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AFL Fantasy Elite (Boards.ie Draft)

  • 21-01-2013 11:44am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭


    LEAGUE SETTINGS:

    Minimum league entrants is 6. So we will have one league for 6, 8 or 10 players. We will split to 2 leagues for 12, 14, 16 & 20 players.

    League Type:
    • Option 1: League with finals.
    • Option 2: League only.
    Also, we can have rolling lockouts (before each game) or fixed lockouts (before first game only.)

    Might be a silly question, but we can choose to have captain score double or standard points.

    DRAFT SETTINGS:

    Draft Setup:
    • Option 1: A live draft with all members of the league selecting turn by turn. Set your own time that each coach gets to make their pick – ranging from 60 seconds to no limit at all – take it in turns at your convenience when each coach makes a pick.
    • Option 2: An auto draft, where teams are automatically selected based on each fan’s preferred pre-draft selections.
    Draft Order:
    • Option 1: Snake draft, where the order is reversed each round
    • Option 2: Linear draft, where the order stays the same each round
    • Option 3: Banzai draft, where the order reverses in round two, stays the same in round three, and then continues as per the snake draft
    TEAM SETTINGS:

    There are 7 different team structures to choose from in AFL Fantasy Elite, with 12, 15 or 22 man squads as follows: (D-M-R-F)
    1. 2-2-1-2 (5 bench)
    2. 2-3-1-2 (4 bench)
    3. 2-2-1-2 (8 bench)
    4. 2-3-1-2 (7 bench)
    5. 3-3-1-3 (5 bench)
    6. 3-4-1-3 (4 bench)
    7. 5-6-2-5 (4 bench)
    Once you’ve filled your on-field team via the draft, the next selections are your bench selections, with a ‘floating’ bench where, if you choose to activate the Auto-Emergency option during your league setup, your lowest scoring bench player can replace anyone who doesn’t play from your on-field starting side.

    TRADE SETTINGS:

    When a player is cut from an AFL Fantasy Elite team in your league or unselected originally, he is added to the 'waiver pool', where he can be picked up by other teams.

    The waiver order can be customised as either reverse ladder order or last pick option, where the waiver order is never reset and coaches go to the bottom of the priority order after each successive pick.

    You can also try to improve your team by trading with other coaches in your league – you can nominate a player to trade and then watch the offers roll in. Or, make a direct trade offer for a player on another squad.
    As per the fully customisable nature of AFL Fantasy Elite, the commissioner gets to decide how trades are approved:
    1. By veto vote from a percentage of coaches in the league
    2. Approved solely by the commissioner, or
    3. A free-for-all style system
    Commissioners can start creating leagues and inviting players to join their leagues on February 1, with the draft process able to be set from February 11.

    So if everyone who is interested can copy/paste below with your preferences and maybe suggestion for the league name too?

    LEAGUE SETTINGS:

    League Type: Option 1 / Option 2
    Lockouts: Rolling / Fixed
    Captain Points: Standard / Double

    DRAFT SETTINGS:

    Draft Setup: Option 1 / Option 2
    Draft Order: Option 1 / Option 2 / Option 3

    TEAM SETTINGS:
    1. 2-2-1-2 (5 bench)
    2. 2-3-1-2 (4 bench)
    3. 2-2-1-2 (8 bench)
    4. 2-3-1-2 (7 bench)
    5. 3-3-1-3 (5 bench)
    6. 3-4-1-3 (4 bench)
    7. 5-6-2-5 (4 bench)
    TRADE SETTINGS:

    Waiver Order: Reverse Ladder / Last Pick
    Trade Approval: Option 1 / Option 2 / Option 3


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    LEAGUE SETTINGS:

    League Type: Option 1
    Lockouts: Fixed
    Captain Points: Standard

    DRAFT SETTINGS:

    Draft Setup: Option 2
    Draft Order: Option 1

    TEAM SETTINGS:

    2-3-1-2 (7 bench)

    TRADE SETTINGS:

    Waiver Order: Last Pick
    Trade Approval: Option 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    LEAGUE SETTINGS:

    League Type: Option 1
    Lockouts: Fixed
    Captain Points: Standard

    DRAFT SETTINGS:

    Draft Setup: Option 2
    Draft Order: Option 1

    TEAM SETTINGS:

    2-3-1-2 (7 bench)

    TRADE SETTINGS:

    Waiver Order: Last Pick
    Trade Approval: Option 1

    I'd be happy with all of above. Obviously the live draft would be great fun but the logistics of getting all of us together at same time across time zones etc would be painful.

