Bill O Reilly's "white establishment" comments

Temaz

Bill shooting his mouth off as usual! How does this guy have so many viewers!

“The white establishment is now the minority,” said O’Reilly. “The voters, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them and they want stuff.”
He goes on to say that Hispanics and blacks will vote overwhelmingly for Obama, and that women are more likely to vote for the president, as well.
“People feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them those things?” he asks.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/11/07/bill-oreillys-lament-the-white-establishment-is-now-the-minority/

Mr. CooL ICE

Temaz wrote: »

Bill shooting his mouth off as usual! How does this guy have so many viewers!

By starting this thread, you've answered your own question

Wacker The Attacker

Does anyone really care?

MagicMarker

He's not particularly wrong.

Wacker The Attacker

LordChessington wrote: »

By starting this thread, you've answered your own question

Nice

mikom

Such a nice guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_HyZ5aW76c

Wacker The Attacker

MagicMarker wrote: »

He's not particularly wrong.

He's not

SuperInfinity

yeah I saw that.... Bill O' Reilly came in last night looking as if someone had shat on his dinner.

"People feel they are entitled to stuff, that's why the voted for Obama".

I couldn't tell you whether it's a type of dramaqueen stunt, just to get attention, or whether he just felt that way, but I don't think he came off looking very well. He came across as bitter and cold, not his usual self.

Besides, minorities etc. are just as bad off under Obama as anyone else, everything is the same. The president has no real power.

Bigus

I thought you were talking about the oki doke Bill

enfant terrible

He's right but probably shouldn't say it out loud.

Red Crow

I don't see the problem referring to white people. I presume your insinuating that he's being racist. I don't like Bill O Reilly but he's right in a lot of ways that a lot of ordinary American white people people do feel isolated.

Whether or not someone agrees with O'Reilly's politics I can't see how one can argue much with this particular statement.

My name is URL

lmao.. since when has the 'white establishment' been the majority? You'd swear that rich, middle-aged white men have made up the majority of the population until a few years ago by the way he goes on. Nothing at all to do with the 'white establishment' stepping on the rights of others for centuries like.

Mansized Wreath

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

He's not

True.

FloatingVoter

The guy is a museum piece - his generation has had their moment in the sun. And they screwed it up. Lets let gay black women on welfare run things - it cannot produce a worse result than his ilk did.

BTW with a name like O'Reilly I doubt he'd get into the inner circle in certain golf clubs in the Hamptons (sniff sniff)...

We won. Forward.

cosbloodymick

Imagine that. People voting for the politician that makes the most promises. Lucky that could never happen here

Son Of A Vidic

The balance of power has shifted in America and the Republican demographic base appears to be its same old antiquated self. The Democrats have successfully appealed to a wider and more diverse voter base. This result proves that the last election was no fluke.

The Republicans have a serious crisis ahead and if the Tea Party drags them increasingly to the right. Then I think it will deliver a serious blow to their future hopes and could lead to an internal civil war.

southsiderosie

“The white small establishment is now the political minority,” said O’Reilly. “The voters large corporations, many of them, feel that the economic system is stacked against them want to stack the economic system and they want stuff tax breaks.”

He goes on to say that Hispanics and blacks bankers and industrialists will vote overwhelmingly for Obama Romney, and that women the ultra wealthy are more likely to vote for the president Romney, as well.
“People Wealthy capitalists feel that they are entitled to things and which candidate, between the two, is going to give them those things?” he asks.

Fixed his post.

Lenin Skynard

Last night really cemented the fact that dinosaurs like O'Reilly are finally becoming extinct.

Pottler

He looks like a dream to work with from that video clip of Mikoms. Slightly dimmer than Homer and a bit grumpier than Neil Tobin.

southsiderosie

southsiderosie wrote: »

Fixed his post.

Yeah it's not like Obama or the Democrats believe in corporate welfare or anything.

Catari Jaguar

So rich white men will finally know what it feels like to be a hard done by Black, Hispanic or female in the USA? Tragic for them.

Snickers Man

Deleted User wrote: »

Whether or not someone agrees with O'Reilly's politics I can't see how one can argue much with this particular statement.

You can't? Watch me!

He clearly distinguishes between what he sees as the existing white American establishment who, he reckons, are only wealthy by virtue of their industry, enterprise and sacrifice and the "new" majority of under educated, pidgin-English speaking brown and black-skinned immigrants from Asian and Hispanic American countries who only flood into America to leech off the hard working "Establishment whites".

It's not America's opportunities but its generous welfare payments that are attracting all these wetbacks, he argues. They identify with Obama as the man who will give them their free meal tickets without demanding that they work for them in exchange.

