IWT seeks public support to ban hare coursing and foxhunting in Animal Welfare Act

Sparks

From thejournal.ie:

THE IRISH WILDLIFE Trust (IWT) has called on the public to help change the new Animal Health and Welfare Bill that will be debated in the Dáil on Wednesday. Independent TDs Maureen O’Sullivan and Clare Daly are set to challenge the bill and propose that exemptions for fox hunting and hare coursing be removed.

IWT today urged the public to contact their local TDs, asking them to support this proposal ahead of the debate.

...continued

And the usual fun is being had in the journal's comments section again.

aaakev

Some of the comments really crack me up, they are just so blinkered and have chosen to ignore the facts and figures linked.

yubabill1

aaakev wrote: »

Some of the comments really crack me up, they are just so blinkered and have chosen to ignore the facts and figures linked.

They would be funny if so many suckers didn't believe them.

I mean, if they can convincesome of the Cypriots that everything is fine with the money they have on deposit......

thelurcher

We can't lose when we have someone called 'Dick Power' as our spokesman.

Sparks

Bernie Wright had quite a pop there...

We pose the question-just how many depraved humans are walking the streets free from prosecution having mutilated, tortured and killed defenceless animals.
The RED FOX seems to be the latest main target as we hear sick thugs tortured and hanged yet another young fox from a tree directly opposite a busy bus stop in Cork.
...
Fox hunters ... will blood hounds on young fox cubs and dig out foxes for fun as killing wildlife is all they can understand
...
It is our moral duty to protect the weak from sociopaths and depraved individuals. Do you think animals care if those hurting them are doing so with a licence from the Department of Agriculture or not.
....continues

Cass

Is it gone or am i just not seeing it?

fathersymes

Yep, she must have deleted it unless the Journal moderated it?

John Fitzgerald is staying away, he must find comments about his history uncomfortable.

Sparks

I'd reported it as being a bit defamatory, I guess it was moderated away.

aaakev

Cass wrote: »

Is it gone or am i just not seeing it?

just spent the last few mins looking for it myself:P I wanted to ask if Bernie was qualified to class people as "phycopaths", Im guessing no....

fathersymes

Hijacking this too.

http://www.thejournal.ie/ispca-horse-treatment-equine-distress-845310-Mar2013/

Cass

The double standards is staggering.

We get (or more to the point Sparks get) lashed for using the word extremist when it's more than appropriate, yet they can openly call us nutters, etc. and only act when the point is pushed.


It's like having an anti as a hunting mod.

aaakev

fathersymes wrote: »

Hijacking this too.

http://www.thejournal.ie/ispca-horse-treatment-equine-distress-845310-Mar2013/

See how in only a few posts they managed to drag hunting into that. it has nothing to do with hunting, it wasn't even mentioned in the original article ffs!!

byhookorbycrook

They are urging all their supporters to se this site http://contact.ie/ to email all the tds in Ireland...just sayin'

snipe02

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

They are urging all their supporters to se this site http://contact.ie/ to email all the tds in Ireland...just sayin'

just used that site to email all tds in my area in support of all field sports

yubabill1

I remember a time when hunters worked hand-in-hand with IWT.

They have dirtied their bib IMHO.

I don't recommend any hunters work with them again.

yubabill1

snipe02 wrote: »

just used that site to email all tds in my area in support of all field sports

Just done the same.

homerhop

are the replies to bernie wright removed?

Hunterbiker

Re the comments. Make sure you have them listed by date and not popularity as I thought a couple of mine had gone until I realised.

fathersymes

John Fitzgerald has come out of cover here.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irish-wildlife-trust-urges-tds-to-support-animal-welfare-bill-589322.html

yubabill1

i cant comment because I dont use firefox or chrome.

j Fitzgerald says its not defamatory to comapare a legal "bloodsport" with an illegal one.

So that means its not defamatory to compare my driving with that of a drunk.

One thing Ireland is very strong on is your constitutional right to your good name.

fathersymes

What the f?

http://www.build.ie/national_news.asp?newsid=160517

Sparks

They're spreading that story around quite a bit...

fathersymes

fathersymes wrote: »

What the f?

http://www.build.ie/national_news.asp?newsid=160517

Actually that's just a feed on the build.ie site, for a moment I thought they had put it up themselves.

yubabill1

yubabill1 wrote: »

i cant comment because I dont use firefox or chrome.

j Fitzgerald says its not defamatory to comapare a legal "bloodsport" with an illegal one.

So that means its not defamatory to compare my driving with that of a drunk.

One thing Ireland is very strong on is your constitutional right to your good name.

I see J Fitzgerald tried to defend saying it it not defamatory to compare an illegal sport with a prohibited one.

