Romanian carol singers

Voltex

Just had a knock on the door 5 mins ago (so 21.25) with 2 Roma Romanian kids (confirmed by the Guards) singing or trying to in their broken English sing a bunch of Chirstmas carols.
I asked were they from our estate and if not where they were from...and I then noticed that when I started asking the questions a big bald dude appeared at the bottom of my driveway.
I handed them €0.50 between them and then went to look out the bedroom window. I saw the big bald dude surrounded by about 6 kids, giving them directions and instructions as to what to do. I then rang the guards and they told me theyve had a few calls this evening about them.

Just thinking that this type of begging is getting worse.Anyone else experience this?

super_furry

Why on earth did you ring the Gardai because of carol singers?

Death and Taxes

Voltex wrote: »

Just had a knock on the door 5 mins ago (so 21.25) with 2 Roma Romanian kids (confirmed by the Guards) singing or trying to in their broken English sing a bunch of Chirstmas carols.
I asked were they from our estate and if not where they were from...and I then noticed that when I started asking the questions a big bald dude appeared at the bottom of my driveway.
I handed them €0.50 between them and then went to look out the bedroom window. I saw the big bald dude surrounded by about 6 kids, giving them directions and instructions as to what to do. I then rang the guards and they told me theyve had a few calls this evening about them.

Just thinking that this type of begging is getting worse.Anyone else experience this?

Dey stole our carols!!!!:D

PizzamanIRL

Grinch.

Voltex

super_furry wrote: »

Why on earth did you ring the Gardai because of carol singers?

When I saw the big bald dude surrounded by the kids it was obvious that sharing festive singing talents was not their primary motivation.

Extinction

You gave them 50 cent and called the guards? Welcome to Boards Mr Scrooge.

jam_mac_jam

super_furry wrote: »

Why on earth did you ring the Gardai because of carol singers?

Because they are Roma?

Death and Taxes

Voltex wrote: »

When I saw the big bald dude surrounded by the kids it was obvious that sharing festive singing talents was not their primary motivation.

Absolutley! I mean baldies are famous for their bah humbug attitude!
Too many baldies about, they should bring in a law to deal with baldness:p

Voltex

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

Because they are Roma?

Confirmed by Gardai!

Duckworth_Luas

Daniel Timofte's kids?

Fr_Dougal

Voltex wrote: »

When I saw the big bald dude surrounded by the kids it was obvious that sharing festive singing talents was not their primary motivation.

How do you know? You did say they had broken english...

Death and Taxes

Voltex wrote: »

Confirmed by Gardai!

and?....your point is?

Strawberry Fields

Voltex wrote: »

and then went to look out the bedroom window.

What else did you do in the bedroom?

Voltex

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

How do you know? You did say they had broken english...

By the way he was gesturing with hands out..ie put 2 hands out you!

Voltex

Strawberry Fields wrote: »

What else did you do in the bedroom?

Logged onto boards!:D

matchthis

Should've played it xfactor style

Annasopra

What exactly did the guards confirm?

UDP

Just curious how do you know they were Romanian and not from some other country?

Voltex

WileyCoyote wrote: »

and?....your point is?

Well we could get into a conversation about the culture of Roma people and how they like to relieve people of their hard earned possessions, but thats probably against boards rules so we'll park that one!

Annasopra

UDP wrote: »

Just curious how do you know they were Romanian and not from some other country?

He doesn't

Voltex

mango salsa wrote: »

What exactly did the guards confirm?

That they were Roma Romanian..when I said they werent Irish kids. I didnt know myself exactly where they were from...but the Guards have ahada number of complaints this evening about them.

Death and Taxes

Voltex wrote: »

Well we could get into a conversation about the culture of Roma people and how they like to relieve people of their hard earned possessions, but thats probably against boards rules so we'll park that one!

yeah lets park the racism, now racism aside , what was your point?

PizzamanIRL

So, foreign carolers are out at night making an effort to get into the Christmas spirit in a different country and you ring the Gardai on them?

Well done.

B.A._Baracus

UDP wrote: »

Just curious how do you know they were Romanian and not from some other country?

So... the op opened the door, looked at them, proceeded to ask them questions, TALK TO THEM... and you are honestly asking him how he knew they were romanian?


bloody hell this world is becoming too pc. You cant say anything without stupid questions such as this. If the op said english you wouldnt be bloody asking him!

Annasopra

Voltex wrote: »

That they were Roma Romanian..when I said they werent Irish kids. I didnt know myself exactly where they were from...but the Guards have ahada number of complaints this evening about them.

You do know that all Roma are not Romanian don't you?

Voltex

mango salsa wrote: »

He doesn't

A rather presumptive reply I'd say!!

Extinction

Realy! A number of complaints about carol singers coming to the door at Christmas? I wish carol singers would come to my door regardless of where they are from.

F1ngers

Voltex wrote: »

Just had a knock on the door 5 mins ago (so 21.25) with 2 Roma Romanian kids (confirmed by the Guards) singing or trying to in their broken English sing a bunch of Chirstmas carols.
I asked were they from our estate and if not where they were from...and I then noticed that when I started asking the questions a big bald dude appeared at the bottom of my driveway.
I handed them €0.50 between them and then went to look out the bedroom window. I saw the big bald dude surrounded by about 6 kids, giving them directions and instructions as to what to do. I then rang the guards and they told me theyve had a few calls this evening about them.

Just thinking that this type of begging is getting worse.Anyone else experience this?

UDP wrote: »

Just curious how do you know they were Romanian and not from some other country?

mango salsa wrote: »

He doesn't

Which is it op?

