Man pushed under Dublin Bus and decapitated

smash

conorhal wrote: »

Hilarious, I'm not the one threatening to beat up the emergency services. If anybody needs to give it up.....

Either did I You did threaten to beat up anyone with a phone though.

Darksaga87

WindSock wrote: »

People taking pictures at the scene apparently. Ffs, what are they going to do...put them on Facebook and Twitter.

That is fúcked up.

Mod

Can everyone calm the fcuk down please.

Thank you.

conorhal

smash wrote: »

Either did I You did threaten to beat up anyone with a phone though.

No, I didn't.

I said I'd take it off a person filming an accident and grind it into the tarmac.

runawaybishop

conorhal wrote: »

I'm sure you'd definately bail into half a dozzen burly firemen while they were cutting a crash victim out of wreck...
..., no you wouldn't, you'd stand there spluttering your indignation like an eejit and then walk away, hopefully too embarrased to report what happened, because what kind of tool would make a complaint stating that they interfered with a rescue operation because the firemen at the scene wouldn't let you film a corpse like some kind of macarbre vulture?

Not being passive doesn't mean resorting to fisticuffs Morally objectionable or not its not illegal, unlike destroying someones property. I don't really believe that it happens often because i don't believe it wouldn't be reported and the offender punished. Its not against the law to be a gruesome prick.

seven_eleven

Im laughing at all the people saying they would start smashing everyones phones. Whisht up would ye, and no fireman or emergency service worker would grab someones phone and smash it either, you would only be told to stop fúcking taking pictures and clear off.

Anyway, Im out of this thread for now. Too heated in here.

Raytown Rocks

runawaybishop wrote: »

Not being passive doesn't mean resorting to fisticuffs Morally objectionable or not its not illegal, unlike destroying someones property. I don't really believe that it happens often because i don't believe it wouldn't be reported and the offender punished. Its not against the law to be a gruesome prick.

Well if the hat fits and all that.

Mental Mickey

seven_eleven wrote: »

Im laughing at all the people saying they would start smashing everyones phones. Whisht up would ye, and no fireman or emergency service worker would grab someones phone and smash it either, you would only be told to stop fúcking taking pictures and clear off.

Anyway, Im out of this thread for now. Too heated in here.

Everyone suddenly become an amateur detective at times like this!!

Some people need to grab hold of a paper bag, and breathe into it. Deeply.

mikom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ml4Wke0ZM

Mental Mickey

mikom wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gd78h0-QJ4

Can't see that???

mikom

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Can't see that???

Direct link..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ml4Wke0ZM

DominoDub

Bloody hell my iTunes is playing The Smiths "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out"

That Just gave me the chills

folamh

I don't mean to be inappropriate, but do we have a name yet? I've been wondering whether it could have been someone I know!

Mental Mickey

folamh wrote: »

I don't mean to be inappropriate, but do we have a name yet? I've been wondering whether it could have been someone I know!

FFS if it was someone you knew, you would've heard by now? Think before you post!

james142

mikom wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gd78h0-QJ4

""Look at this Instagram..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CH Media."

Madam_X

Taking pictures is ****ed up, simple as.

That said, I don't see anything that would particularly make me despair for humanity on this thread in terms if comments - more like people are pre-empting same because they enjoy getting outraged.

Did anyone say good riddance if he was a junkie/addict? I only read people speculating as to whether he was. It's not something I'd wonder about myself, but speculation isn't the same as saying good riddance if he was.

Re death occurring quickly and not too painlessly due to the impact - what's wrong with saying that when it's quite possible? It's like there's a *preference* for him to have had a slow, agonising death. Really really hope he didn't. And there's a good chance it was quick, which is a tiny comfort if it had to happen.

Mental Mickey

Mental Mickey wrote: »

FFS if it was someone you knew, you would've heard by now? Think before you post!

I don't see how that would be. A close friend of mine died this year, it made the news (obviously without her name, just 'a young woman' etc), and some of her family members and good friends didn't find out for nearly a week.

mikom

james142 wrote: »

""Look at this Instagram..." This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CH Media."

Updated my post......... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06ml4Wke0ZM

Lula.Pozza

A friend of mine was right next to the victim at the scene when it happened. She and another lady moved out of the way of the fight as to not get involved when the victim was punched and stumbled falling onto the road being run over by the back wheels of the bus.

The man was not decapitated as that ridiculously bad-written independent article said (a disgraceful article) but his head was crushed and essentially exploded on the ground. My friend (a lady in her 40s with whom I work) is traumatised and has not been able to eat or sleep since the incident yesterday.

She has been interviewed by the gardai today as a main witness and we could not praise them more, they stayed with her for almost 2 hours getting a statement and talking to her about it. She said that the bus driver was like a ghost crying and shaking; he believed he had run over a cyclist and was almost relieved to understand it was the result of a fight and not his fault at all.

Despite the fact that this man was described to be a druggy, his life has still ended tragically and there is a serious lack of respect from some posters here based on this fact - he is still a man whose death was horrific and unnecessary.

