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Who is receiving 7 West and Badr 4 at 26 E in Dublin and rest of Ireland please?

FREETV

I hope to have my six foot high satellite dish fixed and working for Christmas to watch movies and series in English during the Christmas duration. Tell us you knowledgeable people here on boards what you are receiving, the full transponder frequencies, which transponders to align any of the above satellites to and what size dish, type of LNB and location in Dublin and the rest of Ireland please. Tried an Inclinometer but the dishes elevation bracket was different than the ones shown online. Any other easy suggestions to find the exact elevation angle for a dish with no measurements shown? Please can as many people as possible help us out and respond to this thread. Installers are more than welcome also. Thanks all. I will wait with excitement until everyone is awake for answers later today at a decent hour, goodnight all.

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Gerry Wicklow

I used to have Badr4 on a 90cm dish in south Wickla. I got occasional rain fade as the dish was too small. It was very tricky to align without proper test gear as it was being swamped by the much stronger 28° stuff. They show a good selection of movies in English but the Arabic subtitles can be quite large and annoying at times. But, hey, for a freebie you can't complain

Happy Xmas to all on Boards.
Gerry

Peter Rhea

You mean you couldn't fix the inclinometer to the dish? There must be some way of doing it & getting a reasonably accurate reading.

I think you mentioned before that it's an offset dish. You probably know this already, but if it's an offset dish, you'll need to do some simple calculations (& know the offset angle) to get the proper setting.

The attached document should be of some use.

When searching for Badr 4, it would be a good idea to use this tp: Yemen Mux., DVB-S, 12182 H, SR 16200. This symbol rate isn't used @ 28 east, so you'll avoid confusion.

A few photos of this big dish mightn't go to loss, either.

FREETV

I couldn't figure out the last time where to place the Inclinometer at the back of the dish. There is a galvanised circular steel fitting bracket screwed on to the dish at the back of it and the elevation bracket is bolted on to a steel plate at the front of that. The dish arm is screwed on under the bottom of the dish, there are also some tiny lead shot dents it seems in the dish near the bottom of the face and above the centre of it, the previous owner has a shotgun, they didn't penetrate the dish fully though, they weren't visible until after he had left that evening in the dark. The dirt was cleaned off it the following day. I am sure that I could tap them out and fill them in with metal epoxy and sand and spray paint over them. It was the big white free dish that I got about two months ago off Adverts.ie and paid him petrol money to deliver it to me.

I have never had any problems for other satellites on 90cm dish or an 80 or 65 for that matter either but they all have elevation readings at the back of the dish and I bought them new.

FREETV

Is it even possible to receive any of the satellites at 7 West, Nilesat vertical transponders for instance here in Dublin or Ireland and what sizes of dishes would be needed? More English content on there including Top Movies and the MBC channels also.

FREETV

Peter Rhea wrote: »

You mean you couldn't fix the inclinometer to the dish? There must be some way of doing it & getting a reasonably accurate reading.

I think you mentioned before that it's an offset dish. You probably know this already, but if it's an offset dish, you'll need to do some simple calculations (& know the offset angle) to get the proper setting.

The attached document should be of some use.

When searching for Badr 4, it would be a good idea to use this tp: Yemen Mux., DVB-S, 12182 H, SR 16200. This symbol rate isn't used @ 28 east, so you'll avoid confusion.

A few photos of this big dish mightn't go to loss, either.

I will try to take some photos of the dish later today, I ran out of paint and have to spray both sides over the twelve days of Christmas though as it has spots of a different colour of white on it.

