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Sky Unlimited and Sky Talk

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I am not throttled this evening!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,036 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Steady connection of 59ms ping and 2.97MB - 2.98MB download speed while with Vodafone.

    Checked about 6pm this evening with Sky and got 35mb ping and 3.38MB download speed.

    Just checked there and got 62ms ping and 1.80MB download speed! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    piotrasd wrote: »
    Hi, there is any download allowance limit ?? (SKY)

    Im on UPC 100mb but 500GB (where download and upload is counted together) is little small for me.

    Or maybe somebody know in ireleand some other good provider with bigger download allowance or no limit ??\

    Thanks for answer

    Well, UPC are miles ahead of any other broadband provider here. You would be mad to ditch it. You should try and negotiate a higher limit with them, at least cost to you at least.

    Edit: I see on the UPC site that the 100mbs tarriff now has unlimited downloads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,019 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Not trying to jinx myself but my speeds have veen pretty constant with Sky since I switched, roughly the same as with Vodafone.

    Download seems to be constantly around 5.2. On that basic enough download speed earlier, i was able to download a large torrent and stream a film on Netflix in HD simultaneously.

    Heres a test I just did:

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    Some stats from my hub:

    Broadband Link Downstream Upstream
    Connection Speed 6141 kbps 508 kbps
    Line Attenuation 46.0 dB 22.9 dB
    Noise Margin 5.9 dB 25.25 dB

    Noise Margin right on the limit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭naughto


    iam the same getting the same as i was with vd

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Ronan H


    I do wish people would wait until after the ten day settling period before they pass judgement on their speeds and tear up their contracts. That's all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭Skidfingers


    I play online gaming so regularly talking to people in UK, and the majority of them have between 20-50mb and even upto 100mb broadband!

    Price could be almost half what we're paying for Sky and we think that's very cheap compared to eircom , Vodafone etc.

    Howcome our lines can't handle speed like them? :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭BrianHal


    I play online gaming so regularly talking to people in UK, and the majority of them have between 20-50mb and even upto 100mb broadband!

    Price could be almost half what we're paying for Sky and we think that's very cheap compared to eircom , Vodafone etc.

    Howcome our lines can't handle speed like them? :(

    Without turning into a rant... if the government did t sell the phone lines along with the service provider part of eircom all those years ago, then we may have had investment in the national BB infrastructure. For years, for whatever reasons, eircom hasn't put money into the actual wiring that provides the service. As such, we're all rodgered until either (a) eircom starts in invest in physical infra, (b) someone else starts laying copper or fibre or (c) the government starts to invest in the wiring. Now which of those do you think is actually going to happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I play online gaming so regularly talking to people in UK, and the majority of them have between 20-50mb and even upto 100mb broadband!

    Price could be almost half what we're paying for Sky and we think that's very cheap compared to eircom , Vodafone etc.

    Howcome our lines can't handle speed like them? :(

    Can you link to these 100Mbit packages fr €5 per month please?

    There are plenty people in the UK on dodgey DSL lines too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭lockup35


    Are the people seeing bad ping times and download speeds in the evening on NGB exchanges?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    lockup35 wrote: »
    Are the people seeing bad ping times and download speeds in the evening on NGB exchanges?


    Not really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    So my order with Sky was accepted on 18th Jan and the hub arrived early last week with a live date of 4th Feb. Then on Thursday I got an e-mail stating that my order had been accepted on 31st January :(

    I called to find out what had happened and they told me that my original order had been rejected. It was rejected because the customer name field on the order system can only take 20 characters and longer entries are rejected.

    I found this odd as it's not as if its the early days of the trial. I understand that it is a trial designed to find any problems with the service when it goes properly live but did it really take that long to discover this particular issue ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    greendom wrote: »
    So my order with Sky was accepted on 18th Jan and the hub arrived early last week with a live date of 4th Feb. Then on Thursday I got an e-mail stating that my order had been accepted on 31st January :(

    I called to find out what had happened and they told me that my original order had been rejected. It was rejected because the customer name field on the order system can only take 20 characters and longer entries are rejected.

    I found this odd as it's not as if its the early days of the trial. I understand that it is a trial designed to find any problems with the service when it goes properly live but did it really take that long to discover this particular issue ?

    I had something like that happen as well. When I queried it, Sky told me it was a first name mismatch, so Voda's system rejected the port request.


