Trainspotting sequel

Brian?

Larry SR wrote: »

I was expecting way more from Sick Boy in the film, based on what his character was like in Porno.

Thought Begbie's character could have been a lot better too. Doesn't have the same menace he once did. I hope they never think of making the Blade Artist into a film as well.

Spud's book being chapters of the original Trainspotting was a superb touch.

There are rumours a film version of "Blade Artist" is being lined up. I wouldn't be surprised. Lets face it, most film adaptations of Welsh's books have been muck.

HamsterFace

jobless wrote: »

Soundtrack is a cracker.... maybe those complaining havent heard of Young Fathers, Wolf Alice... but they are worth checking out.

I don't think it matters a damn whether or not you have heard of any of the bands in the soundtrack, what matters is whether or not it made a significant contribution to the film.

For instance, my favourite soundtrack of recent years was from Drive and I don't think I know any of the artists on it.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. Sure, not a cultural icon like the first, but with enough nods to it to satisfy old timers like me. One or 2 quibbles, McGregor was the weak link in the acting for me, or maybe his character was not as scene stealing as the others, and Veronica got too much screen time and too central a role. And I still think one of the scenes deserved an Underworld track. But it flew by.

jobless

HamsterFace wrote: »

I don't think it matters a damn whether or not you have heard of any of the bands in the soundtrack, what matters is whether or not it made a significant contribution to the film.

For instance, my favourite soundtrack of recent years was from Drive and I don't think I know any of the artists on it.

My comment there was in reference to someone saying they'd never heard any of the tracks before.. I thought it was a really good soundtrack... Was never going to match the original one but for that movie it was a good attempt

jobless

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I thoroughly enjoyed it. Sure, not a cultural icon like the first, but with enough nods to it to satisfy old timers like me. One or 2 quibbles, McGregor was the weak link in the acting for me, or maybe his character was not as scene stealing as the others, and Veronica got too much screen time and too central a role. And I still think one of the scenes deserved an Underworld track. But it flew by.

There was an Underworld track in the shooting up scene... Thought it was really well placed

Santi101

Got to this today - found it very enjoyable. Agreed on Veronika getting too much air time but a satisfying pay off for the old fans I think.

johnpatrick81

I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Looking forward to watching it again, back to back.

One thing I wasn't sure of......did Mark end up back on the junk? The throw back at the end seemed to suggest that.

pilly

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

I thought it was absolutely fantastic. Looking forward to watching it again, back to back.

One thing I wasn't sure of......did Mark end up back on the junk? The throw back at the end seemed to suggest that.

I wanted to watch it again straight away as well as I didn't catch a lot of it.

errlloyd

pilly wrote: »

I wanted to watch it again straight away as well as I didn't catch a lot of it.

I went on Friday and Saturday just because of that. I don't think Mark goes back on the junk at the end, but it's open to interpretation.

pilly

errlloyd wrote: »

I went on Friday and Saturday just because of that. I don't think Mark goes back on the junk at the end, but it's open to interpretation.

Not sure where people are picking that up from? Must be something I missed? What suggested he went back on it?

errlloyd

pilly wrote: »

Not sure where people are picking that up from? Must be something I missed? What suggested he went back on it?

I guess he goes back into his own room, turns on the music, does the weird junky pose stretch thing and then the room flies away from him. It looks kinda like he's resigned himself to that life.

pilly

errlloyd wrote: »

I guess he goes back into his own room, turns on the music, does the weird junky pose stretch thing and then the room flies away from him. It looks kinda like he's resigned himself to that life.

Oh right, no I suppose I didn't think that deep into it. I suppose it is open to interpretation really.

Was the scene were the shot up real or fantasy?

errlloyd

pilly wrote: »

Was the scene were the shot up real or fantasy?

So if I remember correctly the scenes went something like this.

Renton, Simon and Spud head out to meadow and lay the flowers, Renton and Simon argue over who has the heavier conscience.

Then there is a flash back to the baby in Transpotting. Then the spoon, then Renton and Simon are doing heroin in Spuds apartment while he abstains. Then they're in the club (Radio Gaga). Then Renton bumps into Begby in the jacks and we have the chase.

