Jimmy Saville report released.

lazygal

I only wish he was still alive so he would have to face charges. Evil sick perverted bastard. Abusing sick children in hospitals and in a hospice, how disgusting was he and the people who said nothing because 'Ah, that's just how Jimmy is'.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/11/jimmy-savile-abused-children-hospitals

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/10/jimmy-savile-abuse-inquiry-published

smash

Was reading it earlier. Over 450 allegations with over 37 of them being rape... christ.

kfallon

That's one sick man right there!

How evil do you have to be to abuse kids lying, literally, on their deathbeds?

There really is no justice when this guy can die peacefully and without punishment after harming children in their final days.:(

Mr Benevolent

They'll probably dig up his bones and hang them from the Tower of London.

Mr E

There is a very special place in Hell for people like that.

ITS_A_BADGER

It crazy stuff to think that one man could assault so many vunerable people, ONE man :eek: And when any allegations rose people just went ah thats just jimmy everybody wants a bit of him. Unbelieveable!

padd b1975

Candie wrote: »

How evil do you have to be to abuse kids lying, literally, on their deathbeds?

There really is no justice when this guy can die peacefully and without punishment after harming children in their final days.:(

He died alone in a fairly basic appartment near Leeds.

Kinda tells you something.....

antodeco

If anything, this can only increase peoples voices to speak out if it happens again. People were (and still are) terrified of celebrities and what would happen if they spoke out. Hopefully this will show people that speaking out at the time will prevent further happenings. All it takes is one person to speak out to start people wondering about somebody.

Dodge

Yep, times like this I really hope I'm wrong and there is a heaven & hell and a nasty vengeful god.

The mind behind crimes like this is, thankfully, beyond my comprehension

lazygal

padd b1975 wrote: »

He died alone in a fairly basic appartment near Leeds.

Kinda tells you something.....

I bet he wasn't being molested by a pervert on his deathbed no matter how basic his accommodation.

smash

padd b1975 wrote: »

He died alone in a fairly basic appartment near Leeds.

Kinda tells you something.....

He should have died in prison.

squod

Now then, now then, now then.

Duggy747

The worst thing is that the cùnt died and got away with it.

xzanti

padd b1975 wrote: »

He died alone in a fairly basic appartment near Leeds.

Kinda tells you something.....

Too good for him.

lazygal

squod wrote: »

Now then, now then, now then.

Seriously, can we not drop the 'jokes',children were raped by this man.

smash

smash wrote: »

Was reading it earlier. Over 450 allegations with over 37 of them being rape... christ.

If conventional wisdom on reporting stats is anything to go by, his real total is many times more than that.

As if that wasn't enough.

getz

antodeco wrote: »

If anything, this can only increase peoples voices to speak out if it happens again. People were (and still are) terrified of celebrities and what would happen if they spoke out. Hopefully this will show people that speaking out at the time will prevent further happenings. All it takes is one person to speak out to start people wondering about somebody.

i think you will find many did speak out,they were at best ignored,and at times even the cases were never alowed to go to court,why ?,i dont think its a coincidence that the police operation is called ;yewtree;.

antodeco

getz wrote: »

i think you will find many did speak out,they were at best ignored,and at times even the cases were never alowed to go to court,why ?,i dont think its a coincidence that the police operation is called ;yewtree;.

I only read the second report after posting it. You are right. Its actually sickening that the authorities did nothing because he was famous.

super_furry

Jesus, how many people must have know? There was no way this could have been kept hidden without help if it was so widespread.

padd b1975

smash wrote: »

He should have died in prison.

Yes he should.

Its a pity his victims (those who are still alive) could not find the courage to speak out sooner.

CreepingDeath

I see his "work" with children was recognised by that paedophile organisation, the catholic church.

Knighted by the Pope

Thwip!

Absolutely sickening

ejmaztec

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I see his "work" with children was recognised by that paedophile organisation, the catholic church.