    Jeez, doing the two teams in DT and same in SC is gonna be time consuming this year, Friday afternoons is gonna be a write-off at work!

    Cheers for your efforts in setting up and administering the leagues again this year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    LEAGUE SETTINGS:

    League Type: Option 1
    Lockouts: Fixed
    Captain Points: Standard

    DRAFT SETTINGS:

    Draft Setup: Option 1
    Draft Order: Option 1

    TEAM SETTINGS:

    5-6-2-5 (4 bench)

    TRADE SETTINGS:

    Waiver Order: Last Pick
    Trade Approval: Option 1


    A live draft wouldn't be *that* difficult if it was done as an Irish morning/Oz evening type thing or vise versa.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    A live draft wouldn't be *that* difficult if it was done as an Irish morning/Oz evening type thing or vise versa.

    Agreed. I think it would add to the fun of it, if everyone was on board. Off a quick glance, possibly holding the draft on Sat, Feb 16th - (Dublin - 10am) (Perth - 6pm) (Melbourne - 9pm).

    It would probably be a good idea to have your draft order (wishlist) done before this as well so we can run either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    ^^Sounds good to me. Ill be back in Perth by that stage.

    LEAGUE SETTINGS:


    League Type: Option 1
    Lockouts: Fixed
    Captain Points: Standard

    DRAFT SETTINGS:

    Draft Setup: Option 1
    Draft Order: Option 2

    TEAM SETTINGS:

    3-4-1-3 (4 bench)

    TRADE SETTINGS:

    Waiver Order: Last Pick
    Trade Approval: Option 1



    How is the draft order decided?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Mackman wrote: »
    How is the draft order decided?

    I was thinking of doing something similar to what they did in the soccer forum. Somebody not taking part in the draft can use and post the results of an online random order generator. Think that's the fairest way?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    LEAGUE SETTINGS:

    League Type: Option 1
    Lockouts: Fixed
    Captain Points: Standard

    DRAFT SETTINGS:

    Draft Setup: Option 2 - Auto
    Draft Order: Option 1 - Snake

    TEAM SETTINGS:
    1. 5-6-2-5 (4 bench)
    TRADE SETTINGS:

    Waiver Order: Last Pick
    Trade Approval: Option 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Mackman wrote: »
    How is the draft order decided?

    I'd guess that it's randomly generated by the afl website just prior to the draft taking place. That's the way it works in NFL fantasy drafts anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman



    Agreed. I think it would add to the fun of it, if everyone was on board. Off a quick glance, possibly holding the draft on Sat, Feb 16th - (Dublin - 10am) (Perth - 6pm) (Melbourne - 9pm).

    It would probably be a good idea to have your draft order (wishlist) done before this as well so we can run either.

    I just realised that the first round of the NAB cup is on that weekend. I'll be busy watching Freo belting the Eagles that day :)

    Any other day is good for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Mackman wrote: »
    I just realised that the first round of the NAB cup is on that weekend. I'll be busy watching Freo belting the Eagles that day :)

    Any other day is good for me

    Typical Failmantle fan, looking forward to preseason victories.

    Better than end of season disappointment though I guess :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Mackman wrote: »
    I just realised that the first round of the NAB cup is on that weekend. I'll be busy watching Freo belting the Eagles that day :)

    Any other day is good for me

    26373538.jpg

    We will move it back to the 23rd so. Will give a little more security against potential nab injuries, such a s LeCras last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭shanemkelly


    Ooh... not sure I should commit to a 'Draft style' comp. I'd be pi$$ed off for the season if I missed a deadline.
    Can I vote for a 'same as last year' style league?:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Ooh... not sure I should commit to a 'Draft style' comp. I'd be pi$$ed off for the season if I missed a deadline.
    Can I vote for a 'same as last year' style league?:o

    We are running the standard league as we did last year, and Winter has set up the SuperCoach one as well.

