The "Today I did something to my bike" thread

Hotblack Desiato

DIY valve servicing and Honda practicality and reliability are starting to look quite tempting for my next bike

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Having already changed out one oil cooler pipe and the oil cooler itself, i've decided to change the smaller one as well just to be safe. Fowlers provide an excellent service.

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Gear Indicator
Got this as well but i suspect it wasn't fitted correctly, i had it done by a workshop.

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

Gear Indicator
Got this as well but i suspect it wasn't fitted correctly, i had it done by a workshop.

Is it plug and play? Connects to the diagnostic port? I bought on off ali express for the sv650 and it works just fine. That's the top of the range you have they have made a mistake somewhere.

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UrbanFret wrote: »

Is it plug and play? Connects to the diagnostic port? I bought on off ali express for the sv650 and it works just fine. That's the top of the range you have they have made a mistake somewhere.

Cost me €130 plus labour (€50+vat) to fit it, the tank on my DL650 had to be removed to fit, plugs straight in is what was explained to me, i've sent the workshop that video as well, what is the most likely cause? connections weren't done right?

Is that a good brand? I'm really clueless on certain brands for bikes. I got it because i kept going for a 7th gear on the dual carriageway.

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

Cost me €130 plus labour (€50+vat) to fit it, the tank on my DL650 had to be removed to fit, plugs straight in is what was explained to me, i've sent the workshop that video as well, what is the most likely cause? connections weren't done right?

Is that a good brand? I'm really clueless on certain brands for bikes. I got it because i kept going for a 7th gear on the dual carriageway.

That's supposed to be the creme de la creme of gear indicators . Mine cost €31.25 . fitted myself. Its a Chinese clone. working well though.;)


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108249257&postcount=3715

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UrbanFret wrote: »

That's supposed to be the creme de la creme of gear indicators . Mine cost €31.25 . fitted myself. Its a Chinese clone. working well though.;)


https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108249257&postcount=3715

It’s working perfectly, just seems to be how it’s wired up is the issue, on the journey home I seen the number 2 appear twice, once I wasn’t even in second gear.

Fair play for wiring it yourself, I’d be afraid of my life to go messing with electrics.

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

It’s working perfectly, just seems to be how it’s wired up is the issue, on the journey home I seen the number 2 appear twice, once I wasn’t even in second gear.

Fair play for wiring it yourself, I’d be afraid of my life to go messing with electrics.

To be fair. I only had to plug it into the diagnostic port and route the wire. Some of them need to be "trained" or to "learn" which gear they are in when first installed, some of the more mechanically minded on here might know how thats done.

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UrbanFret wrote: »

To be fair. I only had to plug it into the diagnostic port and route the wire. Some of them need to be "trained" or to "learn" which gear they are in when first installed, some of the more mechanically minded on here might know how thats done.

The bike shop that fitted it rang me back about 10 minutes ago, the mechanic who installed it is adamant that it was working perfectly before i took the bike away, they asked me do i want to try and sort it myself or do i want them to do it, it's a GI PRO ATRE but i have no idea how to reset it as it was wired into the ignition system and not the battery directly. My gear is if i try something myself that i could be voiding any potential warranty on it.

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

The bike shop that fitted it rang me back about 10 minutes ago, the mechanic who installed it is adamant that it was working perfectly before i took the bike away, they asked me do i want to try and sort it myself or do i want them to do it, it's a GI PRO ATRE but i have no idea how to reset it as it was wired into the ignition system and not the battery directly. My gear is if i try something myself that i could be voiding any potential warranty on it.

Bring it back to them. They have been well paid to fit it.

listermint

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

Cost me €130 plus labour (€50+vat) to fit it, the tank on my DL650 had to be removed to fit, plugs straight in is what was explained to me, i've sent the workshop that video as well, what is the most likely cause? connections weren't done right?

Is that a good brand? I'm really clueless on certain brands for bikes. I got it because i kept going for a 7th gear on the dual carriageway.

The Diagnostic Port is near the battery, Tank does not have to be removed. Fishing the cables up with fishing gear would mean the tank does not have to be removed. If its a plug and play into the Diag Port then you could fit one in a 20 minutes.

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listermint wrote: »

The Diagnostic Port is near the battery, Tank does not have to be removed. Fishing the cables up with fishing gear would mean the tank does not have to be removed. If its a plug and play into the Diag Port then you could fit one in a 20 minutes.

3 hours labour I was charged :rolleyes:

Sonics2k

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

3 hours labour I was charged :rolleyes:

Was it the same mechanic we spoke about recently? A lad by Innishannon?

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Sonics2k wrote: »

Was it the same mechanic we spoke about recently? A lad by Innishannon?

PM Sent

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

The bike shop that fitted it rang me back about 10 minutes ago, the mechanic who installed it is adamant that it was working perfectly before i took the bike away, they asked me do i want to try and sort it myself or do i want them to do it, it's a GI PRO ATRE but i have no idea how to reset it as it was wired into the ignition system and not the battery directly. My gear is if i try something myself that i could be voiding any potential warranty on it.

