puppy

grumpig

hi,I was wondering would you know where I could buy a puppy in Dundalk?

ISDW

What sort of puppy?

kylith

Have you contacted your local rescue? They'll often have puppies and will help you to find the one that's right for you.

JustRoss23

Have a look on dondeal mate loads of pups there Just make sure you can see both parents and see the condations in which they are liveing if you cant walk away as they could be a puppy breeder. its really depending on what breed you might if its a gundog i will keep an ear out for ya

Bannasidhe

JustRoss23 wrote: »

Have a look on dondeal mate loads of pups there:D its really depending on what breed you might if its a gundog i will keep an ear out for ya

Many of the pups on donedeal come from puppy farms. I, for one, would never advise someone to buy from there unless they get to see the mother and what conditions she and the pups live in.

ShaShaBear

There's the pound, and two reputable rescues in Dundalk that will be able to help you out. I know for a fact one of the rescues has two puppies at the moment.

DBB

JustRoss23 wrote: »

Have a look on dondeal mate loads of pups there:D its really depending on what breed you might if its a gundog i will keep an ear out for ya

JustRoss23, you are once again verging dangerously close to flaming with this post. Do not post in this deliberately provocative manner again.
Do not reply to this post on thread.
Thanks,
DBB

JustRoss23

Sorry did not mean to offend but sometimes donedeal can trow up a special pup i went to see a pup at them weekend both parents could be seen and it was a treat so if you can see both parents and they seem happy i am sure the pups will be:D

Nody

JustRoss23 wrote: »

Sorry did not mean to offend but sometimes donedeal can trow up a special pup i went to see a pup at them weekend both parents could be seen and it was a treat so if you can see both parents and they seem happy i am sure the pups will be:D

You sound like the poster in another thread who commented that "the dogs looked happy while their owner was cooking meat for them so I paid for a puppy".

All you've said is "I got to see two dogs (claimed to be parents) and hence everything is ok" which is very far from the truth esp. with how puppy farms operate. No breeder would ever let a dog go that easily and you should be asking a lot more questions (and they should ask the same of you!) to be sure.

JustRoss23

Thanks mate good advice:D

Zer0

If you're looking for a pup and are set on a certain type try donedeal or look in the local ads in papers/shops. Please be aware of rouge puppy farms and also asses the living conditions of the pup when you go to view it. Also, if you're looking for a certain type of breed please be aware of health risks/concerns associated with said breed. Be wise to the fact that having a pup is no bundle of joy at times and can be stressful so be ready for that.. e.g. training, feeding, etc etc

Keep in mind that it's also good to look in the local dog rescue/pound for a pup or dog as you will be saving a stray and giving it a good home. It's always good to support your local pound and don't be put off by horror stories about some rescue dogs... any dog, be it from a pound or breeder will give and offer the same amount of affection and love. Another great place to look would be <snip> in dublin which is down the motorway from you.

Good luck with your search.

DBB

I am not convinced the OP in this case is going to return to the forum for answers. OP, if you want me to reopen this thread, please PM me. Until then, the thread is closed.
Thanks,
DBB

DBB

Thread re-opened at OP's request

Can I remind posters that if you want to recommend specific rescues to OP, please only do so by PM. If the OP specifically states they want to buy a pup and not rescue one, please do not continue with any more suggestions to rescue.
Also, no links to Donedeal are allowed, according to the forum charter.
Thanks,
DBB

Dunny

I read in the Leader German Shepard pup for sale. I d recommend rescues but cant.

Try the IKC

leanonme

Many vets do have advertisements on pets for sale in an area. Also if you Google pets for sale or re-homing, there are a number of websites. Do you know what kind of bread, or are you willing to travel out side the area. What is your price range, pure bread, rescue, purchase. Done deal is prob the most popular site to sell dogs on.

I know may people on here don't like done deal, but they never tell you a site they would prefer you to buy an animal off of, they generally push the rescue route.

DBB

leanonme wrote: »

I know may people on here don't like done deal, but they never tell you a site they would prefer you to buy an animal off of, they generally push the rescue route.

I think you've missed the point here leanonme: it is not donedeal per se, it is the sale of dogs on any internet free/cheap ads website, full stop. And it is not just "people on here": it is advised by the IKC, KC, other KCs around the world, well-known rescues, behaviourists, trainers and vets not to source pups/dogs on these sorts of websites because of the inherent risk that you're buying from a puppy farmer, or more likely a back yard breeder, or from another unethical source.
If someone wants to source a dog from an ethical source, it's considerably less risky to go direct to the Kennel Club, Breed Society, or a good, reputable rescue.... not from a sell-em-at-a-profit free/cheap ads site. And that's why you won;t find people gaily posting free/cheap ads links here, quite apart from the fact that it's not allowed!
I think it's important to clarify that advising not to source a pup through websites is not a phenomenon that's unique to this forum.