    We are just adding the draft league this year, as it is free to join, for anyone that might be interested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    26373538.jpg

    We will move it back to the 23rd so. Will give a little more security against potential nab injuries, such a s LeCras last year.

    Optimism is all we have at this stage :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    OK, thus far we can set the following rules in stone as it seems to be in general agreement:

    LEAGUE SETTINGS:

    League Type: Option 1
    Lockouts: Fixed
    Captain Points: Standard

    TRADE SETTINGS:

    Waiver Order: Last Pick
    Trade Approval: Option 1


    The following are starting to look the prefered:

    DRAFT SETTINGS:

    Draft Setup: Option 2 (Auto-Draft) *
    Draft Order: Option 1 (Snake Order)


    No clear solution in the team lineup, but it looks like the best options are either:
    1. 3-4-1-3 (4 bench)
    2. 5-6-2-5 (4 bench)
    So far the following have submitted interest in taking part:
    DoctorGonzo08; jackbhoy; Xavi6; Mackman; Mr. Guappa; SSK

    So we have our minimum 6 entrants for the league. If everyone can confirm they would be available on Saturday 23rd Feburary - (Dublin - 10am) (Perth - 6pm) (Melbourne - 9pm) we will go ahead with the live draft.

    However, like said previously, prepare your ranked picks beforehand in case we have to go with the auto draft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Yeah can't do that day, I've a football trip up north overnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    I don't mind when the draft is on.. if I make it great but if not then no big deal. I was for the biggest squads possible, and would be even more so with just 6 or 8 teams. No point having small squads where just the top 20 players at a position are all that's involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Yeah can't do that day, I've a football trip up north overnight.
    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    I don't mind when the draft is on.. if I make it great but if not then no big deal. I was for the biggest squads possible, and would be even more so with just 6 or 8 teams. No point having small squads where just the top 20 players at a position are all that's involved.

    OK, 5-6-2-5 (4 bench) it is then. And we will go with the auto-draft unless stated otherwise. I will set up the league next week and send out the invitations to the six.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    Any go on this Doc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Actually setting it up tonight. One thing I've just realised is that if we are to have a finals series we'll need a minimum of 8 teams. The option isn't available to 6 or less. So are there another 2 who might be interested, or do we do without?

    On reading up a bit on it, I was thinking of starting the league from Round 2, playing each other 3 times, and finishing on Round 19, just before the finals for the DT League. It will also allow us to watch all of the NAB Cup and hopefully avoid picking any of the injuries that come out of it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Actually setting it up tonight. One thing I've just realised is that if we are to have a finals series we'll need a minimum of 8 teams. The option isn't available to 6 or less. So are there another 2 who might be interested, or do we do without?

    If it's only 6-8 teams might be best to just leave it as a league format? Regular season becomes pointless if all teams qualify for a finals series anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    GOing to set this up tonight and send the invites around. One final thing I want to get everyone's opinion on is the fixtures/start. Would you prefer doing 4 repeat fixtures and start from Round 1, or 3 repeat fixtures and start Round 6? If we go with a Round 1 start, I'll set the auto draft for Sun 17th March (Paddy's Day), if we go with a Round 6 start, I'll set the auto draft for Sun 21st April. Either draft will give you a week before start to tinker with teams, and should eliminate any injuries wildcards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    GOing to set this up tonight and send the invites around. One final thing I want to get everyone's opinion on is the fixtures/start. Would you prefer doing 4 repeat fixtures and start from Round 1, or 3 repeat fixtures and start Round 6? If we go with a Round 1 start, I'll set the auto draft for Sun 17th March (Paddy's Day), if we go with a Round 6 start, I'll set the auto draft for Sun 21st April. Either draft will give you a week before start to tinker with teams, and should eliminate any injuries wildcards.

