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Who is receiving 7 West and Badr 4 at 26 E in Dublin and rest of Ireland please?

  • 22-12-2012 1:11am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭


    I hope to have my six foot high satellite dish fixed and working for Christmas to watch movies and series in English during the Christmas duration. Tell us you knowledgeable people here on boards what you are receiving, the full transponder frequencies, which transponders to align any of the above satellites to and what size dish, type of LNB and location in Dublin and the rest of Ireland please. Tried an Inclinometer but the dishes elevation bracket was different than the ones shown online. Any other easy suggestions to find the exact elevation angle for a dish with no measurements shown? Please can as many people as possible help us out and respond to this thread. Installers are more than welcome also. Thanks all. I will wait with excitement until everyone is awake for answers later today at a decent hour, goodnight all. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,568 ✭✭✭Gerry Wicklow


    I used to have Badr4 on a 90cm dish in south Wickla. I got occasional rain fade as the dish was too small. It was very tricky to align without proper test gear as it was being swamped by the much stronger 28° stuff. They show a good selection of movies in English but the Arabic subtitles can be quite large and annoying at times. But, hey, for a freebie you can't complain :)

    Happy Xmas to all on Boards.
    Gerry ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    You mean you couldn't fix the inclinometer to the dish? There must be some way of doing it & getting a reasonably accurate reading.

    I think you mentioned before that it's an offset dish. You probably know this already, but if it's an offset dish, you'll need to do some simple calculations (& know the offset angle) to get the proper setting.

    The attached document should be of some use.

    When searching for Badr 4, it would be a good idea to use this tp: Yemen Mux., DVB-S, 12182 H, SR 16200. This symbol rate isn't used @ 28 east, so you'll avoid confusion.

    A few photos of this big dish mightn't go to loss, either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    I couldn't figure out the last time where to place the Inclinometer at the back of the dish. There is a galvanised circular steel fitting bracket screwed on to the dish at the back of it and the elevation bracket is bolted on to a steel plate at the front of that. The dish arm is screwed on under the bottom of the dish, there are also some tiny lead shot dents it seems in the dish near the bottom of the face and above the centre of it, the previous owner has a shotgun, they didn't penetrate the dish fully though, they weren't visible until after he had left that evening in the dark. The dirt was cleaned off it the following day. I am sure that I could tap them out and fill them in with metal epoxy and sand and spray paint over them. It was the big white free dish that I got about two months ago off Adverts.ie and paid him petrol money to deliver it to me. :D I have never had any problems for other satellites on 90cm dish or an 80 or 65 for that matter either but they all have elevation readings at the back of the dish and I bought them new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Is it even possible to receive any of the satellites at 7 West, Nilesat vertical transponders for instance here in Dublin or Ireland and what sizes of dishes would be needed? More English content on there including Top Movies and the MBC channels also. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    You mean you couldn't fix the inclinometer to the dish? There must be some way of doing it & getting a reasonably accurate reading.

    I think you mentioned before that it's an offset dish. You probably know this already, but if it's an offset dish, you'll need to do some simple calculations (& know the offset angle) to get the proper setting.

    The attached document should be of some use.

    When searching for Badr 4, it would be a good idea to use this tp: Yemen Mux., DVB-S, 12182 H, SR 16200. This symbol rate isn't used @ 28 east, so you'll avoid confusion.

    A few photos of this big dish mightn't go to loss, either.
    I will try to take some photos of the dish later today, I ran out of paint and have to spray both sides over the twelve days of Christmas though as it has spots of a different colour of white on it. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Here are some quick photos of the back, front and side of the dish Peter, the dish needs to be sanded and resprayed soon, the bottom of the dish under the arm needs to be hammered upwards underneath as it is slightly bulging out downwards where the arm was attached, all parts, cables are still there apart from one broken LNB and Global diplexer from the previous owner.
    I will put a Ross LNB on to the dish and screw it on tightly later, barrel also needs to be bashed in further to make sure that it isn't hindering the elevation and movement of the dish in front. The dish will also be moved near the top of the old pole given to me.
    Where exactly should the inclinometer be placed at the back please Peter?
    The shed on the left visible is also in the general direction of 26E according to my magnetic compass. The dish is going to be well above the gutter level once it is positioned at the top of the pole, the pole was erected using two small spirit levels and was bang on level and at right angles when set. Does the arm look as if the previous owner had it on the correct way up? It is a heavy dish, I had to use two different lengths of steel wire rope to hook it up on to the pole to lift it up over nine feet high, although I can lift it over my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    You mean you couldn't fix the inclinometer to the dish? There must be some way of doing it & getting a reasonably accurate reading.