DBB

Dunny wrote: »

I d recommend rescues but cant.

You can recommend rescues! Just do it by PM.

DBB wrote: »

Can I remind posters that if you want to recommend specific rescues to OP, please only do so by PM.

leanonme

DBB wrote: »

And that's why you won;t find people gaily posting free/cheap ads links here, quite apart from the fact that it's not allowed!

I just wonder how do you know that people would not post links here if it was allowed, as you said your self it is not allowed. It is allowed on other forms on boards, and people do post adds of animals for sale. Also it can be very difficult to obtain a pup from the recommended breeders on the IKC, as some breads only have one recommended breeder, who have a very long list, and thus if people want an animal they don't want to wait 4-5 years. Also it sometimes happens that a bitch has gone in pup by accident, and now the owner is trying to sell these pups, and might have no other way to do so other than one of these sites.

Back on point, I know people who would have asked people who train dogs if they know of any pups in the area, so that might be another option.

andreac

Leanonme, it's pure bred, not bread.

DBB

leanonme wrote: »

I just wonder how do you know that people would not post links here if it was allowed, as you said your self it is not allowed. It is allowed on other forms on boards, and people do post adds of animals for sale.

The wholesale selling of pups-for-profit is nowhere to be seen on Boards: you'll see some litters for sale in the Shooting/Hunting forum alright, but these are generally considered litters, bred for a specific market. This is entirely different to the donedeal et al set-up: did you know that on average, 96 new litters of pups are advertised for sale on donedeal every single day? I'd be surprised if there's one litter a week posted on boards.
I was on this forum when Donedeal ads were allowed. But it caused so much mayhem on the forum that it was banned. For similar reasons, posting rescue names or links to rescues was also banned. Despite the ban, every single day, I have to delete references to both donedeal, other free/cheap ads website, and to rescues.
But I know most people here won't link to Donedeal even if they were allowed to, because they agree with highly respected experts in dog care, welfare, behaviour, health and breeding, that buying dogs from such sources, and pet shops, is a really risky thing to do, and is supporting unethical treatment of dogs. You can't argue with the fact that this practice is seriously frowned upon by people who know what they're talking about!

Also it can be very difficult to obtain a pup from the recommended breeders on the IKC, as some breads only have one recommended breeder, who have a very long list, and thus if people want an animal they don't want to wait 4-5 years.

It can be difficult, yes, but so it should be. In my experience, being able to buy a pup on a whim online has contributed hugely to the unwanted dog problem. I'm no fan of the IKC, but at the same time I don't feel anyone should be able to buy a dog at the click of a button. Also, if the breed you want is THAT rare, would you really want to buy one from someone online? Surely that's counter-intuitive... they're rare for a reason, and that's why you need to wait fore them! But this is a very rare situation. Like I say, an average of 96 new litters is advertised each day on Donedeal: I'd imagine less than one of these litters, on average, is a rare breed.

Also it sometimes happens that a bitch has gone in pup by accident, and now the owner is trying to sell these pups, and might have no other way to do so other than one of these sites.

In which case, perhaps they might contact their local rescue, if they have a litter of mutts for sale? This business of selling mongrel pups, or marketing "designer crossbreeds" is nothing short of disgraceful.
"Accidental" matings of purebred dogs is, in my experience, rarely accidental. But it is a damn convenient way to get the IKC to register your "accidental" purebred litter when normally it would be against their "Code of Practice", such as that is.
Again, however, such litters don't feature much amongst the average of 96 litters advertised daily on donedeal. Almost all of these litters are of breeds that the advertisers know will sell.

ShaShaBear

I think it might help if the OP were to come back personally and tell us more about what they are looking for. It's very easy to buy a puppy, but as previous poster said, we would be better able to assist with the purchase route if we know more about the OPs needs, budget, breed preferences and willingness to travel (as Dundalk is a small enough area, I am not sure if there would be many IKC registered breeders, and I'm assuming the OP wants a pure bred puppy, since they are asking to buy one )

Vel

I don't know for sure, as we always go down the rescue route, but I was always led to believe that reputable breeders do not need to advertise their pups for sale in pet shops, vets, on Donedeal or wherever because they generally have waiting lists for their dogs and often have homes lined up before the litter is even born

grumpig

I was looking for a shih tzu ^^ I wouldnt mind considering other dogs but small ones would be my preference ^^;