    Start from Round 1. Don't see any benefit in waiting until week 6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    GOing to set this up tonight and send the invites around. One final thing I want to get everyone's opinion on is the fixtures/start. Would you prefer doing 4 repeat fixtures and start from Round 1, or 3 repeat fixtures and start Round 6? If we go with a Round 1 start, I'll set the auto draft for Sun 17th March (Paddy's Day), if we go with a Round 6 start, I'll set the auto draft for Sun 21st April. Either draft will give you a week before start to tinker with teams, and should eliminate any injuries wildcards.

    I really don't mind tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Is that draft time 9pm Irish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Is that draft time 9pm Irish?

    No I think it is 9pm EDT. Left it till the Sunday evening so if anyone wanted to make changes to their draft selection after the NAB Cup Grand Final they could.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    If you get anyone else showing an interest, I'll stick my name down too to keep numbers even. Just been flat out the last few weeks and didnt want to commit if I couldnt give the time to look after squads, but think I'll be alright to do so now. No problem if no one else shows up though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    Im going to get creamed with this draft. So friggin hard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Mackman wrote: »
    Im going to get creamed with this draft. So friggin hard

    I know. The first 50 is easy enough, but from there to the 132 is a right pain. But if it was easy there would be no point in taking part :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    I'm sure everyone is on top of it, but if you have any of these guys on your draft list you might want to rethink.

    Injuries:

    Nic Naitanui
    Groin - Lingering concerns. He’s aiming to play Round 1, but may miss up to 2 months of 2013

    Dale Thomas
    Ankle - Surgery before Christmas saw a delayed start to the preseason and may not be fit for Round 1

    Jack Trengove
    Ankle - Doubts remain over his fitness come Round 1

    Brendan Whitecross
    Knee - Ruptured ACL in 2012 finals series, expected to return later in the season

    David Zaharakis
    Quad - Reinjured at training and slated to miss part of the NAB cup. Monitor

    Chad Cornes
    Knee - Unlikely starter Round 1 after he underwent surgery on a cyst in his knee

    Dom Tyson
    Knee - Injured his PCL in late 2012 and is slated to miss the first half of the 2013 season

    Nathan Foley
    Achilles - Has restarted training, but is unlikely to play early in the season at this stage

    Brodie Smith
    Broken collarbone – Expected to miss 8 weeks, include first month of the season

    Aaron Sandilands
    Hamstring – Injured at training, possibly out until May

    Sharrod Wellingham
    Ankle – A "freak trampoline accident" has put Wellingham in doubt for Round 1

    Hamish McIntosh
    Knee – Surgery early last month has him in doubt for Round 1.

    Nathan Bock
    Broken Leg – Still recovering since the injury in Round 6, 2012 and likely to miss the first few rounds

    Leigh Adams
    Shoulder – Recovering from 'bone-block' surgery, should play late in the NAB Cup

    Robbie Gray
    Knee – Recovering from reconstruction, likely to miss the first few rounds of 2013

    Adam Goodes
    Knee – PCL tear suffered in the Grand Final and has declared himself a "certain starter" for Round 1

    Mitch Clark
    Foot – Lingering concern means he is no certainty for Round 1



    Suspensions:

    Kurt Tippett
    11 Weeks – Suspended as part of off-season scandal, will miss the first half of 2013

    Campbell Brown
    6 Weeks – Convicted of forceful contact on Aiden Riley in Round 23

    Brent Harvey
    6 Weeks – Convicted of two striking offences during last year's Elimination Final

    Heath Scotland
    2 Weeks – Club-imposed suspension for an off-field incident

    Steve Johnson
    1 Week – Convicted of striking Hayden Ballantyne during the NAB Cup

    James Kelly
    1 Week – Convicted of forceful contact on Tendai Mzungu during last year’s Elimination Final

    Leigh Montagna
    1 Week – Convicted of rough conduct against Andrew Walker in Round 23


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    Mackman wrote: »
    Im going to get creamed with this draft. So friggin hard

    Jeez, I haven't even looked at it yet. Think I am going to be reliant on a lot of free agent trading after the draft!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Really starting to overthink this. I thought the autodraft would be easier than this. But I have no idea how to set up my priority to enable my first 3 picks. To get a captain in the first pick, then a back, then a forward. But if someone dosen't pick one of my six captain picks,it throws the rest of the draft up in the air. Thinking about it now, it's no wonder everyone prefers the live draft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    Captains?? I haven't even thought of that yet, I was just going to put the best player I get as the captain. Maybe we should try and organise the live draft again? This Saturday maybe? Most will probably be busy on Paddy's Day

