Banners Broker

paulamorton

Hello all Banners Brokers members and future members.

I figured I would start up a thread for all the Banners Brokers folks on here.

I invite all Banners Broker members to post up, share knowledge, success stories, or just say hello. If you have not signed up for Banners Brokers or if you are a member with questions be sure to post. I am sure with the other users that are on this forum we will be able to help each other out.

If anyone would like help or more info on this feel free to leave a message or pm me.
thanks for reading,
paula

Moderators:
Hope i am posting this in the right thread, please feel free to move this thread to the right place.

A Primal Nut

I'm sure this thread will be deleted anyway but for anybody who is curious it's a scam

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056554740

paulamorton

how can you say this is a scam when you send me a link to someone complaing about not getting there money back but also states that there friends accounts are working, thats bug issues. i have invested into this, i'm currently earning money in it, just here to share how i'm working it and find out how others are doing it so we can gain from each other,

martyoo

It's a scam. I have heard about this before.

PaddyTheNth

It is depressing that people still fall for these scams

Some relevant reading, looks like the cracks are starting to become more obvious abroad: http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-broker-hyip-ponzi-scam-897-print/index52.html

A Primal Nut

Looking over that thread I'd like to hear from the likes of danmacca and the_juice now. They promised to post what happens when they actually withdraw their cash. the_juice promised to post again on 1st September with an update (his mandatory investment period ended then).

A Primal Nut

paulamorton wrote: »

how can you say this is a scam when you send me a link to someone complaing about not getting there money back but also states that there friends accounts are working, thats bug issues. i have invested into this, i'm currently earning money in it, just here to share how i'm working it and find out how others are doing it so we can gain from each other,

Read the two links posted in this thread and you will see it has all the hallmarks of a pyramid scheme. Relying on new members to make money, no evidence of their operations (nobody can find their ads) many members admit they trust Banners Broker to handle everything because it's too complicated, very little evidence of anyone withdrawing hard cash.

sb78

paulamorton wrote: »

how can you say this is a scam when you send me a link to someone complaing about not getting there money back but also states that there friends accounts are working, thats bug issues. i have invested into this, i'm currently earning money in it, just here to share how i'm working it and find out how others are doing it so we can gain from each other,

When you say you are earning money in it, have you actually managed to withdraw cash from it?

paulamorton

hi sorry about the late reply, i understand what people think of this and have read through so much stuff, i was affraid to put my money into it until someone i know who invested into it 7 months ago was able to actually withdraw his earnings, i have been on it a few months myself, i can actually withdraw profits that i have made but am leaving it in to reinvest... this thread was started for people who have accounts and want to help each other out and for new people to maybe learn a bit more about it before they do put there money in to it, they have partners with major companys, you will see it on there site... the partnered company would def not be part of a scam. check out there site and you will see what i am on about, or even make a free account and see for yourselves. so anyone who would like to help each other out on strategies etc then feel free to post, thanks for reading once again

paulamorton

no i have not withdrawn any money as of yet becuase it is still building up but i did not sign up until i knew someone who actually withdrew money from it, and it was more their initial investment, not much more but that was because they had most of it reinvested, they just wanted there money what they put in to it back out so it running on pure profits now. thats what i am looking to do as well

tricky D

New signup promoting multi-level marketing scheme AKA pyramid scheme dodginess = old news.

paulamorton

i am not looking to sign up anyone period, i dont need to, my account is running fine without anyone else, i am here to find out about others who already have accounts to share how they are working it as to how i am, maybe i might learn something different, maybe visa versa!!!! from when i say i want to sign someone up then feel free to start talking about scams. will send people more info on it if they ask but thats if they ask, i aint advertising for people to sign up

tricky D

Why else are you here but to promote it and push information out in the hope of hooking someone for the level below you in the pyramid?