    I think you mentioned before that it's an offset dish. You probably know this already, but if it's an offset dish, you'll need to do some simple calculations (& know the offset angle) to get the proper setting.

    The attached document should be of some use.

    When searching for Badr 4, it would be a good idea to use this tp: Yemen Mux., DVB-S, 12182 H, SR 16200. This symbol rate isn't used @ 28 east, so you'll avoid confusion.

    A few photos of this big dish mightn't go to loss, either.
    Thanks for your reply, much appreciated, I have uploaded some photos of the dish earlier above this posting in the thread. I Hope to be able do something later before it gets dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,879 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    FREETV wrote: »
    Is it even possible to receive any of the satellites at 7 West, Nilesat vertical transponders for instance here in Dublin or Ireland and what sizes of dishes would be needed? More English content on there including Top Movies and the MBC channels also. ;)

    You should have no trouble receiving Badr 4. The footprint covers here and I get it even in rain on 1.1 m dish.

    http://www.arabsat.com/pages/BADR4.aspx

    I get enough signal on 7 West to scan in some channels on Eutelsat 7 West A (not the Nilesats) occasionally. But you would probably need a 3 m dish or bigger to give any sort of reliable reception. If you are going to try line up the dish on 8 West first.

    http://www.3pmfooty.com/nilesat.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    You should have no trouble receiving Badr 4. The footprint covers here and I get it even in rain on 1.1 m dish.

    http://www.arabsat.com/pages/BADR4.aspx

    I get enough signal on 7 West to scan in some channels on Eutelsat 7 West A (not the Nilesats) occasionally. But you would probably need a 3 m dish or bigger to give any sort of reliable reception. If you are going to try line up the dish on 8 West first.

    http://www.3pmfooty.com/nilesat.htm

    Thanks dxhound2005 Is Top Movies receivable or any other movie stations in English with the Arabic subtitles? What channels and transponders can you receive from 7 West please?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Ronnie Raygun


    FREETV wrote: »
    ... Where exactly should the inclinometer be placed at the back

    Whatever flat surface you can find. If you place the meter on the central part, you'll have to take the offset into account. Any flat surface lower down might actually serve this purpose & give a true elevation reading.

    Then you have to hope that the whole thing is even capable of focusing a signal. Might only be good for the skip.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,879 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    FREETV wrote: »
    Thanks dxhound2005 Is Top Movies receivable or any other movie stations in English with the Arabic subtitles? What channels and transponders can you receive from 7 West please?

    I gave you all the information about my reception of 7 West before, post #21 here.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81884247

    There are hundreds of channels you can look them up on Lyngsat or similar. I am not getting anything at present and I doubt if you will even with a 2 metre dish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    I gave you all the information about my reception of 7 West before, post #21 here.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81884247

    There are hundreds of channels you can look them up on Lyngsat or similar. I am not getting anything at present and I doubt if you will even with a 2 metre dish.

    Thanks dxhound, I will try for Badr4 so very soon. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭karl200607


    I am in dublin with a td 1.1 and black ultra single lnb and I get a strong signal from badr 4 mbc and dubai one are usually at 78% breakup level is at 49% on the technomate 5402 I use at 7.3 west I get fox movies and fox at 55% top movies 52% panarama action 53% play movies 59% and mbc at 57% in the evening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    karl200607 wrote: »
    I am in dublin with a td 1.1 and black ultra single lnb and I get a strong signal from badr 4 mbc and dubai one are usually at 78% breakup level is at 49% on the technomate 5402 I use at 7.3 west I get fox movies and fox at 55% top movies 52% panarama action 53% play movies 59% and mbc at 57% in the evening

    So at 7.3 West it is only possible for you to get reception in the evenings?
    Top Movies isn't receivable so? Are you using a motorised setup for both or a multi-LNB set up? I would love to see some photos of your dish if possible please? How far apart are both satellites from each LNB I wonder? Thanks Karl. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭karl200607


