Star Wars: The Force Awakens [** SPOILERS FROM POST 4472 ONWARD **]

Gbear

Is there any particular reason why they elected to invent a completely new word for children?

GastroBoy

Gbear wrote: »

Is there any particular reason why they elected to invent a completely new word for children?

Who knows, crazy people!

Oafley Jones

Sad Professor wrote: »

Dialogue was the major problem with the scripts for the prequels. I think the story in the prequels is fine. Better than fine, in fact. Lucas just needed someone to do a really good dialogue re-write. The original Star Wars actually has some excellent dialogue, but Willard Huyck and Gloria Katz wrote it all.

Could you lay out the story of the prequels for me?

Roar

Gbear wrote: »

Is there any particular reason why they elected to invent a completely new word for children?

It's so they wouldn't have to say "kill the children", instead it's "kill the younglings", and frighten children.. After all, these are movies for younglings kids. As the dialogue I posted from the senate scene above perfectly illustrates.

Jelly 292

Looks like Han and Leia may make an appearance, the thick plottens:

http://entertainment.ie/cinema/news/Carrie-Fisher-to-reprise-her-role-as-Princess-Leia/148782.htm

I could be about to relive 1981 again, please god ,please....

OU812

I'm guessing VoiceOver or hologram, you couldn't put that in a gold bikini.

constitutionus

word knocking around the transformers sites is disney is gunning to buy hasbro now.

that pretty much means theyve tied up pretty much EVERY major boys franchise going if it goes ahead.

it'll be like a mouse monopoly

Kinski

That's a crap article. Carrie Fisher is of course best-known as Leia, but you're a journalist writing about film, and the "only thing other than Star Wars which springs to mind" is When Harry Met Sally? So you haven't seen Shampoo, Hannah and Her Sisters, or The Blues Brothers? And you don't know that she wrote (and later adapted for the screen) a bestselling novel, Postcards from the Edge? Do your research, Entertainment.ie person!

kitakyushu

Kinski wrote: »

That's a crap article. Carrie Fisher is of course best-known as Leia, but you're a journalist writing about film, and the "only thing other than Star Wars which springs to mind" is When Harry Met Sally? So you haven't seen Shampoo, Hannah and Her Sisters, or The Blues Brothers? And you don't know that she wrote (and later adapted for the screen) a bestselling novel, Postcards from the Edge? Do your research, Entertainment.ie person!

TBH I'd expect better from a journalist who uses phrases like "one of my fave movies ever"

Sleepy

you would?

Nervous Wreck

I don't think entertainment.ie is any good in general but that was an awful excuse for article.

pixelburp

Well, the director might still be a mystery, but the scriptwriter isnt. Michael Arndt (Little Miss Sunshine, Toy Story 3) will be writing the script, presumably ignoring Lucas' dialogue suggestions:

http://www.starwars.com/news/michael-arndt-to-write-screenplay-for-star-wars-episode-vii.html

FlashD

He's well able to strike the balance between mature enough for adults while childish enough for kids.

Good decision!

krudler

pixelburp wrote: »

Well, the director might still be a mystery, but the scriptwriter isnt. Michael Arndt (Little Miss Sunshine, Toy Story 3) will be writing the script, presumably ignoring Lucas' dialogue suggestions:

http://www.starwars.com/news/michael-arndt-to-write-screenplay-for-star-wars-episode-vii.html

This is looking promising, TS3 was brilliant.

Kinski

Well, Vaughn is usually writer-director (with his own preferred co-writers), so I wonder if this pours some cold water on rumours that he's directing. Tbh, I'm not that hot on the idea of someone who produced a bunch of Guy Richie films and made Kick-Ass (which had some decent scenes but overall really sucked, especially the handling of character) helming this.