FREETV

Here are some quick photos of the back, front and side of the dish Peter, the dish needs to be sanded and resprayed soon, the bottom of the dish under the arm needs to be hammered upwards underneath as it is slightly bulging out downwards where the arm was attached, all parts, cables are still there apart from one broken LNB and Global diplexer from the previous owner.
I will put a Ross LNB on to the dish and screw it on tightly later, barrel also needs to be bashed in further to make sure that it isn't hindering the elevation and movement of the dish in front. The dish will also be moved near the top of the old pole given to me.
Where exactly should the inclinometer be placed at the back please Peter?
The shed on the left visible is also in the general direction of 26E according to my magnetic compass. The dish is going to be well above the gutter level once it is positioned at the top of the pole, the pole was erected using two small spirit levels and was bang on level and at right angles when set. Does the arm look as if the previous owner had it on the correct way up? It is a heavy dish, I had to use two different lengths of steel wire rope to hook it up on to the pole to lift it up over nine feet high, although I can lift it over my head.

FREETV

Peter Rhea wrote: »

You mean you couldn't fix the inclinometer to the dish? There must be some way of doing it & getting a reasonably accurate reading.

I think you mentioned before that it's an offset dish. You probably know this already, but if it's an offset dish, you'll need to do some simple calculations (& know the offset angle) to get the proper setting.

The attached document should be of some use.

When searching for Badr 4, it would be a good idea to use this tp: Yemen Mux., DVB-S, 12182 H, SR 16200. This symbol rate isn't used @ 28 east, so you'll avoid confusion.

A few photos of this big dish mightn't go to loss, either.

Thanks for your reply, much appreciated, I have uploaded some photos of the dish earlier above this posting in the thread. I Hope to be able do something later before it gets dark.

dxhound2005

FREETV wrote: »

Is it even possible to receive any of the satellites at 7 West, Nilesat vertical transponders for instance here in Dublin or Ireland and what sizes of dishes would be needed? More English content on there including Top Movies and the MBC channels also.

You should have no trouble receiving Badr 4. The footprint covers here and I get it even in rain on 1.1 m dish.

http://www.arabsat.com/pages/BADR4.aspx

I get enough signal on 7 West to scan in some channels on Eutelsat 7 West A (not the Nilesats) occasionally. But you would probably need a 3 m dish or bigger to give any sort of reliable reception. If you are going to try line up the dish on 8 West first.

http://www.3pmfooty.com/nilesat.htm

FREETV

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You should have no trouble receiving Badr 4. The footprint covers here and I get it even in rain on 1.1 m dish.

http://www.arabsat.com/pages/BADR4.aspx

I get enough signal on 7 West to scan in some channels on Eutelsat 7 West A (not the Nilesats) occasionally. But you would probably need a 3 m dish or bigger to give any sort of reliable reception. If you are going to try line up the dish on 8 West first.

http://www.3pmfooty.com/nilesat.htm

Thanks dxhound2005 Is Top Movies receivable or any other movie stations in English with the Arabic subtitles? What channels and transponders can you receive from 7 West please?

Ronnie Raygun

FREETV wrote: »

... Where exactly should the inclinometer be placed at the back

Whatever flat surface you can find. If you place the meter on the central part, you'll have to take the offset into account. Any flat surface lower down might actually serve this purpose & give a true elevation reading.

Then you have to hope that the whole thing is even capable of focusing a signal. Might only be good for the skip.

dxhound2005

FREETV wrote: »

Thanks dxhound2005 Is Top Movies receivable or any other movie stations in English with the Arabic subtitles? What channels and transponders can you receive from 7 West please?

I gave you all the information about my reception of 7 West before, post #21 here.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81884247

There are hundreds of channels you can look them up on Lyngsat or similar. I am not getting anything at present and I doubt if you will even with a 2 metre dish.

FREETV

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I gave you all the information about my reception of 7 West before, post #21 here.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81884247

There are hundreds of channels you can look them up on Lyngsat or similar. I am not getting anything at present and I doubt if you will even with a 2 metre dish.

