9 week old puppy crying

nathan89

Hi, i got a yorkie puppy saturday and have been playing and having great time with him but when its his bed time he hates being alone and starts crying. He has a bed with loads of socks toys and a hot water bottle and a ticking clock. Today(Monday) myself and my girlfriend are at work so we got up early to bring him for walk and that before leaving for work. we have an enclosed garden out the back but im afraid to leave him out there on his own as hes so young. He's in a room on his won with his bed and toys available for him and water. Again he was whining when we left. We will be back at lunch(1ish) to him and then home at 5ish. Is there anything we can do to help him get used to being alone. His whining is cute and hate leaving him alone like that??? Thanks

Papillon!

It's really hard but you've got to ignore the whining. He'll be the better for it in the long run and you wont have a puppy who grows up to be a brat :rolleyes:

You sound like you're giving him plenty of exercise and stimulation. Rotate the toys on different days and don't give in to whining. You'll get there

DeltaWhite

I definitely wouldnt leave him out the back, what you're doing is perfect but you will just have to ignore the crying he's just looking for attention, and at that age they are always very insecure after being seperated from his mammy but he will toughen up in a few weeks. I have one myself and she did the exact same - and still does it when we leave her at home on her own which is not often! So you're better off nipping it in the bud now or you'll be stuck like me with a 2 and a half year old yorkie that whines the house down!

nathan89

ok. thanks. were trying to ignore it. He's trying to be good going toilet too. He generally waits til we bring him outside on the grass but when we leave him alone and he whines, we cant differentiate between whining for attention and whining to go toilet so we just leave him and there is generally a little accident in the morning. Today is the first day weve had him while working so hopefully were home in time to bring him out to toilet. Any thoughts on leaving him outside for the day? Mornings are very cold. Thanks for the reply

He's only a baby, don't leave him outside!

nathan89

DeltaWhite wrote: »

I definitely wouldnt leave him out the back, what you're doing is perfect but you will just have to ignore the crying he's just looking for attention, and at that age they are always very insecure after being seperated from his mammy but he will toughen up in a few weeks. I have one myself and she did the exact same - and still does it when we leave her at home on her own which is not often! So you're better off nipping it in the bud now or you'll be stuck like me with a 2 and a half year old yorkie that whines the house down!

ok. thanks. he has some stamina tho. 3 walks a day and he never seems to get tired and i even tried jogging a small bit with him and not a bother on him. hopefully he'll learn soon. thanks for the reply

Papillon!

I'd leave him inside since you'll be away for a few hours. Its pretty cold and my old yorkie used to really feel the cold. They love going out for a run in the morning but yorkies love to snooze so he'll be fine when you're away as long as he has plenty of things to keep him occupied.:)

westies4ever

what you're doing is perfect - he settle in over the next week or so. dont worry about toilet accidents - thats normal - just think how tiny his little bladder and bowel is lol! any pics?

steveLFC24

Had the same problem myself when my German Shepard was a pup. Every time we went to bed he would just cry for hours on end. At first we used to go down to him and give him some attention but found that this just made the next night even worse. After a couple of weeks we just ignored him (as hard as it was). 2 weeks later there wasn't a sound out of him, and hasn't been since.

So its best to just ride it out. After a couple weeks he'll realise that crying isn't going to get him what he wants. I've seen the flip side with my aunts dog. He practically treated him like a baby and now its a total nightmare. Cries whenever he wants something and won't listen to her at all. Has even chewed up the sofa. You have just to make sure you throw in some discipline as well.

nathan89

Papillon! wrote: »

I'd leave him inside since you'll be away for a few hours. Its pretty cold and my old yorkie used to really feel the cold. They love going out for a run in the morning but yorkies love to snooze so he'll be fine when you're away as long as he has plenty of things to keep him occupied.:)

Thanks. He likes the hot water bottle cos its in a dog cover. there are balls and rope the chew on and he loves leaves for some reason. i dont kno if he plays with these cos he justs want to play with me when im there. any items that ye think he would love.

Zulu

Would you think of taking a week off? 8/9weeks is very young to be left alone for long periods of time!

When we got our dog, my wife was make redundant, so she was at home all day for the first few months. Clearly this isnt something you can do, but if you could take a week, then your girlfriend takes a week, it would help somewhat alleviate the puppys anxiety.

