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Saville & satanic ritual abuse

  • 14-01-2013 12:33am
    #1
    Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭


    The stuff of legends and conspiracy theories. Apparently not, what a sick dement kunt he really was.
    JIMMY SAVILE beat and raped a 12-year-old girl during a secret satanic ritual in a hospital.

    The perverted star wore a hooded robe and mask as he abused the terrifi ed victim in a candle-lit basement.
    He also chanted “Hail Satan” in Latin as other paedophile devil worshippers joined in and assaulted the girl at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in Buckinghamshire. The attack, which happened in 1975, shines a sinister new light on the former DJ’s 54-year reign of terro
    Five years after the hospital attack, he abused a second victim during another black mass ceremony held at a house in a wealthy London street.
    The woman was 21 at the time and was made to attend an orgy, which later took on a darker twist.

    So who was protecting Sir Jimmy? And Why?
    “Both these witnesses did speak to police at the time but were vulnerable witnesses and on encountering any surprise or shock did not dare to give all the details.”The police took no action.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    Funny thing was that he was a friend of the British Royal; why would they be mates with some third rate DJ unless...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    I wonder who esle is in his little club.. I wonder if the queen is the head honcho of the group...

    They said he was respected by the others in the group coz of his level of fame, but he wasn't the leader..



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Funny thing was that he was a friend of the British Royal; why would they be mates with some third rate DJ unless...

    Well, he was awarded an OBE - because he raised about 40 Million or so for charity, if that makes him "a friend of the British Royal" then fair enough.
    And whatever else, a "third rate" DJ he was not, a simple read over his career in radio and television would put paid to that nonsense.

    But I guess this is what happens when you start applying Post hoc ergo propter hoc to justify tales of "Satanism".
    Because paedophilia isn't horrifying enough on it's own, apparently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    Well, he was awarded an OBE - because he raised about 40 Million or so for charity, if that makes him "a friend of the British Royal" then fair enough.
    And whatever else, a "third rate" DJ he was not, a simple read over his career in radio and television would put paid to that nonsense.

    But I guess this is what happens when you start applying Post hoc ergo propter hoc to justify tales of "Satanism".
    Because paedophilia isn't horrifying enough on it's own, apparently.

    Wrong, he was decidedly third rate. He wasn't a John Peel or even a Tony Blackburn. Paul Gambacini, who worked alongside him in Radio 1, said he had no real interest in music. Apparently, he developed the patter and spiel that became his trademark to cover up for always getting his timing breaks (between the songs he played) wrong because he mostly didn't even bother listening to the tunes.

    As for him not being a friend of the british royals, explain this one to me:
    Charles reportedly sent him a box of cigars and a pair of gold cufflinks on his 80th birthday with a note that read: "Nobody will ever know what you have done for this country Jimmy. This is to go some way in
    thanking you for that."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/29/jimmy-savile-behaviour-prince-charles


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Charles reportedly sent him?

    Reported by whom?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    The Saville stuff is definitely CT material - it does look like friends in high places were helping him out at least through inaction.

    However, dragging satanism into it does nothing but turn a pretty reasonable CT into something that looks like the usual shíte that gets posted here by certain prolific poster which gets easily dismissed. All that's missing is a crappy photoshop of Il Papa and a few swasticas.

    Is the OP trying to spread disinfo to discredit the investigation into a possible paedophile ring?

    What piece of right-wing establishment propaganda did these quotes come from anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I hear the Queen was going to send him a letter if he made it to 100. Cos he was her best mate and all.

    The Satanism stuff is straight from the book of **** to tack on to a story to ham it up. FFS , paedophilia hardly needs sensationalising. I think the story/revelations etc stand on their own two feet as far as murky pasts go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    People could have the opinion of me as an anti brit, but when you think of the people who got these honors seemed to have a leaning towards perversion, I am sure some have the qualifications to be selected for the honors. But look back on the list over several years, Have a go, it will embarrass you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Well, he was awarded an OBE - because he raised about 40 Million or so for charity, if that makes him "a friend of the British Royal" then fair enough.

    A former senior royal aide has revealed that Jimmy Savile's behaviour when he visited Prince Charles's official home at St James' Palace was a cause for "concern and suspicion".

