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The rescue I volunteer for has taken in dozens of Coursing hounds in the last couple of months from this years batch, not to mention the dozens more from racing. There are a few good trainers that will hand over the hounds that do not make the cut or that do not earn them any money. Some are brought to us by folks whom have found them dumped in the country or cities. Some we are called out to that can barely lift their heads for having been abused or out in the cold too long without shelter or food. However, we almost never see young pups that haven't made the grade at all, and they often just cull/kill the wounded. Ireland is now one of the top, if not the top producers of Greyhounds in the world. Say what you want about the sport - it is a blood sport, and the hounds suffer horrendously for it. I see it every day of my life here in Ireland. Every damn day.
if it was'nt for field sports there'd be very few unwanted greyhounds in Ireland for you to rescue though. These noble princes of the field conserve our greyhound population at its high levels.
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Conmaicne Mara wrote: »Let me be clearer then, you quoted my post which was in reply to a post saying farmers should be coursed. Your post contained nonsense in regard to the post I had quoted about coursing feeding the country.
But, you know all this, you're just trolling me.
Ah the trolling chestnut. Oh dear
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I can ramble with the best of them.
Correct. Nor would i refer to those opposed to hunting in any of it's form as such. When i use the word extremist i refer to the peopl so blinded by the fight they do not stop to consider the consequences. The oes that would endanger animals, and people to "strike a blow". They are extremists is every sense of the word.
I use the word anti, in a non derogatory way, to describe the general population of anti hunting people. People that dislike it, voice their dislike, but do not engage in such extremist methods to get their point across.
It has been done though, and not once. We find it as distasteful as you or anyone opposed to hunting being described as extremists.
As is your prerogative.
We do not support any activity without being fully informed or for the sake of a row/argument. We do so to defend a tradition, and way of life that while not liked by some, or pursued by others is non the less their legal right.
I would disagree with that sentiment. No one truly knows the opinions or beliefs of all people, however from my own perspective i would say that 90% of poeple i know, am related to, am friends with, have experienced some form of field sports.
I agree with the sentiment. Open, honest discussion is good, but it rarely lasts. Both sides defend their opinions/beliefs strongly, and this always boils over. However i would argue your point about estremists on pro shooting/hunting/coursing side. We do not force our will on others to the pint that we actively seek confrontation IRL. We do not send out unsolicited e-mails, tweets, letters to people's homes, businesses, etc. We do not threaten or damage goods, property, and so on.
Now i do not dare say this is the case with everyone opposed to such endeavours. Far from it. Most are calm, intelligent people able to put their point across in reasoned debate. However those that do act in such a manner destroy any forward movement you may gain or at the very least alienate and diminish the message you try to get across.
Emotive threads always have the potential to descend into chaos, but I found it interesting to read posts where people felt/were under attack as a result of engaging in some field sports. That interests me and I'd like to know more about it.
I know some posters feel that when I said polls are irrelevant that I did so because the pro coursing numbers were stronger than those opposed. I'd like to clarify that what I meant is that I think the bigger issue that has emerged during the poll is the fact that there is violence being directed at field sports enthusiasts.
As I said earlier, I don't condone that. I just think that a thread outside of the hunting/shooting forum on how people feel about the issue would be good. I don't go into the hunting/shooting forum as I know there will be things in it that I don't want to know, then again I don't visit the gaming forums either:)0 -
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OldNotWIse wrote: »Ah the trolling chestnut. Oh dear
You're tedious to respond to, so I will not be bothering any more.0 -
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I can ramble with the best of them.
Correct. Nor would i refer to those opposed to hunting in any of it's form as such. When i use the word extremist i refer to the peopl so blinded by the fight they do not stop to consider the consequences. The oes that would endanger animals, and people to "strike a blow". They are extremists is every sense of the word.
I use the word anti, in a non derogatory way, to describe the general population of anti hunting people. People that dislike it, voice their dislike, but do not engage in such extremist methods to get their point across.
It has been done though, and not once. We find it as distasteful as you or anyone opposed to hunting being described as extremists.
As is your prerogative.
We do not support any activity without being fully informed or for the sake of a row/argument. We do so to defend a tradition, and way of life that while not liked by some, or pursued by others is non the less their legal right.
I would disagree with that sentiment. No one truly knows the opinions or beliefs of all people, however from my own perspective i would say that 90% of poeple i know, am related to, am friends with, have experienced some form of field sports.
I agree with the sentiment. Open, honest discussion is good, but it rarely lasts. Both sides defend their opinions/beliefs strongly, and this always boils over. However i would argue your point about estremists on pro shooting/hunting/coursing side. We do not force our will on others to the pint that we actively seek confrontation IRL. We do not send out unsolicited e-mails, tweets, letters to people's homes, businesses, etc. We do not threaten or damage goods, property, and so on.
Now i do not dare say this is the case with everyone opposed to such endeavours. Far from it. Most are calm, intelligent people able to put their point across in reasoned debate. However those that do act in such a manner destroy any forward movement you may gain or at the very least alienate and diminish the message you try to get across.If you mean you would like to find out what non-hunters, fieldsports people etc think of say, hunting or coursing then I will say two things
1 Of course you would have to exclude everyone with family involved with fieldsports
2 You probably will find most of the remaining people equivocal about the subject, in the way they are equivocal about meat.
just trying to see it from an impartial viewpoint, if that is possible.
Maybe I'm not being as clear as I thought I was. What I mean is that I'm interested in hearing from people who do hunt/shoot about what they experience in terms of being harassed, attacked etc. It wasn't really something that I was aware of. I'd hear the occasional story on the news etc but its not something I'd hear of very often. I'm not disputing that it does happen. I'm just interested in hearing about it from the hunting/shooting perspective.
I don't mean a thread discussing whether or not people agree with hunting/shooting. There seems to be a lot of anger about it from what I've seen during this thread and I think having a thread about it outside of hunting/shooting would give members of that forum the opportunity to share their concerns about that to a broader spectrum of people. Of course there will be some people that take the proverbial but you will find that in After hours.0 -
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You seem to make out that having ears cut off is a common practice which is complete rubbish. This is a common story told by people to evoke emotions for an anti coursing/hunting agenda. If you have found a greyhound discarded as you described, why were the authorities not contacted? People seem to think greyhounds are discarded and have their ears chopped of on a regular basis but the fact is this almost never occurs and that those that do such a thing are not true sports/animal/country people and should be dealt with by the law.
I find it hard to believe someone would not contact the gardai if they allegedly know the identity of the persons.
Greyhounds have ear marking and all can be traced by DNA testing. When I hear stories like this, and yet nothing happens to the perpetrators, I must question the credibility of such a tale.
lots of one post wonders in here, welcome one and all 0 -
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Did you start on boards with 100+ votes or something? Think I'm entitled to start somewhere especially if it's something that interests me
Of course you are, it's not like you were just bussed in.
Maybe vote in that poll thing for a start or make another "no true scotsman" argument perhaps, they're always enjoyable 0 -
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