MNSCI Christmas Open Shoot. 8th & 9th December.

Cass

The Midlands National Shooting Centre of Ireland are holding a Christmas open shoot on December 8th, and 9th.


The exact details such as disciplines, course of fire, times, fees, etc will be announced as soon as the finer details have been finalised. For the moment i can say it will consist of:

• 50 mtr Benchrest.
• 50 mtr falling plates. (Timed)
• 200 & 300 yard Classic rifle.
• 200 & 300 yard Hunting rifle.
• Target rifle.
• F-Class (900 & 1,000 yards)
• Match Rifle.
• 1,200 yard "bullseye" shoot.
• Fullbore Benchrest @ 1,000 yards. (Smallest group).

The event will take place over two days with rimfire competitions being held over both days, and other events split between Saturday, and Sunday.

As soon as i have the days of each discipline, and times of each shoot i'll post them.


As an open competition everyone is welcome. All that is needed is a current/valid firearm license for the firearm being used, and insurance which must be presented at the clubhouse upon arrival.



More details as i get them.

LB6

Question...... what if you're still waiting on your licence approval/renewa but ya have the letter of receipt of application from the gardai? will that do?

Cass

It is the same as you going to your own range and shooting while in this position. I'm sure they allow you to continue shooting while the new licenses are being processed?

LB6

True..... tx

IRLConor

Ezridax wrote: »

• 50 mtr falling plates. (Timed)

What's the rough course of fire for this? I might see if I can do it with a single shot bolt action. :pac:

Cass

It's five plates and you have five rounds. You win based on time taken to knock all five plates. AFAK it's part of the rimfire event, and not a separate event on it's own. So if you do well with the plates you still have to do well with the paper targets.

It's aimed mostly towards bolt actions (afaik), but if there are enough entries for semi-autos then a second category can be run too. Not fair to put a semi auto up against a bolt action.

IRLConor

Ezridax wrote: »

It's five plates and you have five rounds. You win based on time taken to knock all five plates. AFAK it's part of the rimfire event, and not a separate event on it's own. So if you do well with the plates you still have to do well with the paper targets.

Ah right. I was thinking of using my regular sights for that event and borrowing a scope to do the other ones (since the aiming marks on paper will probably be unusable for my sights).

Cass

IRLConor wrote: »

....... (since the aiming marks on paper will probably be unusable for my sights).

With the targets ye normally shoot in mind, the sghts most likely will not suit the "standard" targets.

IRLConor

Ezridax wrote: »

With the targets ye normally shoot at they most likely will not suit the "standard" targets.

Are the targets you're talking about the ones with the thin black ring around the outside and a black dot in the middle? Roughly the same size as the 6 bull cards I use? They might be doable with my sights, I've shot at them before.

If I have to use a scope, I will. I just don't like using them.

dev110

I hope to have my .22 in time for this. Looks like it will be a busy weekend.

juice1304

I was just wondering the 50m falling plates. What is the format for this and what kind of target is it? That would be fantastic to shoot with open sights.:D:D
And the 200/300 What size target would that be? I have'nt really shot my lever action that far and i think it would be interesting to do with the red dot.:)
Thanks:)

Cass

juice1304 wrote: »

I was just wondering the 50m falling plates. What is the format for this and what kind of target is it? That would be fantastic to shoot with open sights.:D:D

Standard falling plates. Pretty sure they are simple square targets. Not the "chickens", etc from days past. The open sights would be great craic. Might even be simpler/easier.

And the 200/300 What size target would that be? I have'nt really shot my lever action that far and i think it would be interesting to do with the red dot.:)
Thanks:)

Don't want to give too much away.

We used to do the STAGS type shoots at 100 yards, however we have altered the format. I can say there will be unlimited blow off shots, and "snap" targets. Any rifle, any caliber with front bipod/bag ONLY. NO back bag. As close to field conditions as possible. 5 shots per distance to score (not counting blow off shots). 10 shots in total needed.

juice1304

Not trying to ruin it but do you think i could manage to get onto the target with a 2moa dot?:) PM me if you like

Cass

At 200 you should be fine, but at 300 it might push you.

