Cyclists, rules of the road, a bit of cop on!

Cabaal

Cienciano wrote: »

The cyclists can go and pay some road tax before they start complaining

Great!
In that case so can motorists....since they pay MOTOR tax.

Until they pay road tax i guess they can't complain either.

rolexeagle1

tommythecat wrote: »

Thats even worse!

maybe you should have been there, the 2 people who approached me after the incident seemed to agree.

was just a rant, before this gets out of hand Mod should lock it, going nowhere

smackyB

srumball wrote: »

I was in the opposing lane coming across a yellow box into the garage

Then you need to check that ALL lanes are clear before proceeding across the road. Get yourself some driving lessons.

Wossack

this thread is giving me road rage, just sitting in front of my computer

tommythecat

srumball wrote: »

maybe you should have been there, the 2 people who approached me after the incident seemed to agree.

was just a rant, before this gets out of hand Mod should lock it, going nowhere

Its irrelevant what THEY think its the rules of the road!

Tombo2001

IMO motorists seem to think they own the road, just this morning I was standing at a pedestrian light, traffic light goes red, pedestrian light goes green and the motorist who is on the phone just drives straight through.

Now the reason this really really annoyed me was that a child was killed 12 months ago at same traffic lights when exactly the same thing happened, poor kid walking across on a green man, and all the bunches of flowers and soccer jerseys that his mates put up and little bits of graffiti that his friends wrote on the traffic light are all still there. And our motorist friend on the phone just drove straight through.

Pretty sure motorists have to obey the rules of the road also, this would include stopping at a red light? am I wrong.

And how many times a day do you see motorists stopping in yellow boxes?? A HELL OF A LOT MORE THEN OTHER VEHICLES!!

Its an absolute joke and then, they come on hear and moan about bike users....

No bike user had the intention of goin out an causing an accident, purposely breaking lights, road signs etc. But motorists do ALL the time.

Motorists more than any other people on the road should be exercising more caution, your machines are killers!


OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD!


Rant over.

danniemcq

srumball wrote: »

IMO cyclists seem to think they own the road, just the other day I was crossing through a yellow box into the petrol station, traffic was back up from the lights (red light) through the box. A cyclist was FLYING down the cycle lane not looking ahead and nearly slammed into the side of the car as I was pulling into the petrol station. He then followed me into the petrol station and began to beat on my car, calling my girlfriend a C**t etc scaring the **** out of her in the car.

Everyone in the petrol station and traffic was watching like WTF is up with this guy. 2 people approached me afterward saying they saw the whole thing and the cyclist was definetly in the wrong, flying down the inside lane not looking ahead at all, when the light infront of him were red and almost causing an accident.

Pretty sure cyclist have to obey the rules of the road also, this would include stopping before the yellow box in traffic? am I wrong.

And how many times a day do you see cyclists breaking red lights/filters etc?? A HELL OF A LOT MORE THEN OTHER VEHICLES!!

Its an absolute joke and then, they come on hear and moan about car users....

No car user had the intention of goin out an causing an accident, purposely breaking lights, road signs etc. But cyclists do ALL the time.

Cyclists more than any other people on the road should be exercising more caution, you are totally exposed for christs sake!

get over yourselves

OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD!


rant over

ah good another one of these threads, so becuase you seen an idiot cyclist ALL cyclists are idiots.

and you say he was in a cycle lane, was there anything between him and the lights?

going by what you said you crossed through another lane without looking. If there was someone walking across the entrance to the garage would you have stopped for them?

And he was well in his right to yell IMO. you seem to have been the eejit reading through your post again. i have lost count of the number of time i have been cut off when i used to cycle (i'm 6 foot 2 and flly kitted in bright reflective gear so kinda hard to miss) i've ended up hitting the side of cars because they turned into me. I've ended up over bonnets and roofs. Being a cyclist is a nightmare with drivers who only look for other cars.

And next time you go into that entrance bet you are gonna look out for cyclists and because of that you might see someone else coming and stop instead of hitting them.

rolexeagle1

tommythecat wrote: »

Its irrelevant what THEY think its the rules of the road!

Agreed and as I previously stated I was still angry when I posted this. I could have taken more care, but I still would not have seen him. He literally came out of nowhere. I was creeping across the box and still didnt see him.

Saying that he was still going TOO fast approaching RED lights (about 20 foot ahead) in traffic in rush hour!

davetherave

So you crossed over into his lane without checking the way was clear, nearly took him out of it and he is the one who needs to cop on??

srumball

srumball wrote: »

was just a rant, before this gets out of hand Mod should lock it, going nowhere

You mean everyone isn't agreeing with you. Quite right, too

bad2dabone

sounds like the OP deserves a smack.


of the rules of the road handbook!

rolexeagle1

bad2dabone wrote: »

sounds like the OP deserves a smack.

wanna come give me one?

kylith

srumball wrote: »

Agreed and as I previously stated I was still angry when I posted this. I could have taken more care, but I still would not have seen him. He literally came out of nowhere. I was creeping across the box and still didnt see him.