DeltaWhite

Well just because of my personal situation - I would think twice about leaving him out the back all day, I have neighbours that are not very dog friendly (I dont know about your situation) but when you are out all day you cannot see or control what behaviour the pup will get up to! Constant barking, whining will get you in the bad books with your neighbours! Maybe when he gets a bit older but I think he is way too young right now! My vet advised us against keeping the puppy outside all day, as cats and believe it or not magpies are a threat to pups. So if you can I would wait until maybe 3/4 months old when it's gotten bigger and is more familiar with the back garden!

nathan89

westies4ever wrote: »

what you're doing is perfect - he settle in over the next week or so. dont worry about toilet accidents - thats normal - just think how tiny his little bladder and bowel is lol! any pics?

Thanks. il put some up tonight if the little lad gives me a few minutes

westies4ever

nathan89 wrote: »

Thanks. He likes the hot water bottle cos its in a dog cover. there are balls and rope the chew on and he loves leaves for some reason. i dont kno if he plays with these cos he justs want to play with me when im there. any items that ye think he would love.

an old shoe or trainer that you dont wear anymore. man those little guys just love chewing on them!!

nathan89

Zulu wrote: »

Would you think of taking a week off? 8/9weeks is very young to be left alone for long periods of time!

When we got our dog, my wife was make redundant, so she was at home all day for the first few months. Clearly this isnt something you can do, but if you could take a week, then your girlfriend takes a week, it would help somewhat alleviate the puppys anxiety.

I honestly dont think i can take it off. I am going to take an early lunch so hes alone for 4 hours in morning. and 4 after lunch.

nathan89

westies4ever wrote: »

an old shoe or trainer that you dont wear anymore. man those little guys just love chewing on them!!

might buy a colourful pair in penneys for 2EURO. let him go wild with them. think he likes laces

nathan89

DeltaWhite wrote: »

Well just because of my personal situation - I would think twice about leaving him out the back all day, I have neighbours that are not very dog friendly (I dont know about your situation) but when you are out all day you cannot see or control what behaviour the pup will get up to! Constant barking, whining will get you in the bad books with your neighbours! Maybe when he gets a bit older but I think he is way too young right now! My vet advised us against keeping the puppy outside all day, as cats and believe it or not magpies are a threat to pups. So if you can I would wait until maybe 3/4 months old when it's gotten bigger and is more familiar with the back garden!

the neighbours have dogs but they are grown up dogs and dont whine or bark much. dont know if whining would annoy them but id feel safer having him inside anyways.

barbiegirl

Also try leaving a shirt that smells of you with him, so he can cuddle up to it. and invest some kong toys too.
Best of luck and pop up a picture so we can see the little teddy bear

nathan89

barbiegirl wrote: »

Also try leaving a shirt that smells of you with him, so he can cuddle up to it. and invest some kong toys too.
Best of luck and pop up a picture so we can see the little teddy bear

I forgot to mention i left a t-shirt with him. I will get a kong tonight. What should i fill it with, his dry food or little treats or peanut butter??? Should i treat a kong as a meal so it counts as one of his meals a day? Thanks

nathan89

Could anyone give me advice on the use of a kong? does it count as a meal. What's healthy to put in for a puppy and lasts long? thanks

barbiegirl

Everything your puppy eats, food wise, counts towards his daily allowance. So whatever you put in, you need to reduce his food in accordance. You can fill it with his food maybe for everyday and something really tasty for other times, such as when you have visitors.

On the shoes side of things, just be careful, those puppy teath go through everything and if he swallows a lace you could end up in trouble. On that note get your pet insurance sorted today.

Ms Tootsie

Depending on what you fill it with it and the size of the kong you use it doesnt count as an entire meal. Filling a large kong with peanut butter every day probably wouldnt be the best idea but remember what you are feeding him needs to be deducted from his daily allowence.

Get the small light blue kong to start off with as he is very young. I actually fill ours with the lidl chub pet food - I strongly advise against using lidl or super market foods as a dogs daily diet for a dog as they do not contain the right nutrients for them but as I feed our guy mainly raw / fresh a small kong filled with this every day i think is ok. The main reason I do this is he absolutely loves it and will spend half a day munching and licking at it - we freeze it each night so it takes a bit of work to get it all out.

stop animal cruelty

nathan89 wrote: »

Hi, i got a yorkie puppy saturday and have been playing and having great time with him but when its his bed time he hates being alone and starts crying. He has a bed with loads of socks toys and a hot water bottle and a ticking clock. Today(Monday) myself and my girlfriend are at work so we got up early to bring him for walk and that before leaving for work. we have an enclosed garden out the back but im afraid to leave him out there on his own as hes so young. He's in a room on his won with his bed and toys available for him and water. Again he was whining when we left. We will be back at lunch(1ish) to him and then home at 5ish. Is there anything we can do to help him get used to being alone. His whining is cute and hate leaving him alone like that??? Thanks

we use to have a yorkie and the person we bought her from told us that yorkies are the type of dogs that need company & hate being alone..so we got another dog for her! if you can, get him a doggy friend

nathan89

barbiegirl wrote: »

Everything your puppy eats, food wise, counts towards his daily allowance. So whatever you put in, you need to reduce his food in accordance. You can fill it with his food maybe for everyday and something really tasty for other times, such as when you have visitors.

