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puppy

  • 25-02-2013 12:21am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭


    hi,I was wondering would you know where I could buy a puppy in Dundalk?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    What sort of puppy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Have you contacted your local rescue? They'll often have puppies and will help you to find the one that's right for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Have a look on dondeal mate loads of pups there Just make sure you can see both parents and see the condations in which they are liveing if you cant walk away as they could be a puppy breeder. its really depending on what breed you might if its a gundog i will keep an ear out for ya :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    Have a look on dondeal mate loads of pups there:D its really depending on what breed you might if its a gundog i will keep an ear out for ya :D

    Many of the pups on donedeal come from puppy farms. I, for one, would never advise someone to buy from there unless they get to see the mother and what conditions she and the pups live in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    There's the pound, and two reputable rescues in Dundalk that will be able to help you out. I know for a fact one of the rescues has two puppies at the moment.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    Have a look on dondeal mate loads of pups there:D its really depending on what breed you might if its a gundog i will keep an ear out for ya :D

    JustRoss23, you are once again verging dangerously close to flaming with this post. Do not post in this deliberately provocative manner again.
    Do not reply to this post on thread.
    Thanks,
    DBB


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Sorry did not mean to offend but sometimes donedeal can trow up a special pup i went to see a pup at them weekend both parents could be seen and it was a treat so if you can see both parents and they seem happy i am sure the pups will be:D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,375 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    Sorry did not mean to offend but sometimes donedeal can trow up a special pup i went to see a pup at them weekend both parents could be seen and it was a treat so if you can see both parents and they seem happy i am sure the pups will be:D
    You sound like the poster in another thread who commented that "the dogs looked happy while their owner was cooking meat for them so I paid for a puppy".

    All you've said is "I got to see two dogs (claimed to be parents) and hence everything is ok" which is very far from the truth esp. with how puppy farms operate. No breeder would ever let a dog go that easily and you should be asking a lot more questions (and they should ask the same of you!) to be sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Thanks mate good advice:D


  • Site Banned Posts: 71 ✭✭Zer0


    If you're looking for a pup and are set on a certain type try donedeal or look in the local ads in papers/shops. Please be aware of rouge puppy farms and also asses the living conditions of the pup when you go to view it. Also, if you're looking for a certain type of breed please be aware of health risks/concerns associated with said breed. Be wise to the fact that having a pup is no bundle of joy at times and can be stressful so be ready for that.. e.g. training, feeding, etc etc

    Keep in mind that it's also good to look in the local dog rescue/pound for a pup or dog as you will be saving a stray and giving it a good home. It's always good to support your local pound and don't be put off by horror stories about some rescue dogs... any dog, be it from a pound or breeder will give and offer the same amount of affection and love. Another great place to look would be <snip> in dublin which is down the motorway from you.

    Good luck with your search.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    I am not convinced the OP in this case is going to return to the forum for answers. OP, if you want me to reopen this thread, please PM me. Until then, the thread is closed.
    Thanks,
    DBB


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Thread re-opened at OP's request

    Can I remind posters that if you want to recommend specific rescues to OP, please only do so by PM. If the OP specifically states they want to buy a pup and not rescue one, please do not continue with any more suggestions to rescue.
    Also, no links to Donedeal are allowed, according to the forum charter.
    Thanks,
    DBB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Dunny


    I read in the Leader German Shepard pup for sale. I d recommend rescues but cant.

    Try the IKC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭leanonme


    Many vets do have advertisements on pets for sale in an area. Also if you Google pets for sale or re-homing, there are a number of websites. Do you know what kind of bread, or are you willing to travel out side the area. What is your price range, pure bread, rescue, purchase. Done deal is prob the most popular site to sell dogs on.

    I know may people on here don't like done deal, but they never tell you a site they would prefer you to buy an animal off of, they generally push the rescue route.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    leanonme wrote: »
    I know may people on here don't like done deal, but they never tell you a site they would prefer you to buy an animal off of, they generally push the rescue route.