Worth a bash though.

It wasn't me!

Should be up for the 200/300 hunting rifle, definitely.

Cass

Thinking of having a crack at the hunting myself. That and the 1,200 yard shoot. For kicks and giggles.

Haven't tried the Hybrids at 1,200 so will be interesting to see how they perform at the distance. All the ballistics say they should be maintaining supersonic speeds at 1,200.

It wasn't me!

With that new RPA of yours? Total cheatery! May have to drag the .25 down tomorrow now and confirm zero and drop at both distances.

dev110

I use my FTR rifle for hunting. Can I use that?

Cass

Errmmmmmm, how about no.:p

patsat

Ezridax wrote: »

Errmmmmmm, how about no.:p

What determines whether a rifle is a hunting or target rifle??

Cass

There is no real rule/guideline for what makes a rifle hunting or target. I was only taking the urine out of dev110.

I'm sure he can use his FTR rifle (it's not up to me), but it'll need a standard bipod, and no back bag like the rest if the rifles.

At these distances (200 & 300 yards) a lot of hunting rifles will keep up with target rifles due to the style of the comp/course of fire. Look at the STAGS shoots. Always won by a hunter with a hunting rifle. Suited exactly to the purpose, and style of comp.

Cass

So here is the itinerary for the two days.


Saturday December 8th.

Discipline | Distance | Description/Notes | Start Time | Duration | Entrance Fee | Re-entry |
.22lr Benchrest | 50 mtrs | Normal Benchrest rules apply | 10:30 am | 4.5 hrs | €5 | Yes |
.22lr F-Class | 100 mtrs | All shot in prone position, Unlimited sighters, best score over the 2 days wins | 10:30 am | 4.5 hrs | €5 | Yes |
.22lr Falling Plates | 50 mtrs | Bolt action rifles, 5 shots for 5 plates, Fastest time over the 2 days wins | 10:30 am | 4.5 hrs | €2 or 3 entries for €5 | Yes -Unlimited re-entries |
Centrefire Benchrest | 200 yards | Any Rifle, Unlimited Sighters, Smallest group over the 2 days wins | 10:30 am | 4.5 hrs | €5 | Yes |
Centrefire Hunting Rifle | 200 & 300 yards | Prone, Rested (on front only), 2 Sighters, and 5 scoring shots at 5 snap targets (last entries accepted at 11am | 11 am | 3 hrs| €20 |
Historical Rifle | 200 & 300 yards | Pre 1945 rifles only, Iron sights only, Prone, Rested (on front only), 2 Sighters, and 5 scoring shots at 5 snap targets (last entries accepted at 11am | 11 am | 3 hrs | €20 |
Target Rifle | 900 & 1,000 yards | Normal TR rules apply | 9 am | 1.5 hrs | €20 + Range fee | No |

Hunting and Historical rifles events will close for entries at 11am sharp. First detail will also start at 11 am sharp. No exceptions. So please arrive early/on time to avoid disappointment.


Presentations for Hunting rifle, Historical rifle, and Target rifles events will take place in the clubhouse at 2:30 pm.


Sunday December 9th.

Discipline | Distance | Description/Notes | Start Time | Duration | Entrance Fee | Re-entry |
.22lr Benchrest | 50 mtrs | Normal Benchrest rules apply | 10:30 am | 4.5 hrs | €5 | Yes |
.22lr F-Class | 100 mtrs | All shot in prone position, Unlimited sighters, best score over the 2 days wins | 10:30 am | 3.5 hrs | €5 | Yes |
.22lr Falling Plates | 50 mtrs | Bolt action rifles, 5 shots for 5 plates, Fastest time over the 2 days wins | 10:30 am | 3.5 hrs | €2 or 3 entries for €5 | Yes -Unlimited re-entries |
Centrefire Benchrest | 200 yards | Any Rifle, Unlimited Sighters, Smallest group over the 2 days wins | 10:30 am | 3.5 hrs | €5 | Yes |
Match Rifle | 1,200 yards | 2 & 15, Normal rules apply | 9:30 am | 30 minutes | €20 + range fee | No |
F-Class | 900 & 1,000 yards | 2 & 15, Normal F-Clas rules apply, String shooting | 10:30 am | 2.5 hrs | €20 + Range fee | No |
Benchrest | 1,000 yards | 2 x 5 shot groups, smallest 5 SHOT group to win | 1 pm | 1 hr | €10 | Yes |
1,200 yard Claybuster | 1,200 yards | 5 shots to hit a clay, Prize for each winner, F-class rules apply to rigs/ahooting | 1pm | 1 hr | €5 | Yes |