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lala88

Does anyone have anything to back up saying its a scam? Or is it just the normal boards way of doing things and not needing to?

the_juice

A Primal Nut wrote: »

Looking over that thread I'd like to hear from the likes of danmacca and the_juice now. They promised to post what happens when they actually withdraw their cash. the_juice promised to post again on 1st September with an update (his mandatory investment period ended then).

sorry missed that deadline lol. Ya, all going very well indeed, well in profit, no problem getting cash, new bigger office in cork, took on more people that now work there, not getting into that crap that went on in the other thread but overall its amazing. Now, enjoy the usual trading of insults lol

PaddyTheNth

lala88 wrote: »

Does anyone have anything to back up saying its a scam? Or is it just the normal boards way of doing things and not needing to?

the_juice wrote: »

sorry missed that deadline lol. Ya, all going very well indeed, well in profit, no problem getting cash, new bigger office in cork, took on more people that now work there, not getting into that crap that went on in the other thread but overall its amazing. Now, enjoy the usual trading of insults lol

There is a lack of proof on both sides of the argument - however there are many things which should cause anyone to run a mile from this:

• The 'business' is widely promoted on forums by people who sign up just to promote
• The 'business' imposes ludicrous limitations on withdrawing money
• There are many reports of people being unable to withdraw money from their 'business' and getting zero response when raising their problems with customer service
• The 'business' touts its relationship with a major credit card provider as evidence of legitimacy when in fact I understand that they are actually purchasing pre-authorised/paid debit cards from a reseller.
• The 'business' is supposedly giving a ROI which is an order of magnitude larger than Google's, the market incumbent.
• No one has been able to identify any of the sites which supposedly comprise the Banners Broker real estate
• Australian Affiliate of the Year is Simon Stepsys - pretty poor for the reputation to be associating with such a large history of scamming! Read this and this
• The biggest question that people looking at this should be asking themselves - if the returns are as good as claimed, why the hell are these people touting for business to small time private individuals and not going directly to large investors?

The registered company name in Ireland is currently Naconne Online Marketing Limited. I wonder could I get odds on them never filing returns...

In my opinion this is a well constructed, elaborate, long-term Ponzi scheme. Anyone involved should start getting out asap because at some point in the not too distant future anyone left in the scheme is going to lose every cent they have given this crowd. Bernie Madoff generated great returns for people who got in early too!

If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is.

Niall_M

martyoo wrote: »

It's a scam. I have heard about this before.

Hi Martyoo

Why do you say it's a scam? Im in it on the advice of a trusted friend, who has taken money out. I invested about $570 in late sept 2012 and have earned nearly $3,000. I AM REINVESTING before i start to withdraw monies

Niall_M

Niall_M

that link has expired

Niall_M

Nice one the Juice! Im in and very happy. Most people that say its a scam say so because they obviously cant see past the end of their noses. Some me some evidence or stop whinging please..

martyoo

Why do you say it's a scam? Im in it on the advice of a trusted friend, who has taken money out. I invested about $570 in late sept 2012 and have earned nearly $3,000. I AM REINVESTING before i start to withdraw monies

It's a ponzi scheme. What websites are the ads running on? Can you show me some?

Niall_M

Hi there again!

look across this page to the right. see the ad? well that could be one of them. Banners Broker are like an ad agency buying up air time on behalf of their clients. Do YOU know every time you hear an ad on the radio or see a TV commercial, who was responsible for making the booking with RTE or TV£ for McDonalds or Ariel? I doubt that you do.

Banners Broker are a business that block books ad spaces on the internet on websites such as EBay, Facebook etc ec, they then sell them to the advertisers you see on those sites. As it happens, Banner Brokers funding/investors happen to me their members like me and others, and they give us a generous share of the profits. It's really that simple really!

martyoo

Hello to you too!

look across this page to the right. see the ad? well that could be one of them.

No it couldn't. That is a image ad running on the Google display network.

Same for Facebook. They have their own PPC platform. Are you telling me that they work with third parties such as BB?

You haven't answered my question. Show me some websites where the ads are running?

Niall_M

martyoo wrote: »

Hello to you too!



No it couldn't. That is a image ad running on the Google display network.