    Dickie Arbiter, who handled media relations for the Prince and Princess of Wales while spokesman for the Queen between 1988 and 2000, said the suspected paedophile TV presenter used to rub his lips up the arms of Prince Charles's young female assistants as a greeting.

    Savile is understood to have visited Prince Charles's official London residence several times in the late 1980s when he was acting as a kind of marriage counsellor between Charles and Princess Diana. A spokesman for the Prince of Wales confirmed the prince and Savile formed a relationship in the late 1970s after coming together through their work with wheelchair sports charities. Charles led tributes to Savile when he died a year ago.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/29/jimmy-savile-behaviour-prince-charles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    A former senior royal aide has revealed that Jimmy Savile's behaviour when he visited Prince Charles's official home at St James' Palace was a cause for "concern and suspicion".

    Dickie Arbiter, who handled media relations for the Prince and Princess of Wales while spokesman for the Queen between 1988 and 2000, said the suspected paedophile TV presenter used to rub his lips up the arms of Prince Charles's young female assistants as a greeting.

    Savile is understood to have visited Prince Charles's official London residence several times in the late 1980s when he was acting as a kind of marriage counsellor between Charles and Princess Diana. A spokesman for the [B]Prince of Wales confirmed the prince and Savile formed a relationship in the late 1970s after coming together through their work with wheelchair sports charities[/B]. Charles led tributes to Savile when he died a year ago.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/29/jimmy-savile-behaviour-prince-charles


    Jaysus that explains a lot.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Jaysus that explains a lot.
    You left out the worst part of all

    Prince of Wales confirmed the prince and Savile formed a relationship in the late 1970s after coming together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    You left out the worst part of all

    Prince of Wales confirmed the prince and Savile formed a relationship in the late 1970s after coming together

    I thought I had included it. When you think, its a family game, down through the years.

    I think it was aboard game, the first game back a few hundred years ago. It was called "suoutsescni" or something like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    You left out the worst part of all

    Prince of Wales confirmed the prince and Savile formed a relationship in the late 1970s after coming together

    I really don't think it's fair to drag Prince Charles into these CT's. He is clearly not of sound mind.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭juice1304


    Bullsi1t satanists don't believe in satan or the devil or god. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,096 ✭✭✭SoulandForm


    You left out the worst part of all

    Prince of Wales confirmed the prince and Savile formed a relationship in the late 1970s after coming together

    I can write and read Welsh well and speak it okay. Im interested in Wales, her people, her culture and her struggle.

    Can the so called "Prince of Wales" write or speak Welsh? No.

    He owns a hell of a lot of land there though.

    Sorry for the rant but I hate when he is called that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Thats his official title though is it not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    I'll try this again...

    What piece of right-wing establishment propaganda did these quotes come from anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    porsche959 wrote: »
    Wrong, he was decidedly third rate. He wasn't a John Peel or even a Tony Blackburn.

    And yet he had a varied and very successful career as one.
    Somehow, I don't think that gels with peoples proclivity towards rewriting the past now that they know of his alleged crimes.

    porsche959 wrote: »

    Both of them did a lot of charity work, I doubt that makes him a friend.
    Case in point, both my Mother and Aunt worked in theatre in Sligo General the night lord Mountbatten was brought in, and as a result we received a gift of fine china from the Queen.

    I imagine this makes my mother a friend of the royals too, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Friends shake hands or hug ;)
    Its a sign of an agreement or understanding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    And yet he had a varied and very successful career as one.
    Somehow, I don't think that gels with peoples proclivity towards rewriting the past now that they know of his alleged crimes.




    Both of them did a lot of charity work, I doubt that makes him a friend.
    Case in point, both my Mother and Aunt worked in theatre in Sligo General the night lord Mountbatten was brought in, and as a result we received a gift of fine china from the Queen.

    I imagine this makes my mother a friend of the royals too, right?

    just like ships that pass in the night

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    Shall we go for a drink then? Sir Jimmy draws out his pension in front of Prince Charles at Glencoe Post Office during a private visit in 1999

    Was your mother on their Christmas card list


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    enno99 wrote: »
    Was your mother on their Christmas card list

    Not that I know of.
    Then again, sending Christmas cards hardly implies a deep friendship, now does it.
    Lord knows I've received them from people I barely know.

    The idea that he was besties with prince philip or other royals is a little silly. I mean if you were to say he was close to Maggie thatcher you'd have more to go on.