Presentations for all remaining competitions will be made in the clubhouse at 2:30 pm.There will be prizes for all competitions. This is an open competition ( to members, and non members alike) BUT you must bring firearms permits, insurance and ID.

Entries can be made on the day. Please be on time to avoid disappointment.


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Important Notice.

F-Class, Target Rifle, Match Rifle, CF Benchrest and 1,200 Clay Shoot must be pre booked before day of competition (very important as no entry will be accepted on the day without prior notice).


All enqueries to JP 086 8232641 OR email jpcraven@eircom.net

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This is a fun shoot, and should be a great day out with something to suit everyone's tastes. Hope to see you all there.

fish slapped

As the add says "BUGGER" I'll miss the Sunday....

Same as last year ... I'll be playing Santa for a youth group all day Sunday ... F*%K my rounded shape ...

Cass

fish slapped wrote: »

Same as last year ... I'll be playing Santa for a youth group all day Sunday ......

A good cause lad, and a perfectly valid reason not to make though. Kudos for doing it.

F*%K my rounded shape

I once was told i was too fat to play Santa. Beat that.:o:D

............. I'll miss the Sunday....

TBH, i'm half looking at Saturday more than Sunday. After shooting F-Class all year long it's nice to have a bit of fun. The 22 stuff, hunting rifle, and 200 BR looks like good craic.

After saying that i'm definitely going to give that claybuster thing a whack. Really want to see the FTR run at 1,200.

fish slapped

Cheers EZ,

Might try my AI in the bench rest and hopefully the 223 in the hunting rifle on the Saturday...

would of loved the clay buster ... but, thats the way...

It wasn't me!

Deadly! Should be down on the saturday. Was hoping the hunting rifle shoot wouldn't clash with my other plans. In a similar vein to fish slapped, I'm running a race in a Santa suit on the sunday.

LB6

ooh count myself and homerhop in for the BR 22 in HV and LV and the 200 CF - not sure which day yet tho

clivej

Question on this detail

Centrefire Benchrest 200 yards Any Rifle, Unlimited Sighters, Smallest group over the 2 days wins

What is the number of rounds in 1 group to count????

Cass

5 shots clivej.

To elaborate. you may fire sighters to get the zero, and read the conditions. Then you have 5 shots, consecutively, and the group is measured.

I'm assuming that as it's any caliber that they will measure the group, subtract the caliber, and then give each group an MOA rather than inch/mm measurement.

TaytoShadow

Fingers crossed I will have my .223 aquired and set up by the time this is on!

Just a question on the Hunting rifle comp? What are the snap targets?? I have never taken part in a shoot so I don't know!

Cass

Snap targets is when you are on the firing line, and given the command to make ready (to shoot, but there is no target infront of you. The target then "appears", and you have a limited amount of time to fire either one or all your allotted shots before the target "disappears".

It's great craic, and really tests your ability to fire quickly, and accurately. Vry much like when out hunting and you fire a shot at a deer, and quickly reload to make sure you are ready for a follow up shot if necessary.

Tackleberry.

fish slapped wrote: »

As the add says "BUGGER" I'll miss the Sunday....

Same as last year ... I'll be playing Santa for a youth group all day Sunday ... F*%K my rounded shape ...

Same as you Fish only going to get Saturday in as Santa has me booked for Sunday...
Looks to be a fun day but would of liked a shot at the 1200yd clays

fish slapped

Last year I'd over 180 kids came in ... so I can hardly let them down,

Is target rifle shot with a scope ???