    Hi I have a motorised dish during the day I can get fox and fox movies 5555 tv movies and play movies with top movies jsc sports 1 and 2 and mbc coming in at around 6 I had nearly all day reception during the summer it is slighty weaker during the winter the dish has to be perfectly aligned and with a reciever with a very sensitive tuner id say a 1.2m quality made dish would give a solid signal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    karl200607 wrote: »
    Hi I have a motorised dish during the day I can get fox and fox movies 5555 tv movies and play movies with top movies jsc sports 1 and 2 and mbc coming in at around 6 I had nearly all day reception during the summer it is slighty weaker during the winter the dish has to be perfectly aligned and with a reciever with a very sensitive tuner id say a 1.2m quality made dish would give a solid signal

    Is it difficult to find 7 West without a professional meter or a usals motorised set up? How far left or right is the satellite from 26 E? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭karl200607


    Yea its difficult to lock onto without a pro meter the bigger the dish the harder it gets its about its about 33 degrees away from 26 east best to align to 8 west using one of the very strong tps then very slowly move the dish left standing behind it and use 11430 v 27500 this is one of the strongest on 7.3 west u will probly need to adjust the lnb arm up or down a bit to fine tune also u may improve the signal by moving the lnb closer to the dish is that a 1.5 gibertini u have u should be able to get 7.3 west as the gain is much better than a td 110


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    karl200607 wrote: »
    Yea its difficult to lock onto without a pro meter the bigger the dish the harder it gets its about its about 33 degrees away from 26 east best to align to 8 west using one of the very strong tps then very slowly move the dish left standing behind it and use 11430 v 27500 this is one of the strongest on 7.3 west u will probly need to adjust the lnb arm up or down a bit to fine tune also u may improve the signal by moving the lnb closer to the dish is that a 1.5 gibertini u have u should be able to get 7.3 west as the gain is much better than a td 110
    To be honest I have no clue what make it is as I got it free off a nice Lithuanian man a few years younger than me from his ad on adverts.ie and he delivered it in his van and I paid him twenty euros for his time and petrol.
    He wasn't sure of its make but it may even be a Chinese dish or maybe an old Gibertini. There is no name on the dish parts. I couldn't find any dish similar to it online, it must be at least six years or more old by now. I never owned a dish with an elevation bracket the same as the photos of the dish which I uploaded yesterday. The man said that the satellite they watched can no longer be received in Ireland for about the 18 months or more at this stage so it was no longer needed and it wasn't in use. Did they fit the arm of the dish the correct way up? I presume they did as he didn't install it when they used it. Probably Peter Rhea may recognise the make of dish. 8 and 7 W are to the right of 26 E I take it? I hope that it will work later today. It will test my patience. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭karl200607


    7 west is to the right of 26 east if u are standing behind the dish try and lock onto 12169 v 27500 which has a channel called mergab 2 or 11430 v 27500 and then try top movies on 10873 v 27500 fox is on 11296 h 27500 and mbc on 12322 v 27500


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Happy Christmas to everyone on Boards and Thanks Karl. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    I wonder was the dish arm put on incorrectly by the previous owner as I couldn't get any signal quality only 85% signal intensity.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Well I tried on Christmas Eve to get a signal but I had to go to a party so had to give up, no signal quality at all, I don't know whether my dish is still obstructed, damaged and won't focus, dish arm wasn't fitted correctly by the previous owners or was at the wrong elevation angles. Any ideas? Photos are further down the satellite forum of the dish. I can take more photos if needed. I will try to receive 28E later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Well, I am afraid that I won't be able to try my dish for a while as a huge gust just blew it still inside the oil barrel backwards off its base even though it was filled with concrete and loads of blocks and concreted to the base. A few dents but otherwise okay. I don't know how I will be able to lift the barrel now, think I will treat myself and just buy a new 1.25 Metre dish along with a new LNB with my Christmas money and try to receive those satellites using a two or two and a half inch mast to hold one in place. The destructive power of nature huh! What a wallop sound it made outside when I was in the kitchen. The gust was very loud a second before that. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭byrnefm


    My brother and I plan to try to get 7W some weekend when we have time as we've heard that for some reason, some people in the UK can receive it on 1m dishes, though they didn't mention which channels they got. We've a 1.2m.