  • Registered Users Posts: 334 ✭✭Skidfingers


    BrianHal wrote: »

    Without turning into a rant... if the government did t sell the phone lines along with the service provider part of eircom all those years ago, then we may have had investment in the national BB infrastructure. For years, for whatever reasons, eircom hasn't put money into the actual wiring that provides the service. As such, we're all rodgered until either (a) eircom starts in invest in physical infra, (b) someone else starts laying copper or fibre or (c) the government starts to invest in the wiring. Now which of those do you think is actually going to happen?


    Yeah thanks , I presumed it was something like that. **** this country anyway!!! :(

    Never said anything about £5.... I've often saw broadband from £7.50 a month for over 8mb I believe tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Yeah thanks , I presumed it was something like that. **** this country anyway!!! :(

    Never said anything about £5.... I've often saw broadband from £7.50 a month for over 8mb I believe tho

    Broadband only from Sky cost £7.50 a month for up to 8 meg and unlimited downloads. The customer also has to pay around £13 line rental that is charged by BT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Harry Deerpark


    The Sky hub is completely useless if you want to upload torrents. It won't allow people to access my uTorrent so I can seed my torrents. It's possible to port-forward but I couldn't get it working, I rang Sky there and customer support they can't help because they don't want to accept responsibility for what's shared, but told me to do some research on port-forwarding by Googling it. Back to square one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭BrianHal


    The Sky hub is completely useless if you want to upload torrents. It won't allow people to access my uTorrent so I can seed my torrents. It's possible to port-forward but I couldn't get it working, I rang Sky there and customer support they can't help because they don't want to accept responsibility for what's shared, but told me to do some research on port-forwarding by Googling it. Back to square one.

    Am I understanding you correctly when you say that you rang Sky Customer Support to ask them why your torrent uploads aren't fully or correctly available to any joe soap on the internet to copy from you?

    Or did I not read the post correctly??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Harry Deerpark


    BrianHal wrote: »
    Am I understanding you correctly when you say that you rang Sky Customer Support to ask them why your torrent uploads aren't fully or correctly available to any joe soap on the internet to copy from you?

    Or did I not read the post correctly??

    Well, broadband support. I asked him how come people cannot connect to my uTorrent client so I can seed to them. I know it's something got to do with the firewall and I mentioned port-forwarding to him, but he said he can't help because they don't want to be responsible for assisting their customers when file-sharing, but he told it possible and should look it up on Google.

    Hopefully some smarter than me at routers/hubs/torrents will have it figured out within the next 14-16 months, or I'm going back to eircom in 2014.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,319 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Harry Deerpark, you are either very naive or just trolling. Those type of comments aren't something we want to see here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,319 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    I was supposed to be activated on 31 January and when I wasnt I sent an email and got a reply yesterday saying that their system showed i was scheduled for activating yesterday but it could be as late as midnight but to go ahead and set up the hub.

    I got all hooked up there an hour ago and so far so good. The speeds are in line with what I was getting with Vodafone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 331 ✭✭Harry Deerpark


    muffler wrote: »
    Harry Deerpark, you are either very naive or just trolling. Those type of comments aren't something we want to see here

    If you think that qualifies as "trolling", then you are naive. I'm just letting yo knowu the hub won't seed my torrents. There are many peolpe like me who use private tracker and need to seed their torrents to a 1:1 ratio or they'll get the boot off the website.

    Pl;ease explain why these comments are not wanted here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,319 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    I have reported this and I'll leave it with the forum mods to decide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,354 ✭✭✭naughto


    If you think that qualifies as "trolling", then you are naive. I'm just letting yo knowu the hub won't seed my torrents. There are many peolpe like me who use private tracker and need to seed their torrents to a 1:1 ratio or they'll get the boot off the website.