    I think you've missed the point here leanonme: it is not donedeal per se, it is the sale of dogs on any internet free/cheap ads website, full stop. And it is not just "people on here": it is advised by the IKC, KC, other KCs around the world, well-known rescues, behaviourists, trainers and vets not to source pups/dogs on these sorts of websites because of the inherent risk that you're buying from a puppy farmer, or more likely a back yard breeder, or from another unethical source.
    If someone wants to source a dog from an ethical source, it's considerably less risky to go direct to the Kennel Club, Breed Society, or a good, reputable rescue.... not from a sell-em-at-a-profit free/cheap ads site. And that's why you won;t find people gaily posting free/cheap ads links here, quite apart from the fact that it's not allowed!
    I think it's important to clarify that advising not to source a pup through websites is not a phenomenon that's unique to this forum.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    Dunny wrote: »
    I d recommend rescues but cant.

    You can recommend rescues! Just do it by PM.
    DBB wrote: »

    Can I remind posters that if you want to recommend specific rescues to OP, please only do so by PM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭leanonme


    DBB wrote: »
    And that's why you won;t find people gaily posting free/cheap ads links here, quite apart from the fact that it's not allowed!

    I just wonder how do you know that people would not post links here if it was allowed, as you said your self it is not allowed. It is allowed on other forms on boards, and people do post adds of animals for sale. Also it can be very difficult to obtain a pup from the recommended breeders on the IKC, as some breads only have one recommended breeder, who have a very long list, and thus if people want an animal they don't want to wait 4-5 years. Also it sometimes happens that a bitch has gone in pup by accident, and now the owner is trying to sell these pups, and might have no other way to do so other than one of these sites.

    Back on point, I know people who would have asked people who train dogs if they know of any pups in the area, so that might be another option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Leanonme, it's pure bred, not bread.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    leanonme wrote: »
    I just wonder how do you know that people would not post links here if it was allowed, as you said your self it is not allowed. It is allowed on other forms on boards, and people do post adds of animals for sale.

    The wholesale selling of pups-for-profit is nowhere to be seen on Boards: you'll see some litters for sale in the Shooting/Hunting forum alright, but these are generally considered litters, bred for a specific market. This is entirely different to the donedeal et al set-up: did you know that on average, 96 new litters of pups are advertised for sale on donedeal every single day? I'd be surprised if there's one litter a week posted on boards.
    I was on this forum when Donedeal ads were allowed. But it caused so much mayhem on the forum that it was banned. For similar reasons, posting rescue names or links to rescues was also banned. Despite the ban, every single day, I have to delete references to both donedeal, other free/cheap ads website, and to rescues.
    But I know most people here won't link to Donedeal even if they were allowed to, because they agree with highly respected experts in dog care, welfare, behaviour, health and breeding, that buying dogs from such sources, and pet shops, is a really risky thing to do, and is supporting unethical treatment of dogs. You can't argue with the fact that this practice is seriously frowned upon by people who know what they're talking about!

    Also it can be very difficult to obtain a pup from the recommended breeders on the IKC, as some breads only have one recommended breeder, who have a very long list, and thus if people want an animal they don't want to wait 4-5 years.