    Currently the dish is locked on to 26E and despite the strong winds of late and the trickiness of getting it tuned in in the first place, we haven't lost the channels. We don't get all the 26E channels (since some are tight over N. Africa) but do get MBCs at least, which are very stable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    byrnefm wrote: »
    My brother and I plan to try to get 7W some weekend when we have time as we've heard that for some reason, some people in the UK can receive it on 1m dishes, though they didn't mention which channels they got. We've a 1.2m.

    Currently the dish is locked on to 26E and despite the strong winds of late and the trickiness of getting it tuned in in the first place, we haven't lost the channels. We don't get all the 26E channels (since some are tight over N. Africa) but do get MBCs at least, which are very stable.

    I have another 1.25M dish, I will try probably tomorrow with a cheap LNB to see what I can receive. Older dish will have to be repaired and guyed in place, far too much wind load to stay up high. I reckon that the previous owner had the arm upside down.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    This site might be worth a look. You could even provide some reception reports.

    I think it's run by the guy that posts as 'pedro2000' or something, in DS & avforums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    This site might be worth a look. You could even provide some reception reports.

    I think it's run by the guy that posts as 'pedro2000' or something, in DS & avforums.

    Thanks,yes I saw that before when typing in various key words in to Google and I have the page bookmarked a couple of weeks or more, what do you think of the dish arm that was bolted on by the previous owner of the dish? I reckon that is upside down. My old dish looks like Raven or Gibertini, very strong, an 80 MPH gust I'd say knocked it over and it fell on top of a step ladder with the result of luckily just a few easily repairable dents on it.:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    I would say the dish was assembled correctly.

    I'm not even sure how you would 'string' an offset dish (stretch strings across & see how they meet up). Yours might only be good for the scrap man. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Pat X


    You seem to have a collection of hardware (dishes at least), & seem to ask a lot of questions here, but offer nothing in return?

    What channels are you getting on your existing stock?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    Pat X wrote: »
    You seem to have a collection of hardware (dishes at least), & seem to ask a lot of questions here, but offer nothing in return?

    What channels are you getting on your existing stock?

    I started the thread Pat X and anyway not trying to be smart but I couldn't get the old dish to work even using smart phone software. I had to ask questions as I couldn't understand why I didn't get any results. Peter and another poster said it may be unusable as the previous owner lost his signal and the dishes curve on the face maybe out of line/ whack. I only got a new smaller dish today. I have used dishes for 28E, Hotbird at 13.0 and Astra 19.2E with zero problems and I have helped others with installations for those satellites and for terrestrial reception also. If and when I receive 7.2 W and 26E then I will certainly help anyone out as much as I can in the future on boards. I am trying to learn as much as I can. I have given away smaller dishes to various members of my family and installed them also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭iba


    byrnefm wrote: »
    My brother and I plan to try to get 7W some weekend when we have time as we've heard that for some reason, some people in the UK can receive it on 1m dishes, though they didn't mention which channels they got. We've a 1.2m.

    Currently the dish is locked on to 26E and despite the strong winds of late and the trickiness of getting it tuned in in the first place, we haven't lost the channels. We don't get all the 26E channels (since some are tight over N. Africa) but do get MBCs at least, which are very stable.

    Hi,

    Would love to see a pic of your dish and LNBs etc.

    I too have my dish pointed at 26e but its been a bit flaky over the last couple of days here in Dublin, although I didnt think the weather was that bad at all. Im also using the Black Ultra LNB (The best on the market or so Im told). What elevation do you have your dish at?

    BTW I totally agree that its a bit tricky to set up in the 1st instance, but MBC does make up for it (and Dubai 1).

    Regards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    iba wrote: »
    Hi,

    Would love to see a pic of your dish and LNBs etc.

    I too have my dish pointed at 26e but its been a bit flaky over the last couple of days here in Dublin, although I didnt think the weather was that bad at all. Im also using the Black Ultra LNB (The best on the market or so Im told). What elevation do you have your dish at?

    BTW I totally agree that its a bit tricky to set up in the 1st instance, but MBC does make up for it (and Dubai 1).

