The Football Tips Thread IV

Cavehill Red

Avfctom wrote: »

Gutted lads had a nice bet on ballotelli anytime milan win

Ballotelli scored
Milan look like winning

Yet hills say because ballotelli didunt start despite scoring anytime the bet will be void

He scored anytime and his team won. Take it to arbitration if they don't pay out.

seanhynes

Jeez that's some joke.. Theys have taken that bet as a loser if he didn't score u know

Higgytash

Avfctom wrote: »

Gutted lads had a nice bet on ballotelli anytime milan win

Ballotelli scored
Milan look like winning

Yet hills say because ballotelli didunt start despite scoring anytime the bet will be void

That is an absolute Fücking joke man, do not let them get away with that... The Bet is a winner you didnt say if he would start or not, If you bet on ballotelli anytime they have to honor it.

I REMEMBER DOING BETS WHERE I HAD A PLAYER TO SCORE ANYTIME AND THEY DIDN'T START AND CAME OFF THE BENCH WITH LIKE 10 MINS TO GO, AND BECAUSE HE PLAYED LIKE A FEW MINUTES EVEN THE BET STOOD AND THEY KEPT MY MONEY.

Had Ballotelli not scored when he came on there isnt a fücking hope of them voiding the bet they cert of kept the money.

This Fücking rages me mate dont let em get away with it :mad: they are fücking crooks the lot of them....

#rantover

Blatter

Avfctom wrote: »

Gutted lads had a nice bet on ballotelli anytime milan win

Ballotelli scored
Milan look like winning

Yet hills say because ballotelli didunt start despite scoring anytime the bet will be void

Hills do stipulate with that bet that if the player doesn't start, the bet is void. This is made clear enough when you place the bet.

If he had come off the bench, and didn't score, the bet would be voided. Likewise if he comes off the bench and scores, as has happened, the bet is rightfully voided. Can't have it both ways.

Cavehill Red

Perhaps it should be settled as a straight Milan win?

Blatter

Higgytash wrote: »

I REMEMBER DOING BETS WHERE I HAD A PLAYER TO SCORE ANYTIME AND THEY DIDN'T START AND CAME OFF THE BENCH WITH LIKE 10 MINS TO GO, AND BECAUSE HE PLAYED LIKE A FEW MINUTES EVEN THE BET STOOD AND THEY KEPT MY MONEY.

Maybe because there was no stipulation over whether the player starts or not?

On a side note, I think you've only yourself to blame if you back a player to score without knowing the lineups. I think people who do it are crazy with the exception of certain circumstances like when you're getting a really nice price on a player that you're 90% sure will start and you think the price will shorten by the time the lineups are announced.

Blatter

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Perhaps it should be settled as a straight Milan win?

It wasn't the bet though. I think that sort of thing would be a gesture of goodwill, but I wouldn't expect them to do it at all, nor have I ever heard of it.

IMO all bets should have clear guidelines (most do) and those guidelines should be stuck to as strictly and stringently as possible on both sides, otherwise things just get messy.

Smithwicks Man

Don't mean to gloat but I had the same bet and am delighted with it

http://gyazo.com/0385df6a1ad2ad200d0f7e11eb9ffcb1 - (In before "aftertiming") :pac:

Disappointed to hear that about your bet mate but if there is proof that they would void the bet in a similar situation had he not scored then I wouldn't be overly harsh on Hills. Frustrating all the same.

Onwards and upwards. One big bet this weekend for me. Liverpool vs Spurs Over 12 corners @ 23/20

'Pool average 9ish at home, spurs 6.8 away from home. Both teams going for the win. Large stake.

Higgytash

Blatter wrote: »

Maybe because there was no stipulation over whether the player starts or not?

On a side note, I think you've only yourself to blame if you back a player to score without knowing the lineups. I think people who do it are crazy with the exception of certain circumstances like when you're getting a really nice price on a player that you're 90% sure will start and you think the price will shorten by the time the lineups are announced.

I dont think it was stupid backing Ballotelli tonight??? I think everyone expected him to start tonight seeing as he cant play against Barca, quite shocked he didnt to be honest considering his form for Milan.

Anyway I got the jist of it wrong mate, didnt realise Hills had different rules to that bet and they are clearly known.

Smithwicks Man

Blatter wrote: »

Maybe because there was no stipulation over whether the player starts or not?

