Movie stars with a perfect filmography?

gregers85

I think its impossible - every Actor at some point in there career has made a howler of a film

Mike Litoris

bullvine wrote: »

Cazale is the only one, him and Carrie Henn.

Oh good call on Carrie Henn.:D

kitakyushu

Mike Litoris wrote: »

Oh good call on Carrie Henn.:D

Her filmography is mostly good mostly.

Tipsy McSwagger

krudler wrote: »

Streep does have an impressive filmography alright, Death Becomes Her is fcuking hilarious.

how about Cate Blanchett? some average/not great but no really terrible movies.

I think you have forgotten about a certain Indiana Jones film.

Paddy2012

Brad Pitt's filmography is pretty decent

bullvine

Its impossible, Cool World for Brad Pitt..

PaulB1984

Deleted User wrote: »

You keep mentioning debate but I really don't think it means what you think it does. Any time anyone has disagreed with you, you have replied with well I think they are so you're wrong. It's like arguing with a child or an idiot, no matter what any of us says you'll just reply with some nonsense about how you're right and were all wrong. Your criteria is also odd, Cazale can't have a perfect CV because he only made 4 films. Cruise is a great actor because he's never had a flop. By that reasoning Spacey can't be considered a great as he's had a few flops.

The fact that you think Adam Sandlet is one of the greats says it all. Jesus, the man is cinematic bile. Sure he's been in some good films but they don't excuse crap like Jack and Jill.

I was actually defending Tom Cruise against anyone with anything nasty to say, by pointing out that every movie the man starred in was a hit, so people calling him a what was it someone said? A midget? And someone claiming because i like him, i jump on couches? The man is box office gold, which is why studios lavish him with huge paychecks and watch as his latest movie soars, while his haters actually make fun of his fans as sport and then complain when their called on it.

As for debate, let me explain. I say i like a movie, you say it's rubbish, i challenge you on that, to which you go into a little further detail rather than saying "Wrong, crap movie, i'm entitled to my opinion, you're horrible, leave me in peace etc". More like what you've just done by putting down Adam Sandler, he was someone else's choice and i agreed, so why must you chime in? Are we not entitled to our opinion without you questioning us? Let us try a debate now... I love Adam Sandler, i have done for years, i can explain why i love him and why i love his movies. Here's your side of the debate... You don't like him, explain why, pick a Sandler movie you don't like, explain why. Pretty much the way i defended Far And Away toward the top of this thread.

Tipsy McSwagger

Paddy2012 wrote: »

Brad Pitt's filmography is pretty decent

Oceans 12, The Devils Own, The Mexican, Mr. & Mrs. Smith

PaulB1984

Paddy2012 wrote: »

Brad Pitt's filmography is pretty decent

Here's a member who completely grasps the concept. Bravo Paddy2012 and great choice, Brad has a huge list of classic movies. Everyone else learn from Paddy!

Tipsy McSwagger

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I was actually defending Tom Cruise against anyone with anything nasty to say, by pointing out that every movie the man starred in was a hit, so people calling him a what was it someone said? A midget? And someone claiming because i like him, i jump on couches? The man is box office gold, which is why studios lavish him with huge paychecks and watch as his latest movie soars, while his haters actually make fun of his fans as sport and then complain when their called on it.

As for debate, let me explain. I say i like a movie, you say it's rubbish, i challenge you on that, to which you go into a little further detail rather than saying "Wrong, crap movie, i'm entitled to my opinion, you're horrible, leave me in peace etc". More like what you've just done by putting down Adam Sandler, he was someone else's choice and i agreed, so why must you chime in? Are we not entitled to our opinion without you questioning us? Let us try a debate now... I love Adam Sandler, i have done for years, i can explain why i love him and why i love his movies. Here's your side of the debate... You don't like him, explain why, pick a Sandler movie you don't like, explain why. Pretty much the way i defended Far And Away toward the top of this thread.

Grown Ups. It had no story and wasn't funny.

dark crystal

I don't think I've ever seen a Joaquin Phoenix film I haven't enjoyed. Yes, I even enjoyed The Village!

gregers85

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Grown Ups. It had no story and wasn't funny.

I taught grown ups was very funny, Now Jack and Jill and thats my boy - thumbs down

PaulB1984

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I was actually defending Tom Cruise against anyone with anything nasty to say, by pointing out that every movie the man starred in was a hit, so people calling him a what was it someone said? A midget? And someone claiming because i like him, i jump on couches? The man is box office gold, which is why studios lavish him with huge paychecks and watch as his latest movie soars, while his haters actually make fun of his fans as sport and then complain when their called on it.