    It can be difficult, yes, but so it should be. In my experience, being able to buy a pup on a whim online has contributed hugely to the unwanted dog problem. I'm no fan of the IKC, but at the same time I don't feel anyone should be able to buy a dog at the click of a button. Also, if the breed you want is THAT rare, would you really want to buy one from someone online? Surely that's counter-intuitive... they're rare for a reason, and that's why you need to wait fore them! But this is a very rare situation. Like I say, an average of 96 new litters is advertised each day on Donedeal: I'd imagine less than one of these litters, on average, is a rare breed.
    Also it sometimes happens that a bitch has gone in pup by accident, and now the owner is trying to sell these pups, and might have no other way to do so other than one of these sites.
    In which case, perhaps they might contact their local rescue, if they have a litter of mutts for sale? This business of selling mongrel pups, or marketing "designer crossbreeds" is nothing short of disgraceful.
    "Accidental" matings of purebred dogs is, in my experience, rarely accidental. But it is a damn convenient way to get the IKC to register your "accidental" purebred litter when normally it would be against their "Code of Practice", such as that is.
    Again, however, such litters don't feature much amongst the average of 96 litters advertised daily on donedeal. Almost all of these litters are of breeds that the advertisers know will sell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    I think it might help if the OP were to come back personally and tell us more about what they are looking for. It's very easy to buy a puppy, but as previous poster said, we would be better able to assist with the purchase route if we know more about the OPs needs, budget, breed preferences and willingness to travel (as Dundalk is a small enough area, I am not sure if there would be many IKC registered breeders, and I'm assuming the OP wants a pure bred puppy, since they are asking to buy one ;) )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    I don't know for sure, as we always go down the rescue route, but I was always led to believe that reputable breeders do not need to advertise their pups for sale in pet shops, vets, on Donedeal or wherever because they generally have waiting lists for their dogs and often have homes lined up before the litter is even born


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭grumpig


    I was looking for a shih tzu ^^ I wouldnt mind considering other dogs but small ones would be my preference ^^;


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    i sent you a pm they are easy got:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭grumpig


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    i sent you a pm they are easy got:D

    I was looking for maybe cheaper ones maybe around 200 euros or lower.I was looking around donede*l but most of the cheap ones that i prefered were sold.I looked at the pound but there wasn't anyones i prefered. :( Would there be any more places I could look at someone would recomend or maybe websites. :confused: If so pleas PM me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    Grumpig- don't rush into getting a pup that's 'easily got'.
    I find good breeders of good dogs are pretty selective of prospective owners. I had to visit my own pup three times and answer a HOST of questions and form an agreement that should I no longer want my pup I would return him to said breeder. His parents were health checked and hip scored. My pup was vaccinated and micro chipped and IKC registered. I didn't take him until he was 13 weeks old. The result of which I got a well-rounded, healthy socialised pup who hasn't cost me a truck load in vet bills or broken my heart.

    Take time to visit a number of breeders, speak to the KC. If you do go ahead, make sure you see the parents in their home environment, ask questions, don't be afraid to walk away if you're not happy. Don't rush into a buying a pup just because they're 'easily got'. Colds are easily got too, but you wouldn't want one for 10- 15 years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    you will be pushing it at 200 i have a few contacts i will check around for ya.. are you wanting a pup thats ikc reg?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Cocolola


    OP a properly bred and reared puppy shouldn't be cheap (or easy to get for that matter). The old adage you get what you pay for applies here too. A responsible breeder will have put a substantial amount of money into breeding a litter, and rightly so. The parents need to be health checked, scored etc, the bitch needs proper veterinary care and nutrition throughout the pregnancy, the pups need all their vaccinations and microchipping and IKC registration and all that. From what I can make out, a responsible breeder should barely break even on a litter.

    Also, if you can't afford the cost of a well bred dog, how can you expect to be able to pay for any vet treatment, emergency or otherwise, food, spaying/neutering etc.?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Cocolola wrote: »
    OP a properly bred and reared puppy shouldn't be cheap (or easy to get for that matter). The old adage you get what you pay for applies here too. A responsible breeder will have put a substantial amount of money into breeding a litter, and rightly so. The parents need to be health checked, scored etc, the bitch needs proper veterinary care and nutrition throughout the pregnancy, the pups need all their vaccinations and microchipping and IKC registration and all that. From what I can make out, a responsible breeder should barely break even on a litter.

    Also, if you can't afford the cost of a well bred dog, how can you expect to be able to pay for any vet treatment, emergency or otherwise, food, spaying/neutering etc.?