On a side note, I think you've only yourself to blame if you back a player to score without knowing the lineups. I think people who do it are crazy with the exception of certain circumstances like when you're getting a really nice price on a player that you're 90% sure will start and you think the price will shorten by the time the lineups are announced.

Balotelli was set to start but Allegri felt before the game that starting would be too much because of his shinbone injury so benched him. He was always going to play at least 30+ mins with Pazzini needing a rest for the Barca game and in the end he played 70 mins.

Blatter

Higgytash wrote: »

I dont think it was stupid backing Ballotelli tonight??? I think everyone expected him to start tonight seeing as he cant play against Barca, quite shocked he didnt to be honest considering his form for Milan.

Anyway I got the jist of it wrong mate, didnt realise Hills had different rules to that bet and they are clearly known.

Yeah I can see why you'd have thought he'd start. Read he was carrying a slight injury though, that was probably why he didn't.

Smithwicks Man

Small bet on Cavani anytime scorer vs Chievo @ Evens as well.

Been too long since he's scored

Avfctom

Yh just read through there terms my own fault for not reading beforehand presumed all bookies had similar rules next time i do a wincast il make sure its paddys

I was certain ballotelli would start so thought the 5/2 was a nice price but nevermind my porto milan double softrned the blow on to the next one lads think benteke wincast at 5/1 is worth a bet scores majority of hes goals away from home

Higgytash

5/6 on Both Teams to score Ross County v Celtic is a good bet in my opinion, Celtic just back from their disappointing trip to Italy, will be on a low in my opinion. Ross county on the other hand haven't lost at home in 8 games and have won 7 of last 10 game and draw 3 with no losses, this is the best time Ross County could have hoped to face Celtic who are really leaky at the back away lately.

FatRat

This is probably more coincidence than fact and not very solid at that... but Everton seem to get a lot of penalties in the FA cup. They've gotten 2 in the 5 games they've played. What's more.... Wigan have given away 7 penalties in the premier league so far this season... the most of any team. Baines hardly ever misses a penalty.



I'm after writing that out only to check the odds and discover PP are doing penalty to be scored at 12/5... which are very poor odds. William Hill doing the same for 18/5. Everton to score a penalty are 7/2 on PP. Worth a punt or two imo.

CrabieCrawford

FatRat wrote: »

This is probably more coincidence than fact and not very solid at that... but Everton seem to get a lot of penalties in the FA cup. They've gotten 2 in the 5 games they've played. What's more.... Wigan have given away 7 penalties in the premier league so far this season... the most of any team. Baines hardly ever misses a penalty.



I'm after writing that out only to check the odds and discover PP are doing penalty to be scored at 12/5... which are very poor odds. William Hill doing the same for 18/5. Everton to score a penalty are 7/2 on PP. Worth a punt or two imo.

How about baines anytime @11/4. So pretty much covers Everton to score a penalty if baines starts, and covers his frees and threat from open play

Shane St.

FatRat wrote: »

This is probably more coincidence than fact and not very solid at that... but Everton seem to get a lot of penalties in the FA cup. They've gotten 2 in the 5 games they've played. What's more.... Wigan have given away 7 penalties in the premier league so far this season... the most of any team. Baines hardly ever misses a penalty.



I'm after writing that out only to check the odds and discover PP are doing penalty to be scored at 12/5... which are very poor odds. William Hill doing the same for 18/5. Everton to score a penalty are 7/2 on PP. Worth a punt or two imo.

good shout about the penalties. i was toying with the baines wincast at 7/2 but I'm definitely getting on it now... fingers crossed another good day :D

Cavehill Red

Blatter wrote: »

It wasn't the bet though. I think that sort of thing would be a gesture of goodwill, but I wouldn't expect them to do it at all, nor have I ever heard of it.

IMO all bets should have clear guidelines (most do) and those guidelines should be stuck to as strictly and stringently as possible on both sides, otherwise things just get messy.

I agree it wasn't the bet. It was just a potential compromise solution that could have been proposed in arbitration. But, if it is the case that this particular bookie has their own regulations on this bet and advertise them, then it's likely that arbitration won't go anywhere. I guess thanks is due for letting us all know never ever to put such bets on with that bookie ever again.