He must think Clare daly has got something passed in the Dail?
:mad:
He has, in fact, been comparing illegal activities with legal ones.

homerhop

He didn't like my post at all, see it deleted

yubabill1

homerhop wrote: »

He didn't like my post at all, see it deleted

This one?

So John of the hunt sabs association. Are you still in contact with the group ALF? Would you like to tell the public about some of your so called associates and the illegal activities they have been involved in. I see there that you are friends with the woman spearheading the campaign against a school of 25 kids in England. So you like to associate with groups that send death threats to schools?

That Peasenhall protest is lowest of the low IMHO. No parent could condone this behaviour, unless suffering PTSD or just nuts.

Sparks

fathersymes wrote: »

John Fitzgerald has come out of cover here.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/irish-wildlife-trust-urges-tds-to-support-animal-welfare-bill-589322.html

Bernie Wright posting there now as well.

Sparks

Funny that after all the hullaballoo, when the report stage opened on the animal welfare bill today, this was the scene in the dail:



No sign of the opposition or the independents, just the Minister involved. They had to hold up for several minutes waiting for them.

homerhop

Sparks wrote: »

Funny that after all the hullaballoo, when the report stage opened on the animal welfare bill today, this was the scene in the dail:



No sign of the opposition or the independents, just the Minister involved. They had to hold up for several minutes waiting for them.

When will the outcome be made public?

Sparks

It all goes out in public live homer.
http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/watchlisten/live-flashplayer/daileireann/

Sparks

Interesting to hear the Minister speaking though when a ban on fur farming was called for - it boiled down to "it's not my cup of tea, but there's a long walk between there and banning something that people earn their living off, and it's not deliberately cruel, it's a farming practice".

It really did have the character of daddy sitting down and explaining how the world works to a child...

yubabill1

homerhop wrote: »

He didn't like my post at all, see it deleted

Ok my browser is letting me comment on and off- anyway, just been back to breakingnews.ie and I have never seen so many "this comment has been removed" quotes.

Warzone.

Sean Public keeping well clear of this one - descending into a joke.

ha ha.

homerhop

i see bernie wrights is gone and another one i put up replying to jf. he really doesnt like to be called out

yubabill1

One i just posted didn't get 5 mins when I mentioned JFs arrests.

yubabill1

No, watered-down version got even less time.
Mod is on turbo, must have the hots for jf.

homerhop

after putting in another reply there, wonder how long that will last

Rosahane

Comments aren't going straight up either, being moderated. My last response to John hasn't appeared and it's well over an hour, and its innocuous.
Methinks they run to the mods when the heat rises:D

yubabill1

Now all my comments have returned - mod must have done thier homework. And the comments were on topic - hare coursing and JF's numerous arrests for interfering with same.

homerhop

my original reply to bernie is still gone

Grizzly 45

Poor old John isnt doing well at all there tonight:p.Bernie has retired from the affray,and no others of the "overwhelming anti bloodsports people of Ireland ." [IOW their 40 or so hangers on] have come to their aid either...:D

yubabill1

I think we hit the JF magazine - his weak spot is intellectual pride.

He's withdrawn a misnomer he made "defend the defensible" when I pulled him up on it.

Sparks

I think perhaps easing up on the throttle there might be a good thing - that page as it stands is a neat and tidy summation of the worth of their position; at this point, were I them, I would be searching desperately for any excuse to yell defamation and pull the whole page...

Grizzly 45

Anyone around Dublin ,Kildare st 14:00 tomrrow?It would be great to actually get a pic of how many actually turn up for this demo??:p

richiedel123

I have been watching this goin on for the last while and I just wanna say Good work on the comments there lads. It was clear john and Bernie are full of it. Keep up the good work

fathersymes

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Anyone around Dublin ,Kildare st 14:00 tomrrow?It would be great to actually get a pic of how many actually turn up for this demo??:p

Yep, I was actually planning on making a little trip in, I'll get a few shots of them!

Rosahane

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Anyone around Dublin ,Kildare st 14:00 tomrrow?It would be great to actually get a pic of how many actually turn up for this demo??:p

I have an appointment in town and plan to call in on them as well. I'll bring the camera.

aaakev

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Anyone around Dublin ,Kildare st 14:00 tomrrow?It would be great to actually get a pic of how many actually turn up for this demo??:p

Iv a meeting in town this afternoon, ill tey get a pic with them :-)

Rosahane

It would be amusing if we were to line up across the road from them and photograph en masse.

I hope to do the innocent passerby bit first, if i can get away with it we might get a photo of some of them frothing at the mouth

aaakev

Meeting has been changed and now happening at my office :-( have my camo jacket with me and all and was gonna wear that...

Sparks

A shame A wide-angle photo showing the full size of the crowd (as opposed to a zoomed-in, cropped photo of a subset of the crowd) would make size estimation a lot easier....

Grizzly 45

Happy hunting and snapping lads those who go.:D