    Yea i agree we do it for the love of the dog/breed:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭grumpig


    Grumpig- don't rush into getting a pup that's 'easily got'.
    I find good breeders of good dogs are pretty selective of prospective owners. I had to visit my own pup three times and answer a HOST of questions and form an agreement that should I no longer want my pup I would return him to said breeder. His parents were health checked and hip scored. My pup was vaccinated and micro chipped and IKC registered. I didn't take him until he was 13 weeks old. The result of which I got a well-rounded, healthy socialised pup who hasn't cost me a truck load in vet bills or broken my heart.

    Take time to visit a number of breeders, speak to the KC. If you do go ahead, make sure you see the parents in their home environment, ask questions, don't be afraid to walk away if you're not happy. Don't rush into a buying a pup just because they're 'easily got'. Colds are easily got too, but you wouldn't want one for 10- 15 years.

    Thank you,for the information on that I understand that i should not rush but it is my first time getting a puppy but im not rushing and I understand that a puppy needs a lot of care and Im sure I have a good enviroment to raise a puppy. :) I am quite confused of where I could find one and the local pet stores do not have the bred im looking for. Could you suggest me few places or maybe website you found your puppy? :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    grumpig wrote: »
    Thank you,for the information on that I understand that i should not rush but it is my first time getting a puppy but im not rushing and I understand that a puppy needs a lot of care and Im sure I have a good enviroment to raise a puppy. :) I am quite confused of where I could find one and the local pet stores do not have the bred im looking for. Could you suggest me few places or maybe website you found your puppy? :)

    My breeder didn't advertise per se, he was recommended to me by a number of people and I had to wait for a litter, and put my name down in advance of them being born.( although I did get to choose my pup when he was about six weeks, though I wasn't getting him for another 7 weeks(!). I went to see him a few times as he was developing so we could get to know each other.
    Do contact the kennel club, they should be able to put you in touch with a responsible breeder. By the way, the care and environment advice was not about you or your home- I'm sure you will care for your pup; but rather about the breeder. You should be able to see both parents and discuss the pup and the dam's breeding history and relevant health checks. The breeder should be interested in your personal set up and be happy to take your pup back if there is a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    If you are looking a pure-bred, have exhausted all other options, then you will need to contact the Kennel Club and ask for names of breeders of the dog you are after, then go on a waiting list with them for their puppies. You likely will not get ANY healthy, purebred puppy for less than €200, that's low even for DoneDeal!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    ya might get a purebred pup for 200 but ya certainly wont get an ikc reg one for that:D your taking 300 min


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    If it's not IKC reg'd you need to ask why OP. It could mean the bitch is too old or too young to be bred, or has been bred too many times in the past. It costs very little to reg a pup with the IKC so be on guard if a back yard breeder offers you one who he or she hasn't bothered to register. There is a reason for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    almost sure posting links to rescue centers is not allowed:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    almost sure posting links to rescue centers is not allowed:D

    It's not.

    Regardless, Im assuming the OP can't travel since they want to know about the Dundalk area, so that rescue would be a bit out of reach.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭DBB


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    almost sure posting links to rescue centers is not allowed:D

    Back-seat modding is also not allowed.
    Please read the forum charter before posting again.
    Do not reply to this post on thread.
    Thanks,
    DBB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    OP, getting a puppy cheaply is generally a sign of a puppy farm. Google 'puppy farm' and see if you'd be happy with a dog from there. The money you save by not going to a good breeder you're likely to pay out tenfold in vet's bills because these people don't health test. That's why decent breeders' dogs are so expensive; they health test, register, microchip and feed good food. Puppy farms don't have those overheads; they just keep a few dozen bitches in a shed and keep them constantly pregnant, with little or no vet care.

    If you can't afford a properly bred puppy then go to a rescue and get a pup from there. They'll have been checked over by a vet so you'll know they're healthy, and the shelter may also help with the cost of neutering when the pup's old enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Magenta


    kylith wrote: »
    If you can't afford a properly bred puppy then go to a rescue and get a pup from there. They'll have been checked over by a vet so you'll know they're healthy

    A checkup by a vet does not mean the puppy is healthy. I've said it before and I'll say it again- rescue dogs are not some sort of super-species. If the OP went to a backyard breeder whose puppies had been to a vet, and the parents hadn't had proper health screening, would you be happy with that? Or would you still push her to go to a "proper" breeder?