Thanks dxhound, I will try for Badr4 so very soon.

karl200607

I am in dublin with a td 1.1 and black ultra single lnb and I get a strong signal from badr 4 mbc and dubai one are usually at 78% breakup level is at 49% on the technomate 5402 I use at 7.3 west I get fox movies and fox at 55% top movies 52% panarama action 53% play movies 59% and mbc at 57% in the evening

FREETV

karl200607 wrote: »

I am in dublin with a td 1.1 and black ultra single lnb and I get a strong signal from badr 4 mbc and dubai one are usually at 78% breakup level is at 49% on the technomate 5402 I use at 7.3 west I get fox movies and fox at 55% top movies 52% panarama action 53% play movies 59% and mbc at 57% in the evening

So at 7.3 West it is only possible for you to get reception in the evenings?
Top Movies isn't receivable so? Are you using a motorised setup for both or a multi-LNB set up? I would love to see some photos of your dish if possible please? How far apart are both satellites from each LNB I wonder? Thanks Karl.

karl200607

Hi I have a motorised dish during the day I can get fox and fox movies 5555 tv movies and play movies with top movies jsc sports 1 and 2 and mbc coming in at around 6 I had nearly all day reception during the summer it is slighty weaker during the winter the dish has to be perfectly aligned and with a reciever with a very sensitive tuner id say a 1.2m quality made dish would give a solid signal

FREETV

karl200607 wrote: »

Hi I have a motorised dish during the day I can get fox and fox movies 5555 tv movies and play movies with top movies jsc sports 1 and 2 and mbc coming in at around 6 I had nearly all day reception during the summer it is slighty weaker during the winter the dish has to be perfectly aligned and with a reciever with a very sensitive tuner id say a 1.2m quality made dish would give a solid signal

Is it difficult to find 7 West without a professional meter or a usals motorised set up? How far left or right is the satellite from 26 E?

karl200607

Yea its difficult to lock onto without a pro meter the bigger the dish the harder it gets its about its about 33 degrees away from 26 east best to align to 8 west using one of the very strong tps then very slowly move the dish left standing behind it and use 11430 v 27500 this is one of the strongest on 7.3 west u will probly need to adjust the lnb arm up or down a bit to fine tune also u may improve the signal by moving the lnb closer to the dish is that a 1.5 gibertini u have u should be able to get 7.3 west as the gain is much better than a td 110

FREETV

karl200607 wrote: »

Yea its difficult to lock onto without a pro meter the bigger the dish the harder it gets its about its about 33 degrees away from 26 east best to align to 8 west using one of the very strong tps then very slowly move the dish left standing behind it and use 11430 v 27500 this is one of the strongest on 7.3 west u will probly need to adjust the lnb arm up or down a bit to fine tune also u may improve the signal by moving the lnb closer to the dish is that a 1.5 gibertini u have u should be able to get 7.3 west as the gain is much better than a td 110

To be honest I have no clue what make it is as I got it free off a nice Lithuanian man a few years younger than me from his ad on adverts.ie and he delivered it in his van and I paid him twenty euros for his time and petrol.
He wasn't sure of its make but it may even be a Chinese dish or maybe an old Gibertini. There is no name on the dish parts. I couldn't find any dish similar to it online, it must be at least six years or more old by now. I never owned a dish with an elevation bracket the same as the photos of the dish which I uploaded yesterday. The man said that the satellite they watched can no longer be received in Ireland for about the 18 months or more at this stage so it was no longer needed and it wasn't in use. Did they fit the arm of the dish the correct way up? I presume they did as he didn't install it when they used it. Probably Peter Rhea may recognise the make of dish. 8 and 7 W are to the right of 26 E I take it? I hope that it will work later today. It will test my patience.

karl200607

7 west is to the right of 26 east if u are standing behind the dish try and lock onto 12169 v 27500 which has a channel called mergab 2 or 11430 v 27500 and then try top movies on 10873 v 27500 fox is on 11296 h 27500 and mbc on 12322 v 27500

FREETV

Happy Christmas to everyone on Boards and Thanks Karl.