    But I guess that's just not part of the story, because... satanism. I guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Not that I know of.
    Then again, sending Christmas cards hardly implies a deep friendship, now does it.
    Lord knows I've received them from people I barely know.


    I dont doubt it your such a an amenable fellow :)

    The idea that he was besties with prince philip or other royals is a little silly. I mean if you were to say he was close to Maggie thatcher you'd have more to go on.

    But I guess that's just not part of the story, because... satanism. I guess.

    A private visit to Saviles Glencore home dont count either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    enno99 wrote: »
    A private visit to Saviles Glencore home dont count either

    Not as much as you'd like.

    I just don't see why people are fixated on a tenuous link with the royals when it's well documented that Saville was actually quite close to Mrs Thatcher.

    Is the Iron lady not good enough for satan or something? I know a lot of scots who'd disagree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    enno99 wrote: »
    article-2165994-13D3EA0A000005DC-815_634x375.jpg
    "And with affectionate feelings, Charles"

    Cant make out fully the last part.
    Anyone?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    Torakx wrote: »
    Cant make out fully the last part.
    Anyone?

    Looks like "Give my love to your ladies in Scotland" Actually, on second looking.. "Give my love to your ladies = Scotland ? "


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Torakx wrote: »
    "And with affectionate feelings, Charles"

    Cant make out fully the last part.
    Anyone?

    give my love to the ladies in scotland

    Its in relation to him visiting savile at his cottage and having dinner there
    from what I can gather

    ships that pass in the night :rolleyes:

    Duiske is right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 BeermanAdy


    Torakx wrote: »
    "And with affectionate feelings, Charles"

    Cant make out fully the last part.
    Anyone?


    looks like "Give my love to your ladies in(?) Scotland"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    BeermanAdy wrote: »
    looks like "Give my love to your ladies in(?) Scotland"

    Looks more like:
    Give my love to your friend: Satan!

    My God, it's true...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Are people trying to infer in here that Prince Charles is a satanist?

    RTDH isn't going to make the thread for you lads, someone has to take one for the team..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Are people trying to infer in here that Prince Charles is a satanist?

    And why wouldn't he be ?

    He remained close friends with a suspected pedo ..

    Remember, suspicions were raised in the early 80's.

    Charlie still sent him a b-day prezzie.

    So, Charlie somewhat encouraged pedophilia by keeping his mouth shut.

    Satanism's got nothing on pedophilia.

    Why wouldn't he be a satanist ? Anyone on the street could be a satanist, why not Charlie ?

    It's like saying, it's crazy to suggest that Saville could be a pedo coz he's on telly. :rolleyes:


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    I can write and read Welsh well and speak it okay. Im interested in Wales, her people, her culture and her struggle.

    Can the so called "Prince of Wales" write or speak Welsh? No.

    He owns a hell of a lot of land there though.

    Sorry for the rant but I hate when he is called that.
    How about the Prince of darkness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    So, Charlie somewhat encouraged pedophilia by keeping his mouth shut.

    That's a hell of a fucking reach.

    Historian's fallacy, all up ins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    And why wouldn't he be ?

    He remained close friends with a suspected pedo ..

    Remember, suspicions were raised in the early 80's.

    Charlie still sent him a b-day prezzie.

    So, Charlie somewhat encouraged pedophilia by keeping his mouth shut.

    Satanism's got nothing on pedophilia.

    Why wouldn't he be a satanist ? Anyone on the street could be a satanist, why not Charlie ?

    It's like saying, it's crazy to suggest that Saville could be a pedo coz he's on telly. :rolleyes:

    So by this leap of logic Margaret Thatcher encouraged pedophilia and worshiped Satan also?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,737 ✭✭✭weisses


    How about the Prince of darkness?

    You can go to far BB no one messes with fukcin Ozzy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭Daithi 1


    That's a hell of a fucking reach.

    Historian's fallacy, all up ins.

    Not really. Suspicions were raised in the 80's by royal staff members..
    Not to mention police were aware and half the people in the uk heard the rumours. I heard the rumours 20+ years ago.
    Are we to believe that Thatcher and the Royals didn't hear the rumours ? They didn't run a little investigation of their own ? M15 m16 didn't look into it ? They didn't think Saville could be dangerous ?

    Of course they knew.. :rolleyes:
    Jonny7 wrote: »
    So by this leap of logic Margaret Thatcher encouraged pedophilia and worshiped Satan also?