Kevwoody

Today's 2 bets;

Villa
City
Everton
Just over 3/1 pp
€8 on

Benteke wincast
Baines wincast
Just under 20/1 pp
€10 on

tip74

Injuries and suspensions:
Valenciennes FC v Lille OSC
Valenciennes FC: Camara (6/0 m), Djuric (0/0 m), Gomis (17/0 m), Le Tallec (20/5 f), Massampu (0/0 f), Traoré (1/0 d), Mater (22/1 d), Sankharé (6/0 d)
Lille OSC: Mendes (9/2 f), Mavuba (15/0 m), Chedjou (25/3 d)
pick 2

Mönchengladbach v Werder Bremen
Mönchengladbach: Marx (17/2 m)
Werder Bremen: Wolf (0/0 g), Prödl (21/1 d), Sokratis (22/1 d), Bargfrede (7/0 m), P. Stevanovic (0/0 m), Akpala (18/1 f), Füllkrug (12/1 f)
pick 1

St Johnstone v Kilmarnock FC
St Johnstone: Cregg (21/1 m), Wright (29/1 d) (doubtful)
Kilmarnock FC: Hay (4/0 d), McKeown (15/0 d), Pascali (24/3 m), McKenzie (18/1 f), Borja Perez (19/3 m)
pick 1

Queen of the South v Ayr United
Queen of the South: McShane (0/0 m)
Ayr United: Moffat (26/15 top scorer), Winters (27/4 f), J. Robertson (16/0 d), McAusland (20/3 f), Campbell (2/0 d), McGowan (3/0 m)
pick 1

Elche CF v CD Mirandés
Elche CF: Javi Flores (0/0 m), Beranger (7/0 d), Pelayo (18/1 m)
CD Mirandés: Infante (14/2 f), Antonio Martínez (1/0 m) (both doubtful), Raúl García (6/1 d), Koikili (14/0 d), Agustín (19/0 m)
pick 1

Fowler87

On two away goal specialists today in...

Benteke anytime @ 7/5
Lambert anytime @ 2/1

Singles and a >6/1 double

Cavehill Red

tip74 wrote: »

Injuries and suspensions:

Are you Malabgd from OLBG?

Colonialboy

Eng (-8) , Sheff Utd win, RossCounty/Celtic and Swansea/WBA (both teams to score) - 6/1 ...
Have todo something to assert my masculinity today ...sandwhiched in between international womens day and mothers day .

magherakid

Lasagna Diarra wrote: »

Any Northern Irish footy followers here?

Big drop in odds on Glenavon (from ~5.00 to ~3.50) while the odds on Portadown are rising, is there anything that could explain this? The game's been pulled from William Hill...

Mid ulster derby game, Portadown are missing 5 key players

Lord TSC

Following with two seperate bets on Baines and Benteke.

Lasagna Diarra

magherakid wrote: »

Mid ulster derby game, Portadown are missing 5 key players

Cheers! Do you fancy anything in this game?

Lasagna Diarra

Lasagna Diarra wrote: »

Kazakh league, first game of the season:

Kayrat @ 1.62

Kayrat's new coach is Vladimir Weiss, the guy who took the Slovakian club Artmedia to the CL groups and who also qualified Slovakia for the World Cup (they beat Italy and qualified from their group), so basically he seems to be a great coach.
They start the season at home against a team that finished just above the relegation zone last season and who have signed only 1 player according to this site: http://sports.kz/table/87

I've put Kayrat in a double with PSG double chance @ 1.98

FT 3-3

I've gone for Travnik in the Bosnian league @ 1.85

big drop in odds on them...

http://www.oddsportal.com/soccer/bosnia-and-herzegovina/premier-league/travnik-slavija-1537230/#1X2;2

magherakid

Lasagna Diarra wrote: »

Cheers! Do you fancy anything in this game?

couldn't be confident either team carrying my money, both teams inconsistent plus match form goes out the window in derby games

mailburner

Smithwicks Man wrote: »

Small bet on Cavani anytime scorer vs Chievo @ Evens as well.

Been too long since he's scored

too long
at least s el shaar hasnt been prolific in the meantime
he sure is making us sweat for it
balotelli joining milan might have been a blessing for us

eh i dunno

Double of Everton 4/9 and Nantes 1/2. Price seems pretty good on Nantes at home to the bottom team who have lost the last 7. Wigan expected to play a weakened team at Everton but Mucha in goal worries me for Everton