This is utter bollox. Immigrants don't leave home in pursuit of welfare payments, they leave in pursuit of opportunity. They don't want the dole, they want jobs. For all those xenophobic loo laas in America who appropriate labels from American history to give their prejudices a gravitas they hardly deserve (Minute Men, Tea Party etc) there is a very simple tried and trusted guaranteed way to reduce illegal immigration:

Just trash your economy. That's it! Simples!

We had insignificant immigration here during the 80s when the country almost went bust. Nor are we overburdened with new immigrants at the moment. Not like the 90s when they came across in torrents. Reason: they wanted our jobs; not our rent supplements.

You think Haiti has a problem with illegal immigrants?

O'Reilly is so lacking in any knowledge of history or any intelligence that he can't see that the xenophobia he exhibits towards the indolent, feckless Latino immigrants of today is pretty similar to that which faced his forebears from Cavan who made it over to America in the 19th century.

The man's a disgrace to our gene pool

Snickers Man

Snickers Man wrote: »

You can't? Watch me!

He clearly distinguishes between what he sees as the existing white American establishment who, he reckons, are only wealthy by virtue of their industry, enterprise and sacrifice and the "new" majority of under educated, pidgin-English speaking brown and black-skinned immigrants from Asian and Hispanic American countries who only flood into America to leech off the hard working "Establishment whites".

It's not America's opportunities but its generous welfare payments that are attracting all these wetbacks, he argues. They identify with Obama as the man who will give them their free meal tickets without demanding that they work for them in exchange.

This is utter bollox. Immigrants don't leave home in pursuit of welfare payments, they leave in pursuit of opportunity. They don't want the dole, they want jobs. For all those xenophobic loo laas in America who appropriate labels from American history to give their prejudices a gravitas they hardly deserve (Minute Men, Tea Party etc) there is a very simple tried and trusted guaranteed way to reduce illegal immigration:

Just trash your economy. That's it! Simples!

We had insignificant immigration here during the 80s when the country almost went bust. Nor are we overburdened with new immigrants at the moment. Not like the 90s when they came across in torrents. Reason: they wanted our jobs; not our rent supplements.

You think Haiti has a problem with illegal immigrants?

O'Reilly is so lacking in any knowledge of history or any intelligence that he can't see that the xenophobia he exhibits towards the indolent, feckless Latino immigrants of today is pretty similar to that which faced his forebears from Cavan who made it over to America in the 19th century.

The man's a disgrace to our gene pool

So recent immigrants are a majority now?

Jesus talk about hysteria. "Entitlements" include "free" healthcare etc., and they're things that Obama supporters and Democrats are more in favour of than Republicans.

I also love the narrative that only rich people vote for Republicans, America ain't doing too bad if it has that many rich folk.

SuperInfinity

Snickers Man wrote: »

O'Reilly is so lacking in any knowledge of history or any intelligence that he can't see that the xenophobia he exhibits towards the indolent, feckless Latino immigrants of today is pretty similar to that which faced his forebears from Cavan who made it over to America in the 19th century.

Not true at all Snickers Man, O' Reilly has a huge knowledge of history and is very intelligent by any account. Try and stick with the truth, not deviate into a fantasy land you're just making up as you go along.

Some of the rest of what you say above could be argued in a rational and cogent manner, but you're just throwing them out like as if they were obvious even though they certainly are not.

1/10. Must try harder.

Spiritual

Watching Fox News is so entertaining, Bill is the King on Fox News. I watched a lot of it in the lead up to the Election and it was so entertaining watching these numpties try and dismantle Obama.

Each show was like watching Anchorman without the intentional laughs.

Bless the people that work for Fox they can stick to an agenda no matter how stupid it must sound in their own heads.

SuperInfinity

Spiritual wrote: »

Watching Fox News is so entertaining, Bill is the King on Fox News. I watched a lot of it in the lead up to the Election and it was so entertaining watching these numpties try and dismantle Obama.

Each show was like watching Anchorman without the intentional laughs.

Bless the people that work for Fox they can stick to an agenda no matter how stupid it must sound in their own heads.

Shut up. It's a good channel and they believe in what they're doing. You may not agree with it, that's no reason to call them stupid.

So many joke young liberals around nowadays, they don't know anything.

Spiritual

SuperInfinity wrote: »

Shut up. It's a good channel and they believe in what they're doing. You may not agree with it, that's no reason to call them stupid.

So many joke young liberals around nowadays, they don't know anything.

I won't shut up.:)

They are stupid if they believe in what they spew. Their willingness to report out of context, blatantly I add, is a clear indication that they are following an agenda set out by their employer.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Spiritual wrote: »

I won't shut up.:)

They are stupid if they believe in what they spew. Their willingness to report out of context, blatantly I add is a clear indication that they are following an agenda set out by their employer.