FREETV

I wonder was the dish arm put on incorrectly by the previous owner as I couldn't get any signal quality only 85% signal intensity.
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FREETV

Well I tried on Christmas Eve to get a signal but I had to go to a party so had to give up, no signal quality at all, I don't know whether my dish is still obstructed, damaged and won't focus, dish arm wasn't fitted correctly by the previous owners or was at the wrong elevation angles. Any ideas? Photos are further down the satellite forum of the dish. I can take more photos if needed. I will try to receive 28E later.

FREETV

Well, I am afraid that I won't be able to try my dish for a while as a huge gust just blew it still inside the oil barrel backwards off its base even though it was filled with concrete and loads of blocks and concreted to the base. A few dents but otherwise okay. I don't know how I will be able to lift the barrel now, think I will treat myself and just buy a new 1.25 Metre dish along with a new LNB with my Christmas money and try to receive those satellites using a two or two and a half inch mast to hold one in place. The destructive power of nature huh! What a wallop sound it made outside when I was in the kitchen. The gust was very loud a second before that.

byrnefm

My brother and I plan to try to get 7W some weekend when we have time as we've heard that for some reason, some people in the UK can receive it on 1m dishes, though they didn't mention which channels they got. We've a 1.2m.

Currently the dish is locked on to 26E and despite the strong winds of late and the trickiness of getting it tuned in in the first place, we haven't lost the channels. We don't get all the 26E channels (since some are tight over N. Africa) but do get MBCs at least, which are very stable.

FREETV

byrnefm wrote: »

My brother and I plan to try to get 7W some weekend when we have time as we've heard that for some reason, some people in the UK can receive it on 1m dishes, though they didn't mention which channels they got. We've a 1.2m.

Currently the dish is locked on to 26E and despite the strong winds of late and the trickiness of getting it tuned in in the first place, we haven't lost the channels. We don't get all the 26E channels (since some are tight over N. Africa) but do get MBCs at least, which are very stable.

I have another 1.25M dish, I will try probably tomorrow with a cheap LNB to see what I can receive. Older dish will have to be repaired and guyed in place, far too much wind load to stay up high. I reckon that the previous owner had the arm upside down.

Peter Rhea

This site might be worth a look. You could even provide some reception reports.

I think it's run by the guy that posts as 'pedro2000' or something, in DS & avforums.

FREETV

Peter Rhea wrote: »

This site might be worth a look. You could even provide some reception reports.

I think it's run by the guy that posts as 'pedro2000' or something, in DS & avforums.

Thanks,yes I saw that before when typing in various key words in to Google and I have the page bookmarked a couple of weeks or more, what do you think of the dish arm that was bolted on by the previous owner of the dish? I reckon that is upside down. My old dish looks like Raven or Gibertini, very strong, an 80 MPH gust I'd say knocked it over and it fell on top of a step ladder with the result of luckily just a few easily repairable dents on it.:)

Peter Rhea

I would say the dish was assembled correctly.

I'm not even sure how you would 'string' an offset dish (stretch strings across & see how they meet up). Yours might only be good for the scrap man.

Pat X

You seem to have a collection of hardware (dishes at least), & seem to ask a lot of questions here, but offer nothing in return?

What channels are you getting on your existing stock?

FREETV

Pat X wrote: »

You seem to have a collection of hardware (dishes at least), & seem to ask a lot of questions here, but offer nothing in return?

What channels are you getting on your existing stock?

I started the thread Pat X and anyway not trying to be smart but I couldn't get the old dish to work even using smart phone software. I had to ask questions as I couldn't understand why I didn't get any results. Peter and another poster said it may be unusable as the previous owner lost his signal and the dishes curve on the face maybe out of line/ whack. I only got a new smaller dish today. I have used dishes for 28E, Hotbird at 13.0 and Astra 19.2E with zero problems and I have helped others with installations for those satellites and for terrestrial reception also. If and when I receive 7.2 W and 26E then I will certainly help anyone out as much as I can in the future on boards. I am trying to learn as much as I can. I have given away smaller dishes to various members of my family and installed them also.