    Regards
    That is a nice neat set up iba, is the dish very close to the back of the house? Is it high up? Do you know where either in Ireland or abroad to get the cheapest Inverto Black Ultra LNB? I assume that it is their high gain which separates them from the rest as their noise factor level is 0.2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭iba


    FREETV wrote: »
    That is a nice neat set up iba, is the dish very close to the back of the house? Is it high up? Do you know where either in Ireland or abroad to get the cheapest Inverto Black Ultra LNB? I assume that it is their high gain which separates them from the rest as their noise factor level is 0.2.

    Thanks

    Those pics are a bit old so I just took some new ones now - its a bit tidier

    Its on a shed at the back of the house - only I guess about 6feet up

    Yes its the high gain one - the cheapest place I foud was an ebay seller in the UK - came in at around €26 - €28 - cant remember exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭iba


    a couple more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    iba wrote: »
    Thanks

    Those pics are a bit old so I just took some new ones now - its a bit tidier

    Its on a shed at the back of the house - only I guess about 6feet up

    Yes its the high gain one - the cheapest place I foud was an ebay seller in the UK - came in at around €26 - €28 - cant remember exactly
    Thanks iba, I will put my early Birthday money to good use so.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 246 ✭✭pelisor2000


    Forget about the Nilesat.. maybe with 2-2.5m satellite dish.
    http://www.flysat.com/nilesat-beam.php
    http://www.flysat.com/e7wa-beam.php


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭byrnefm


    iba wrote: »
    Hi,

    Would love to see a pic of your dish and LNBs etc.

    Regards

    I'll try to remember to get some when I'm next visiting him (it's at his house as opposed to mine, he's near Killybegs). Can't remember which LNB he's using but I'll ask him in the meantime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 892 ✭✭✭byrnefm


    Forget about the Nilesat.. maybe with 2-2.5m satellite dish.
    http://www.flysat.com/nilesat-beam.php
    http://www.flysat.com/e7wa-beam.php

    Hmm. Based on that 'Strong Channels List' it's not looking too hopeful... oh well. Worst comes to the worse, we just retune the dish to 26E...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    I tried yesterday with my new 125cm sat dish to get reception of different Badr 4 transpondersd using leftover RG6 and a Ross 0.3 65db single Lnb never used before which I bought two years ago but could get nothing on 26E only 28.2E, 19.2E and 13.0E and there is only about a degree difference in elevation between 28E and 26E here. I have ordered more Webro WF100 and an Inverto Black Ultra quad lnb which should be here by mid week next week, any suggestions please? Maybe the Ross lnb has too much noise while also being swamped by 28E? The Yemen transponder was tried also, I didn't try for 7.2 West yet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    I posted about my own limited dealings with Badr 4 here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=78469839&postcount=113

    TD110 with the lnb from a Lidl kit, & the whole lot mounted on a wobbly set of goalposts. No problems getting a stable signal & stayed that way for the couple of hours I had it set up. Not much point trying any fine-tuning, due to the unstable nature of the mounting . . .

    Haven't got back to it since.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭iba


    FREETV wrote: »
    I tried yesterday with my new 125cm sat dish to get reception of different Badr 4 transpondersd using leftover RG6 and a Ross 0.3 65db single Lnb never used before which I bought two years ago but could get nothing on 26E only 28.2E, 19.2E and 13.0E and there is only about a degree difference in elevation between 28E and 26E here. I have ordered more Webro WF100 and an Inverto Black Ultra quad lnb which should be here by mid week next week, any suggestions please? Maybe the Ross lnb has too much noise while also being swamped by 28E? The Yemen transponder was tried also, I didn't try for 7.2 West yet.

    Im using the black ultra on 26, no problem - previously had other LNBs and they worked too but just decided to upgrade to the best.

    It can be done, perservere. I think I used 11919 as the base of my signal, the transponeder for the MBC stations

    Post a pic of what u have, I mean ur dish, it might help us to help u


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    For what its worth I am currently wrecking my own head adding 25.8E to my multibracket. Completely repositioned my dish to try and do this. I have come to the conclusion that you cannot add this particular sat without fecking up the rest of your multibracket positions even after repositioning as it messes up the natural elevation at full tilt on the bracket - one knocks out the other.

