. :confused: :P

    Cathain a bheidh tu do scrúdú béil i Spáinnis? Cén dáta?

    Yeah, I'm doing French but next year I would like to study Spanish (as I'll be doing Applied Languages!) :) Like me! I am not doing all my homework also, I don't have the time. :confused: :P

    Go hiontach! Bheadh sé an suimiuil cinnte. Beidh sé agam an seachtain ar ball den scrúdú Gaeilge! Ar an Luan, is dócha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    0mega wrote: »
    Go hiontach! Bheadh sé an suimiuil cinnte. Beidh sé agam an seachtain ar ball den scrúdú Gaeilge! Ar an Luan, is dócha.

    Ah cosuil le mise le Fraincis! Go n-eirí an t-adh leatsa! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    An bhfuil an scrúdú béil don fraincis roimh an scrúdú béil don Ghaeilge do chuile dhalta? Agus an mbeidh siad ar seachtaine difriúla do gach uile dhalta nó an bhfuil a fhois againn fós?


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    An bhfuil an scrúdú béil don fraincis roimh an scrúdú béil don Ghaeilge do chuile dhalta? Agus an mbeidh siad ar seachtaine difriúla do gach uile dhalta nó an bhfuil a fhois againn fós?

    Sea tá sé roimh i mo scoil, ach mar shampla i mBAC (ceapaim), tá Gaeilge roimh Fraincis/Gearmánais. Tá sé difriúil i ngach scoil, creidim!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    B'fhearr liom fraincis a dhéanamh ar dtús ceapaim, ach níos tabhactaí I mo thuairim ná an méid ama atá idir an dá scrúdú!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭CookieMonster.x


    Tá bron orm nar scriobh me bios luaithe! An bhfuil a fhios ag einne cad e an ghaeilge ar debs? Scriobhfaidh me anocht!
    Sorry I didn't write again sooner. Does anyone know what the Irish for debs is?Edit: an bhfuil a fhios ag einne an ga duinn ainmneacha d'aiteanna agus rud mar sin a aistriu o gaeilge? Mar shampla ba mhaith liom a rá go ndeachaidh me o Londain and go bhfaca me an London Eye. An ga Dom e a aistriu?
    Do I have to translate the London Eye into Irish?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭Leaving Cert Student


    Níl clú agam is dócha go dtugtar na debs orthu ach le bheith fíreannach nílim róchinnte.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭kevin12345


    Cad é ar bhealach maith a rá "I disagree with that. I think people should have a choice" nuair a tá mé ag caint faoi na hIdirbhliana a bheith éigeantach? Go raibh maith agat. :)

    What is a good way to say "I disagree with that. I think people should have a choice" when I am talking about Transition year being compulsory. Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 141 ✭✭HPMS


    kevin12345 wrote: »
    Cad é ar bhealach maith a rá "I disagree with that. I think people should have a choice" nuair a tá mé ag caint faoi na hIdirbhliana a bheith éigeantach? Go raibh maith agat. :)

    What is a good way to say "I disagree with that. I think people should have a choice" when I am talking about Transition year being compulsory. Thanks.

    Déarfainn "Ní aontaím le sin in aon chor! I mo thuairim, ba cheart do dhaoine rogha a bheith acu."

    That could be horribly wrong but I think it's okay! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 893 ✭✭✭ray2012


    Do I have to translate the London Eye into Irish?

    No way, you wouldn't have to. :p Dearfainn an Londain Eye.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 Emmmafie


    Bhí gliondar croí agam nuair a bhunaigh mé an cómhra sin! Tá sé an uaisaideach ar fád!
    An bhfuil aithneas ag aon duine conas `fingers crossed` a rà?
    Go raibh míle ☺


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭BrownBear11


    Ceard é an plean as seo amach daoibh? An mbeidh sibh ag díriú bhúr gcuid ama iomlán ar an mbealtriall nó an bhfuil sibh fós ag lean ar aghaidh lena habhair eile? I mo chás, ceapaim go chuirfidh mé an cuid is mo de m'ám isteach sa Ghaeilge. Tá sé ro-thabhactach chun aon rud eile a dhéanamh i mo bharúil, nach bhfuil? Is marc ollmhór é 40%

    What's the plan from here on for ye? Will you be focusing your time completely on the oral or are you still carrying on with other subjects? I think I'll put all my time into the Irish. It's too important to being doing otherwise, I think, is it not? 40% is massive like :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    Ceard é an plean as seo amach daoibh? An mbeidh sibh ag díriú bhúr gcuid ama iomlán ar an mbealtriall nó an bhfuil sibh fós ag lean ar aghaidh lena habhair eile? I mo chás, ceapaim go chuirfidh mé an cuid is mo de m'ám isteach sa Ghaeilge. Tá sé ro-thabhactach chun aon rud eile a dhéanamh i mo bharúil, nach bhfuil? Is marc ollmhór é 40%

    What's the plan from here on for ye? Will you be focusing your time completely on the oral or are you still carrying on with other subjects? I think I'll put all my time into the Irish. It's too important to being doing otherwise, I think, is it not? 40% is massive like :eek:

    Caithfidh mé a adhmail, níl mé ag déanamh a lán ag an dtaca seo. Ta plean agam cúig sraith pictiur a fhoghlaim gach oiche agus nathanna cainte. Ag an deireadh seachtaine, déanfaidh mé an móramh den obair!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭BrownBear11


    0mega wrote: »
    Caithfidh mé a adhmail, níl mé ag déanamh a lán ag an dtaca seo. Ta plean agam cúig sraith pictiur a fhoghlaim gach oiche agus nathanna cainte. Ag an deireadh seachtaine, déanfaidh mé an móramh den obair!

    An bhfuil do bhealtriall an seacthain seo chugainn? Tá píosa beagín am agamsa fós mar níl mo cheann ar siúl le haghaidh cúpla seachtaine ach ag an am ceanna tá dóthain oibre agam á dhéanamh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭BrownBear11


    Ceist saghas aisteach agamsa ach pé scéal é :p

    An bhfuil sampla ag éinne de bhealtriall leis an gcaighdean atá riachtanach chun an grád A1 a bhaint amach on mbéaltriall? Ba mhaith liom a fhéiceál comh ard is atá an caighdean tríd amach an tír (na tíre?)


    Strange question but anyway

    Does anyone have a sample of an oral exam of the standard required to get an A1 in the oral? I'd just like to see how high the standard is throughout the country


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  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭0mega


    Bhuel, go n-éirí an t-ádh dearg libh! Beidh an scrúdú agam amárach ag a haon a chloig, rá paidir dom! :pac:

    An bhfuil aon ceisteanna ag éinne roimh an lá mór amárach? :)


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