Same for Facebook. They have their own PPC platform. Are you telling me that they work with third parties such as BB?

You haven't answered my question. Show me some websites where the ads are running?

Fair comment. I choose a wrong example. I used it simply to explain the concept, as I am sceptical of people professing that something is a scam or a ponzi when they dont have particular experience

BB's have Publisher deals as well. Example: a business website owner/publisher will allocate banner space to BB's on PPC or page impression model and pay the websiteowner/publisher a few cent per visitor or click thru . They then share the profits from the sale of that space to third party advertisers, with their investors like me and others. Its a simple concept, and like others I have looked into, I work on the principle that if something is too good to be true, then it probably isn't. This one works!

I suggest if you want to have a look at it from the back end, PM me and ill send you a link to sign up ( no credit card details or commitment whatsoever needed) and properly inform yourself..?

martyoo

Niall, it is a very simple question. Show me the websites where the ads are running. Why are you unable to answer this simple question?

The reason you are unable to answer this question is because if you do it will be proven that Banner Brokers is nothing more than a pyramid scheme.

lala88

martyoo wrote: »

Niall, it is a very simple question. Show me the websites where the ads are running. Why are you unable to answer this simple question?

The reason you are unable to answer this question is because if you do it will be proven that Banner Brokers is nothing more than a pyramid scheme.

If your so sure it is a scam then show something to back it up?

martyoo

If your so sure it is a scam then show something to back it up?

Did you read through the last few posts?

These ads don't exist or either the websites which they are running on are of a very poor quality and therefore would not have the traffic to be able to justify the return these guys are claiming to make from these ads.

Otherwise why can't he answer the question?

lala88

martyoo wrote: »

Did you read through the last few posts?

These ads don't exist or either the websites which they are running on are of a very poor quality and therefore would not have the traffic to be able to justify the return these guys are claiming to make from these ads.

Otherwise why can't he answer the question?

Do you have any proof of that? Or as i said before is it just the normal boards way of doing things and not needing any?

I notice more often then not when someone comes on and says something is a scam they have very little to actually back it up

martyoo

Do you have any proof of that? Or as i said before is it just the normal boards way of doing things and not needing any?

I am asking Niall or anyone for that matter to show me where these ads are and no body can tell me. That is the proof.

This "business" is all about online advertising yet no one can show me the ads or the websites that they are running on. You don't find that strange?

tricky D

http://finchsells.com/2012/10/21/banners-broker-scam-dont-let-it-affect-you/
http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-broker-hyip-ponzi-scam-897/

...and any of so many results from searching 'banner brokers scam' https://www.google.ie/search?q=banner+brokers+scam with only a mere 796k results.

And of course there's Rajiv Dixit - a lovely person altogether.

Oh and still not one of you has given us any link to any advert on the network. Why? Because there are none, not one.

I wonder will withdrawing stop this christmas which is a typical MO.

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A New earth

I just came across this in the last hour and have been researching it on the net. I have very little doubt that this will blow up and it's just a matter of when. As some other contributor said earlier, if this was a legitimate business there are plenty of large investors available , venture capital funds etc without having to entice relatively small personal investors.
It has the usual characteristic of some people making good money (getting their investment back & working with the profit made etc) so that people will quote that as an example but they are the few & if a good number wanted their funds then it would collapse.

Now maybe some people here can afford to lose all their money if their timing is wrong and they might be one of the few lucky ones that get out but if they can't afford to lose all, they should try and get funds back immediately & thank their lucky stars if you succeed.

Niall_M

lala88 wrote: »

Do you have any proof of that? Or as i said before is it just the normal boards way of doing things and not needing any?

I notice more often then not when someone comes on and says something is a scam they have very little to actually back it up

Thank you!

A Primal Nut

Niall_M wrote: »

Thank you!

Have you managed to find any of their ads yet?

flash1080

Hi guys,

This is unrelated to Banner Brokers. One of my friends has this great business idea and he's looking for investors.

There are fantastic returns to be made, better than any stock or share, and he's generously allowing thousands of ordinary investors get involved rather than going to a bank or venture capitalist and maximising his own return.

