building regs

andy199

hi was just wondering, im thinking of building a house, is there building regulations ive to follow and also if there is will ive to install a renewable energy such as a wind turbine or solar panels. thank you

daver123

andy199 wrote: »

hi was just wondering, im thinking of building a house, is there building regulations ive to follow and also if there is will ive to install a renewable energy such as a wind turbine or solar panels. thank you

there are building regs there i am not sure what year they are i think 2011, the main thing to do is to get planning permission

sydthebeat

andy199 wrote: »

hi was just wondering, im thinking of building a house,

1. is there building regulations ive to follow and also if there is

2. will ive to install a renewable energy such as a wind turbine or solar panels. thank you

1. yes

The building regulations are very numerous and onerous.

2. yes

Part L of the building regulations deals with energy conservation, and renewable energy provision is a requirement



you NEED a professional to walk you through these steps, so whomever is designing your house should be able to either do what you need or point you to good people who can.

andy199

thanks for your time, so these regulations were brought out in 2011 and all newly constructed houses have to comply with these, am i correct in saying so

daver123

andy199 wrote: »

thanks for your time, so these regulations were brought out in 2011 and all newly constructed houses have to comply with these, am i correct in saying so

once u comply with conditions of planning u can build whatever house u want

Poor Uncle Tom

andy199 wrote: »

thanks for your time, so these regulations were brought out in 2011 and all newly constructed houses have to comply with these, am i correct in saying so

The link above shows all the Technical Guidance Documents which show means of compliance with the Building Regulations. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74894890 that's also worth a read.

daver123 wrote: »

once u comply with conditions of planning u can build whatever house u want

That's just ridiculous nonsense, there is a legal onus on anyone building a house to build it in compliance with the Building Regulations.

daver123

i built a house so i am telling u now all as u need to comply with is planning conditions that is all the is enforced in this country

daver123

That's just ridiculous nonsense, there is a legal onus on anyone building a house to build it in compliance with the Building Regulations.

how come there are so many bad developments all over the country, is that because people were worried about building regs, cop on there are no proper inspections in this country compared to the uk

beyondpassive

daver123 wrote: »

once u comply with conditions of planning u can build whatever house u want

Not true. Planning control and building control are separate functions of local authorities. It would be unwise not to have a fully worked out renewables and energy efficiency strategy at design stage. The current minimum standard house can use no more than 40% the energy a house built in 2007 would have used, unless you weave low energy into the design from the start, your going to incur unnecessary expense. Try the old 'ah sure it'll be grand' approach and risk mortgage final drawdown not being approved or having the new building control regime take enforcement action.

Poor Uncle Tom

daver123 wrote: »

i built a house so i am telling u now all as u need to comply with is planning conditions that is all the is enforced in this country

I am not disputing that Building Control inspections are lax to a negligent degree in this country, but that doesn't excuse the duty of the house owner to ensure full compliance with the Regulations, under the Building Control Act 1990.

How can you get certification of compliance with Building Regulations if you don't build to them? Ask your solicitor about selling your house without compliance with Building Regulations.

daver123

very true buddy u are wrong i built a house i know what i am talking about

daver123

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

I am not disputing that Building Control inspections are lax to a negligent degree in this country, but that doesn't excuse the duty of the house owner to ensure full compliance with the Regulations, under the Building Control Act 1990.

How can you get certification of compliance with Building Regulations if you don't build to them? Ask your solicitor about selling your house without compliance with Building Regulations.

u get a cert of compliance from your architect based on the the house u built which is subject to planning permissions and conditions attached

Poor Uncle Tom

daver123 wrote: »

u get a cert of compliance from your architect based on the the house u built which is subject to planning permissions and conditions attached

Also subject to Building Regulations buddy.

daver123

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Also subject to Building Regulations buddy.

i have to disagree, how can u possibly defend building regs in ireland when there is absolutely no enforcement, i think u are living in cloud coockoo land

beyondpassive

daver123 wrote: »

u get a cert of compliance from your architect based on the the house u built which is subject to planning permissions and conditions attached

Thats for Planning control. You also need an opinion of compliance with building regulations from your architect for Local Authority Building control.

muffler

daver123 take a chill pill mate and read the forum charter.

