Polish and East Europeans would you do it again?

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 8:24pm #1

Unlike many Irish that have gone overseas people from the East of Europe have come to a country that has a different language.

Are service jobs in a depressed economy worth been away from your family and you native culture?

Would any people who have been here a number of years like to tell the board what their experience of working and living here has been like.

In particular I would like to hear what the perception of Ireland was vs the reality.

Also the cost of living here is very high I can only imagine this came as a shock to many?

Lastly was leaving home a worth it or just something that had to be done?

Edit I would also like to hear from Irish that have gone to Canada and Australia about their experience.

sorsha · 28-02-2013 8:35pm

Did you just read my thread?

Yes, despite all and horrible weather I would. Working here gave me independence and some financial freedom.
Imagine you earn 500€ per month and petrol price is the same as here -that's Poland.

Banjo String · 28-02-2013 8:37pm

Ranicand wrote: »

Edit I would also like to hear from Irish that have gone to Canada and Australia about their experience.

Nice countries, but their swan tasted like shït tbh.

sorsha · 28-02-2013 8:38pm

SamHall wrote: »

Nice countries, but their swan tasted like shït tbh.

Oh, you are so funny!

Micky Dolenz · 28-02-2013 8:39pm

OP, Irish people have moved to other places besides Canada and Australia.

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 8:39pm

sorsha wrote: »

Did you just read my thread?

Yes, despite all and horrible weather I would. Working here gave me independence and some financial freedom.
Imagine you earn 500€ per month and petrol price is the same as here -that's Poland.

Sorry I did not know there was another thread.

I have been to a couple of Eastern European countries however not Poland and the price of some of the branded clothing shocked me more expensive then here.

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 8:40pm

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

OP, Irish people have moved to other places besides Canada and Australia.

I know but they are the two places really in the spotlight these days.

sorsha · 28-02-2013 8:43pm

Ranicand wrote: »

Sorry I did not know there was another thread.

My thread is not exactly the same subject, but more about :
"service jobs in a depressed economy"- you can check my experience there

and still, I don't regret I came working here.

Chips Lovell · 28-02-2013 8:44pm

If you think Eastern European people are just working in jobs in the service industry, you're sorely mistaken. There's loads of them in banks, in software companies, you name it. All doing very well for themselves.

mewe · 28-02-2013 8:45pm

sorsha wrote: »

Oh, you are so funny!

Don't mind him-he's from cavan after all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8fITzlPgA0

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 8:45pm

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

If you think Eastern European people are just working in jobs in the service industry, you're sorely mistaken. There's loads of them in banks, in software companies, you name it. All doing very well for themselves.

Yes but the question of the thread was would you do it again I am pretty sure anybody working is a nice bank or software job would not be having any real regrets.

Truncheon Rouge · 28-02-2013 8:46pm

I am come.
I am see.
I am took their jaaabs.

My name is URL · 28-02-2013 8:56pm

Loads of threads about Eastern Europeans today... it's like being back in 2004

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 9:05pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Loads of threads about Eastern Europeans today... it's like being back in 2004

Unlike 2004 they are not fresh off the plane.

Those that could adapt have and those that could not have left.

Almost ten years later we are not talking about them we are asking them what they think.

Polish people that have stayed seem to have really fit into the Irish culture.

Many have gone into good jobs and many work in the service side of things.

It is that group I am asking do they regret leaving their family and culture?

Nine years ago many coming into the country could not really function in English roll on 2013 things are totally different.

ejmaztec · 28-02-2013 9:08pm

My name is URL wrote: »

Loads of threads about Eastern Europeans today... it's like being back in 2004

Iron Curtain threads tomorrow.

How they had to work down the uranium mines for 20 years to qualify for a Trabant and a 12" black and white tv.:(

Micky Dolenz · 28-02-2013 9:11pm

When I lived in Ireland I had a few Polish neighbours. It is a close knit community and if there were parties on, all the neighbours got invited. I grew to know these families quite well. One Polish boy was doing his leaving cert and was top of the class in Irish, he told me the second to top in Irish class was another Polish boy.

He has been in Ireland since he was 12 or 13 and speaks like a native, there is no way you could tell he was non-Irish. We had great craic over the Euro's. It was like we had two teams to support.

All the Polish people I know living in Ireland are happy to stay there as long as there is work.

dxhound2005 · 28-02-2013 9:22pm

Ranicand wrote: »

Unlike 2004 they are not fresh off the plane.

Those that could adapt have and those that could not have left.

Almost ten years later we are not talking about them we are asking them what they think.

Polish people that have stayed seem to have really fit into the Irish culture.

Many have gone into good jobs and many work in the service side of things.

It is that group I am asking do they regret leaving their family and culture?

Nine years ago many coming into the country could not really function in English roll on 2013 things are totally different.

A lot of them are probably fresh off the plane. There was a big increase between 2006 and 2011 and it could have continued last year.

http://cso.ie/en/newsandevents/pressreleases/2012pressreleases/pressreleasethisisireland-highlightsfromcensus2011part1/

Born abroad

The number of Irish residents who were born outside Ireland continues to increase and stood at 766,770 in 2011 an increase of 25 per cent on 2006, and accounting for 17 per cent of the population.