On the shoes side of things, just be careful, those puppy teath go through everything and if he swallows a lace you could end up in trouble. On that note get your pet insurance sorted today.

Thanks for the info. i usually feed him in morning , at lunch and when i get home from work so might get the kong ready the night before and in the freezer. fill it with his dog food and bit of peanut butter to give him a taste and maybe fat free yogurt, and he can have that when we leave for work and that can be his breakie. Maybe feeding him at lunch is too soon after the kong though???

RubyGirl

Try leaving a radio on for him, even during the night it might help. I would'nt walk him 3 times a day either. Rule of thumb is 5mins for every month, so a little break out back should be enough for now.

Same as above never leave him alone out back.

nathan89

stop animal cruelty wrote: »

we use to have a yorkie and the person we bought her from told us that yorkies are the type of dogs that need company & hate being alone..so we got another dog for her! if you can, get him a doggy friend

i don't think thats possible at the moment im afraid. hopefully he'll get sued to being alone and he'll know that we always come back to play and feed him

nathan89

RubyGirl wrote: »

Try leaving a radio on for him, even during the night it might help. I would'nt walk him 3 times a day either. Rule of thumb is 5mins for every month, so a little break out back should be enough for now.

Same as above never leave him alone out back.

ya but he's really fit for a puppy. dont think he'd be tired without the walks. playing with him is hard cos he just wants me to put him on my lap and he'll be happy out. but hes not losing energy that way so i try to throw a ball but hes afraid of it. cant think of any other way to exercise him

andreac

At 9 weeks your pup shouldnt really be going for walks at all, hes still very young. Has he had all of his injections as they shouldnt be out in public until they are finished the course, as its very risky for them for catching diseases such as parvo etc.

Also at 9 weeks your pup isnt "fit", its a very young baby, so shouldnt be brought far at all. The rule for exercise is 5 mins per month of age, so that would only be 10mins actual exercise a day for your pup.

Even if you think your pup is able for walks, its not good for them. Their growing joints and bones cant take too much too quickly and you can do more harm than good and can do long lasting damage to joints, so please dont walk this pup much, even though you want to.

nemo32

Can I ask, is the point of the kong so that they lick the food out of it? Do they ever manage to empty it?
Our little fella doesn't seem to have much interest in it and I think it's because its too small and his big tongue can't get into it. He's a Bordeaux so he has a big tongue

nathan89

nemo32 wrote: »

Can I ask, is the point of the kong so that they lick the food out of it? Do they ever manage to empty it?
Our little fella doesn't seem to have much interest in it and I think it's because its too small and his big tongue can't get into it. He's a Bordeaux so he has a big tongue

i havent got the kong yet. it was suggested by someone on this thread earlier. i would have it to keep him interested in something for a few hours. hes so so attached to me, that i really feel bad when i leave him alone. had to do it there after work and he's whining the poor fella

nathan89

andreac wrote: »

At 9 weeks your pup shouldnt really be going for walks at all, hes still very young. Has he had all of his injections as they shouldnt be out in public until they are finished the course, as its very risky for them for catching diseases such as parvo etc.

Also at 9 weeks your pup isnt "fit", its a very young baby, so shouldnt be brought far at all. The rule for exercise is 5 mins per month of age, so that would only be 10mins actual exercise a day for your pup.

Even if you think your pup is able for walks, its not good for them. Their growing joints and bones cant take too much too quickly and you can do more harm than good and can do long lasting damage to joints, so please dont walk this pup much, even though you want to.

ok. thanks. thought id go with him til he started panting.

andreac

nathan89 wrote: »

ok. thanks. thought id go with him til he started panting.

Oh god, please dont. You wouldnt make a baby walk for ages, so a puppy is the same, they are only babies. They shouldnt be on actual forced walks yet at all. More just let them have a sniff around.

Has your pup had its vaccinations? Because at 9 weeks there is no way its fully over its course so shouldnt be outside yet.

nathan89

andreac wrote: »

Oh god, please dont. You wouldnt make a baby walk for ages, so a puppy is the same, they are only babies. They shouldnt be on actual forced walks yet at all. More just let them have a sniff around.

