Movie stars with a perfect filmography?

PaulB1984

I can name 2... Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks. I've seen and own every Tom Cruise movie ever made (Aside from his early non-starring roles, but everything from Risky Business to Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol... Holding off on buying M:i:GP until the Blu-Ray box set) and there isn't a movie i'd rate lower than 3 stars (Risky Business gets 3, everything else gets 4 to 5). Tom Hanks, save for his 2 recent movies, i've seen 'em all and own most, and again would rate none any lower than 3 stars. Anyone got any other stars?

Roar

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I can name 2... Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks. I've seen and own every Tom Cruise movie ever made (Aside from his early non-starring roles, but everything from Risky Business to Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol... Holding off on buying M:i:GP until the Blu-Ray box set) and there isn't a movie i'd rate lower than 3 stars (Risky Business gets 3, everything else gets 4 to 5). Tom Hanks, save for his 2 recent movies, i've seen 'em all and own most, and again would rate none any lower than 3 stars. Anyone got any other stars?

Far and Away blows your theory out of the water I'm afraid.

Melion

I despise Tom Cruise, everything about him. I think i have managed to watch 3 of his movies from start to finish (Rock of Ages, Interview with a Vampire and Jerry Maguire)

Daniel Day Lewis and Leo DiCaprio would be mine, i dont recall either being in a poor movie(Even Titanic!!)

John Cazale is the closet you will come to an actor who has never made a bad film.

PerrinV2

Melion wrote: »

I despise Tom Cruise, everything about him. I think i have managed to watch 3 of his movies from start to finish (Rock of Ages, Interview with a Vampire and Jerry Maguire)

Daniel Day Lewis and Leo DiCaprio would be mine, i dont recall either being in a poor movie(Even Titanic!!)

Day Lewis was in that musical film nine wasn't he,was that any good?
I haven't seen it,I'd say him otherwise

PaulB1984

Roar wrote: »

Far and Away blows your theory out of the water I'm afraid.

I think Far And Away is a beautiful movie, really well made, lovely locations, brilliant story and it's dripping in Ron Howard magic. Yeah the accents of Tom and Nicole needed a little more work, but i've heard far worse. A sorely underrated movie.

PaulB1984

Melion wrote: »

I despise Tom Cruise, everything about him. I think i have managed to watch 3 of his movies from start to finish (Rock of Ages, Interview with a Vampire and Jerry Maguire)

Daniel Day Lewis and Leo DiCaprio would be mine, i dont recall either being in a poor movie(Even Titanic!!)

Tom's an absolute legend, but fair enough, some people don't like him, i personally love him and all of his work, he's yet to fail me, and with Jack Reacher and All You Need Is Kill getting closer, i don't think he's about to.

Daniel Day Lewis - There Will Be Blood. One of the worst movies i've ever watched, horribly overrated.

Leo DiCaprio - The Beach (Eugh), and although we're not counting non-starring roles... Critters 3.

PaulB1984

Deleted User wrote: »

John Cazale is the closet you will come to an actor who has never made a bad film.

Not strictly fair as he only lived to make around 4 movies.

Melion

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Tom's an absolute legend, but fair enough, some people don't like him, i personally love him and all of his work, he's yet to fail me, and with Jack Reacher and All You Need Is Kill getting closer, i don't think he's about to.

Daniel Day Lewis - There Will Be Blood. One of the worst movies i've ever watched, horribly overrated.

Leo DiCaprio - The Beach (Eugh), and although we're not counting non-starring roles... Critters 3.

The Beach was one of LDC' best movies

Mickeroo

Melion wrote: »

I despise Tom Cruise, everything about him. I think i have managed to watch 3 of his movies from start to finish (Rock of Ages, Interview with a Vampire and Jerry Maguire)

Daniel Day Lewis and Leo DiCaprio would be mine, i dont recall either being in a poor movie(Even Titanic!!)