JustRoss23

i sent you a pm they are easy got:D

grumpig

JustRoss23 wrote: »

i sent you a pm they are easy got:D

I was looking for maybe cheaper ones maybe around 200 euros or lower.I was looking around donede*l but most of the cheap ones that i prefered were sold.I looked at the pound but there wasn't anyones i prefered. Would there be any more places I could look at someone would recomend or maybe websites. If so pleas PM me.

fatmammycat

Grumpig- don't rush into getting a pup that's 'easily got'.
I find good breeders of good dogs are pretty selective of prospective owners. I had to visit my own pup three times and answer a HOST of questions and form an agreement that should I no longer want my pup I would return him to said breeder. His parents were health checked and hip scored. My pup was vaccinated and micro chipped and IKC registered. I didn't take him until he was 13 weeks old. The result of which I got a well-rounded, healthy socialised pup who hasn't cost me a truck load in vet bills or broken my heart.

Take time to visit a number of breeders, speak to the KC. If you do go ahead, make sure you see the parents in their home environment, ask questions, don't be afraid to walk away if you're not happy. Don't rush into a buying a pup just because they're 'easily got'. Colds are easily got too, but you wouldn't want one for 10- 15 years.

JustRoss23

you will be pushing it at 200 i have a few contacts i will check around for ya.. are you wanting a pup thats ikc reg?

Cocolola

OP a properly bred and reared puppy shouldn't be cheap (or easy to get for that matter). The old adage you get what you pay for applies here too. A responsible breeder will have put a substantial amount of money into breeding a litter, and rightly so. The parents need to be health checked, scored etc, the bitch needs proper veterinary care and nutrition throughout the pregnancy, the pups need all their vaccinations and microchipping and IKC registration and all that. From what I can make out, a responsible breeder should barely break even on a litter.

Also, if you can't afford the cost of a well bred dog, how can you expect to be able to pay for any vet treatment, emergency or otherwise, food, spaying/neutering etc.?

JustRoss23

Cocolola wrote: »

OP a properly bred and reared puppy shouldn't be cheap (or easy to get for that matter). The old adage you get what you pay for applies here too. A responsible breeder will have put a substantial amount of money into breeding a litter, and rightly so. The parents need to be health checked, scored etc, the bitch needs proper veterinary care and nutrition throughout the pregnancy, the pups need all their vaccinations and microchipping and IKC registration and all that. From what I can make out, a responsible breeder should barely break even on a litter.

Also, if you can't afford the cost of a well bred dog, how can you expect to be able to pay for any vet treatment, emergency or otherwise, food, spaying/neutering etc.?

Yea i agree we do it for the love of the dog/breed:D

grumpig

fatmammycat wrote: »

Grumpig- don't rush into getting a pup that's 'easily got'.
I find good breeders of good dogs are pretty selective of prospective owners. I had to visit my own pup three times and answer a HOST of questions and form an agreement that should I no longer want my pup I would return him to said breeder. His parents were health checked and hip scored. My pup was vaccinated and micro chipped and IKC registered. I didn't take him until he was 13 weeks old. The result of which I got a well-rounded, healthy socialised pup who hasn't cost me a truck load in vet bills or broken my heart.

Take time to visit a number of breeders, speak to the KC. If you do go ahead, make sure you see the parents in their home environment, ask questions, don't be afraid to walk away if you're not happy. Don't rush into a buying a pup just because they're 'easily got'. Colds are easily got too, but you wouldn't want one for 10- 15 years.

Thank you,for the information on that I understand that i should not rush but it is my first time getting a puppy but im not rushing and I understand that a puppy needs a lot of care and Im sure I have a good enviroment to raise a puppy. I am quite confused of where I could find one and the local pet stores do not have the bred im looking for. Could you suggest me few places or maybe website you found your puppy?

fatmammycat

grumpig wrote: »

Thank you,for the information on that I understand that i should not rush but it is my first time getting a puppy but im not rushing and I understand that a puppy needs a lot of care and Im sure I have a good enviroment to raise a puppy. I am quite confused of where I could find one and the local pet stores do not have the bred im looking for. Could you suggest me few places or maybe website you found your puppy?

My breeder didn't advertise per se, he was recommended to me by a number of people and I had to wait for a litter, and put my name down in advance of them being born.( although I did get to choose my pup when he was about six weeks, though I wasn't getting him for another 7 weeks(!). I went to see him a few times as he was developing so we could get to know each other.
Do contact the kennel club, they should be able to put you in touch with a responsible breeder. By the way, the care and environment advice was not about you or your home- I'm sure you will care for your pup; but rather about the breeder. You should be able to see both parents and discuss the pup and the dam's breeding history and relevant health checks. The breeder should be interested in your personal set up and be happy to take your pup back if there is a problem.