    I was originally centrally positioned around 16E. Left to right I had 28/19/13/9&10/4.8. The bracket was reversed i.e. still using the central drill point but using the bottom groove screwed in to get more tilt. And they were all fine. Adding 25.8E even with a slim lnb you would think would just mean slotting it in between 28 and 19. Not so. The multibracket on the left is tilted too high (in order to maximise reception of 28.2 at the highest point and 4.8E on the lowest on the bottom right - i.e following the arc. I actually found that 25.8E position is off the multibracket past 28e (!) and down half an LNB in elevation. Which means you would have to gunther a bracket to hang off the 28.2 LNB. Even still I couldnt pick up MBC, just the Dubai Sports Channels and more importantly Dubai Racing! About 60%.

    This is on a TD88 so I know I have pushed the boundaries of what this size dish is meant to do with a Triax multibracket.

    So I copied IBA's setup drilling the multibracket at the quarter but it fecks up the elevation and the arc of the other sats completely (yes I had to manually readjust as I expected to). I get the impression that my original setup was possibly the best I could get with that bracket and to add from there. Unfortunately with changing the drill point on the bracket I have effectively lost my further most 4.8E LNB.

    But!!!!! I will not be defeated and will continue to get it just right. Will give it a go tomorrow weather permitting. One thing that was annoying was that I couldnt see the MBC's whatsover. Is Dubai Sports channels etc stronger ?

    One question for IBA, How did you position your 26E LNB on the centre arm when the bracket holder is there ? Perhaps a photos of what you did at the mid point. This may be the root of my issue.

    Of course the up down bracket positioners would eliminate all this, but that would be cheating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    How far precisely is 26E to the left of 28.2E, an inch? Less? More? I'll try again tomorrow hopefully with the old hardly used Comag Silvercrest SL65. Thank you all. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭iba


    STB wrote: »
    For what its worth I am currently wrecking my own head adding 25.8E to my multibracket. Completely repositioned my dish to try and do this. I have come to the conclusion that you cannot add this particular sat without fecking up the rest of your multibracket positions even after repositioning as it messes up the natural elevation at full tilt on the bracket - one knocks out the other.

    I was originally centrally positioned around 16E. Left to right I had 28/19/13/9&10/4.8. The bracket was reversed i.e. still using the central drill point but using the bottom groove screwed in to get more tilt. And they were all fine. Adding 25.8E even with a slim lnb you would think would just mean slotting it in between 28 and 19. Not so. The multibracket on the left is tilted too high (in order to maximise reception of 28.2 at the highest point and 4.8E on the lowest on the bottom right - i.e following the arc. I actually found that 25.8E position is off the multibracket past 28e (!) and down half an LNB in elevation. Which means you would have to gunther a bracket to hang off the 28.2 LNB. Even still I couldnt pick up MBC, just the Dubai Sports Channels and more importantly Dubai Racing! About 60%.

    This is on a TD88 so I know I have pushed the boundaries of what this size dish is meant to do with a Triax multibracket.

    So I copied IBA's setup drilling the multibracket at the quarter but it fecks up the elevation and the arc of the other sats completely (yes I had to manually readjust as I expected to). I get the impression that my original setup was possibly the best I could get with that bracket and to add from there. Unfortunately with changing the drill point on the bracket I have effectively lost my further most 4.8E LNB.

    But!!!!! I will not be defeated and will continue to get it just right. Will give it a go tomorrow weather permitting. One thing that was annoying was that I couldnt see the MBC's whatsover. Is Dubai Sports channels etc stronger ?

    One question for IBA, How did you position your 26E LNB on the centre arm when the bracket holder is there ? Perhaps a photos of what you did at the mid point. This may be the root of my issue.

    Of course the up down bracket positioners would eliminate all this, but that would be cheating.

    Ill do a photo 4 u tomorrow - but basically I think I put the LNB Brachet on its side and drilled a hole through it to attach it to the multibracket arm - I then tied/held the bracket closed with a piece o gardening plastic wire (sorry I cant think of a better word for it) - you will see in my pics the green thing.

    I dont know what to suggest to you STB, but Id love to help you since you help me so much - but tune in your box, leave MBC2 on and ust keep moving your dish ever ever so slightly.