    Pl;ease explain why these comments are not wanted here?

    dude the 1st thing is you do not talk about fight club

    or in this case torrents.i cant believe you rang sky bb asking them about how to set up some thing that will help you download ilegal media.

    its not hard set up port forwarding or better yet get a seed box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭MMAGirl


    naughto wrote: »
    dude the 1st thing is you do not talk about fight club

    or in this case torrents.i cant believe you rang sky bb asking them about how to set up some thing that will help you download ilegal media.

    its not hard set up port forwarding or better yet get a seed box

    Exactly what illegal files was he downloading. Or are the ones he is downloading even illegal?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    No all torrents are illegal.
    Plenty of game mods,even game patches are released via torrents.
    Pisses me off when people hear the word torrents automatically assume illegal content :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,319 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Dcully wrote: »
    Pisses me off when people hear the word torrents automatically assume illegal content :rolleyes:
    Is that directed at me dude?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    Anyone else getting really slow downloads tonight. In the passed 2 years i have had 10mb vodafone connection that has been unbelievably consistent. Switched to Sky about 8 or 9 days ago and the 10mb connection has been fine until today. All day my downloads wont go above 3mb.

    WTF?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    muffler wrote: »
    Is that directed at me dude?

    Before i answer that ill ask you are you suggesting the chap is downloading illegal content because he asked for advice on seeding a torrent?

    If your answer is yes then yeah im directing it at you and anyone else who automatically assumes he is.
    If not then no its not directed at you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭robk24


    Agreed not all torrents are illegal..

    Most of the racing games i subscribe to are all shared via torrents....


  • Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭BrianHal


    robk24 wrote: »
    Agreed not all torrents are illegal..

    Most of the racing games i subscribe to are all shared via torrents....

    What's the story with racing games on torrents? These are for PC ya, or consoles?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,319 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    Dcully wrote: »
    Before i answer that ill ask you are you suggesting the chap is downloading illegal content because he asked for advice on seeding a torrent?

    If your answer is yes then yeah im directing it at you and anyone else who automatically assumes he is.
    If not then no its not directed at you.
    Im not suggesting anything. When Sky (who he pays money to) wouldn't entertain him for specific reasons then I dont see why Boards and its user base should assist with his activities.

    So please dont go making wild sweeping comments again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,544 ✭✭✭Hogzy


    muffler wrote: »
    Im not suggesting anything. When Sky (who he pays money to) wouldn't entertain him for specific reasons then I dont see why Boards and its user base should assist with his activities.

    So please dont go making wild sweeping comments again.

    What a stupid thing for a mod to say, and remember you are not a mod of this forum. If that was the attitude and ethos of the forum then 90% of the "Seeking Help" threads would be of no use. Tech support for most companies will only help with the very basic faults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    And now back to Sky Unlimited and Sky Talk!!
    My speed is the same as it was with UTV (sh!T). Still within the 10 day testing period and havent gone over 0.8 meg. Not good so far:mad:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    muffler wrote: »
    So please dont go making wild sweeping comments again.


    You reporting the chap for a using a torrent is a pretty wild move to be fair.

    Please tell me how my comment is a "wild sweeping one"
    I merely educated you that not all torrents are illegal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 ryanihan


    Would cancel sky bb now if you can they are working off eircom line and are painfully slow :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    ryanihan wrote: »
    Would cancel sky bb now if you can they are working off eircom line and are painfully slow :(

    Are you within your 1st 10 days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    Dcully wrote: »
    You reporting the chap for a using a torrent is a pretty wild move to be fair.

    Please tell me how my comment is a "wild sweeping one"
    I merely educated you that not all torrents are illegal.

    In fairness mods are quick enough to infract people for going off topic and I dont see why you should be allowed to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    And now back to Sky Unlimited and Sky Talk!!
    My speed is the same as it was with UTV (sh!T). Still within the 10 day testing period and havent gone over 0.8 meg. Not good so far:mad:

    What speeds did Sky indicate you would get with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭keith_d99


    After a couple of relatively throttle free days - back in full throttle mode tonight.

    Pattern seems to be: pings rise by 5ms
    Download speeds drop by nearly 4mb (5.75 down to 1.5)

    Day 9 of Sky BB by the way


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    greendom wrote: »
    What speeds did Sky indicate you would get with them.

    They said 1.5. I used to get this with utv until I went NGB then it went down to .8meg.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,319 ✭✭✭✭muffler


    And now back to Sky Unlimited and Sky Talk!!
    My speed is the same as it was with UTV (sh!T). Still within the 10 day testing period and havent gone over 0.8 meg. Not good so far:mad:
    Fairly similar with me. Im on day 1 and only set it up about 8 hours ago and as posted earlier I was getting the same speed as I was getting with VF. Just tested it there now again and its still the same.

