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Polish and East Europeans would you do it again?

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    #152
    dizzywizlw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 584 ✭✭✭dizzywizlw


    IzzyWizzy wrote: »
    That's exactly what I'm talking about. Social welfare in Ireland is so excessively generous that people CHOOSE to be unemployed. As you say, you're only a little bit better off working. I can think of very few other countries in the world where this is the case.

    Well...when the are no jobs is it not a good thing? The alternative is even greater poverty and emigration.


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    #153
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,000 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Ranicand wrote: »
    That is the trouble these days.

    People will band around words like bigot and racist.


    The fact is when I was a child having a child while not being married was shocking murder was rare drugs where less prevalent.

    The everything goes culture has been a disaster.

    Child abuse and suicide were absolutely rampant and covered up too. Take off your rose tinted glasses.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #154
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 41,000 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Ranicand wrote: »

    Casual sex creates children that never get the change to grow up in a loving relationship.

    All Hollywood studios are Jewish owned and run.
    Hollywood movies are full of casual sex drug use and violence.

    These are the 2 silliest things on boards.ie that I have ever read

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #155
    Ruudi_Mentari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Ruudi_Mentari


    I hear we already have a higher percentage of immigrants here than even England, does and they've not even had the extended family over yet..

    Besides what is so alluring about a remix of Oops! I did it again.


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    #156
    IzzyWizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭IzzyWizzy


    dizzywizlw wrote: »
    Well...when the are no jobs is it not a good thing? The alternative is even greater poverty and emigration.

    I don't know, really. There's always the 'what if everyone decided to do that?' argument. A lot of the taxpayers are underemployed and doing work they don't like.


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    #157
    Sitec
    Registered Users Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Sitec


    Hilarious how off topic this thread has gone.

    Even the title shows us how ignorant and big headed us Irish are.


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    #158
    dizzywizlw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 584 ✭✭✭dizzywizlw


    IzzyWizzy wrote: »
    I don't know, really. There's always the 'what if everyone decided to do that?' argument. A lot of the taxpayers are underemployed and doing work they don't like.

    I suppose that's the tragedy of Ireland today then. A broken socialism and a broken capitalism.


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    #159
    keithclancy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,222 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Thread is stupid.

    May as well start a thread ..

    Dear Irish person, were you surprised when you went to the Netherlands and the Belastingdienst took half your sh1t in tax.

    Never mind the cost of living in Switzerland.

    If everyone is in the same boat then its the same deal.


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    #160
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    token101 wrote: »
    You'd get over for the women and the cheap beer though.

    Australia is OK. It's not the paradise that some people seem to think it is, it's OK. Emigration isn't really a solution to all your problems, it just solves some and brings a whole new set. I earn more than twice, what I'd probably get at home for my job and that's probably even in good times, it's Job Bridge now. I'd still take that though if I could get it in Ireland. Moving from Ireland to Australia is a lot different to moving from Poland to Ireland. You can go home every month to Poland if you really wanted and you don't have the uncertainty with visas, etc, that Irish over here have.

    -and in Australia, you can speak the same language.. that makes things easier too I think.


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    #161
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    IzzyWizzy wrote: »
    That's exactly what I'm talking about. Social welfare in Ireland is so excessively generous that people CHOOSE to be unemployed. As you say, you're only a little bit better off working. I can think of very few other countries in the world where this is the case.

    I know few (not foreigners) that decided to do both -taking social payments and working illegaly, but to my surprise they are not even ashamed to talk about it!


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    #162
    LuckyLloyd
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    not yet wrote: »
    I beg to differ, My own nephew has spent the last 12 years on the dole since turning 18. So all during the boom years when a deaf blind man could find work he sat on his arse, I personally know a handfull of people who have never worked,have no intention of working, and know every single payment they are entitled to.

    Your anecdotal evidence isn't really relevant, but I'd be happy to look at any respected study that backs up your claim.


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    #163
    Drakares
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    Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »
    If you think Eastern European people are just working in jobs in the service industry, you're sorely mistaken. There's loads of them in banks, in software companies, you name it. All doing very well for themselves.

    Working in banks and software companies is working in the service industry...


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    #164
    kevom
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    sorsha wrote: »
    I know few (not foreigners) that decided to do both -taking social payments and working illegaly, but to my surprise they are not even ashamed to talk about it!

    There is an absolute **** load of Irish people claiming their social welfare while working for cash in hand.


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    #165
    sorsha
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 86 ✭✭sorsha


    kevom wrote: »
    There is an absolute **** load of Irish people claiming their social welfare while working for cash in hand.

    I didn't know that and it is shocking to me, no sense of decency!


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    #166
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,381 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    kevom wrote: »
    There is an absolute **** load of Irish people claiming their social welfare while working for cash in hand.

    Anyone doing that should be reported.


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    #167
    tdv123
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Anyone doing that should be reported.

    No way, really? :eek:


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    #168
    not yet
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    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    Your anecdotal evidence isn't really relevant, but I'd be happy to look at any respected study that backs up your claim.

    Well it is relevant to me and dozens more friends and family that know people who have no interest in work. You need to take your head out of the sand if you believe people do not make a lifestyle choice to stay on benefits.


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    #169
    Nodin
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    not yet wrote: »
    Well it is relevant to me and dozens more friends and family that know people who have no interest in work. You need to take your head out of the sand if you believe people do not make a lifestyle choice to stay on benefits.


    ..some people....


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    #170
    not yet
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    Nodin wrote: »
    ..some people....

    Yeah....some people.


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