    It does work, but with just the ordinary Triax arm, there is no way you will get 4.8 on it

    As I said before, I have 28, 26, 19 and 13 but Im going to change soon to try and get 28, 26, 13 & 10 (PLTV :))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭iba


    FREETV wrote: »
    How far precisely is 26E to the left of 28.2E, an inch? Less? More? I'll try again tomorrow hopefully with the old hardly used Comag Silvercrest SL65. Thank you all. :)

    Look at my pics, it is about an inch

    I had one of those boxes before and its grand - I picked up MBC on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭FREETV


    iba wrote: »
    Look at my pics, it is about an inch

    I had one of those boxes before and its grand - I picked up MBC on it

    Okay so if I just select the MBC 11919 H 27500 transponder and I have the signal strength and quality meter showing and I move it an inch or so to the left of 28.2E then MBC will then be received by the SL65 and the channel will show up on the right on the small screen? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭swoofer


    stb, why call it 25.5 its 26% and with a 78 you are going to struggle, to get this one it has to spot on, 90cm is recommended for where you are. look here
    http://www.arabsat.com/pages/BADR4.aspx

    I am in the west with a triax 1.1m and the black ultra and get 88s 54q. And the receiver needs a good tuner. your best bet is try dish with one lnb on arm, ie dont use bracket, set dish up exactly as per dish pointer and then use 12054 V for one and 11919h for other.

    i will be surprised if you get it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    GBCULLEN wrote: »
    stb, why call it 25.5 its 26% and with a 78 you are going to struggle, to get this one it has to spot on, 90cm is recommended for where you are. look here
    http://www.arabsat.com/pages/BADR4.aspx

    I am in the west with a triax 1.1m and the black ultra and get 88s 54q. And the receiver needs a good tuner. your best bet is try dish with one lnb on arm, ie dont use bracket, set dish up exactly as per dish pointer and then use 12054 V for one and 11919h for other.

    i will be surprised if you get it

    25.8E is what I called it which is BADR2 ? BADR3 is 26E and C is 26.2E ? No ? Either way on my Ctech 5000C (ultra sensitive) tuning box its in as 25.8E on the pretuned Sats!

    I have a TD88, not 78 and am using Inverto Black Ultras and Inverto Slimlines for the weaker sats. I am in the South East.

    If I can fine tune 10E and 4.8E on a multibracket I am sure the other wont be too much of a problem, but my experiences so far, not so good, but I will persist.

    Hey the worst thing that can happen in the event that it doesn't work out is that I take a lump hammer to the dish and use it as an excuse to buy a get a ginormous one. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭iba


    FREETV wrote: »
    Okay so if I just select the MBC 11919 H 27500 transponder and I have the signal strength and quality meter showing and I move it an inch or so to the left of 28.2E then MBC will then be received by the SL65 and the channel will show up on the right on the small screen? :)

    Im not sure what yourset up is - but Id advise not touse anybrackets or anything at the moment and justhave the one LNB on the min arm of the dish and try and lock onto MBC

    Tell me though (I cant remember) is 26 actually a preloaded sat on that box.

    Other strong stations on 26 are Saudi Sports, Dubai sports and the Al-Jazeera stations.

    if you post a pic it might help too.

    Also the elevation of your dish is important - I cant remember what mine is at, but I think GB Cullen is good at telling what elevations should be used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭iba


    GBCULLEN wrote: »
    stb, why call it 25.5 its 26% and with a 78 you are going to struggle, to get this one it has to spot on, 90cm is recommended for where you are. look here
    http://www.arabsat.com/pages/BADR4.aspx

    I am in the west with a triax 1.1m and the black ultra and get 88s 54q. And the receiver needs a good tuner. your best bet is try dish with one lnb on arm, ie dont use bracket, set dish up exactly as per dish pointer and then use 12054 V for one and 11919h for other.

    i will be surprised if you get it

    I was wondering why he was saying 25.5 but I didnt want to say anything because STB knows a hell of a lot more than me. But yes I agree, its 26

    What does the 88s and 54q refer to above?

    Yes I agree, just use the main arm to start with and then afterwards use the bracket.

    I can get MBC etc on my Ariva 120, 250 and Humax.

    also I wanted to ask, what is the best elevation I should have my dish at - im in Dublin 15?

    thanks


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