Had a look at a few videos showing the install of that particular model. In fairness theres a bit more than plug and play to it. the bit at the end stands for timing retard eliminator. [SIZE=-1]Some of the Features
- Disables speed limiter
- Allows full timing in all gears
- Senses neutral for smooth idle control
- Improved throttle response and driveability
So it could have taking a while to install.;)

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UrbanFret wrote: »

Had a look at a few videos showing the install of that particular model. In fairness theres a bit more than plug and play to it. the bit at the end stands for timing retard eliminator. [SIZE=-1]Some of the Features
- Disables speed limiter
- Allows full timing in all gears
- Senses neutral for smooth idle control
- Improved throttle response and driveability
So it could have taking a while to install.;)

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Would any of that explain why it is skipping 2nd gear?

By the sounds of it, it is complicated then.

frozenfrozen

aTRE tricks the bike into thinking it's in 5th gear except when it's in neutral.

Didn't know you could get gear indicators that still worked like that

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

Would any of that explain why it is skipping 2nd gear?

By the sounds of it, it is complicated then.

I think it needs to be trained. there's a button on the top of it for setting it up. I'd just bring the bike back in and get them to sort it.

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frozenfrozen wrote: »

aTRE tricks the bike into thinking it's in 5th gear except when it's in neutral.

Didn't know you could get gear indicators that still worked like that

It just seems to be 2nd gear that is the issue, no idea why it happens though.

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UrbanFret wrote: »

I think it needs to be trained. there's a button on the top of it for setting it up. I'd just bring the bike back in and get them to sort it.

Didn't see any button, that's the odd thing

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

Didn't see any button, that's the odd thing

Think it's a touch sensor.

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UrbanFret wrote: »

Think it's a touch sensor.

Will check it again so in the morning, i'm hoping it's a simple fix.

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

Will check it again so in the morning, i'm hoping it's a simple fix.

You Could try this yourself!:eek:


5.3. Starting the Auto-Learning procedure
If the display does not indicate the gears selected correctly, start the Auto-Learning procedure:

1. If you have a stand, raise the rear wheel off the ground. Otherwise, sit on the bike.

2. Activate the display (refer to section 5.1). Make sure that the side-stand is up and the engine stop switch is in RUN position. Do not start the engine.

3. Select Neutral.

4. Press the button and keep it depressed until “L” (Learning) appears on the display.

5. Release the button. If the gear box is in Neutral, “L” starts blinking and Auto-Learning procedure starts.

6. After a few seconds, the next gear to be learned is blinking on the display (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6). Select the gear indicated on the display. In order to change gear with engine off, you may need to move the rear wheel back and forth while pushing the gear selector. “L” is blinking while the selected gear is being learned.
Repeat this step until all gears have been learned.
If you’d like to start over the process, press the button once, then go to step 3.

7. If all six gears have been learned, “U” (Update) is blinking on the display for a few seconds. If your bike has less than 6 gears, press and release the button. The unit saves the new gear positions to Flash memory, then the display goes back to normal operation.

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UrbanFret wrote: »

You Could try this yourself!:eek:


5.3. Starting the Auto-Learning procedure
If the display does not indicate the gears selected correctly, start the Auto-Learning procedure:

1. If you have a stand, raise the rear wheel off the ground. Otherwise, sit on the bike.

2. Activate the display (refer to section 5.1). Make sure that the side-stand is up and the engine stop switch is in RUN position. Do not start the engine.

3. Select Neutral.

4. Press the button and keep it depressed until “L” (Learning) appears on the display.

5. Release the button. If the gear box is in Neutral, “L” starts blinking and Auto-Learning procedure starts.

6. After a few seconds, the next gear to be learned is blinking on the display (1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6). Select the gear indicated on the display. In order to change gear with engine off, you may need to move the rear wheel back and forth while pushing the gear selector. “L” is blinking while the selected gear is being learned.
Repeat this step until all gears have been learned.
If you’d like to start over the process, press the button once, then go to step 3.

7. If all six gears have been learned, “U” (Update) is blinking on the display for a few seconds. If your bike has less than 6 gears, press and release the button. The unit saves the new gear positions to Flash memory, then the display goes back to normal operation.

Definitely for the one i have? There is a g1 & g2 but the box didn't say which it was.

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

Definitely for the one i have? There is a g1 & g2 but the box didn't say which it was.

That's for the G2, Would think the process is the same for both. Im thinking when she flashed for 2nd they didn't select the right gear. seems straight forward enough.:D
I'll see can i find the instructions for the G1.

UrbanFret

Can't seem to get the G1 manual.
Here's a link to the complete manual for that G2

Manual

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UrbanFret wrote: »

Can't seem to get the G1 manual.
Here's a link to the complete manual for that G2

Manual

Thanks for that, seems straight forward, the following is the only bit throwing me off, looks like i'll have a fun saturday.

Auto Learn function
Unit is pre-programmed to fit most Suzuki GSXR bikes and it works out of the box. However, if
needed, the unit learns the gear positions automatically. This ensures compatibility with all
Suzuki EFI bikes.

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

Thanks for that, seems straight forward, the following is the only bit throwing me off, looks like i'll have a fun saturday.

What could possibly go wrong? Best of luck!:D

UrbanFret

Kenzie Yummy Slogan wrote: »

The instructions you posted worked :cool:

Good job. Well done.

stewygriffin

Rare 50mm SilMoto system for my 996.
Engine build to follow.