Nine ain't supposed to be very good, but i've not seen it so can't say for sure, Day Lewis comes closer than most though in fairness. But DiCaprio was in Critters 3!

As for Hanks and Cruise, well recently Cruise was in Knight & Day (almost unwatchable film) & let's not forget the abomination that was M:I 2. Hanks you could probably make a better case for. I'm sure some of his earlier films aren't all that, but I was so young when I saw them I can't really give an opinion now, regardless Demons & Angels and The DaVinci Code were both pretty poor.
I think no matter how good an actor is they'll end up in a turkey or two, even if they themselves were still pretty good acting wise in said turkey.

PaulB1984

Melion wrote: »

The Beach was one of LDC' best movies

I've seen it one and a half times and just hated it completely. It ruined him entirely in my eyes, as did his ropey and awkward Jack performance in Titanic, Romeo + Juliet would be a truly stunning perfect movie had they skipped the horrific Shakespeare dialogue, they ruined what would have been a movie masterclass in my opinion, everything about that movie, including Leo's performance, is mindblowing. But the dialogue ruined every second of it. But Leo truly came into his own these days with stunners like Inception, Blood Diamond, The Departed, The Aviator etc... Wonderful actor.

PaulB1984

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Not strictly fair as he only lived to make around 4 movies.

You asked, "Movie stars with a perfect filmography" and far as I can see Cazale is the only actor with a perfect filmography. Every actor has at least one bad film, Day Lewis, Cruise, De Niro, Pacino, Duvall, Bogart, Fonda, etc, etc. There is not one actor you can name who has a filmography as perfect as Cazale's. Sure his output was small but christ he made up for it in quality.

Hidalgo

Youtoob Rich Hall's description of a Tom Cruise plot. Very funny.

Isn't he starring as Jack Reacher with the first installment hitting big screens soon.

Slightly unusual he was chosen for the role, thought they'd go for a younger actor as there's loads of books, so if the movies do well I can see a few films coming from it. Also, the character is 6' 4 in the books, Tom isn't quite that tall

PaulB1984

Mickeroo wrote: »

Nine ain't supposed to be very good, but i've not seen it so can't say for sure, Day Lewis comes closer than most though in fairness. But DiCaprio was in Critters 3!

As for Hanks and Cruise, well recently Cruise was in Knight & Day (almost unwatchable film) & let's not forget the abomination that was M:I 2. Hanks you could probably make a better case for. I'm sure some of his earlier films aren't all that, but I was so young when I saw them I can't really give an opinion now, regardless Demons & Angels and The DaVinci Code were both pretty poor.
I think no matter how good an actor is they'll end up in a turkey or two, even if they themselves were still pretty goo acting wise in said turkey.

I love Knight And Day, it's got a few problems like Cameron Diaz constantly being knocked out and us missing some brilliant action, but it's a blast for what it is, a big silly spy action movie with amazing stunts and special effects. And the humour is some of Tom's very best, the script he got is brilliant, there's so many greats in there i can't even type one out. LOVE M:I 2! Love love love it! That's the movie that made me a TC fan. Brilliant story, John Woo delivering his beautiful style to the directing and the action is incredible, the motorbike chase makes me drool everytime i watch it, and the injection scene is action filmmaking at it's best. And moving to Tom Hanks, funny you should mention Angels & Demons, which just happens to be my favourite movie of his (Excluding the Toy Story trilogy as he provides voice). Recently tweeted my all-time top 20 favourite movies and A&D comes in at 20. I could rant on it, but maybe nobody wants to see that... I do go on a bit...

PaulB1984

Deleted User wrote: »

You asked, "Movie stars with a perfect filmography" and far as I can see Cazale is the only actor with a perfect filmography. Every actor has at least one bad film, Day Lewis, Cruise, De Niro, Pacino, Duvall, Bogart, Fonda, etc, etc. There is not one actor you can name who has a filmography as perfect as Cazale's. Sure his output was small but christ he made up for it in quality.