Haven't seen Toy Story 3, but I thought Little Miss Sunshine was a bit crap.

kitakyushu

pixelburp wrote: »

Well, the director might still be a mystery, but the scriptwriter isnt. Michael Arndt (Little Miss Sunshine, Toy Story 3) will be writing the script, presumably ignoring Lucas' dialogue suggestions:

http://www.starwars.com/news/michael-arndt-to-write-screenplay-for-star-wars-episode-vii.html

Good choice. Little Miss Sunshine was a breath of fresh air. Also, have to admit when those Toys were falling down the chute into the furnace at the end of TS3, I actually cared! Get that kinda feeling back into Star Wars and the franchise might finally show people again what all the hype was about back in the day.

krudler

Kinski wrote: »

Well, Vaughn is usually writer-director (with his own preferred co-writers), so I wonder if this pours some cold water on rumours that he's directing. Tbh, I'm not that hot on the idea of someone who produced a bunch of Guy Richie films and made Kick-Ass (which had some decent scenes but overall really sucked, especially the handling of character) helming this.

Haven't seen Toy Story 3, but I thought Little Miss Sunshine was a bit crap.

Toy Story 3 is fantastic, genuinely can't recommend it enough.

Capt'n Midnight

While Little Miss Sunshine wasn't everyone's cup of tea, it was really well written, so this should be good.

Somebody posted this in You Laugh, You Lose -

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Zach Efron in it. In movies like Water for Elephants, Me & Orson Welles and even 17 Again, he has proven himself to be a competent actor with enough charm and charisma to pull off a role like that.

Sad Professor

Shia LaBeouf in talks to star as the son of Luke Skywalker.

http://collider.com/shia-labeouf-in-talks-for--episode-7/210108/





























j/k :pac:

boneyarsebogman

boneyarsebogman wrote: »

I actually wouldn't mind seeing Zach Efron in it. In movies like Water for Elephants, Me & Orson Welles and even 17 Again, he has proven himself to be a competent actor with enough charm and charisma to pull off a role like that.

Enron wasn't in Water for Elephants, that was Robert Pattenson.

I really like Efron as an actor, he's charming, charasmatic and is actually a damn fine actor whose not taking the easy part but going after interesting roles. Could easily see him as a young Han Solo.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Enron wasn't in Water for Elephants, that was Robert Pattenson.

I really like Efron as an actor, he's charming, charasmatic and is actually a damn fine actor whose not taking the easy part but going after interesting roles. Could easily see him as a young Han Solo.

Oh really?

You're right - got him mixed up, but regardless he was wonderful in Me & Orson Welles. He would make an excellent young Han Solo.

Handsome Bob

Sad Professor wrote: »

Shia LaBeouf in talks to star as the son of Luke Skywalker.

http://collider.com/shia-labeouf-in-talks-for--episode-7/210108/


j/k :pac:

****er.

Calibos

Please for the love of all that is holy, say it ain't so!!!

david75

My heart actually stopped there. LaBoeuf is an awful awful actor.

Hopefully they find unknowns or relatively unknown actors for this. If it's ex members of the Mickey mouse club or teen slebs it'll go badly for it.

pixelburp

Tbh, I can't see Disney spending a fortune on this, so I'd be surprised if any of the leading cast were big name/salary actors

krudler

pixelburp wrote: »

Tbh, I can't see Disney spending a fortune on this, so I'd be surprised if any of the leading cast were big name/salary actors

they'll probably have a cast of unknowns or low profile actors for main roles with some established names ala Guinness and Cushing like in ANH for audiences to recognise.

Dermighty

Pirates of the Caribbean in space is exactly what that steaming heap of f*cking ****e will be!

krudler

Dermighty wrote: »

Pirates of the Caribbean in space is exactly what that steaming heap of f*cking ****e will be!

the first Pirates is one of the best blockbusters of the last 10 years though.

I'm still failing to see what peoples problem is with this, its taken full control away from Lucas, who ballsed up the prequels to begin with because people were afraid to say no and call him on his awful script decisions.

Boo Radley

'Little Miss Sunshine' and 'Toy Story 3' writer Michael Arndt lands writing responsibilities for the next Star Wars installment:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-20288810

Thoughts?

EDIT: Just saw pixelburp mentioned this on the last page. I'm living in the past man.

Overheal

Dermighty wrote: »

Pirates of the Caribbean in space is exactly what that steaming heap of f*cking ****e will be!

I for one welcome our new Sith Overlord,

Johnny Depp!

Roar

Overheal wrote: »

I for one welcome our new Sith Overlord,

Johnny Depp!