Knighted by the Pope

But he was a lot better than the Catholic church for keeping it under wraps though.

coolhull

Its terrible, but not much worse than the clerical abuse that went on here for decades. A lot of kids reported that too, and were told 'sure Father X would'nt do that type of thing, he's a grand holy man".
And the police here weren't in a rush to take action either. It seems that giving someone a title like 'Father' or Sir' is a licence to get away with anything.

Dodge

coolhull wrote: »

Its terrible, but not much worse than the clerical abuse that went on here for decades. A lot of kids reported that too, and were told 'sure Father X would'nt do that type of thing, he's a grand holy man".
And the police here weren't in a rush to take action either. It seems that giving someone a title like 'Father' or Sir' is a licence to get away with anything.

Is there really a need to rank how disgusting acts like this are?

Can you not discuss the issue at hand without bringing ALL other horrific acts into it?

Saville's abuses are a big enough subject without the need for wehere they fit in the global scheme of horror

mike65

He had the perfect disguise - he looked like a creepy paedophile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agPO76oTdDA

Otacon

Mr E wrote: »

There is a very special place in Hell for people like that.

It's in times like this that I wish I believed in hell.

--Kaiser--

Mr E wrote: »

There is a very special place in Hell for people like that.

Much as people would like to believe it, there is no such thing as hell. This is why it is important that people are punished for their crimes while they are alive

Wibbs

Jesus christ, reading that is depressing. What's more depressing is that there's likely quite a number of similar enough people "hiding in plain sight" as we speak.

smash

Wibbs wrote: »

Jesus christ, reading that is depressing. What's more depressing is that there's likely quite a number of similar enough people "hiding in plain sight" as we speak.

Your avi does you no favors!

getz

smash wrote: »

Your avi does you no favors!

lets not forget these people can only get away with it over the years if there is someone or organisation in a position of power that is covering it up,untill they are found out,these atrocities will continue.

lazygal

Wibbs wrote: »

Jesus christ, reading that is depressing. What's more depressing is that there's likely quite a number of similar enough people "hiding in plain sight" as we speak.

Time to root them out.

Dodge

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/jan/11/jimmy-savile-reports-live-blog

Guardian is 'live blogging' the various reactions as they come in today.

Some startling figures.

mitosis

smash wrote: »

Was reading it earlier. Over 450 allegations with over 37 of them being rape... christ.

That's more than reported abuse by the Catholic Church in the Dublin Diocese in 60 years.

GalwayGuy2

Makes you hope for a real life Dexter:(

davet82

I have all the feelings most people have when they read about this scumbag; disgust, shock, sorrow but most of all i get frustrated that this wánker never got exposed while he was alive and it makes me so angry i just find it hard to follow the story...

there really is no justice in this world

WindSock

Too many do gooders using their do gooding status to be nogoodnicks.

Le church, O'Searchaigh, Savile...

makes you wonder how many people get drawn to these positions to abuse them under the guise of being selfless charitarians. The next volunteer I see, I'm going to chase them out of town with a burning pitchfork.

Jonny7

getz wrote: »

lets not forget these people can only get away with it over the years if there is someone or organisation in a position of power that is covering it up,untill they are found out,these atrocities will continue.

Anyone who knew about it and didn't expose it can be held to some sort of account

That includes the 13 hospitals

It appears few did though, either through fear or just the stigma of it

--Kaiser--

WindSock wrote: »

Too many do gooders using their do gooding status to be nogoodnicks.

What a sentence

squod

CreepingDeath wrote: »

I see his "work" with children was recognised by that paedophile organisation, the catholic church.

Knighted by the Pope

He wasn't a Catholic, he was a freemason.

padd b1975

padd b1975 wrote: »

Its a pity his victims (those who are still alive) could not find the courage to speak out sooner.

Many of them did, they didn't lack courage.

They either weren't listened to, were discouraged from seeking justice, or weren't believed.

clairefontaine

Candie wrote: »

Many of them did, they didn't lack courage.