Maybe i should edit that title to "Movie stars with over 5 movies", lol. It's fairly hard to screw up in 4 movies, considering his roles in at least 2 are not even starring roles so much as supporting roles. Day-Lewis (Yep), Cruise (Nope), De Niro (Oh my GOD yes!), Pacino (Yep), Duvall (Can't think of a bad movie i've seen him in), Bogart (Haven't seen anything of his), Fonda (Which one?)

Mickeroo

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Maybe i should edit that title to "Movie stars with over 5 movies", lol. It's fairly hard to screw up in 4 movies, considering his roles in at least 2 are not even starring roles so much as supporting roles. Day-Lewis (Yep), Cruise (Nope), De Niro (Oh my GOD yes!), Pacino (Yep), Duvall (Can't think of a bad movie i've seen him in), Bogart (Haven't seen anything of his), Fonda (Which one?)

Considering you used There Will Be Blood as part of your basis for Day Lewis not having a prefect filmography I think you should change the thread title to "Movie stars with what Paul1984 thinks are perfect filmographies" :pac:

The topic is kind of moot since we can only base how "perfect" a filmography is on our own subjective opinions anyway.

Marty McFly

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I've seen it one and a half times and just hated it completely. It ruined him entirely in my eyes, as did his ropey and awkward Jack performance in Titanic, Romeo + Juliet would be a truly stunning perfect movie had they skipped the horrific Shakespeare dialogue, they ruined what would have been a movie masterclass in my opinion, everything about that movie, including Leo's performance, is mindblowing. But the dialogue ruined every second of it. But Leo truly came into his own these days with stunners like Inception, Blood Diamond, The Departed, The Aviator etc... Wonderful actor.

Let not discount some his earleir work either, The Basketball Diaries and This Boys Life being two of my favorite Di Caprio films.

PaulB1984

Mickeroo wrote: »

Considering you used There Will Be Blood as part of your basis for Day Lewis not having a prefect filmography I think you should change the thread title to "Movie stars with what Paul1984 thinks are perfect filmographies" :pac:

The topic is kind of moot since we can only base how "perfect" a filmography is on our own subjective opinions anyway.

LOL! Well, in fairness, there's good acting, and then there's bad overacting. There Will Be Blood suffers from #2.

Hmmm, the point of the thread 'is' for people's personal opinions on who they think has a perfect filmography. If anyone disagrees, that's when we have ourselves a debate For example... George Clooney... Another actor i can think of who's never appeared in a bad movie, none that i can think of anyway. If i'm wrong, tell me

PaulB1984

Marty McFly wrote: »

Let not discount some his earleir work either, The Basketball Diaries and This Boys Life being two of my favorite Di Caprio films.

Two i hear massive things about are Marvin's Room and What's Eating Gilbert Grape. I've never seen either, but i hear nothing but great things.

PaulB1984

To back up my opinion on Tom Cruise... He's never had a flop movie. Ever. Any movie he's ever made recouped at least it's budget and more.

PaulB1984

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Hmmm, the point of the thread 'is' for people's personal opinions on who they think has a perfect filmography. If anyone disagrees, that's when we have ourselves a debate For example... George Clooney... Another actor i can think of who's never appeared in a bad movie, none that i can think of anyway. If i'm wrong, tell me

Clooney is once more an actor with some truly terrible films on his CV and the point of this thread seems to be PaulB thinks such and such and if you disagree you're wrong.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

To back up my opinion on Tom Cruise... He's never had a flop movie. Ever. Any movie he's ever made recouped at least it's budget and more.

Don't think that making profitable films is the mark of a great actor, if that were the case then people Kirsten Stewart and the main cast of Twilight are all good actors.

PaulB1984

Oh, one more actor... Michael Keaton. Can anyone name a bad Michael Keaton movie? (And if i debate it with you, don't get upset, lol).