Saying that he was still going TOO fast approaching RED lights (about 20 foot ahead) in traffic in rush hour!

He didn't come out of nowhere, he was travelling in his own lane. How fast he was travelling is not your concern, as you found out this morning bicycles have a much smaller stopping distance than cars.

danniemcq

srumball wrote: »

maybe you should have been there, the 2 people who approached me after the incident seemed to agree.

was just a rant, before this gets out of hand Mod should lock it, going nowhere

going nowhere or just realised that not everyone agreeing with you and you see that you too were in the wrong

bad2dabone

srumball wrote: »

wanna come give me one?

sure you wouldn't see it coming

MrScootch

srumball wrote: »

He literally came out of nowhere.

I cannot believe you seriously just said that.

tommythecat

srumball wrote: »

Agreed and as I previously stated I was still angry when I posted this. I could have taken more care, but I still would not have seen him. He literally came out of nowhere. I was creeping across the box and still didnt see him.

Saying that he was still going TOO fast approaching RED lights (about 20 foot ahead) in traffic in rush hour!

Ah Here, Come off it...

the groutch

OP 100% in the wrong, glad the cyclist avoided injury.

rolexeagle1

danniemcq wrote: »

going nowhere or just realised that not everyone agreeing with you and you see that you too were in the wrong

Again had you been there i'm sure you would be denouncing his own reckless endangerment.

Also haven't seen anybody defending the fact that many more cyclists proceed through red lights then motorists, introducing more danger to themselves

BostonB

srumball wrote: »

...
Pretty sure cyclist have to obey the rules of the road also, this would include stopping before the yellow box in traffic? am I wrong...

Yes.

srumball wrote: »

Its an absolute joke..

Yes. But you could have killed him.

srumball wrote: »

maybe you should have been there, the 2 people who approached me after the incident seemed to agree. ...

Maybe they don't know the rules either.

srumball wrote: »

...
Saying that he was still going TOO fast approaching RED lights (about 20 foot ahead) in traffic in rush hour!

The only thing I do agree with you, is the cyclist was probably going too fast. While he should have seen you, you should have seen him.

When you calm down, theres lessons to be learnt here. Thats what to take from this.

lertsnim

Cienciano wrote: »

The cyclists can go and pay some road tax before they start complaining

It is possible to own a car and a bicycle you know.

rolexeagle1

i'm not saying I was right, but the given the circumstances I proceeded slowly and with care in traffic that was at a standstill, was looking and did not see the cyclist. I apologized to him after it and he proceeded to follow me into the petrol station hit my car and abuse my passanger

Mugser

Hmmmmmm, a tonne- tonne and a half of metal with ABS, Airbags and numerous other safety systems to protect the driver/passengers... V's 10-15kgs of bike with a fully exposed pilot where the only safety system was probably his helmet???
Only one winner there as far as I can see. Get over yourself and open your eyes.
A few weeks ago a car drove in on top of me into a cycle lane, close enough for me to land a right thump on the car door... the driver had the cheek to accuse me of criminal damage:eek::eek: D***head!!

rolexeagle1

I proceeded slowly and with care in traffic that was at a standstill, was looking and did not see the cyclist

dan1895

Obviously not looking well enough. Take your medicine, admit you were wrong and put it down to experience.

It wasn't me!

srumball wrote: »

Also haven't seen anybody defending the fact that many more cyclists proceed through red lights then motorists, introducing more danger to themselves

Probably because it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you, while calling for cyclists to obey the rules of the road with your "cyclists, amirite?!" opener, told a story about how you drove out across oncoming traffic, in total contravention of those rules, and nearly killed someone. Funny how the salient details are tough to whitewash over, isn't it?

hardCopy

srumball wrote: »

I proceeded slowly and with care in traffic that was at a standstill, was looking and did not see the cyclist

Well now you know not to do it again.

You had a close shave, you could have dented your lovely car and killed a rambunctious cyclist.

TwoShedsJackson

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Lets assume you indicated for a starters?

That would have no bearing on any legalities if he had hit/killed the guy - indicators are 100% optional.

lertsnim

srumball wrote: »

wanna come give me one?

Where was this hard man attitude when your car was being hit and passenger abused.

kylith

If you genuinely, physically, couldn't see the cyclist then I recommend going back to the garage and asking them to put a mirror at that entrance, so that cars crossing the road to enter it can clearly see the cycle lane, as in its current state it appears to be a death trap