Has your pup had its vaccinations? Because at 9 weeks there is no way its fully over its course so shouldnt be outside yet.

due his last one next week. he isnt good at playing yet tho so dont know how else to tire him out

andreac

nathan89 wrote: »

due his last one next week. he isnt good at playing yet tho so dont know how else to tire him out

Then you shouldnt have him outside yet. In your own garden is fine. But until hes completed his vaccination course, then hes at serious risk of catching infections like Parvo which can be fatal for a young puppy.

No need to tire him out as such. Play with him at home and in the garden. Give him toys to play with. Thats all a puppy at that age should be doing really.

nathan89

andreac wrote: »

Then you shouldnt have him outside yet. In your own garden is fine. But until hes completed his vaccination course, then hes at serious risk of catching infections like Parvo which can be fatal for a young puppy.

No need to tire him out as such. Play with him at home and in the garden. Give him toys to play with. Thats all a puppy at that age should be doing really.

ok. thanks for the info

nathan89

Is it ok to leave him in the same room for night time and when we're gone to work? we put on the radio during the day and turn it off and put on a lamp at night.

kylith

nathan89 wrote: »

might buy a colourful pair in penneys for 2EURO. let him go wild with them. think he likes laces

I wouldn't recommend it, a dog can't tell the difference between a pair of €2 shoes from Penney's and a pair of €500 Gucci loafers, so teaching him that chewing on shoes is ok could be a recipe for disaster. Better to get a couple of Kongs or other toys, that way he'll always know what's ok to chew on.

nathan89

didn't get a chance to put up any pics. the minute im home, all he wants is to hop up on me and cuddle. hard to get anything done. ha

DeltaWhite

nathan89 wrote: »

didn't get a chance to put up any pics. the minute im home, all he wants is to hop up on me and cuddle. hard to get anything done. ha

I cant wait to see Yorkies are my fave dogs

LisaO

nemo32 wrote: »

Can I ask, is the point of the kong so that they lick the food out of it? Do they ever manage to empty it?
Our little fella doesn't seem to have much interest in it and I think it's because its too small and his big tongue can't get into it. He's a Bordeaux so he has a big tongue

Have several different size Kongs here & can all be completely cleaned out by both my 7 month Staffie & 8 year old Lab. Maybe try the largest size Extreme (black) Kong for your guy?

I stuff them with kibble, cottage cheese, grated cheese, peanut butter, coconut milk, small treats, etc. I usually "seal" the hole to make them last longer - a slice of black or white pudding is just the job, especially if it's frozen!

nathan89

LisaO wrote: »

Have several different size Kongs here & can all be completely cleaned out by both my 7 month Staffie & 8 year old Lab. Maybe try the largest size Extreme (black) Kong for your guy?

I stuff them with kibble, cottage cheese, grated cheese, peanut butter, coconut milk, small treats, etc. I usually "seal" the hole to make them last longer - a slice of black or white pudding is just the job, especially if it's frozen!

just got the small one. was afraid he woudnt know how to use it so gave him his ordinary breakie so he wudnt be hungry. ill give him the kong after lunch. i just have his dog food and some treats in it. and il put some peanut butter around the hole so he knows where to start. hopefully he'll be able to get the food out. ill have to give him treats in it and watch him some day so i know how long he takes to get through all the food. i dont think his small mouth would be able to chew large kong. maybe im wrong tho. tried to give him some small bit of apple and carrot. didnt eat either so i dont wanna put strange food inot kong just yet incase he doesnt like it

LisaO

nathan89 wrote: »

Thanks for the info. i usually feed him in morning , at lunch and when i get home from work so might get the kong ready the night before and in the freezer. fill it with his dog food and bit of peanut butter to give him a taste and maybe fat free yogurt, and he can have that when we leave for work and that can be his breakie. Maybe feeding him at lunch is too soon after the kong though???

Hi OP. Bearing in mind your pups age & size, he should be on at least 3 & preferably 4 meals a day, so would be fine to give him a Kong for breakfast & then maybe have another one prepared in the fridge or freezer to leave him with at lunchtime.

Peanut butter & kibble may not keep him busy for very long - you will need to experiment by giving him his food in a Kong when you are there to start with, so you can monitor how long it takes him to get through it. If he is finishing it very quickly, it may help to moisten the kibble & freeze it, so that it lasts longer. But don't make it too difficult for him to start with, otherwise he may become disheartened & lose interest in the whole idea.

It's different strokes for different dogs - they are all different & not all dogs are motivated enough by food to persevere with a Kong, whereas they might get hours of fun from a ball or old sock!