My friend has read through this thread and as one of the witnesses is very grateful to the condolences of strangers here wishing her and the other onlookers well, and wishes to thank everyone

smash

Lula.Pozza wrote: »

The man was not decapitated as that ridiculously bad-written independent article said (a disgraceful article) but his head was crushed and essentially exploded on the ground.

That is considered decapitation.

folamh

Mental Mickey wrote: »

FFS if it was someone you knew, you would've heard by now? Think before you post!

Not necessarily. I would be less likely to have heard about it if it were someone I only vaguely knew, but I'd still like to know. I did think before I posted - I searched the thread as well as google news. No need for that comment.

face1990

smash wrote: »

That is considered decapitation.

Jesus christ... The poster came here to thank people for their sympathy and you respond with a nit-picking, know-it-all, anally-retentive, 'well actually...' response. Not needed.

I heard somewhere, I think on RTE, that the guy who was arrested was currently residing in a hostel. That, combined with the lack of id on the deceased and difficulty in identifying him, would suggest to me that he was probably homeless. May take a while to identify him.
I hope he didn't have children.

tcjpmcd

Sad to see that happen to someone so young that may have made some change in the world at some point... And it must have been devastating to be at the incident and see it happen so my thoughts go out to the man, his family and friends and the people that seen it.

Iorana

This accident should actually drive city authorities into a different direction. I imagine that since Ireland had such a big immigration in the past 20 years the population of Dublin must have doubled. Walking a city centre in busy hours is like struggling for surviving. Should the city centre not be closed for the traffic to make a city a european style place with shops and cafes where people could safely walk? It would make Dublin much more enjoyable place to live? I come from a country where 100.00 inhabitant towns have city centre zones closed to traffic. And Dawson St seems like a perfect place to be reverted this way.
What do you think?

TeddyTedson

I've seen someone get knocked down and I was even weirded out by that, and they survived. I can't imagine, and don't even want to give any thought to what happened here, but the thought of the poster above describing his head as "exploding" just makes the mental image even more gruesome.
Condolences to the friends and family.
Hopefully everyone who witnessed it is able to cope with it too.
RIP to the victim, as someone else said, nobody deserves to die like that.

SmithsFan

As a F/F and Paramedic I have read this thread with interest. I wasn't at this scene last night but have been to similar one's in the past. One involving a train springs to mind.
Everyone deals with seeing such incidents in a different way. And in response to some other posts, there is no training for this type of thing. You can google all sorts of gory images if you like but until you are actually presented with such a scene, you really have no way of knowing how you might react. I recall the evening before my first day in work I was petrified. I had never, ever seen a dead body before in my life, even at a family funeral where everything is serene and staged. So the prospects of seeing all sorts of gory things really freaked me out.
I feel sorry for anyone that witnessed this scene yesterday and in particular the bus driver. At the train incident I was at I can still recall the driver of the train being practically catatonic after the incident.
The compliments to the emergency services in some other posts are appreciated. To use the words of an older friend that prepped me before I started in the job when I asked how one deals with such scenes he simply replied "that's what you're paid to do". And that's how I see it. I have seen things I will never forget and if I never see them again well and good, but I know I will see plenty more. There are images I will never forget and maybe underneath it all these incidents are gnawing away at me, but for now they don't keep me awake at night.
As for those that have posted insensitively it's just the usual trolling and I'm surprised in this day and age that people still react to it.

greenheart

tcjpmcd wrote: »

Sad to see that happen to someone so young that may have made some change in the world at some point... And it must have been devastating to be at the incident and see it happen so my thoughts go out to the man, his family and friends and the people that seen it.

So True. A lot of people are so quick to write these people off but an addict that has the strength to turn their life around could end up helping/supporting hundreds of others down the line and really make a difference.

Stheno

greenheart wrote: »

So True. A lot of people are so quick to write these people off but an addict that has the strength to turn their life around could end up helping/supporting hundreds of others down the line and really make a difference.

Nobody yet knows who or what the unfortunate victim was.

Speculating on it doesn't change the fact that a person lost their life in an horrific manner yesterday.

strandroad

Iorana wrote: »

This accident should actually drive city authorities into a different direction. I imagine that since Ireland had such a big immigration in the past 20 years the population of Dublin must have doubled. Walking a city centre in busy hours is like struggling for surviving. Should the city centre not be closed for the traffic to make a city a european style place with shops and cafes where people could safely walk? It would make Dublin much more enjoyable place to live? I come from a country where 100.00 inhabitant towns have city centre zones closed to traffic. And Dawson St seems like a perfect place to be reverted this way.
What do you think?

There are indeed plans to turn College Green into a plaza and to prioritise pedestrian/cycling traffic in this area and exactly for this reason; it becomes impossible to allow vehicles and pedestrians mingle like that. Numerous times I saw a crowd of pedestrians swelling around traffic lights so much that they can't all cross in allocated time; or if they cross there is no space on the footpath opposite. And I don't even work in the city centre so rush hours must be much worse.

Whether these plans will come to fruition is another thing.

greenheart

Stheno wrote: »

Nobody yet knows who or what the unfortunate victim was.

Speculating on it doesn't change the fact that a person lost their life in an horrific manner yesterday.

I'm not talking about the victim, I'm talking about in general.
But your right wrong place, wrong thread to be bringing this up.