I don't think it was fantasy, but I'm not as good with movie interpretation as others. The scene in the club definitely happened, Renton has bandages on for the rest of the film.

pilly

errlloyd wrote: »

So if I remember correctly the scenes went something like this.

Renton, Simon and Spud head out to meadow and lay the flowers, Renton and Simon argue over who has the heavier conscience.

Then there is a flash back to the baby in Transpotting. Then the spoon, then Renton and Simon are doing heroin in Spuds apartment while he abstains. Then they're in the club (Radio Gaga). Then Renton bumps into Begby in the jacks and we have the chase.

I don't think it was fantasy, but I'm not as good with movie interpretation as others. The scene in the club definitely happened, Renton has bandages on for the rest of the film.

No, me either. That's why I'm more confused now. That's why I'd love to see it again.

SpaceCowb0y

I thought it was brilliant, it was never going to be as good as the original but it definitely done a good job of bringing those characters back to the big screen even if it did deviate a good bit from the book 'Porno'.

Where was the porn film storyline with Juice Terry (would have loved to see this character brought to life)? Why was Diane barley involved and why did veronica get such a pivotal role in the whole thing?

The movie feels almost standalone rather than a true adaption but i still think it was great and in no way tarnishes the original like so many sequels wind up doing.

Most of the Welsh book adaptions have been pants (FILTH, Ecstasy and yes The Acid House) but Danny Boyle really captures that bleak sense of humour in the books perfectly.

I'd love to see himself and Welsh team up to make Glue, love that book!

smacl

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

I'd love to see himself and Welsh team up to make Glue, love that book!

My favourite of his books too, would make a fantastic movie.

Went to see T2 with my daughter and we both really enjoyed it. She loved the original, and I was half surprised she liked T2 as it was very middle aged by comparison. Had nothing to do with Porno, and looking at the credits I notice it was written by John Hodge and not Welsh. Not a patch on the original movie, but then what is?

goose2005

Deleted User wrote: »

"T2 - Trainspotting" sounds like it would have made for a really boring Terminator movie.

"I need your anorak, your binoculars and your notebook."

Gamb!t

Saw this over the weekend,thought it was poor for a sequel but if the first one hadnt been made I would have said it was a decent Danny Boyle movie.

errlloyd

errlloyd wrote: »

I went on Friday and Saturday just because of that. I don't think Mark goes back on the junk at the end, but it's open to interpretation.

I didn't get that at all, quite the opposite, when they took heroin in the films they usually just keeled over or sat, think his dancing around showed his ability to just listen and enjoy the song and not associate it with heroin and the craziness.

pumpkin4life

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

I thought it was brilliant, it was never going to be as good as the original but it definitely done a good job of bringing those characters back to the big screen even if it did deviate a good bit from the book 'Porno'.

Where was the porn film storyline with Juice Terry (would have loved to see this character brought to life)? Why was Diane barley involved and why did veronica get such a pivotal role in the whole thing?

The movie feels almost standalone rather than a true adaption but i still think it was great and in no way tarnishes the original like so many sequels wind up doing.

Most of the Welsh book adaptions have been pants (FILTH, Ecstasy and yes The Acid House) but Danny Boyle really captures that bleak sense of humour in the books perfectly.


I'd love to see himself and Welsh team up to make Glue, love that book!

I liked Filth. It's no classic sure; no Trainspotting (1 or 2 tbh) but its a tight little movie with a great turn by James Mcavoy.

I said this earlier in the thread as well: I would love to see a Marabou Stork Nightmares film. If it was in the hands of a skilled enough director it would be fùcking magic out. As a novel its the equal to Trainspotting.

Glue as well. Ouside of Renton and Strang, the old Juice Terry could be class in his own film as well.

Larry SR

Never say never but I really cant see Glue working as a film.

Agricola

Really enjoyed the unique feeling of revisiting characters, storylines and scenes from 20 years ago. If you're of a certain age you're going on this journey into the past with Renton too.

I'm not sure how they would have made a Trainspotting film without a big money scam thread, but I felt like it was unnecessary and contrived. Similarly Begbie playing the role of the Terminator. When Spud was locking the pub doors I was waiting for him to say
"Begbie can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead!"