    If you're going to push the rescue route, at least give all the facts, and the pros and cons. A check over will not show underlying or developing conditions such as epilepsy, hip dysplasia, or many other hereditary health issues. Those puppies could go on to develop health issues the same as a purebred puppy. On one hand you're telling the OP to go to a breeder and get a properly bred puppy whose parents have been screened for genetic health issues, on another hand you're telling to go to a rescue and get a puppy which is more than likely going to be of unknown parentage and bloodlines. If a healthy, well bred puppy is the goal, a rescue puppy is not the ideal solution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭grumpig


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    It's not.

    Regardless, Im assuming the OP can't travel since they want to know about the Dundalk area, so that rescue would be a bit out of reach.

    Thank you for noticing,but if I found a dog I was for certain that like I think I would not mind going a bit farther. I have tried the rescue route though and I can't find a puppy that I like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    grumpig wrote: »
    Thank you for noticing,but if I found a dog I was for certain that like I think I would not mind going a bit farther. I have tried the rescue route though and I can't find a puppy that I like.

    Well, how about you tell us what you like, and we might be able to help? :o
    Breeds do have personalities that are characteristic of the breed, but at the same time all dogs are different! If we have a better idea of the time you can give to grooming and exercise, how long the puppy will be left alone daily, whether your puppy will be around children/other dogs/other animals etc, we might be able to recommend breeds of dog you hadn't considered yet, or maybe we might know a rescue who happens to have a puppy like that which you haven't seen yet, or we can advise you of a member of the KC who breeds puppies suitable for you :)
    And remember to add local and not-so-local rescues on Facebook if you use it. Often, personal parties advertise accidental litters or home dogs they can no longer look after there, which is something you might not see if you visited a rescue. Also, you could offer to foster a puppy for a rescue. It's a great way to break you into looking after a puppy, and if you find out the breed, work involved or particular dog is not for you, you can give it back and feel good in knowing you saved the rescue a few quid in kenneling costs. One in Dundalk will supply you with dog food, leads, collars and a crate, which means it wouldn't cost you anything, and you get a trial run!

    If your heart is set on a particular breed, and you absolutely want a puppy, then Kennel Club is the only way to go (aside from getting lucky with a rescue) and you really have to prepare yourself to pay. Registered, pure-bred dogs are not cheap, even the most common breeds, and all puppies will need to see the vet after you've bought/rescued them, so that is another cost you need to be prepared for on top of what you might pay for a dog. Not all Kennel Club registered breeders are shining examples of dog owners either, so you need to be prepared to ask millions of questions, watch out for signs of suspicious behaviour/dodging of questions, and you always need to be prepared to walk away if it doesn't feel right.

    So to recap, tell us more about your ideal puppy, and any experience you have with puppies to date. Put your name down with local rescues as a fosterer for puppies and you might get the chance to test run a little baby. Maybe you won't fall in love, maybe you will, but either way you're doing a great thing! Get in touch with breeders of the breed you like most that are registered with the Kennel Club, and get ready to wait! If you love doggies as much as most of us do, that wait will be very like the wait all expecting parents have to experience - well worth it in the end ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭grumpig


    ShaShaBear wrote: »
    Well, how about you tell us what you like, and we might be able to help? :o
    Breeds do have personalities that are characteristic of the breed, but at the same time all dogs are different! If we have a better idea of the time you can give to grooming and exercise, how long the puppy will be left alone daily, whether your puppy will be around children/other dogs/other animals etc, we might be able to recommend breeds of dog you hadn't considered yet, or maybe we might know a rescue who happens to have a puppy like that which you haven't seen yet, or we can advise you of a member of the KC who breeds puppies suitable for you :)
    And remember to add local and not-so-local rescues on Facebook if you use it. Often, personal parties advertise accidental litters or home dogs they can no longer look after there, which is something you might not see if you visited a rescue. Also, you could offer to foster a puppy for a rescue. It's a great way to break you into looking after a puppy, and if you find out the breed, work involved or particular dog is not for you, you can give it back and feel good in knowing you saved the rescue a few quid in kenneling costs. One in Dundalk will supply you with dog food, leads, collars and a crate, which means it wouldn't cost you anything, and you get a trial run!