Again, box office return does not mean that someone is a great actor. By your reckoning if Cruise's next film is a massive failure then he can no longer be in your eyes a great actor.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

As for debate, let me explain. I say i like a movie, you say it's rubbish, i challenge you on that, to which you go into a little further detail rather than saying "Wrong, crap movie, i'm entitled to my opinion, you're horrible, leave me in peace etc". More like what you've just done by putting down Adam Sandler, he was someone else's choice and i agreed, so why must you chime in? Are we not entitled to our opinion without you questioning us? Let us try a debate now... I love Adam Sandler, i have done for years, i can explain why i love him and why i love his movies. Here's your side of the debate... You don't like him, explain why, pick a Sandler movie you don't like, explain why. Pretty much the way i defended Far And Away toward the top of this thread.

People, myself included have attempted to discuss this with you but you refuse to. Everyone of your posts comes across as I'm right and you're wrong. Also you say that someone picks Sandler, you agree and then I chime in with my opinion as if that's a bad thing. . I think you may need to go and look up the definition of the word.

As I said Sandler has made a few decent films but most of them are beyond bad, Jack and Jill is one of the worst things ever made and only someone with an IQ in single figures could find it anything other than unwatchable. Seriously, it is beyond bad.

It's clear that you don't want debate, you just want other people to post how they agree with you and say things like "Oh Paul, what great taste you have". If you wanted debate you would respond to people with something more than well that's my opinion and I'm right while you are wrong.

gregers85

dark crystal wrote: »

I don't think I've ever seen a Joaquin Phoenix film I haven't enjoyed. Yes, I even enjoyed The Village!

Good Call on that one!!

PaulB1984

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Here's a member who completely grasps the concept. Bravo Paddy2012 and great choice, Brad has a huge list of classic movies. Everyone else learn from Paddy!

Pretty sure that everyone here has grasped the concept, you've just refused to acknowledge anyone who hasn't agreed with your choices.

bullvine

Jaoquin Phoenix is a good shout, but The Yards and We own the night weren't great, not terrible mind you.

Sleepy

Or what? You'll take your ball and go home?

You're posting bull**** and defending it as being your irrefutable opinion, well tough luck, opinions, just like any other statement, theories and /or beliefs can (and should) be questioned.

Only a handful of actors (two so far identified in this thread) have managed the "perfect filmography" of having never appeared in a bad movie and I'm sure Cazale, at least, would rather have starred in some god-awful ****e like Far & Away, The Devils Own or Jack & Jill than died from cancer though, in fairness, you'd never know, artists can be a funny lot sometimes.

PaulB1984

pixelburp wrote: »

Nobody's getting nasty, go to After Hours if want nasty, but the premise of your argument by your own admission is box-office sales, which from the outset is a flawed argument. It ignores talent, craft, ability, charisma etc. etc. If you want to talk box-office, we'll talk box-office but as I said, most people here aren't naming actors whose films are 'hits', they're naming people who are / were amazing acting talents in their own right, irrespective of the vehicle they were in. I'm well aware at how discussion fora work thanks, I don't need pointers on how to jam, but what's a discussion forum without conflict, it's the essence of good drama, and you are somehwat curtailing your own debate with rules

Frankly, if you want my actual opinion and you want consistently great actors, real honest-to-god craftsmen, you go beyond the vacuous non-entities like Cruise and you search for the Character Actors, the professionals who always bring their a-game, but aren't always are top of the bill. I look to people like Phillip Seymour Hoffman (now a leading man, but not always), Frank Langella, Bryan Cranston etc. etc.. Jesus Cranston's got more natural acting talent than that midget 1-trick pony Cruise. He doesn't put bums on seats, but it's a bit shallow to rate the mans ability on that factor.



Open. Mouthed. :eek:

I defended Tom Cruise's work by pointing out that people like you calling the guy a "midget 1-trick pony" for no reason (Say it to his face, why don't ya? Or go on to his Twitter and say it, i dare you!). One of my most favourite movies in the world EVER and the first movie i ever bought is Van Damme's Sudden Death, a movie that made 20 million dollars at the worldwide box office, and cost more than that to make. So who rates what like what now?

Bryan Cranston, Phillip Seymour Hoffman etc... So at last, you post a few names instead of insulting everyone. Great.

Can a mod please tell me how to block people here? I'm fairly new and still trying to grasp some things.

dark crystal

krudler wrote: »

Paint Your Wagon and Dick Tracy.

Pacino was nominated for an Oscar for his role as Big Boy Caprice in that movie, so I wouldn't say that was one of his worst roles - he was actually pretty good in it.

I'd be looking more towards Revolution, Simone, Gigli, 88 Minutes, Righteous kill and Jack and Jill.

Tipsy McSwagger

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I defended Tom Cruise's work by pointing out that people like you calling the guy a "midget 1-trick pony" for no reason (Say it to his face, why don't ya? Or go on to his Twitter and say it, i dare you!). One of my most favourite movies in the world EVER and the first movie i ever bought is Van Damme's Sudden Death, a movie that made 20 million dollars at the worldwide box office, and cost more than that to make. So who rates what like what now?

Bryan Cranston, Phillip Seymour Hoffman etc... So at last, you post a few names instead of insulting everyone. Great.

Can a mod please tell me how to block people here? I'm fairly new and still trying to grasp some things.