But they don't try and hide that though. It's a Republican news channel. Just because you don't agree with their politics doesn't mean they're stupid. The liberal media lie and report out of context also.

DEFTLEFTHAND

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

But they don't try and hide that though. It's a Republican news channel. Just because you don't agree with their politics doesn't mean they're stupid. The liberal media lie and report out of context also.

Yeah but there's far more of that so it doesn't seem as biased.

Spiritual

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

But they don't try and hide that though. It's a Republican news channel. Just because you don't agree with their politics doesn't mean they're stupid. The liberal media lie and report out of context also.

But, but, but they are not as entertaining as Fox News.


I actually love watching it, I just find it hilarious to view and listen to their views. The fact I don't agree with "most" of it just adds to my sense of well being and often disgust.

As an aside, my first post and I am told to "shut up". Brilliant, reading this forum for yonks and thought I'd contribute only to be told to "Shut up" on my first post. I feel a sense of hurt mixed with pride.

oppenheimer1

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Last night really cemented the fact that dinosaurs like O'Reilly are finally becoming extinct.

No it didn't. While Obama won the electoral college easily, the popular vote was almost 50:50.

Additionally, the Republicans also won the House of Representatives.

SuperInfinity

Spiritual, you're just rambling and I think your smileys are obnoxious. Sure you can say I must be wrong, and you can say Fox News is wrong and stupid, and how you secretly like the fact that I think your smileys are obnoxious and whatever more nonsense you dream up to make you feel like you have a 1-up on other people. But just have a look in the mirror before you accuse anyone else of being disingenuous and stupid again.

Lenin Skynard

SuperInfinity wrote: »

Spiritual, you're just rambling and I think your smileys are obnoxious. Sure you can say I must be wrong, and you can say Fox News is wrong and stupid, and how you secretly like the fact that I think your smileys are obnoxious and whatever more nonsense you dream up to make you feel like you have a 1-up on other people. But just have a look in the mirror before you accuse anyone else of being disingenuous and stupid again.

Smilies aren't obnoxious, telling someone to "shut up" and calling them "stupid" is most certainly obnoxious and probably against the forum charter.

It's not him that needs to look in the mirror.

Big Nasty

Bigus wrote: »

I thought you were talking about the oki doke Bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHGcSMtyQ-E

Stinicker

Obama is the ruination of the USA and soon enough down the line certain states will secede from the Union and there could very well be a 2nd Civil War along racial lines over there, White "middle" America is armed to teeth and all it would take is one Republican to stir the pot and he'd have enough followers to fight for them.

Obama is a Socialist and is a perfect antithesis of what the USA used to be about. GWB was a good old fashioned right winger and everyone loves to blame him and the Republicans for the financial mess the USA is in. America is suppose to be land of the free and dog eat dog, nowadays it is moving more and more left and this has been proved time and time again not to work.

When Lehman Bros. went bust what did GWB do? Nothing he did nothing and left them go burst in the biggest bankruptcy ever, this was pefect market sense. When Obama came in he gave bailouts to the biggest corporate crooks going and threw a few shekels down the food chain towards the Social Security System.

I think it is rather Ironic that 23 years after the collapse of the Iron Curtain, the United States is bankrupt and a practical socialist state, new Russia is booming and a good an example of Capitalism as you get. Handouts in Russia you gotta be kidding me, in Obama's America its a case of Welfare Nation, whilst the WASP "traditional" American is crippled by Obama's socialist vision.

If people think Obama is good for America then they are truly deluded.

Spiritual

SuperInfinity wrote: »

Spiritual, you're just rambling and I think your smileys are obnoxious. Sure you can say I must be wrong, and you can say Fox News is wrong and stupid, and how you secretly like the fact that I think your smileys are obnoxious and whatever more nonsense you dream up to make you feel like you have a 1-up on other people. But just have a look in the mirror before you accuse anyone else of being disingenuous and stupid again.

What is your issue? I laugh at Fox News I posted that, why are you getting so het up about that?

dr.bollocko

Bwahaha is the only response to that little lecture.

SuperInfinity

Lenin Skynard wrote: »

Smilies aren't obnoxious, telling someone to "shut up" and calling them "stupid" is most certainly obnoxious and probably against the forum charter.

It's not him that needs to look in the mirror.

Wachu talking about? I never called him stupid, but he called everyone on the channel Fox News stupid multiple times. Shut up may be impolite, but it's hardly a terrible insult against a person's integrity.

Inappropriate smileys are obnoxious yes. On the other hand I wouldn't call being insulted "obnoxious" as a rule at all.