    If your heart is set on a particular breed, and you absolutely want a puppy, then Kennel Club is the only way to go (aside from getting lucky with a rescue) and you really have to prepare yourself to pay. Registered, pure-bred dogs are not cheap, even the most common breeds, and all puppies will need to see the vet after you've bought/rescued them, so that is another cost you need to be prepared for on top of what you might pay for a dog. Not all Kennel Club registered breeders are shining examples of dog owners either, so you need to be prepared to ask millions of questions, watch out for signs of suspicious behaviour/dodging of questions, and you always need to be prepared to walk away if it doesn't feel right.

    So to recap, tell us more about your ideal puppy, and any experience you have with puppies to date. Put your name down with local rescues as a fosterer for puppies and you might get the chance to test run a little baby. Maybe you won't fall in love, maybe you will, but either way you're doing a great thing! Get in touch with breeders of the breed you like most that are registered with the Kennel Club, and get ready to wait! If you love doggies as much as most of us do, that wait will be very like the wait all expecting parents have to experience - well worth it in the end ;)

    okay well I want a small dog. Id like a soft hearted dog(Im not quite sure if that would make sense sorry) not a vicious dog and it would be good if the dog was good around other people too. I would not want the dog to bite someone that came over to my house or so. Energetic would be good :) I don't mind about the colour too much but l dogs that are kind of spotty. The puppy wont be left at home alone for too long not more than 2 hours because most time there is someone at home and i would be out from 9 am-4 pm. The puppy would not be around with any children only 2 adults. Is there any information i left? ^^;

    I have tried going on the IKC website but nothing has came up for shih tzu. I would not mind waiting if I have found a breder but I have not found one yet. I went to my local pet shop to ask and they did not have any information except for telling me to go to Done*eal and IKC. I have looked at the option of foster but there does not seem to be any puppy so i think it does not quite interest me ^^; Thank you :D I will be prepared thank you. Would there be any other questions besides the medical history of parents and the pup or if registered? and What proof would they show me for the medical history? ^^;


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭Rommie


    grumpig wrote: »
    okay well I want a small dog. Id like a soft hearted dog(Im not quite sure if that would make sense sorry) not a vicious dog and it would be good if the dog was good around other people too. I would not want the dog to bite someone that came over to my house or so. Energetic would be good :) I don't mind about the colour too much but l dogs that are kind of spotty. The puppy wont be left at home alone for too long not more than 2 hours because most time there is someone at home and i would be out from 9 am-4 pm. The puppy would not be around with any children only 2 adults. Is there any information i left? ^^;

    People make dogs vicious, it doesn't matter what breed you get, you could make it vicious by abusing it, not socialising it, getting it from someone who abused it etc. But there is no such thing as a dog being vicious just because of its breed. Again with being good around people, it's up to you to socialise the dog with people and make sure it's good with people. I've met more 'vicious' shih tzus than I have pitbulls. A dog will only be what you make of it when you put in the time and work. Otherwise you'll find that your 'soft-hearted' dog could cause a lot of trouble


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    grumpig wrote: »
    okay well I want a small dog. Id like a soft hearted dog(Im not quite sure if that would make sense sorry) not a vicious dog and it would be good if the dog was good around other people too. I would not want the dog to bite someone that came over to my house or so. Energetic would be good :) I don't mind about the colour too much but l dogs that are kind of spotty. The puppy wont be left at home alone for too long not more than 2 hours because most time there is someone at home and i would be out from 9 am-4 pm. The puppy would not be around with any children only 2 adults. Is there any information i left? ^^;

