SDLP call for the release of Marian Price.

SoulandForm · 31-03-2013 2:11pm #1

http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0330/379102-sdlp-calls-for-marian-price-release/

I for one am very glad that they have done this and hope that they will continue to speak out against such grave actions of political policing. I also hope they speak out against the gag order on Willie Frazer even though he doesnt have a lot of sensible things to say.

GRMA · 31-03-2013 2:24pm

Only a matter of time before she is released I hope, there is a political consensus across the island that she should be released (apart from the unionist parties)

SoulandForm · 31-03-2013 2:44pm

GRMA wrote: »

Only a matter of time before she is released I hope, there is a political consensus across the island that she should be released (apart from the unionist parties)

I think she should be released however I dont see it happening.

http://thepensivequill.am/2013/03/another-one-interned-by-decree.html

The UK government wants Northern Ireland to be quite and act as normally as possible- and is prepared to come down hard to make it do so.

Phoebas · 31-03-2013 2:53pm

GRMA wrote: »

Only a matter of time before she is released I hope, there is a political consensus across the island that she should be released (apart from the unionist parties)

I haven't seen this political consensus at all. What are you referring to?

GRMA · 31-03-2013 4:15pm

Phoebas wrote: »

I haven't seen this political consensus at all. What are you referring to?

There is cross party support for her release - look at the unanimous motions calling for her release by many county councils across the country

Fianna Fáil, Labour and even Fine Gael want her released. As do (as far as I can see) all of the opposition in the Dáil

Sierra Oscar · 31-03-2013 5:27pm

GRMA wrote: »

There is cross party support for her release - look at the unanimous motions calling for her release by many county councils across the country

Fianna Fáil, Labour and even Fine Gael want her released. As do (as far as I can see) all of the opposition in the Dáil

Indeed, there does seem to be cross party support for her release - especially amongst opposition TD's throughout the political divide.

hare · 31-03-2013 5:42pm

SF could make a start by leaving their friends on the policeing board.

Yitzhak Rabin · 31-03-2013 6:11pm

Hope she doesn't get out. Don't have any sympathy for murders like her.

SoulandForm · 31-03-2013 6:27pm

Yitzhak Rabin wrote: »

Hope she doesn't get out. Don't have any sympathy for murders like her.

Well the British state themselves released her before the troubles ended on compassionate grounds and her being put back into prison was clearly down to her political views. Also I think dont think she is the type of person who would have been involved in hurting people if it hadnt been for the situation that existed in Belfast in the late 60s/early 70s. Its clear that she is in jail not because of the Old Bailey bombing but because of her opposition to the GFA and to scare others away from public opposition to it. She is also now at this stage a frail and ill woman. Do you agree with the gag order on Willie Frazer and Jamie Bryson also?

junder · 31-03-2013 8:29pm

SoulandForm wrote: »

Well the British state themselves released her before the troubles ended on compassionate grounds and her being put back into prison was clearly down to her political views. Also I think dont think she is the type of person who would have been involved in hurting people if it hadnt been for the situation that existed in Belfast in the late 60s/early 70s. Its clear that she is in jail not because of the Old Bailey bombing but because of her opposition to the GFA and to scare others away from public opposition to it. She is also now at this stage a frail and ill woman. Do you agree with the gag order on Willie Frazer and Jamie Bryson also?

She is in prison for breaching her licence conditions. It's odd that every republican that has been arrested recently suddenly develops fatal illnesses

hatrickpatrick · 31-03-2013 8:48pm

It seems very simple to me, if she's suspected of doing something she should be charged with an offense and tried before a jury of her peers.
What legal loophole is being used to imprison someone without trial? Isn't internment supposed to be a thing of the past?

SoulandForm · 31-03-2013 8:56pm

junder wrote: »

She is in prison for breaching her licence conditions. It's odd that every republican that has been arrested recently suddenly develops fatal illnesses

She wasnt released under the GFA. She made pro-PIRA statements after her release when their campaign was going on.

Fratton Fred · 31-03-2013 8:57pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

It seems very simple to me, if she's suspected of doing something she should be charged with an offense and tried before a jury of her peers.
What legal loophole is being used to imprison someone without trial? Isn't internment supposed to be a thing of the past?

She was released under license. She broke the conditions of that license and had her release revoked.

getzls · 31-03-2013 9:05pm

junder wrote: »

She is in prison for breaching her licence conditions. It's odd that every republican that has been arrested recently suddenly develops fatal illnesses

Indeed!

Though was she not released 30 years ago because she was at deaths door?

SoulandForm · 31-03-2013 9:30pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

She was released under license. She broke the conditions of that license and had her release revoked.

Yet the British state has lost the terms of the original terms of the release.

Phoebas · 31-03-2013 11:35pm

GRMA wrote: »

There is cross party support for her release - look at the unanimous motions calling for her release by many county councils across the country

Fianna Fáil, Labour and even Fine Gael want her released. As do (as far as I can see) all of the opposition in the Dáil

Limited cross party support != political consensus.