Are they Roma or Romanian?

Completely different races.

strandroad

PizzamanIRL wrote: »

So, foreign carolers are out at night making an effort to get into the Christmas spirit in a different country and you ring the Gardai on them?

Well done.

Cue another thread on how Romanians do not integrate and make no effort to learn the language :rolleyes:

Voltex

mango salsa wrote: »

You do know that all Roma are not Romanian don't you?

TBH Im regurgitating what the Guards have said..I couldnt give a rats if they were Irish, English, Swiss or Chinese...calling at my door at half nine and pretending to be straight laced carol singers is not on...and then to watch their boss man domonstrate the correcvt money grabber tactics (i.e shove out 2 hands instead of 1) is a piss take!

Anyone

What carols did they sing?

Voltex

Anyone wrote: »

What carols did they sing?

I stopped them at Santa got stuck up a Chimney! after an half arsed attempt at Jingle Bells

strandroad

Voltex wrote: »

TBH Im regurgitating what the Guards have said..I couldnt give a rats if they were Irish, English, Swiss or Chinese...

If you're bothered by groups of Irish kids shepherded by adults in the driveway you must be beside yourself every Halloween

Extinction

Was it through their use of broken English that you were able to decipher what the 'boss man' was telling them? You did say they were about 6 so how do you know that it wasn't just a responsible adult looking after the children while they were out carol singing?

Boombastic

I heard they were up to this type of skulduggery around halloween aswell, calling around looking for money and sweets I heard.


On Monday night, I believe, a guy called santa will break in to peoples houses to leave presents, if you see him OP make sure and report him to the Garda too.

Voltex

WileyCoyote wrote: »

yeah lets park the racism, now racism aside , what was your point?

As I said I couldnt give a toss where they're from...but when you watch obvious money grabbing going on it tends to bug the s**t outta you.

Death and Taxes

Damm foinererz wont intigrate!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

or when they try we call the guards (Garda, theres a bunch of non Irish national kids trying to culturally integrate do something about it quick):pac:

Pottler

Op, nothing for it but to dig a moat and get yourself a drawbridge. That'll learn em.

golden lane

a person has a right to feel uneasy about groups or single people knocking at their door.....

the guards are there to reassure them if they are safe.....

if they are foreign, not knowing the language can make people feel more uneasy......


that is their right.........too many smart asses trying to take that right away, under the guise of others rights...

Death and Taxes

Voltex wrote: »

As I said I couldnt give a toss where they're from...but when you watch obvious money grabbing going on it tends to bug the s**t outta you.

Actually what you did was make a highly derogatory and insulting remark which generalized that criminal behaviour was a cultural trait of a specified ethnic group.

Duzzer

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Actually what you did was make a highly derogatory and insulting remark which generalized that criminal behaviour was a cultural trait of a specified ethnic group.

Why do you care? In the Roma world it's okay to make money through such ventures. Same as us having a business or something like that. Living in Balbriggan you should understand this more than most

Voltex

Extinction wrote: »

Was it through their use of broken English that you were able to decipher what the 'boss man' was telling them? You did say they were about 6 so how do you know that it wasn't just a responsible adult looking after the children while they were out carol singing?

Have you ever come across a principle called Occam's Razor? Its one i usually live by...but I like to call it gut instinct!!

orestes

Voltex wrote: »

As I said I couldnt give a toss where they're from...but when you watch obvious money grabbing going on it tends to bug the s**t outta you.

Then why is it the first word in the title of the thread?

Extinction

golden lane wrote: »

a person has a right to feel uneasy about groups or single people knocking at their door.....

the guards are there to reassure them if they are safe.....

if they are foreign, not knowing the language can make people feel more uneasy......


that is their right.........too many smart asses trying to take that right away, under the guise of others rights...

The guards surely have more to be doing than reassuring the OP that he is safe from 6 year old carolers.

nbar12

you should have done a Mr.Bean...

Extinction

Voltex wrote: »

Have you ever come across a principle called Occam's Razor? Its one i usually live by...but I like to call it gut instinct!!

Most people would call your gut instinct in this situation racist.

Eve_Dublin

If they were Roma then they were probably begging to survive....and you called the Gardai on them? They weren't stealing, they were begging. That's not a crime. People usually do that when they're desperate.

And please don't tell me they all live in mansions in Romania or some ****. I can take you to a shanty town outside Madrid where hundreds and hundreds of Roma gypsies live in abject poverty. I've been there and I've seen it with my own eyes.

If somebody wants to sing some Carols to get some money from me, I can't see a problem with that. Tragic that's what kids have to do around Christmas but it's not criminal. They can do nothing right in some people's eyes, it seems.


Really can't believe you called the police on them. :mad:

golden lane

Extinction wrote: »

The guards surely have more to be doing than reassuring the OP that he is safe from 6 year old carolers.

the right to feel safe in your own home.......may be a joke to you, but to many it has been a very big and serious mistake.....

especially when you get big bald fellas dressed as six year olds, or did you miss that bit...

Plazaman

Wait a minute...

2 x Kids @ 1 Carol = 0.50 per 1 song @ 6.7 minutes per house
6 x Kids @ 3 Carols = 1.50 per 3 songs

Housing Estates = 50 houses answering doors max = €20.10 per hour

Well worth calling the fuzz.

osheen

I understand why the op posted and the gaurds more or less confirmed it .
Its organised begging
roma gangs use children to beg not for the childs benefit but for the gang boss ie bald guy

Higher

Em whats wrong with them carol singing?

Also could you change the thread title, fair enough if you want to say Roma Carol Singers but its not fair to have Romanian there.