    I have tried going on the IKC website but nothing has came up for shih tzu. I would not mind waiting if I have found a breder but I have not found one yet. I went to my local pet shop to ask and they did not have any information except for telling me to go to Done*eal and IKC. I have looked at the option of foster but there does not seem to be any puppy so i think it does not quite interest me ^^; Thank you :D I will be prepared thank you. Would there be any other questions besides the medical history of parents and the pup or if registered? and What proof would they show me for the medical history? ^^;

    I feel like you might enjoy either a Staffie or possibly a cocker spaniel. They're both on the smaller side of medium (not quite toy-sized), both can have unusual markings, and the spaniel would be quite energetic (staffies can be a bit of a couch potato :p )
    Both breeds are quite common.

    Like Rommie said, a dog is not born vicious - they are made that way. If you get a puppy from a good, reliable source, and train them well, show them plenty of love and affection, and make sure to socialise them properly, you will never have problems with biting (other than bog standard puppy nipping, which you will encounter in spades with ALL breeds of puppy :rolleyes: )

    The Cocker Spaniel Club of Ireland is stationed in Meath (not too far from Dundalk) so you might get some information there. There are also 4 contacts on the IKC site for staffies, and one for the Shih Tzu Club of Ireland (it's a bit hard to find, because there are two listings, and the one it is under is miss-spelt "Shih Tzi".

    If you are meeting with a breeder of any of these breeds, you can definitely expect to pay more than €200. Realistically, double that. So what you would need to decide is if you are willing to pay this much money for a dog. If so, then no problem. If not, then your next option is to look at cross-bred puppies, and like breeders, you might need to travel or wait for the right puppy to come into rescue. If you ARE interested in a cross-bred puppy, maybe use Facebook to contact all of the rescues you are willing to travel to. There are two in Dundalk, one in Carrickmacross, one in Monaghan, and numerous ones in Dublin. All you have to do is explain what you are interested in and leave contact details and they will let you know if anything becomes available.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    ya can get a cheap dog nowadays its quite handy did you pick a breed yet? i no a few peeps who might have what your looking for cheap enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    ya can get a cheap dog nowadays its quite handy did you pick a breed yet? i no a few peeps who might have what your looking for cheap enough:D

    Can you source any breed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    ISDW wrote: »
    Can you source any breed?

    I'm very curious to see where he is going with this too :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    ya can get a cheap dog nowadays its quite handy did you pick a breed yet? i no a few peeps who might have what your looking for cheap enough:D

    <snip>

    TBH, the way I read the post above is that you know a fella that might have a few dodgy puppies going, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. You tend to put various smilies in all your posts and (to me) you're coming across as being either a wind up merchant/troll or somebody a bit dodge. Sorry if I'm wrong but I'm just interpreting what I see.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    <snip>
    TBH, the way I read the post above is that you know a fella that might have a few dodgy puppies going, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. You tend to put various smilies in all your posts and (to me) you're coming across as being either a wind up merchant/troll or somebody a bit dodge. Sorry if I'm wrong but I'm just interpreting what I see.

    Sorry i took the smiley out of it.. no not any breed its just a mate i no has some FAMILY/Pet dogs of which a bitch is in pup so depending on what the op wants it could be a choice sorry for the smiley i wont post them again.


    Point taking i see where your coming from and can i just say i am not a TROLL some of my posts were a disgrace to me i am sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,528 ✭✭✭ShaShaBear


    JustRoss23 wrote: »
    Sorry i took the smiley out of it.. no not any breed its just a mate i no has some FAMILY/Pet dogs of which a bitch is in pup so depending on what the op wants it could be a choice sorry for the smiley i wont post them again.

    Are her pups pure-bred? And if so, what breed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭JustRoss23


    Yea they are PB why does it matter what breed? i am sorry for the way some of my other posts came across i am against puppy farming i really am.


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