PaulB1984

Deleted User wrote: »

Clooney is once more an actor with some truly terrible films on his CV and the point of this thread seems to be PaulB thinks such and such and if you disagree you're wrong.



Don't think that making profitable films is the mark of a great actor, if that were the case then people Kirsten Stewart and the main cast of Twilight are all good actors.

Who said anyone was wrong? Name these bad George Clooney movies, of course i'll tell you you're wrong as i've just stated he's never made a bad movie. It doesn't mean you are wrong, you're supposed to debate.

Twilight 1 and 3 are fantastic movies. Am i wrong? Tell me so. And tell me why. This is nothing to do with my opinions, it's all of our opinions to which we debate on everything. Or do we just agree on everything?

PaulB1984

Deleted User wrote: »

Clooney is once more an actor with some truly terrible films on his CV and the point of this thread seems to be PaulB thinks such and such and if you disagree you're wrong.



Don't think that making profitable films is the mark of a great actor, if that were the case then people Kirsten Stewart and the main cast of Twilight are all good actors.

PS - A movie star who has never starred in a flop movie has a perfect filmography, regardless of what anyone thinks of their work. Movies are made for money, if they make money, they're a success, so let's forget about TC.

Mickeroo

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Two i hear massive things about are Marvin's Room and What's Eating Gilbert Grape. I've never seen either, but i hear nothing but great things.

What's Eating Gilbert Grape is a great film and dicaprio is fantastic in it, not seen Marvin's room though.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

LOL! Well, in fairness, there's good acting, and then there's bad overacting. There Will Be Blood suffers from #2.

Hmmm, the point of the thread 'is' for people's personal opinions on who they think has a perfect filmography. If anyone disagrees, that's when we have ourselves a debate For example... George Clooney... Another actor i can think of who's never appeared in a bad movie, none that i can think of anyway. If i'm wrong, tell me

I think Clooney is a great actor & director but we know where this is going to go. I'll say Batman & Robin is an awful film ( even Clooney himself admits it sucked) and you'll say "No it's great, Clooney was a brilliant Batman and Arnie was a riot" and we won't get anywhere.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

To back up my opinion on Tom Cruise... He's never had a flop movie. Ever. Any movie he's ever made recouped at least it's budget and more.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

PS - A movie star who has never starred in a flop movie has a perfect filmography, regardless of what anyone thinks of their work. Movies are made for money, if they make money, they're a success, so let's forget about TC.

That really has nothing to do with anything, success does not equal quality in any artistic medium. Both Hanks and Clooney have been in films that bombed so by that logic their filmographies should not be perfect in your eyes.

Also, I after that last post of yours i quoted, how can you say you want to debate and post something like that? So Tom Cruise is off limits in the discussion now because his films made money and you said so. I'm done with this thread I'm afraid.

cadger1978

Hmmm, the point of the thread 'is' for people's personal opinions on who they think has a perfect filmography. If anyone disagrees, that's when we have ourselves a debate For example... George Clooney... Another actor i can think of who's never appeared in a bad movie, none that i can think of anyway. If i'm wrong, tell me [/QUOTE]

Batman and Robin springs to mind....drivel.But then again this is open to opinion. Clooney is fairly solid.

I offer Guy Pearce. Flawed only by The Time Machine really.

Marty McFly

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Twilight 1 and 3 are fantastic movies.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

PS - A movie star who has never starred in a flop movie has a perfect filmography, regardless of what anyone thinks of their work. Movies are made for money, if they make money, they're a success, so let's forget about TC.

Right im out of here :cool:.

krudler

No major star hasn't made at least one bad film, its all subjective anyway, Cruise probably has the most amount of hits to his name, he's one of the few actors whose name alone sells the movie not the film itself.

JohnMarston

Clint Eastwood

Al Pacino

The worst they have had is mediocre movies.

Evenstevens

Jeff Bridges. The guy is such a great actor.