They either weren't listened to, were discouraged from seeking justice, or weren't believed.

And then if they don't have enough evidence a man as powerful as Saville could sue for slander, accusing them of making false hysterical accusations, wanting to pick his pockets for lawsuit money, targeting him because he is wealthy.

clairefontaine

clairefontaine wrote: »

And then if they don't have enough evidence a man as powerful as Saville could sue for slander, accusing them of making false hysterical accusations, wanting to pick his pockets for lawsuit money, targeting him because he is wealthy.

He made both explicit and veiled threats to that effect several times it seems, even to two police officers interviewing him a few years back.

StinkyMunkey

Makes you wish there was a hell, this fuker deserves to burn in it.

asherbassad

Jonny7 wrote: »

Anyone who knew about it and didn't expose it can be held to some sort of account

That includes the 13 hospitals

It appears few did though, either through fear or just the stigma of it

Can't get yourself to accept this conspiracy either I see Jonny. This bastard was connected and protected and facilitated. Don't try to hang some lowly nurse out to dry when she was threatened with severe retribution by this thug and his enablers.

Meangadh

WindSock wrote: »

Too many do gooders using their do gooding status to be nogoodnicks.

Le church, O'Searchaigh, Savile...

makes you wonder how many people get drawn to these positions to abuse them under the guise of being selfless charitarians. The next volunteer I see, I'm going to chase them out of town with a burning pitchfork.

See, that's the problem. I know the pitchfork bit was tongue-in-cheek (I hope!) but honestly it is getting to the stage where it is so difficult to have faith and confidence in anything anymore.

There have been such awful atrocities done to children by various groups/individuals that to put your children in the trust of anyone anymore is so difficult. And yet the vast, vast majority of those who work with young people want the very best for them... but constantly have to watch absolutely everything they do for fear of being seen as someone that young people could be in danger with. It's so sad.

I have to say though, I have never in my life heard of anything on the scale of the Jimmy Savile stuff. Horrendous, and absolutely terrifying to think of how the hell he got away with it. It is just sickening that he never lived to be put to justice. There are no words to describe how much of a monster he was- I only hope that the revelations will give comfort to his victims in so far as knowing that people are now listening and ready to support them... albeit far too late, I know. It's unbelievable really, the whole thing.

asherbassad

squod wrote: »

He wasn't a Catholic, he was a freemason.

??

The two aren't mutually exclusive.

mikom

Duggy747 wrote: »

The worst thing is that the cùnt died and got away with it.

Don't worry, God will get him.........

asherbassad

Meangadh wrote: »

See, that's the problem. I know the pitchfork bit was tongue-in-cheek (I hope!) but honestly it is getting to the stage where it is so difficult to have faith and confidence in anything anymore.

There have been such awful atrocities done to children by various groups/individuals that to put your children in the trust of anyone anymore is so difficult. And yet the vast, vast majority of those who work with young people want the very best for them... but constantly have to watch absolutely everything they do for fear of being seen as someone that young people could be in danger with. It's so sad.

I have to say though, I have never in my life heard of anything on the scale of the Jimmy Savile stuff. Horrendous, and absolutely terrifying to think of how the hell he got away with it. It is just sickening that he never lived to be put to justice. There are no words to describe how much of a monster he was- I only hope that the revelations will give comfort to his victims in so far as knowing that people are now listening and ready to support them... albeit far too late, I know. It's unbelievable really, the whole thing.

You could probably entrust your kids into the care of the local gang of goth guys and girls. Goths look spooky but they're really gentle, caring, intelligent people. If anything your kid would be told great mythology stories and be given a cool henna tattoo.

clairefontaine

They get away with it because everyone else likes to go into denial, even the parents. It is so horrendous to think about, that people convince themselves of its impossibility. He groomed the nation. Once you understand how grooming works, you will understand how they get away with it.