Have any of the major parties passed motions at party conference/Ard Fheis ?

pablomakaveli · 31-03-2013 11:47pm

Which county councils have called for her release?

oscarBravo · 01-04-2013 1:31am

SoulandForm wrote: »

Also I think dont think she is the type of person who would have been involved in hurting people if it hadnt been for the situation that existed in Belfast in the late 60s/early 70s.

Yeah, every single pacifist in Belfast spontaneously became a homicidal maniac during that timeframe. I mean, it's not like they had any choice, right?

SoulandForm wrote: »

Yet the British state has lost the terms of the original terms of the release.

I'm sure Marian has a copy kicking about somewhere.

laoch na mona · 01-04-2013 10:36am

even the UN special rapporteur on health called for her release so I'm all for it
she has been tortured according to the UN definition of torture

ohh and she received a royal prerogative of mercy which is a full pardon

Phoebas · 01-04-2013 10:58am

laoch na mona wrote: »

even the UN special rapporteur on health called for her release so I'm all for it
she has been tortured according to the UN definition of torture

Do you have a link to any of this?

As I understand it, the Special Rapporteur said that solitary confinement could amount to torture.

laoch na mona wrote: »

ohh and she received a royal prerogative of mercy which is a full pardon

She was let out on licence and she broke the terms of her release.

SoulandForm · 01-04-2013 11:07am

Phoebas wrote: »

She was let out on licence and she broke the terms of her release.

She was released and we heard no more about her having to be politically silent until suddenly after years of her writing articles and voicing her opinion we are told that doing so was breaking the terms of her licence. But the British state has lost these terms that were never mentioned until her arrest and she denies ever existed- bit strange that.

Phoebas · 01-04-2013 11:11am

SoulandForm wrote: »

She was released and we heard no more about her having to be politically silent until suddenly after years of her writing articles and voicing her opinion we are told that doing so was breaking the terms of her licence. But the British state has lost these terms that were never mentioned until her arrest and she denies ever existed- bit strange that.

That being the case, a simple legal action should clear things up.

SoulandForm · 01-04-2013 11:13am

Phoebas wrote: »

That being the case, a simple legal action should clear things up.

We are talking about Northern Ireland. The fact that a simple legal action has not cleared things says it all really.

gallag · 01-04-2013 12:04pm

Hopefully the murderous wench never walks our streets again, to openly support the return to violence against the will of the people and being opposed the the democratic agreement which was good enough at the time to get her vile murdering self out of prision shows her character.

GRMA · 01-04-2013 12:55pm

gallag wrote: »

Hopefully the murderous wench never walks our streets again, to openly support the return to violence against the will of the people and being opposed the the democratic agreement which was good enough at the time to get her vile murdering self out of prision shows her character.

Try and learn the FACTS. She never supported the GFA and was not released because of it, she was released nearly two decades before it

RandomName2 · 01-04-2013 2:03pm

I would normally say "trial or release" but she seems to be back inside serving time for her original conviction (of bombing).

She should still have a date of release, of course. Mind you, that date of release might be quite down the line. Gerry Kelly got two life sentences for the same bombing... before making an armed escape from the Maze, becoming a terrorist in the Netherlands, arrested and extradited back to the UK and making it as a Sinn Fein MLA. :pac:

coffee_cake · 01-04-2013 3:21pm

garhjw, please read the charter before posting, particularly concerning the use of "scum"/"scumbags"

01-04-2013 3:27pm

gallag wrote: »

Hopefully the murderous wench never walks our streets again, to openly support the return to violence against the will of the people and being opposed the the democratic agreement which was good enough at the time to get her vile murdering self out of prision shows her character.

Amen.

Could you republicans not perhaps focus your energies on slightly more productive campaigns for the country? Or will you ever move past getting your criminal members out of jail as a primary objective?

guttenberg · 01-04-2013 3:37pm

gallag wrote: »

Hopefully the murderous wench never walks our streets again, to openly support the return to violence against the will of the people and being opposed the the democratic agreement which was good enough at the time to get her vile murdering self out of prision shows her character.

So intern her indefinitely because her politics are different to yours and mine? wasn't that tried before and failed to solve NI's problems?

.jacksparrow. · 01-04-2013 3:39pm

guttenberg wrote: »

So intern her indefinitely because her politics are different to yours and mine? wasn't that tried before and failed to solve NI's problems?

I'm sure gallag wishes the same on the thousands of loyalists who opposed the democratic vote over the flag issue.

gallag · 01-04-2013 3:43pm

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

I'm sure gallag wishes the same on the thousands of loyalists who opposed the democratic vote over the flag issue.

If they started bombing people over the flag issue then yes, why is all the attention on the small amount of flag protesters at the minute and no mention of the republican bombs going off or being found nearly weekly at the minute?

SDLP call for the release of Marian Price.

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