    IF you say so.

    Jimmy would have thought he was untouchable. Given that the "raised suspicions", were brushed under the carpet by the Royals.

    That constitutes encouragement in my book.

    No wonder there are now over 450 victims.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Daithi 1 wrote: »
    Not really. Suspicions were raised in the 80's by royal staff members..
    Not to mention police were aware and half the people in the uk heard the rumours. I heard the rumours 20+ years ago.
    Are we to believe that Thatcher and the Royals didn't hear the rumours ? They didn't run a little investigation of their own ? M15 m16 didn't look into it ? They didn't think Saville could be dangerous ?

    Of course they knew.. :rolleyes:

    You're making the mistake of assuming people in the past were acting with all the knowledge you currently posses.
    You shouldn't, it's foolish.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    You're making the mistake of assuming people in the past were acting with all the knowledge you currently posses.
    You shouldn't, it's foolish.

    It's foolish to think that MI5 don't have a file as long as my arm on Savile, It's foolish to think that Prince Charles could make home visits without the resident(s) being vetted first by MI5.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    It's foolish to think that MI5 don't have a file as long as my arm on Savile

    You have no evidence for this yet are assuming that not only is it true, but that it would contain a list of all of savilles crimes.


    Assuming people in the past have access to all the knowledge you do is a fallacy, stop making it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭Party Supply Van


    It's foolish to think that MI5 don't have a file as long as my arm on Savile, It's foolish to think that Prince Charles could make home visits without the resident(s) being vetted first by MI5.

    This would be my problem with the relationship between the two. If you are served with protecting the Royal family you would not let anyone come in such contact with them without serious vetting first. Sure didn't they used to have food testers in the olden days to prevent poisoning. Maybe it was a case of, 'a sure it's just Jimmy off the TV' and they dropped the ball on this one.

    But I'd hardly think that it's just one guy in MI5 with this job, and if there were that many rumours floating around about Saville, as it seems, surely some must have reached the ears of the Royal protectors.

    So going with this line of thought, that maybe MI5 were aware of savilles activities, what reasoning would there be for letting him near Charles? All I can come up with is that maybe Saville had something on the Royals that unless he was allowed to cosy up to them he would release it. But that wouldn't make sense in that himself and Charles do seem genuinely pally. Unless Charles was unaware that Jimmy had some sort 'agreement' with MI5 and also unaware about jimmy's activities. All this granted that Charles too wasn't involved with jimmy's seedy doings, which I would really have a hard time believing tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    This would be my problem with the relationship between the two. If you are served with protecting the Royal family you would not let anyone come in such contact with them without serious vetting first. Sure didn't they used to have food testers in the olden days to prevent poisoning. Maybe it was a case of, 'a sure it's just Jimmy off the TV' and they dropped the ball on this one.

    But I'd hardly think that it's just one guy in MI5 with this job, and if there were that many rumours floating around about Saville, as it seems, surely some must have reached the ears of the Royal protectors.

    So going with this line of thought, that maybe MI5 were aware of savilles activities, what reasoning would there be for letting him near Charles? All I can come up with is that maybe Saville had something on the Royals that unless he was allowed to cosy up to them he would release it. But that wouldn't make sense in that himself and Charles do seem genuinely pally. Unless Charles was unaware that Jimmy had some sort 'agreement' with MI5 and also unaware about jimmy's activities. All this granted that Charles too wasn't involved with jimmy's seedy doings, which I would really have a hard time believing tbh.

    Saville was huge in the UK, plus he raised 10's of millions, this put him in contact with a lot of famous people, including the Royals (apparently Charles knew him through a mutual charity)

    Royal protection isn't exactly watertight, there have been numerous incidents.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Saville was huge in the UK, plus he raised 10's of millions, this put him in contact with a lot of famous people, including the Royals (apparently Charles knew him through a mutual charity)

    Royal protection isn't exactly watertight, there have been numerous incidents.

    Maybe he met him when he was pals with the other royals

    He was first introduced to the Royal Family, he reveals, by Lord Mountbatten. In 1966, Jimmy became the first civilian to be awarded a Royal Marines’ green beret. Mountbatten was comm­and­ant general at the time and realised that Savile could be a useful contact.