Any more posts advising people to build in breach of statutory regulations will have a not so happy ending.

Poor Uncle Tom

daver123 wrote: »

...how can u possibly defend building regs in ireland when there is absolutely no enforcement....

Very nearsighted statement. Building Regulations are just good building practice and it's strange how they have to be forced down peoples throats when they are obviously in place for the benefit of the homeowners.

beyondpassive

daver123 wrote: »

i have to disagree, how can u possibly defend building regs in ireland when there is absolutely no enforcement, i think u are living in cloud coockoo land

Virtually no enforcement to date, but in the last few months some counties are sending officers out to one off's. The new Building Control Amendment Act will be in place by the time schemes currently on the drawing board reach site. Building regs are minimum standards, no why would you build lesser quality than minimum standards?

daver123

muffler wrote: »

daver123 take a chill pill mate and read the forum charter.

Any more posts advising people to build in breach of statutory regulations will have a not so happy ending.

no chill pill reqd i was just giving my experiences

zom

beyondpassive wrote: »

Virtually no enforcement to date, but in the last few months some counties are sending officers out to one off's. The new Building Control Amendment Act will be in place by the time schemes on the drawing board now reach site.

I wonder how much there will be for architecture/planing sake and how much for property record update for "better" taxation?

daver123

look at the residents of priory hall absolute joke how people can defend regs

sydthebeat

andy199 wrote: »

thanks for your time, so these regulations were brought out in 2011 and all newly constructed houses have to comply with these, am i correct in saying so

No.the regulations were first introduced in 1992 and have been updated frequently since then. There are twelve different 'technical guidance documents' which have to be complied with.

Again I would insist that you NEED professional guidance on this.

Poor Uncle Tom

Defending building regulations is not the same as condoning non-compliance with them.

daver123

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

Defending building regulations is not the same as condoning non-compliance with them.

compliance with building regs is not compulsary u need PLANNING PERMISSION to build

Poor Uncle Tom

daver123 wrote: »

compliance with building regs is not compulsary u need PLANNING PERMISSION to build

YES IT IS.

daver123

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

YES IT IS.

how is it compulsary

muffler

daver123 wrote: »

how is it compulsary

Man Utd win today so dont go trying to spoil my happiness now.

You are posting comments about something you know nothing about when you ask silly questions like that. The Building Control Act 1990 and subsequent amendments make it compulsory.

Poor Uncle Tom

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/en/act/pub/0003/sec0008.html#sec8

Have a read.

daver123

Building Regulations 2011
Technical Guidance Document L
Conservation of Fuel and Energy - Dwellings
3
Introduction
This document has been published by the
Minister for the Environment, Community and
Local Government under article 7 of the
Building Regulations 1997. It provides
guidance in relation to the application of Part
L of the Second Schedule to the Regulations
as inserted by the Building Regulations (Part
L Amendment) Regulations 2011 (S.I. No.
259 of 2011). The guidance in this document
applies to dwellings, both new and existing.
The guidance in relation to the application of
Part L contained in Technical Guidance
Document L - Conservation of Fuel and
Energy - Buildings other than Dwellings
applies to all other new and existing
buildings.
The document should be read in conjunction
with the Building Regulations 1997-2011 and
other documents published under these
Regulations.
In general, Building Regulations apply to the
construction of new buildings and to
extensions and material alterations to existing
buildings. In addition, certain Parts of the
Regulations, including Part L, apply to
existing buildings where a material change of
use takes place

I have highlighted the word GUIDANCE as a reason for my original post

daver123

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1990/en/act/pub/0003/sec0008.html#sec8

Have a read.

great if it is enforced i agree with it

Poor Uncle Tom

You are confusing Technical Guidance Documents and Building Regulations. TGD's are one possible means of compliance with the Building Regulations and as such are just guidance documents.