Cass

fish slapped wrote: »

Last year I'd over 180 kids came in ... so I can hardly let them down,

That is a lot of kids on your knee.

Is target rifle shot with a scope ???

No.

Aperture sights.

fish slapped

Would rifles with aperture sights be made available for people who wanted to try??

declan1980

I'll probably have a go at the hunting rifle. Are mods allowed on the hunting rifles?

Cass

declan1980 wrote: »

Are mods allowed on the hunting rifles?

Anything.

As a hunting rifle shoot it's whatever you would normally use, plus it's not run on F-Class rules. So if ya want to use a mod go for it.

Leupold

Is the "falling plates" shot from the standing position?

Cass

Don't think so.

It's a timed event so most likely from a sitting position. Again i'm only interpreting.

declan1980

I don't mean to be awkward here, but why are the rimfire competitions limited to 22lr. I'm sure there are lots of lads with hmr's and wmr's that would like to have a go at the likes of the falling plate, myself included.

Cass

I can only assume it's because the falling plates are on the rimfire range which is limited to subsonic ammo only. Any supersonic/high velocity ammo is for the other (centrefire) range.

Cass

Ezridax wrote: »

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Important Notice.

F-Class, Target Rifle, Match Rifle, CF Benchrest and 1,200 Clay Shoot must be pre booked before day of competition (very important as no entry will be accepted on the day without prior notice).


All enqueries to JP 086 8232641 OR email jpcraven@eircom.net

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Just a reminder. There 6 days to the comp so make sure to book in if you intend to shoot in any of the highlighted events.

Everything else is turn up, and take part in.

Cass

This is the final reminder for all people that still have not entered their names into the above highlighted disciplines that they must do so before Friday evening.

So if you intend to shoot in the specified comps please book your spot.

As said before all other comps are enter as you wish.

Leupold

Any update on the day?

Grizzly 45

Well,I for one had a great craic at it.
Didnt win diddly at the CF sporting rifle...:p

It was great to finally actually meet and put faces and names to some Boardies here and catch up on all the ska and news.
Sure somone will be along with scores soon enough.

Thanks from me to the lads in the butts who put in a great days work in the most godawful cold and rainy weather that the Midlands can throw at you,and of course to the ladies who put on a great spread of sangers and cakes in the club house afterwards.;):D
Grizzly45

applelodge

Any Result's from to day Lads

declan1980

I just found out the results of the of the open shoot at the weekend and thought I'd up them up since no one else seemed to be going to

Hunting rifle
1st  Paul Dowling  174
2nd  David Dunne   170
3rd  Jonathan Murphy 168

Michael Kelliher  157
Martin Coen       122
Sean McGovern     94

Falling Plates
Enda Merrick   4.1 seconds
Paul Dowling   5.5 seconds
Stephen Shelly 6   seconds


200 yards benchrest
Joe Melia  0.928 inches
Jonathan Murphy 0.996
Sean McElmaine  1.333


.22 F Class
Sean McElwaine  88.3
Trevor Johnston 85.4
Enda Merrick    82.2


Historic Rifle
Michelle Gallagher  181
Alan Kelly          165
J P Craven          150
John Shelly         131


FTR
Pat hunt   146
Joe McLoughlin  145.9
Tommy Dunne     141.9

F Open
Stephen Hogan  148.7
Michelle Gallagher 146.13
Mark Bannon   145.5

Cass

declan1980 wrote: »

.......... thought I'd up them up since no one else seemed to be going to...........

I did not make it over.

Sister's house was broken into Friday night. So spent the weekend helping fill out Garda Reports, insurance claims, repairing the window the basterds came in through, tidying the house after they went through it, etc. So had other things on my mind.

Thought someone that was there might have lashed up a report of the weekend. No point me trying to report on something i did not attend.

sfakiaman

Sorry I missed the shoot, had to work, work is the curse of the shooting classes and all that. I'm sure all had a good time.

dicky82

AFAIK paulo6.5 won the hunting. fair play to him.

LB6

What happened on the 22 br side of things? Any results there? I couldn't make it up at the weekend.