    “Coming from Lord Louis, who was the favourite uncle of Prince Philip, that was quite something,” he says. “So obviously I hooked up with the Prince – what was good enough for Lord Louis was good enough for him.”

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/43798/How-Jim-really-did-fix-it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    Saville was huge in the UK, plus he raised 10's of millions, this put him in contact with a lot of famous people, including the Royals (apparently Charles knew him through a mutual charity)

    Royal protection isn't exactly watertight, there have been numerous incidents.

    Some people need to pay for sex, and some sacks of $hit like saville use charity money and access to children through his title too pray on kids. As was posted on this thread, Chairle goes only where the security services say its safe, it was safe and secure when the young royals were growing up, for him to visit the pervert. This is off topic, what was the guy from MI5 doing in the bag last year.
    I think it is time for the normal citizen too ask questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭3ndahalfof6


    So its still sir jimmy, interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    Some people need to pay for sex, and some sacks of $hit like saville use charity money and access to children through his title too pray on kids. As was posted on this thread, Chairle goes only where the security services say its safe, it was safe and secure when the young royals were growing up, for him to visit the pervert. This is off topic, what was the guy from MI5 doing in the bag last year.
    I think it is time for the normal citizen too ask questions.

    They met through charity work in the 70's or 80's.

    Again, Saville became a huge star and household name in the UK (and Ireland) He had carte blanche to access almost anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    They met through charity work in the 70's or 80's.

    Again, Saville became a huge star and household name in the UK (and Ireland) He had carte blanche to access almost anywhere.

    With the help of Charlie, and the security checks of MI5, a kinky outfit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    With the help of Charlie, and the security checks of MI5, a kinky outfit.

    If only there was some sort of police enquiry.. I guess they're in on it too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    They met through charity work in the 70's or 80's.

    Again, Saville became a huge star and household name in the UK (and Ireland) He had carte blanche to access almost anywhere.

    as early as 1970 it appears

    1970savileandpcharles.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Jonny7


    enno99 wrote: »
    as as early as 1970 it appears

    1970savileandpcharles.png

    I am detecting ever so subtle inference of some kind here..

    Prince Charles was a friend of Jimmy Saville, and Saville was a paedophile.. therefore..

    Oh right! I see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    Jonny7 wrote: »
    I am detecting ever so subtle inference of some kind here..

    Prince Charles was a friend of Jimmy Saville, and Saville was a paedophile.. therefore..

    Oh right! I see.

    Ah no, really, could there be a cloud hanging over it all. Di very attractive woman, and the other part of the triangle, what can I say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Put together a few links I had a while back re Savile this side of the pond he had access to top people here also


    The Sunday World has learnt that the Metropolitan Police force will also face allegations that it crushed an investigation into Savile in the 1980s after he was spotted entering a house in east London which had been under surveillance for paedophile activities.

    The allegations, which have been passed to a sitting MP in the House of Commons and handed over to officers at Operation Yewtree, claim that Masonic influence in one division of the London Force helped protect Savile.

    http://www.sundayworld.com/columnists/donal-macintyre.php

    He was feted in Dublin society circles, dropping in regularly for tea with Charles Haughey at Abbeville and visiting President Erskine Childers in the Aras in a kilt


    http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/thousands-followed-jimmy-through-dublin-but-only-a-few-saw-his-dark-side-3265552.html

    Savile visited Ireland every year between 1968 and 1981 to lead fundraising walks for the Central Remedial Clinic. At the peak of his fame, more than 25,000 people turned out on the streets of Dublin for charity event.

    "Savile used to come over regularly to Ireland to see Lady Valerie Goulding, who ran the Rehab in Clontarf - the Central Remedial Clinic," said Gay.

    "He would do sponsored runs and sponsored cycles for her and he would turn up on the Late Late Show in the normal course of events."


    http://www.sundayworld.com/showbiz/sw-gossip.php?aid=13123


    Dont know if he done any other charity work in Ireland





    Central Remedial Clinic was set up in April 1951 by Lady Valerie Goulding and Kathleen O'Rourke as a small non-residential treatment centre in a house in Upper Pembroke Street in the heart of Dublin

    http://www.crc.ie/about_his.shtml

    Lady Valerie Goulding (Monkton)

    Born Valerie Hamilton Monckton, she was the only daughter of Mary Adelaide Somes Colyer-Ferguson and Sir Walter Monckton (later 1st Viscount Monckton of Brenchley).