Yellowblackbird

Tom Cruise.......even his brief appearance in 'American Psycho' novel - sharing a lift with bateman - was a winner.

krudler

JohnMarston wrote: »

Clint Eastwood

Al Pacino

The worst they have had is mediocre movies.

Paint Your Wagon and Dick Tracy.

Tipsy McSwagger

Isn't this just another 'name an actor who has never made a bad film thread' with added Tom Cruise homoerotic undertones?

JohnMarston

Yellowblackbird wrote: »

Tom Cruise.......even his brief appearance in 'American Psycho' novel - sharing a lift with bateman - was a winner.

That moment in Tropic Thunder when you realise the balding pudgy man with glasses is Tom Cruise

donalg1

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I can name 2... Tom Cruise and Tom Hanks. I've seen and own every Tom Cruise movie ever made (Aside from his early non-starring roles, but everything from Risky Business to Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol... Holding off on buying M:i:GP until the Blu-Ray box set) and there isn't a movie i'd rate lower than 3 stars (Risky Business gets 3, everything else gets 4 to 5). Tom Hanks, save for his 2 recent movies, i've seen 'em all and own most, and again would rate none any lower than 3 stars. Anyone got any other stars?

What was the one he was in with Cameron Diaz recently, think he was a hitman in it, I cant remember the name because thankfully my brain blocks out such sh1te. Just saw it was Knight and Day, yes that was a load of tripe.

Daniel Day Lewis as others have said seems to only make a film every few years and they are usually very good with great performances from him. There will be blood being one of the best performances ever.

JohnMarston

krudler wrote: »

Paint Your Wagon and Dick Tracy.

krudler wrote: »

Paint Your Wagon and Dick Tracy.

Creature

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I think Far And Away is a beautiful movie, really well made, lovely locations, brilliant story and it's dripping in Ron Howard magic.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Tom's an absolute legend

Daniel Day Lewis - There Will Be Blood. One of the worst movies i've ever watched, horribly overrated.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

I love Knight And Day,
And moving to Tom Hanks, funny you should mention Angels & Demons, which just happens to be my favourite movie of his

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Twilight 1 and 3 are fantastic movies. Am i wrong? Tell me so. And tell me why. This is nothing to do with my opinions, it's all of our opinions to which we debate on everything. Or do we just agree on everything?

With Tom cruise I'd say it's more a case of finding his good films rather than his bad ones from his filmography. Off the top of my head I'd say his good ones are Collateral, Interview With a Vampire, Born on the Fourth of July and Magnolia.
Tom Hanks is alright though, I'd say his 'bad' films are more just average than actually bad. Of course there is The DaVinci Code which is awful. Angels & Demons, though I haven't seen, got a good thrashing from anyone I know who saw it.

PaulB1984

PaulB1984 wrote: »

Who said anyone was wrong? Name these bad George Clooney movies, of course i'll tell you you're wrong as i've just stated he's never made a bad movie. It doesn't mean you are wrong, you're supposed to debate.

Twilight 1 and 3 are fantastic movies. Am i wrong? Tell me so. And tell me why. This is nothing to do with my opinions, it's all of our opinions to which we debate on everything. Or do we just agree on everything?

Take a look at any Clooney film made before ER and you'll find some terrible entries on his CV. Likewise Batman and Robin, so crap that if you tell Clooney you paid to see it he will give you the price of a cinema ticket.

The Twilight films are terrible and if you think they are fantastic films that says all we need to know about your film preferences.

Oh and Keaton has done very poor films, anything he made over the past decade has been pretty terrible.

PaulB1984 wrote: »

PS - A movie star who has never starred in a flop movie has a perfect filmography, regardless of what anyone thinks of their work. Movies are made for money, if they make money, they're a success, so let's forget about TC.