    So long as it doesnt drop any Im happy enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,019 ✭✭✭✭adox


    ryanihan wrote: »
    Would cancel sky bb now if you can they are working off eircom line and are painfully slow :(

    And what will you do? Go back to Eircom for the same speed for 3 times the price?


    Has anyone with download speed issues been checking their noise margins? If they are above six it leaves room for tweaking.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully



    In fairness mods are quick enough to infract people for going off topic and I dont see why you should be allowed to.

    Take a chill pill,just a tad over reacting there mate.
    Feel free to click report if it makes you feel better :), I think you will find back seat modding isnt exactly welcomed either but yeah best to stay on topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    adox wrote: »
    And what will you do? Go back to Eircom for the same speed for 3 times the price?


    Has anyone with download speed issues been checking their noise margins? If they are above six it leaves room for tweaking.

    Can you help me with that? I will post it here if you can review it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    Dcully wrote: »
    Take a chill pill,just a tad over reacting there mate.
    Feel free to click report if it makes you feel better :), I think you will find back seat modding isnt exactly welcomed either but yeah best to stay on topic.

    Whatever.... the old back seat modding get out of jail free card played!!!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    adox wrote: »
    And what will you do? Go back to Eircom for the same speed for 3 times the price?


    Has anyone with download speed issues been checking their noise margins? If they are above six it leaves room for tweaking.


    My stats are fine, every night about 8-10 pm speeds drop from 7.5 mb to about 2-4 mb speeds.
    Sky rang a friend of mine on the same exchange as me on Friday to follow up a complaint about this issue and they told him they will be doing nothing about it as the issue is with our exchange and until eircom do something sky cant do a thing about it :mad:

    Furthermore i spoke to a tech about the issue on Thursday and he told me the 10 day testing is nonsense and only applies to UK customers and that the people we spoke to when ordering etc are merely saying what they say to UK customers.
    It makes sense tbh as im seeing the exact same speeds since day one and im 9 days in now.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 14,715 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dcully


    Whatever.... the old back seat modding get out of jail free card played!!!

    It has nothing to do with a get our of jail card.
    Exactly what is your agenda that you continue to derail the thread?

    If you have an issue with me pulling somebody up for practically accusing someone of downloading illegal content simply because they use torrent software then report me and quit your trolling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    Dcully wrote: »
    My stats are fine, every night about 8-10 pm speeds drop from 7.5 mb to about 2-4 mb speeds.
    Sky rang a friend of mine on the same exchange as me on Friday to follow up a complaint about this issue and they told him they will be doing nothing about it as the issue is with our exchange and until eircom do something sky cant do a thing about it :mad:

    Furthermore i spoke to a tech about the issue on Thursday and he told me the 10 day testing is nonsense and only applies to UK customers and that the people we spoke to when ordering etc are merely saying what they say to UK customers.
    It makes sense tbh as im seeing the exact same speeds since day one and im 9 days in now.

    I switched because I was only getting .8 megs since I went NGB with UTV. They said my line was profiled at .8 meg and thats as good as its gets. I switched to sky because I read they had their own engineers and i thought they might fix my line issues. So it seems I have the same sh!t different price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭brian ireland


    Dcully wrote: »
    It has nothing to do with a get our of jail card.
    Exactly what is your agenda that you continue to derail the thread?

    quit your trolling.
    For god sake stop..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,019 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Dcully wrote: »
    My stats are fine, every night about 8-10 pm speeds drop from 7.5 mb to about 2-4 mb speeds.
    Sky rang a friend of mine on the same exchange as me on Friday to follow up a complaint about this issue and they told him they will be doing nothing about it as the issue is with our exchange and until eircom do something sky cant do a thing about it :mad:

    Furthermore i spoke to a tech about the issue on Thursday and he told me the 10 day testing is nonsense and only applies to UK customers and that the people we spoke to when ordering etc are merely saying what they say to UK customers.
    It makes sense tbh as im seeing the exact same speeds since day one and im 9 days in now.

    I presume you were having the same issues with your old provider as well then?
    Either way a bit of a pain in the hole for you. At least, if your service isnt any worse on Sky you are saving some money for the same unreliable service.

    My line can only seem to handle very moderate speeds but they are consistent throughout the day. Never had a problem on that front with Vodafone and Sky have been consistent for me from day 1.

    Its a joke tbh the service that some of the excahnges around the country provide.


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