    Edit: I just had a quick look there and we didn't choose the captain option. So no captains


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Mackman wrote: »
    Captains?? I haven't even thought of that yet, I was just going to put the best player I get as the captain. Maybe we should try and organise the live draft again? This Saturday maybe? Most will probably be busy on Paddy's Day

    Edit: I just had a quick look there and we didn't choose the captain option. So no captains

    Sorry, no captains in the game. I just meant your captain pick in terms of the best player, ie. Swan, Ablett, Pendlebury, Cotchin, Watson, Kennedy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Sorry, no captains in the game. I just meant your captain pick in terms of the best player, ie. Swan, Ablett, Pendlebury, Cotchin, Watson, Kennedy.

    Only 3 of those 6 players are in my top 6 so that would be your plans well up in the air!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Only 3 in that list are in mine too :p. But that's the point I'm making. If you try to guess other players picks, or try to get the type of poisiton in each round is near impossible. As was said earlier, there will be alot of free agent drafting very quickly after the draft to get some shape to the team. Luck might have alot of luck to do with the auto draft!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    News this morning that Leuenberger is down with an achillies injury and will miss NAB Finals. That'll be enough for me to stay clear of him this season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    News this morning that Leuenberger is down with an achillies injury and will miss NAB Finals. That'll be enough for me to stay clear of him this season.

    Not unexpected but a pity as he could've been a great bargain as second ruck..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    jackbhoy wrote: »
    Not unexpected but a pity as he could've been a great bargain as second ruck..

    I know. Was perfect fit in my team up until now. With him, Jacobs Currie and Rowe, could have Cox in the Forwards to start then switch to Ruck and Cash in on the Rucks to upgrade the Mids.

    Not many decent cheap options that are worthwhile now. Thinking of having a gamble on Zac Smith as a POD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Christ, Brock McLean at 21 and Brad Ebert at 23 by default :eek:

    Get to the bottom of my wishlist :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Christ, Brock McLean at 21 and Brad Ebert at 23 by default :eek:

    Get to the bottom of my wishlist :mad:

    I'd leave them there if I were you, or possibly move them higher. It would be tactical on your part, by picking them early you would ruin my picks 140+ :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭SSK


    Is the draft for this in an hour?? Absolutely zero research done so will be picking on instinct only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    SSK wrote: »
    Is the draft for this in an hour?? Absolutely zero research done so will be picking on instinct only

    Yep, Auto Draft is from 9:00 till 9:11 AEST.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    SSK wrote: »
    Is the draft for this in an hour?? Absolutely zero research done so will be picking on instinct only
    It's an auto-draft. Just set up your preference list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 948 ✭✭✭SSK


    Cheers lads. Set my first 50 or so, will have to fiddle around with it after the draft then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    Don't see any free agent players available, am I missing something??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    jackbhoy wrote: »
    Don't see any free agent players available, am I missing something??

    They are all under waivers at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭jackbhoy


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    They are all under waivers at the moment.

    Ok, I assumed we could replace duds with free agents straight away. See the waiver thing opens at 4am Wednesday, is that adjustable?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mackman


    I did pretty well out of that, im very surprised. I might need to do a couple of trades, but overall im pretty pleased.


    I got D. Swan too :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,995 ✭✭✭DoctorGonzo08


    Quite pleased but just a little tweaking to do. ENded up with:

    B. Goddard / H. Scotland / J. Grimes / D. Heppell / H. Hartlett
    S. Pendlebury / J. Redden / L. Shuey / A. Carrazzo / D. Wells / D. Zaharakis
    B. McEvoy / D. Hale
    L. Franklin / T. Rockliff / J. Lewis / C. Sylvia / T. Cloke

    B. Ebert / A. Gaff / M. Duncan / T. Mzungu

    Have to say I couldn't be happier with my Backline. Also have high hopes for Shuey & Gaff this year to step up.


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