Da Shins Kelly

Stinicker wrote: »

Obama is the ruination of the USA and soon enough down the line certain states will secede from the Union and there could very well be a 2nd Civil War along racial lines over there, White "middle" America is armed to teeth and all it would take is one Republican to stir the pot and he'd have enough followers to fight for them.

Obama is a Socialist and is a perfect antithesis of what the USA used to be about. GWB was a good old fashioned right winger and everyone loves to blame him and the Republicans for the financial mess the USA is in. America is suppose to be land of the free and dog eat dog, nowadays it is moving more and more left and this has been proved time and time again not to work.

When Lehman Bros. went bust what did GWB do? Nothing he did nothing and left them go burst in the biggest bankruptcy ever, this was pefect market sense. When Obama came in he gave bailouts to the biggest corporate crooks going and threw a few shekels down the food chain towards the Social Security System.

I think it is rather Ironic that 23 years after the collapse of the Iron Curtain, the United States is bankrupt and a practical socialist state, new Russia is booming and a good an example of Capitalism as you get. Handouts in Russia you gotta be kidding me, in Obama's America its a case of Welfare Nation, whilst the WASP "traditional" American is crippled by Obama's socialist vision.

If people think Obama is good for America then they are truly deluded.

You're trippin', yo.

dr.bollocko

Superinfinity banned.

Pherekydes

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Bwahaha is the only response to that little lecture.

Stinicker's?

It's democracy in action, Stinicker. Suck it up. :pac:

dr.bollocko

Pherekydes wrote: »

Stinicker's?

It's democracy in action, Stinicker. Suck it up. :pac:

The Republicans tried pandering, scare-mongering, buying the election, preventative measures to try and stop people voting in democrat voting areas, and lots and lots and lots of good old fashioned lying.

And they still lost.

So now it's back to the scare mongering.

Killer Wench

My name is URL wrote: »

lmao.. since when has the 'white establishment' been the majority? You'd swear that rich, middle-aged white men have made up the majority of the population until a few years ago by the way he goes on. Nothing at all to do with the 'white establishment' stepping on the rights of others for centuries like.

In the US, the number of women has been greater than the number of men. This is due to many reasons. However, there is a reason why women are considered a "minority" group and it has nothing to do with numbers.

Da Shins Kelly

SuperInfinity wrote: »

Shut up. It's a good channel and they believe in what they're doing. You may not agree with it, that's no reason to call them stupid.

So many joke young liberals around nowadays, they don't know anything.

People need to stop throwing around the word 'liberal' as if it's some kind of insult and instantly makes them better than the person they disagree with. That'd be some Fox News rhetoric right there.

With regards to O' Reilly, I don't think he' stupid. I think he's an intelligent guy who knows that saying outrageous things makes good television and will get ratings. He knows exactly what he's doing. Doesn't make him any less of an asshole though.

Cienciano

He's right, the man that most people want gets voted in. It's a disgrace :pac:

Stinicker

Pherekydes wrote: »

Stinicker's?

It's democracy in action, Stinicker. Suck it up. :pac:

I wouldn't really consider the US system to be a great example of Democracy and whilst Obama won the popular vote under 1 in 3 Americans actually voted and they have two parties Left and Right and the only good thing about the US system is Obama will be gone in 4 years. GWB should have lost in 2000 also and Gore been President.

Grayson

I just watched the clip and he's 100% right. He said that people felt the existing system was stacked against them and so they were going to for for "things". He said people like black, Hispanics and women especially were going to vote because they wanrted things.

That's where the clip ended. But he's right. All those people will vote because the system is stacked against them and they want to see equality and "stuff" like that.

I guess it all depends on what you view his word "things" as. But it pretty much describes most voters

Killer Wench

Deleted User wrote: »

So recent immigrants are a majority now?

Jesus talk about hysteria. "Entitlements" include "free" healthcare etc., and they're things that Obama supporters and Democrats are more in favour of than Republicans.

I also love the narrative that only rich people vote for Republicans, America ain't doing too bad if it has that many rich folk.

Under Obama, health care won't be free. And these entitlements include military dependents, elderly folks, and the extreme poor.

Killer Wench

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

No it didn't. While Obama won the electoral college easily, the popular vote was almost 50:50.

Additionally, the Republicans also won the House of Representatives.

Close, but still no cigar.

POPULAR VOTE
OBAMA 60,382,105 50.4%
ROMNEY 57,590,230 48.1%

And, the Republicans won the House back in 2010. They were lucky to keep it. They were expecting to win the Senate but several candidates shot themselves in the foot with their ignorant comments on abortion.

Pherekydes

Stinicker wrote: »

I wouldn't really consider the US system to be a great example of Democracy...

Is this because the "white establishment" is in the minority?

It all went downhill when women and slaves got the vote.