Why do some gay men talk differently?

1ZRed

Monty Burnz wrote: »

*locks doors*

*cough* Smithers *cough*

Barna77

And I wonder, do American gay guys put on a fake Irish accent?

efb

So D4 heads, Gays, DJs,

What accent would boards like us to assume?

Me flah Offaly wan?

floggg

Seaneh wrote: »

They should use whatever is actually their accent, not change it to fit some stereo type from a scene they wish to feel they belong to.

People should have the self confidence and belief to be themselves.

I don't know of you appreciate the irony of your last line there.

Do you know just how much self confidence and belief the "overly camp annoying" gay people must have to be able to "wear" their sexuality so publicly?

No matter how tolerant we have become, life is no ****ing cake wake for gay people, and there's always something in the back of your mind about whether you will get an adverse reaction (or worse) from somebody who finds out your gay.

So even if you do "put it on", you need balls of steel to be comfortable being so open with your sexuality.

Gummy Panda

efb wrote: »

So D4 heads, Gays, DJs,

What accent would boards like us to assume?

Me flah Offaly wan?

We should all sound like Colin Farrell.

When you are about give oral sex you should say "Breakfast, lunch, and fúcking dinner right here!"

Afterwards you say "It was bleedin' delish"

Korvanica

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t20zA1zIsH8&t=1m8s

Dem fukin quaaaares.... :pac:

floggg

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Ive observed this a lot in the last few years and I'm talking about a percentage of the general population not just the gay folk. I hear a lot of this truely embarrassing slightly american phoney 'I want to be a west coast american' television inspired Irish accent with a little twang of california sh!t talk coming from people who have never left these shores for longer than 2 weeks on a package holiday maybe or probably never at all. Dude!, wow!....like really!, dude! sneakers?, vacation?, candy?,....:rolleyes:

Cop on and please stop trying to mimic whats on tv. Its sad.

My boyfriend is Mexican, but has lived in the US in the past.

We were out for a drink the other night and there was three southside girls talking really loudly. The SoCoDu private school types.


After a while he turns to me and says those American girls are so annoying.


He wouldn't believe me that that's just how the kids here talk nowadays.

awec

floggg wrote: »

My boyfriend is Mexican, but has lived in the US in the past.

We were out for a drink the other night and there was three southside girls talking really loudly. The SoCoDu private school types.


After a while he turns to me and says those American girls are so annoying.


He wouldn't believe me that that's just how the kids here talk nowadays.

The fake American accent is equally irritating.

On the other hand, that fake American accent is something these people have their entire life.

This gay man accent just seems to appear out of the blue for gay men as soon as they decide they're gay. Almost as if they think they aren't real gays unless they talk like this.

floggg

I love how many (presumably) straight/non-camp people here speak with such conviction and certainty as to why certain people speak the way they do.

I would have thought they could only speculate without really having any understanding of the reasons other people do anything, but evidently not.

Davyhal

Lyaiera wrote: »

That's called vocal mirroring and a lot of people do it without ever realising, and most people do it to some extent. It's an inbuilt trait humans have to put the person they're communicating with at ease. It's generally easiest to spot with families. Most families will have anything ranging from a subtle to a strong idiosyncratic style of communication. If you're friends with someone who moved to the city you're in a few years ago, and you happen to hear them talking with family you'll probably notice changes in their accent and use of words.

I personally believe that vocal mirroring is largely responsible for this "camp voice" that people are talking about. When a man comes out as being gay, he often makes a lot of gay friends and socialising in a different scene, and could very easily pick up a bit of an accent. This is true in any situation though. For example, when I was in University, I lived with a lad from Donegal and many of my friends were from Donegal, Monaghan and Tyrone. When I came back to Ennis, my Clare friends were questioning me on where I picked up the Northern accent. Also, my friends say that they have noticed that when I am talking to any of my family, be it in person or on the phone, I develop a really strong farmer accent that they have never heard out of me in other scenarios. Same has been said when I am hanging out with my gay friends. I am not a camp man, but my friends have said that when they have seen me talking with my gay friends or discussing gay topics that my voice becomes a very little bit camp, but that it has gotten camper and camper over the last 4 years since I came out. It's entirely subconscious.

awec

floggg wrote: »

I love how many (presumably) straight/non-camp people here speak with such conviction and certainty as to why certain people speak the way they do.

I would have thought they could only speculate without really having any understanding of the reasons other people do anything, but evidently not.

Why does the accent just suddenly appear? People's accents just don't change that drastically.

I'm a nordy living in Dublin. I still speak like a nordy, I haven't all of a sudden started to sound like a dub.

Gummy Panda

awec wrote: »

Why does the accent just suddenly appear? People's accents just don't change that drastically.

I'm a nordy living in Dublin. I still speak like a nordy, I haven't all of a sudden started to sound like a dub.

You say this now but one day you'll be up north eating a meal then you say "this meal is bleedin' delish"

efb

The real truth lads is cum softens the palette

ejmaztec

awec wrote: »

Why does the accent just suddenly appear? People's accents just don't change that drastically.

I'm a nordy living in Dublin. I still speak like a nordy, I haven't all of a sudden started to sound like a dub.

I think that people only change their accents if they want to fit in.:P

old hippy

Wow! Another thread about accents... but this time "gay" accents :rolleyes:

Feck the naysayers, be loud and proud, that's what I say.

Father Damo

Links234 wrote: »

it's the majority of heterosexual men are the ones trying to intentionally alter their mannerisms or way of talking in order to fit in

LOL :pac:

Am I to guess, judging by the forum you mod, we all secretly lust for the desire to wear womens clothes? With nonsense like this you do little to quell my opinion that transgenderism is a mental condition that needs psychological treatment rather than half hearted butcher surgical jobs by dodgy quacks after a quick few pound taking advantage of the mentally vulnerable. The South Park where these cowboys offer dolphin surgery to Kyles dad pretty much says it all for the morals of these chancers disguising themselves as doctors. As for anyone finding this intolerant or whatever, hardly. In fact I find it morally repugnant that doctors are allowed to accept money to turn a man (or woman) suffering from a state of mental distress into a ridiculous looking halfway all for the almighty dollar.

mod: banned.

Crooked Jack

floggg wrote: »

I don't know of you appreciate the irony of your last line there.

Do you know just how much self confidence and belief the "overly camp annoying" gay people must have to be able to "wear" their sexuality so publicly?

No matter how tolerant we have become, life is no ****ing cake wake for gay people, and there's always something in the back of your mind about whether you will get an adverse reaction (or worse) from somebody who finds out your gay.

So even if you do "put it on", you need balls of steel to be comfortable being so open with your sexuality.

Slightly different issue but why does anybody need to "wear their sexuality publicly"?

Intensive Care Bear

Is this what your all talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVK_OqyUzk&feature=share

dr.bollocko

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