I know there will be some sceptical people out there who will try to rip this apart, particularly because my friend has a history of starting ponzi schemes, but this is a legitimate business. If a business is registered then it MUST be wholly legitimate.

You DON'T need to sign up other investors to make money, your investment will rise anyway. I'm not here to recruit people, just to promote the business. Of course, the more people who invest the more money that can be made by the company and the investors.

I'm doing my best to promote the business and think online advertising is the way to go. I've approached Banner Brokers but they haven't handled my request. Maybe you can help me Niall?

nige

I was told about banners broker in Feb 2012 joined March 2012 and have got more than I put in back, this money was put onto my banners broker master card but I could also have got a bank transfer or used solid trust pay for this, my friend who told me about it has gotten a good few money withdrawls from them ,

That guy Rajiv Dixit(who is mentioned in above) is no longer involved in banners broker Chris smith will be in Ireland in City west at the start of December

Also Banners broker are looking after my account they charge a fee for this which is taken from the amount you cash out

I am managing 2 other accounts myself also there are no sign ups and the accounts are going good,

I have just requested putting ads on my website and they gave me html code to put on it for them to put ads up , you need 6000 hits a month before they will consider your website

If anyone wants to find out more or talk to me or even see my account I have no problem with this just contact me



Nige

martyoo

If anyone wants to find out more or talk to me or even see my account I have no problem with this just contact me

Hi nige,

Can you show me a website where a Banner Brokers ad is running please? Just one website.

liamjames1

flash1080 wrote: »

Hi guys,

This is unrelated to Banner Brokers. One of my friends has this great business idea and he's looking for investors.

There are fantastic returns to be made, better than any stock or share, and he's generously allowing thousands of ordinary investors get involved rather than going to a bank or venture capitalist and maximising his own return.

I know there will be some sceptical people out there who will try to rip this apart, particularly because my friend has a history of starting ponzi schemes, but this is a legitimate business. If a business is registered then it MUST be wholly legitimate.

You DON'T need to sign up other investors to make money, your investment will rise anyway. I'm not here to recruit people, just to promote the business. Of course, the more people who invest the more money that can be made by the company and the investors.

I'm doing my best to promote the business and think online advertising is the way to go. I've approached Banner Brokers but they haven't handled my request. Maybe you can help me Niall?

Can you give us any info about the investment?

martyoo

Can you give us any info about the investment?

Please tell me you are joking.

nige

my website will have once i get someone to put in the html code because I don't know how to do it

Nige

martyoo

my website will have once i get someone to put in the html code because I don't know how to do it

You are supposedly making money by placing banner ads onto websites. You said you have been with Banner Brokers for about ten months.

Can you please show me just one website with a Banner Brokers ad on it?

nige

the accounts i am managing are my sisters and my wifes i am only doing theirs about 2 months, you buy traffic from the money earned at applie them to your ad panels which qualify your ad space,

Basically your ad panel is a piece of space on a wedsite which banners broker sell to companies to advertise on,

Banners broker use everyones money to buy ad space and then sell it off for a profit - thats the way i was told it

If you want there is a guy who will be in Dublin/Wicklow on Wdnesday night who can answer your questions properly , let me know if you would like to meet him

Nige

martyoo

Banners broker use everyones money to buy ad space and then sell it off for a profit - thats the way i was told it

No, what Banners Broker does is uses new money to pay out old money and once that new money .ie new referrals stops coming in the system collapses and from what I have been reading that is going to happen sooner rather that later.

I would suggest that you have a read over the blog post tricky D linked to yesterday.

Link

A Primal Nut

nige wrote: »

my website will have once i get someone to put in the html code because I don't know how to do it

Nige

Can you post the code here?

It's bad enough that you will lose your own money, but that you are gonna lose all your sisters and wife's money too is much sadder.

A New earth

martyoo wrote: »

No, what Banners Broker does is uses new money to pay out old money and once that new money .ie new referrals stops coming in the system collapses and from what I have been reading that is going to happen sooner rather that later.