Your behaving like a complete asshole.

gregers85

Im throwing Gary Oldman into the mix..... Awesome actor! a few dodgey ones but over all pretty good!

krudler

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Oceans 12, The Devils Own, The Mexican, Mr. & Mrs. Smith

I liked Mr and Mrs Smith

Oceans 12 is gash though, I felt like I paid to watch a bunch of movie stars on holiday laughing at me.

bullvine

Never got the Ocean films?? Don't see the attraction at all with them.

Boom_Bap

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Can a mod please tell me how to block people here? I'm fairly new and still trying to grasp some things.

Not a Films Mod, but click on the users name and you will get an option to Ignore the user.

krudler

bullvine wrote: »

Never got the Ocean films?? Don't see the attraction at all with them.

first one is great, 2nd is horrible, 3rd is forgettable but meh.

PaulB1984

Sleepy wrote: »

Or what? You'll take your ball and go home?

You're posting bull**** and defending it as being your irrefutable opinion, well tough luck, opinions, just like any other statement, theories and /or beliefs can (and should) be questioned.

Only a handful of actors (two so far identified in this thread) have managed the "perfect filmography" of having never appeared in a bad movie and I'm sure Cazale, at least, would rather have starred in some god-awful ****e like Far & Away, The Devils Own or Jack & Jill than died from cancer though, in fairness, you'd never know, artists can be a funny lot sometimes.

Point of the thread is everyone's opinions, which is what i wanted, then we discuss and debate. Pick an actor, then let everyone else savage your opinion as you've done. As i clearly posted in my original comment, those 2 stars are my choices, i want others to pick their choices. Should someone come along and say "Tom Cruise is crap", of course i'm entitled to defend him as he's one of my choices. Until you pick someone you think has a perfect filmography, save this nasty stuff for some other thread. Or better yet, reasons why you called those movies "God-awful sh**e"? And not something childish like "Because they are!".

PaulB1984

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Not a Films Mod, but click on the users name and you will get an option to Ignore the user.

Thank you

PaulB1984

gregers85 wrote: »

Im throwing Gary Oldman into the mix..... Awesome actor! a few dodgey ones but over all pretty good!

Love the man, amazing actor, and the range he has is wonderful.

pixelburp

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I defended Tom Cruise's work by pointing out that people like you calling the guy a "midget 1-trick pony" for no reason (Say it to his face, why don't ya? Or go on to his Twitter and say it, i dare you!). One of my most favourite movies in the world EVER and the first movie i ever bought is Van Damme's Sudden Death, a movie that made 20 million dollars at the worldwide box office, and cost more than that to make. So who rates what like what now?

What, I'm lost, what has a VanDamme movie got to do with anything? I had thought you wanted a thread about who was the best actor with the perfect filmography. Where Sudden Death came from is anyone's guess; it has nothing to do with this conversation.

You haven't defended Tom Cruise btw, you just get excited about how I phrase my point, not what I actually said. Read again. I think Tom Cruise is a one-trick actor, with a very limited range. His most highly-regard performance is pretty much the best example of this - the egomaniacal douchebag. Why you feel aggrieved with my snarkiness about Tom Cruise the person is beyond me - are you his mother perhaps?

I would quietly suggest you don't understand the concept of debate as all you have done is trash those with a dissenting opinion to the nature and direction of this list-thread. All you've done is go "yes! I agree!" to everyone's posts, and that's not debate - that sycophancy.

Your logic of what constitutes a top actor is flawed, it's based on an arbitrary concept irrelevant to the craft actors practice. You seem to have no desire to debate this idea, getting excited and instead throwing out bizarrely emotive comments about VanDamme movies. I'm at a loss at what you expect tbh.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Bryan Cranston, Phillip Seymour Hoffman etc... So at last, you post a few names instead of insulting everyone. Great.

I've insulted nobody, you're being a tad over-sensitive, why I don't know - because I'm not playing the game you want to play?
Like you said, you're new here, maybe you should learn that the cut & thrust of debate is that the conversations evolve and change, not always in the fashion you wish. And just because somebody disagrees with you doesn't mean they're trying to insult or kick you.

But then as you've probably now ignored me in a huff, I'll say g'byeeee!

Sad Professor

Thread is a train wreck.

Locked.

johnny_ultimate

OK, I think this thread has run its natural course (Sad Professor got there before me!). Not exactly the healthy debate we like to encourage

PaulB1984, your enthusiasm for the forum is to be admired. But as you say yourself you're new and maybe you should maybe observe other threads a bit more over the next few days (not the Dark Knight one ). Engage with debates, most certainly, but be aware you're opinions are, well, a tad non-traditional and are likely to be met with quite vocal disagreements. I do feel you have skewed the rules of the discussion quite a bit here, however, and alas I don't think this particular thread has the potential to go anywhere fast.

Everyone else, as ever, if you have a problem with a specific post or poster report it. No need to resort to name-calling or insults on thread, only makes everything messy.