The groups which showed the largest increase were those already well established in Ireland. The fastest growing groups were Romanians (up 110%), Indians (up 91%), Polish (up 83%), Lithuanians (up 40%) and Latvians (up 43%).

Nodin · 28-02-2013 9:28pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

Iron Curtain threads tomorrow.

How they had to work down the uranium mines for 20 years to qualify for a Trabant and a 12" black and white tv.:(

And well for them that had a Uranium mine to work in.

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 9:28pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

A lot of them are probably fresh off the plane. There was a big increase between 2006 and 2011 and it could have continued last year.

http://cso.ie/en/newsandevents/pressreleases/2012pressreleases/pressreleasethisisireland-highlightsfromcensus2011part1/

Born abroad

The number of Irish residents who were born outside Ireland continues to increase and stood at 766,770 in 2011 an increase of 25 per cent on 2006, and accounting for 17 per cent of the population.

The groups which showed the largest increase were those already well established in Ireland. The fastest growing groups were Romanians (up 110%), Indians (up 91%), Polish (up 83%), Lithuanians (up 40%) and Latvians (up 43%).

I know it is not PC to say it but some groups will never fit in here.

Two places in your list come to mind.

strandroad · 28-02-2013 9:29pm

Ranicand wrote: »

Yes but the question of the thread was would you do it again I am pretty sure anybody working is a nice bank or software job would not be having any real regrets.

Well I certainly don't! I find Irish and Polish cultures fairly compatible. The Irish are more relaxed, the Polish more highly strung but also more efficient. If a Polish person learns to loosen up but remains motivated it's a great combination actually.

Nodin · 28-02-2013 9:29pm

Ranicand wrote: »

I know it is not PC to say it but some groups will never fit in here.

Two places in your list come to mind.

Go on then...spit it out.....

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 9:35pm

Nodin wrote: »

Go on then...spit it out.....

I will spit it out we should never accept beggars into the country nor should we accept large numbers of people from Alien cultures that will take over an area until everybody else moves out.

Places like Poland have a very similar culture to here when you strip away the language barrier places like Pakistan don't.

This was founded as a Christian state and if people don't want that they should not come here.

I don't really practice my religion but events like Christmas and Easter are part of our culture.

There is an old saying when in Rome do as the Romans do.

mikemac1 · 28-02-2013 9:36pm

Lots and lots of them in funds and in banking in Ireland

Decent jobs with a decent salary.
Well a couple could copple together a mortgage application with such a job anyway so it's decent imo

All have superb English, you won't get past a job interview without that. Or you end up in a low paid porter job in a hotel

Nodin · 28-02-2013 9:39pm

Ranicand wrote: »

I will spit it out we should never accept beggars into the country nor should we accept large numbers of people from Alien cultures that will take over an area until everybody else moves out.

Places like Poland have a very similar culture to here when you strip away the language barrier places like Pakistan don't.

Pakistan wasn't on the list. You said there were two countries - which ones are they?

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 9:41pm

Nodin wrote: »

Pakistan wasn't on the list. You said there were two countries - which ones are they?

Pakistan and India were the one country and they share a very similar culture.

They were separated by the British.

To this day they dispute the region of Kashmir.

To me Pakistan we always we part of India.

Pakistan is majority Muslim however.

Nodin · 28-02-2013 9:43pm

Ranicand wrote: »

Pakistan and India were the one country and they share a very similar culture.

They were separated by the British..

Not quite.

Ranicand wrote: »

To this day they dispute the region of Kashmir.

To me Pakistan we always we part of India.

Pakistan is majority Muslim however.

India is on the list, Pakistan isn't. Whats the other country?

keithb93 · 28-02-2013 9:45pm

Ranicand wrote: »

I will spit it out we should never accept beggars into the country nor should we accept large numbers of people from Alien cultures that will take over an area until everybody else moves out.

Places like Poland have a very similar culture to here when you strip away the language barrier places like Pakistan don't.

This was founded as a Christian state and if people don't want that they should not come here.

I don't really practice my religion but events like Christmas and Easter are part of our culture.

There is an old saying when in Rome do as the Romans do.

The sooner this country loses its Christian state status the better, and that doesn't mean losing Christmas and Easter.

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 9:46pm

Nodin wrote: »

Not quite.

India is on the list, Pakistan isn't. Whats the other country?

Romania and I make no bones about it.

Nodin · 28-02-2013 9:47pm

Ranicand wrote: »

Romania and I make no bones about it.

Really. And the problem with Romania and Romanians is....?

dxhound2005 · 28-02-2013 9:48pm

Ranicand wrote: »

Pakistan and India were the one country and they share a very similar culture.

They were separated by the British.

To this day they dispute the region of Kashmir.

To me Pakistan we always we part of India.

Pakistan is majority Muslim however.

British India also included Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. The impression I get from the UK is that Indians are regarded as hard working and interested in education and "bettering" themselves. Pakistanis do not have the same reputation.

Ranicand · 28-02-2013 9:49pm

keithb93 wrote: »

The sooner this country loses its Christian state status the better, and that doesn't mean losing Christmas and Easter.

What about moral values and not having loads of children by different fathers.

Casual sex porn and children with no respect for any kind of authority.

Polish and East Europeans would you do it again?

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