I would suggest that you have a read over the blog post tricky D linked to yesterday.

Link

Any investor who reads that post with an open mind has no option but to try and get some money back before it is too late and it is all lost.
Best of Luck, hope you are one of the lucky few.

Thargor

Another bad sign for anyone invested is that blog posts like that can persist without the company taking any legal action or even asking for right of reply, because a legitimate company definitely wouldn't.

By the way a better idea for the Google crawlers rather than repeating stuff like this:

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Is for everyone who mentions Banners Brokers to link to the article in their post:

http://finchsells.com/2012/10/21/banners-broker-scam-dont-let-it-affect-you/

Google values links from other sites like that way more than repeated text.

RATM

This has all the hallmarks of a ponzi scheme, the main one being is that you can't see the end product- you're always just forced to accept the companies word that 'it is there and working'.

But we seem to have no evidence of Banners Broker banners anywhere. If I was invested here I'd be scrambling, especially with Xmas coming up.

Niall_M

Hi

Hmm. I'm now nervous myself. Iv read some of the articles and links from this thread and have to admit, its all a bit compelling. Ill be taking my original investment out ( Im 5 weeks now). I invested in on the advice of a trusted friend. Iv also asked my referrer to show me some of the ads and i will gladly share the information with this thread

Niall_M

A New earth

Well done Niall M, hope you get your original investment back anyway

RATM

Niall_M wrote: »

Hi

Hmm. I'm now nervous myself. Iv read some of the articles and links from this thread and have to admit, its all a bit compelling. Ill be taking my original investment out ( Im 5 weeks now). I invested in on the advice of a trusted friend. Iv also asked my referrer to show me some of the ads and i will gladly share the information with this thread

Niall_M

Niall I don't mean to rain on your parade but that is another feature of ponzi schemes- if you ask all the investors how they got invested the answer will be 'family or friend' 99% of the time. Never a broker or a financial adviser putting them onto it but always family or friend. Ponzi schemes rely on this type of network marketing for one simple reason- humans put more faith in recommendations by family and friends than they do by any other form of advertising. But the thing is because they trust the person they also by extension *trust* that they have done the research into the company and that it all stacks up. Add into the mix the family or friend telling how they got a 100% return in 6 months and you have a pretty compelling argument to invest while not noticing you've been completely blindsided.

I'd advise people invested in Banners Broker to look at the recent ponzi scheme in Donegal where a con-man made off with €20m from the locals. He gained the confidence of a few church goers and suddenly it spread like wild fire through family and friends as the initial investors got decent returns. There are entire families in Donegal who have been wiped out by the property boom and now by this most recent ponzi scheme. I'd bet my last quid that most of the advice acted upon in both crashes was from family and friends.

Niall I'll say one final thing- through my work I encounter people in the online marketing and advertising industry a lot, I interview and recruit them and therefore have a pretty sound knowledge of their work and performances. In the time I've been doing this I have never heard of a sustainable business model that can produce returns of 100% in online advertising and feel that if there was once who could consistently deliver that kind of ROI then the likes of Google or Yahoo would have been in for a take over bid a long time ago.

That hasn't happened which makes me smell a rat. To Niall & the OP and others invested here my advice would be to get out and tell all the family and friends you know to get out asap. If you don't warn them you'll regret it later, if you do warn them then at least your conscience is clear whatever they themselves decide to do.

Niall_M

Good Adcice RATH. There is a world conference planned in Nov/Dec to which I will be going to. In the meantime Iv asked my referer to contact HQ and answer some of the questions that have been put to me on this Forum. Ill keep you posted..

http://thebbtour.com/

martyoo

Ill be taking my original investment out

Were you able to take it out?

http://thebbtour.com/

$45 to go out to Citiwest and listen to these crooks!

I just feel really sorry for all the people that are going to lose these money here. Its sad.

AltAccount

nige wrote: »

my website will have once i get someone to put in the html code because I don't know how to do it

Nige

What's your website address?