Darth Sparrow!

snausages

I would be fine with a moderately enjoyable sci-fi-fantasy blockbuster. Something like that Star Trek movie that everyone appears to hate for some reason. Pirates in space would suit me fine, I never understand the sheer adulation that the Star Wars films receive. The original is a pretty seminal flick, the follow-up is pretty good as well. Everything else is ****e and always has been.

Sleepy

Seems like a great choice, Arndt walked the tightrope of writing something that's enjoyed by both toddlers and adults perfectly with Toy Story 3 so can't see why he shouldn't be able to do well with Star Wars.

No matter what happens, the 30-something uber nerds who've fetishised the universe the movies are set in out of all proportion to the quality of those movies won't be happy. TBH though, most of them wouldn't be happy with a sequal even if handed the keys to Lucasfilm and let write and direct themselves in the lead role because Megan Fox refused to do non-simulated sex scenes in a pivotal plot scene for their character's growth

Thrill

http://www.breakingnews.ie/entertainment/writing-begins-for-new-star-wars-573915.html

Writing begins for new 'Star Wars'

Michael Arndt has already started writing 'Star Wars: Episode VII'.

Kathleen Kennedy and George Lucas have begun story conferences with Arndt

While details of the plot are not yet known, it has been reported that Darth Vader - who was played by David Prowse - will be brought back from the dead

A source told the Daily Express newspaper: "He's an integral part of the franchise. Replacing him is virtually impossible.

"The plan is for him to return and play a significant role in the new films.

"This is science fiction remember. Darth Vader will rise from the ashes."

Meanwhile, 'Star Trek' director J.J. Abrams has ruled himself out of the running to take the helm of the movie, because he is such a big fan of the original film series.

Writing already, sounds like they're determined to get SW7 out ASAP.

snausages

How will they bring him back? Space voodoo? Kind of nullifies his whole redemption arc in the last film. Maybe this time around he'll be a kind, benevolent Sith Lord.

pauldla

Thrill wrote: »

http://www.breakingnews.ie/entertainment/writing-begins-for-new-star-wars-573915.html



Writing already, sounds like they're determined to get SW7 out ASAP.

Darth Vader back from the dead!?!? Oh FFS!!!! Tell me this is a wind-up...

Roar

Yeah I'm gonna call BS on this one.

Headshot

He'll be brought back by the Super Adventure Club

Sleepy

Has to be BS.

pauldla

At the moment the only two sources for this story seem to be the examiner.ie and breakingnews.ie.

snausages

Here as well: http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/357610

pauldla

snausages wrote: »

Here as well: http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/357610

:eek:

Say it ain't so....

kitakyushu

Well, they brought Darth Maul back to life on the tv show, so anything is possible.

But that said tho, Jar Jar was definitely killed on Alderaan and we shall have no more discussion about it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4D-gYagJPA

pixelburp

haha, as I always like to bring up when these kind of rumours appear: remember that Cher was originally 'reported' as being in line to play Catwoman in Dark Knight Rises. Or that David Hasslehoff was 'reported' to be in line to play The Doctor when the series relaunched in 2005.

For some reason, mainstream news outlets are total suckers for every bullsh*t rumour that sprouts from a popular franchise, particularly if they even have a vaguely tabloid outlook.

Until Disney say otherwise, I would laugh this rumour off as just that, a rumour.

Overheal

kitakyushu wrote: »

Well, they brought Darth Maul back to life on the tv show, so anything is possible.

Ok, how.

Mr Freeze

Overheal wrote: »

Ok, how.

Probably Clone, that's how Star Wars brings back everyone.

krudler

they'll get his DNA from some space mosquitos that bit him on Tatooine and clone him, then Watto will create a giant amusement park with big Darth Vaders roaming around. spared no expense.

CastorTroy

Overheal wrote: »

Ok, how.

Well Maul got robot legs and all.

As for Vader, I don't know how they could do it. Luke burned him at the end and we got force ghost Anakin.

krudler

I guess it'll be some guff about him being so strong with the force he can bring his spirit back to life or something, still wont explain why he'd still be Vader though, why would he need the suit if he can resurrect himself? and Vader without the suit and helmet ain't Vader. This also basically renders the entire redemption of Anakin Skywalker pointless. calling BS on it.

Sad Professor

No way Vader/Anakin is coming back. However I have no doubt we'll see someone else wearing that suit. It's too iconic not to.