Yawn.... You really have no idea what cinema is about. Making money is a major part if it but great cinema sets out to move, to excite, to entertain, to tell a story, to tackle issues... If you judge a film based on its box office then you have no idea how to judge a films quality

livinsane

As previously stated, Cazale is pretty much the only film star that has a perfect filmography but there are plenty actors who choose their roles wisely. As well as Di Caprio, I would nominate Kate Winslet, Jennifer Connolly and Christian Bale as actors who consistently choose good roles.

Sleepy

What's wrong with the Twilight movies? My other half indulges in these as a guilty pleasure so I've had the misfortune of seeing most of them.

Twilight - An unsubtle propaganda piece for True Love Waits with a sparkly, vegetarian family of vampires that despite all looking old enough to pass as adults choose to endure High School on an endless loop.

Twilight - New Moon - a film about how sulking gets you what you want that portrays Native Americans in a bestial light.

Twilight - Eclipse - I think I fell asleep during this one as it's story was clearly so unmemorable, I can't remember much about it other than that the writers clearly had a field day inventing new ways to get Taylor Lautner's shirt off.

Twilight - Breaking Dawn Pt 1. - A return to form, if form is using movies aimed at teenage girls to bludgeon them over the head with a right-wing Christian message such as the anti-abortion line this movie attempts to force down their throats with a brick.

Kess73

Jimmy Stewart.


Over 50 years worth of a back catalogue, and you will have to work hard to find a total stinker from the ones that he had a major starring role in.


Very high number of good to very good films to his name, with maybe 11 or 12 of his film possibly falling into the bracket of being a great film.


Many of his peers would have had a healthy ration of good films versus bad films. Names like Fonda, Marvin, Hepburn, Gable, Mitchum, Grant, and Peck. But none of them would have had, imho, as few by way of stinkers as Stewart.

e_e

Reading this thread, has bad suddenly become good and vice versa all of a sudden? I think I missed a meeting.

Mike Litoris

Nicholas Cage. End Thread!

krudler

Mike Litoris wrote: »

Nicholas Cage. End Thread!

The BEEEES!

Boom_Bap

For those saying Tom Hanks has a perfect filmgraphy.

Exhibit A



Exhibit B



I do like a large chunk of his movies though especially the earlier ones like The Money Pit, Big and The 'Burbs.

quickbeam

cadger1978 wrote: »

I offer Guy Pearce. Flawed only by The Time Machine really.

And Bedtime Stories. And The Count of Monte Cristo (I think most people liked it but I thought it was average at best). Other than those few, he does have a great CV in fairness.

krudler wrote: »

Paint Your Wagon and Dick Tracy.

Paint Your Wagon was great!!!

Manchegan

Joseph Cotten deserves a nomination:

"Orson Welles lists Citizen Kane as his best film, Alfred Hitchcock opts for Shadow of a Doubt and Sir Carol Reed chose The Third Man — and I'm in all of them."

A-Trak

I think we all know PaulB is jumping up and down on a sofa smiling maniacally while typing his posts....

ViveLaVie

Marion Cotillard.

Possibly Ralph Fiennes? Haven't seen everything he's in though.

Leonardo di Caprio. I think The Beach is pretty good.

Every Twilight film is a disgrace.

pixelburp

PaulB1984 wrote: »

PS - A movie star who has never starred in a flop movie has a perfect filmography, regardless of what anyone thinks of their work. Movies are made for money, if they make money, they're a success, so let's forget about TC.

My game, my rules? Sorry but I call bullsh*t on this; you talk about how everyones' got an opinion and everyone has to debate & get along, but you then decide to jettison the factors most around here would consider important to a debate on actors' merits - the actual craft of acting - then get itchy because people call you out on it. That's not a debate, that's just creating shopping-lists & easily done if all we're doing is finding the most profitable actors, go to google!

Da Shins Kelly

This conversation seems to be pretty recurring and it always just comes back to John Cazale. He died before he could make a bad movie, so really he's the only person who has a so-called "perfect" filmography.