    On account of her widespread popularity, in 1977 she was nominated by the Taoiseach, Jack Lynch, to Seanad Éireann, where she worked to raise awareness of disability issues. She sought election to Dáil Éireann twice as a Fianna Fáil candidate, both times unsuccessfully. She was spoken of as a possible President of Ireland in 1983, along with former Nobel and Lenin Peace Prize winner Sean MacBride and former head of the International Olympic Committee Lord Killanin, should the president, Patrick Hillery, decline to seek a second term. (Hillery ultimately was re-elected).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Goulding

    Her father
    Walter Turner Monckton, 1st Viscount Monckton of Brenchley,

    A lawyer, Monckton served as advisor to Edward VIII during the abdication crisis, having been Attorney General to the Duchy of Cornwall since 1932. He was Recorder of Hythe from 1930-37.
    ( she was his letter carrier between the palace and her father )

    He worked in propaganda and information during World War II and became Solicitor General in Winston Churchill's 1945 caretaker government, although he refused to join the Conservative Party. He finally joined after the war and became a Member of Parliament for Bristol West at a 1951 by-election. Churchill soon appointed him to the cabinet as Minister of Labour and National Service, in which post he served from 1951 to 1955. He was Anthony Eden's Minister of Defence 1955–56, but was the only cabinet minister to oppose his Suez policy, and was moved to Paymaster-General 1956–57

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Monckton,_1st_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley

    Her Brother
    Gilbert Monckton,

    He was promoted Major General in 1963, and became Army director of public relations, dealing with press scrutiny into the behaviour of soldiers in Germany in the aftermath of unhelpful comments from the Secretary of State for War, John Profumo. He became Chief of Staff at the Headquarters of the British Army of the Rhine in 1965. He was appointed a Commander of the Belgian Order of the Crown in 1965 (Léopold III of Belgium was Colonel of his regiment), and Companion of the Order of the Bath in 1966. He left the Army in 1967, but was Colonel of the 9th/12th Royal Lancers from 1967 to 1973.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Monckton,_2nd_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley


    Her nephew

    christopher Monkton

    Christopher Walter Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley (born 14 February 1952) is a British politician, public speaker,[1] hereditary peer, and former newspaper editor. He has worked for The Universe, The Sunday Telegraph, Today and Evening Standard newspapers. Formerly a member of the Conservative Party, he served in Conservative Central Office and worked for Margaret Thatcher's Number 10 Policy Unit during the 1980s.

    Monckton became known in the 1990s for his invention of the Eternity puzzle, a mathematical puzzle for which he offered a prize of one million pounds to the first person who could solve it within four years.[2] In recent years he has come to public attention for holding sceptical views about man-made climate change.[3][4][5][6]




    Her Niece

    Rosa Monckton

    Rosa Monckton is the daughter of Gilbert Monckton, 2nd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley and was educated at the Ursuline Convent at Tildonk in Belgium.[1] She is married to the journalist
    Dominic Lawson
    Lawson was educated at Westminster School and then Christ Church, Oxford. He is the elder son of Nigel Lawson, a former Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer, and socialite Vanessa Salmon, heir to the Lyons Corner House empire

    Lawson has several times been accused of working with MI6 (by for instance Richard Tomlinson), but has denied being an agent.[6]

    From 1995 until 2005, Lawson was editor of The Sunday Telegraph. In 2000 the newspaper was named Newspaper of the Year at the British Press Awards. In 2006, he started to write columns for The Independent newspaper and in 2008, he became the main columnist for The Sunday Times.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Lawson

    Monckton was a friend of Diana, Princess of Wales. Regarding Diana's alleged pregnancy at the time of her death, Monckton told a BBC documentary in December 2006 that Diana had had her period while they were on holiday together ten days before Diana died

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Monckton

    Rosa Monckton has disclosed that someone close to her was involved with MI6.

    Miss Monckton told the inquest into the princess's death that she personally had "no connection with the security services" but that "someone close to me is connected with the SIS"

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1572603/Rosa-Monckton-admits-close-link-to-MI6.html


    So rosa Monkton and jimmy savile were close confidants of princess Diana or were they her handlers

    Who was she refering to being in MI6 her husband her father /grandfather/ aunt /brother
    or all of the above


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