I would have preferred a film sticking closer to the themes of loss, regret, etc

as when Renton goes home to his Dad and later meets Spud, who then goes onto try to chronicle the old days they all shared together. There were some nice moving moments which I think would strike a cord with anyone, like when Spud comes out of the gym and remembers Renton and he running from security guards as kids, or when he begins to stick photos up on the window and his face is laced with sadness and regret. Also of course, the scene on the mountain side where they remember Tommy

. I think the heart of the film is this kind of stuff and another film could have been made without the contrived scam.... but don't ask me what would give it direction.

Robineen

jobless wrote: »

I loved the nostalgia in the film but i can understand how younger people who werent around for the original might think it was overkill

I was around for the original and love it... I found the nostalgia too much in the sequel.

Looper007

Add me in on those who loved the film, sure it was always going to be impossible to top the first film, it was a game charger for British Cinema and probably the film Danny Boyle will be forever known for. But Boyle and Co gave us a very good sequel that doesn't put the characters or the first film to shame. It's got the feel of mature second album, that needs a few listens to really get it's genius instead of the blistering debut that gets you the first time you hear it.

It's definitely Ewen Bremner as Spud who's the heart and soul of this film, he walks away with the acting honours from this. Robert Carlyle also was fantastic and the film actually gives him a nice moment inside the characters horrible moments. I thought Ewan McGregor's Renton wasn't as interesting a character this time around as he was in the first film, but he's still great in this as was Johnny Lee Miller. I thought Anjela Nedyalkova was quite good as Veronika, she was easy on the eye too. Loved that Shirley Henderson and Kelly MacDonald got small cameos, but MacDonald's Diane felt she was just there for fan service.

I loved the bittersweet feel to it as well, just full of regret and disappointment. I didn't mind the nods back to the first film. The last few minutes had me sniffle a bit. Overall not going to top the first film but definitely holds it own.

BionicRasher

I am the same age as the lads in the movie so I can relate to it all perfectly. Hell I even got a tattoo in the months shortly after the original movie came out (my one and only tattoo!) ‘Born Slippy’ adorns my body!

I found it very nostalgic and a perfect round out to the original. Some of the storylines were unnecessary but the main thread was spot on with everyone trying to come to terms with their friendship status after 20 years and how Renton's betrayal has impacted all their lives.

I will have to see it again to see all the little bits and pieces I may have missed and catch some of the classic quotes but the one or two questions I have are around

the guys shooting up and the end scene with Renton in his bedroom. Are they really shooting up? Is Renton choosing life or about to fall back into his old habits portrayed by his junkie pose and arching his back as he did in Mother Superiors in the original movie?

Will we have another follow up in another 20 years to see

Begbie on the run again or to see how Sick Boy fairs in the pub business and how Spuds possible books are an international hit?????

The 2 hours flew by and although I wasn’t too enamoured by the soundtrack in the movie I have since listened to it a few times and its just as classic as the first soundtrack. It’s a real grower. However I won’t be repeating history to get a ‘Slow Slippy’ moniker on my body – then again you would never know!

benjamin d

Looper007 wrote: »

I thought Ewan McGregor's Renton wasn't as interesting a character this time around as he was in the first film

I felt like that was deliberate, that he moved on and had a different life but that he's fairly hollow despite it, which is partly why he's back home - to reconnect with the old him who had a distinct personality. The gym scene seemed to imply that I thought.

Eggonyerface

I'm just going to come out and say it, I was very disappointed, I thought it was going to be a let down until the glowing reviews came out and then I think I hyped it up in my head too much

m1r9h71

I was really looking forward to this as i thought it would be directly taken from the follow up book "Porno". When i found out that it was only loosely based on it i was less interested - however, the scene in the trailer where Spud falls backwards off a tower block on a chair was all the hook i needed! Same director, same cast what more can we ask? Other than...is it any good?

Wheeliebin30

One thing,

How did spud know begbie was coming for the two lads at the end in the pub at 12?

pumpkin4life

m1r9h71 wrote: »

I was really looking forward to this as i thought it would be directly taken from the follow up book "Porno". When i found out that it was only loosely based on it i was less interested - however, the scene in the trailer where Spud falls backwards off a tower block on a chair was all the hook i needed! Same director, same cast what more can we ask? Other than...is it any good?

It's good. Not a patch on the first one but a fine film all the same. A worthy sequel. Just don't expect Godfather II or anything.