LisaO

nathan89 wrote: »

just got the small one. was afraid he woudnt know how to use it so gave him his ordinary breakie so he wudnt be hungry. ill give him the kong after lunch. i just have his dog food and some treats in it. and il put some peanut butter around the hole so he knows where to start. hopefully he'll be able to get the food out. ill have to give him treats in it and watch him some day so i know how long he takes to get through all the food. i dont think his small mouth would be able to chew large kong. maybe im wrong tho. tried to give him some small bit of apple and carrot. didnt eat either so i dont wanna put strange food inot kong just yet incase he doesnt like it

Hi OP. Yeah, my post re: size of Kong was in response to poster with a Bordeaux, who would be a whole lot bigger than your little guy! The small puppy Kongs would be fine for your fella I would imagine.

nathan89

LisaO wrote: »

Hi OP. Yeah, my post re: size of Kong was in response to poster with a Bordeaux, who would be a whole lot bigger than your little guy! The small puppy Kongs would be fine for your fella I would imagine.

sorry. misread it. ill give him his dog food in the kong when we leave after lunch and ill see how he has it emptied after work. Hope he likes the kong idea because i feel so bad walking out of the house and he's crying. and can i ask you if its ok to leavea him same room during the day as hes in at night or does it matter? thanks

LisaO

Personally I dont't think the place you leave them or the environment you create in your dog's area is as important as establishing a routine. Once your dog learns that he will be in a certain place at a certain time & it is a positive experience for him, he will be fine.

I have 3 dogs here. The 2 older ones have their beds in conservatory, where they sleep at night & where they stay when we are out of the house. They know the routine & I only have to ask if they want a biscuit and they scoot to their beds pretty sharpish.

Our Staffy is coming up to 7 months old & was already used to a crate before he came to us. He is my daughters dog - he has a crate in her room but sleeps on her bed mostly. He also has a crate in the conservatory, alongside the other dogs, which he uses as his bed when we are out of the house & he gets fed in there. During the day he will take himself off to either crate for a nap, or curl up in one of the other dog's beds (there are beds in the house as well as conservatory) - although he can often be found relaxing on the sofa! When he first came to us as a 10 week old puppy he was confined to one room downstairs as long as someone was with him & put in his crate anytime we left the room, he was fine with this & it made toilet training a breeze. As he got older & we knew he was less likely to have toileting accidents we relaxed to restrictions on him.
It is easier with older dogs for the pup to learn from, I think & our little guy has always been quite laid back & easygoing for a puppy. So just stick to your guns, establish the routines for leaving him, night time, etc & try to make the experiences as positive for him as you can. HTH

nathan89

LisaO wrote: »

Personally I dont't think the place you leave them or the environment you create in your dog's area is as important as establishing a routine. Once your dog learns that he will be in a certain place at a certain time & it is a positive experience for him, he will be fine.

I have 3 dogs here. The 2 older ones have their beds in conservatory, where they sleep at night & where they stay when we are out of the house. They know the routine & I only have to ask if they want a biscuit and they scoot to their beds pretty sharpish.

Our Staffy is coming up to 7 months old & was already used to a crate before he came to us. He is my daughters dog - he has a crate in her room but sleeps on her bed mostly. He also has a crate in the conservatory, alongside the other dogs, which he uses as his bed when we are out of the house & he gets fed in there. During the day he will take himself off to either crate for a nap, or curl up in one of the other dog's beds (there are beds in the house as well as conservatory) - although he can often be found relaxing on the sofa! When he first came to us as a 10 week old puppy he was confined to one room downstairs as long as someone was with him & put in his crate anytime we left the room, he was fine with this & it made toilet training a breeze. As he got older & we knew he was less likely to have toileting accidents we relaxed to restrictions on him.
It is easier with older dogs for the pup to learn from, I think & our little guy has always been quite laid back & easygoing for a puppy. So just stick to your guns, establish the routines for leaving him, night time, etc & try to make the experiences as positive for him as you can. HTH

Thanks. just wanted someones opinion to make sure its ok. cheers

LisaO

nathan89 wrote: »

Thanks. just wanted someones opinion to make sure its ok. cheers

No bothers. But bear in mind that is just my opinion. I am by no means an expert - there are others more experienced & qualified who may be abe to give you more suggestions

nemo32

LisaO wrote: »

Have several different size Kongs here & can all be completely cleaned out by both my 7 month Staffie & 8 year old Lab. Maybe try the largest size Extreme (black) Kong for your guy?

I stuff them with kibble, cottage cheese, grated cheese, peanut butter, coconut milk, small treats, etc. I usually "seal" the hole to make them last longer - a slice of black or white pudding is just the job, especially if it's frozen!

Thanks LisaO,

It must be the size of the Kong that's the problem then. He has a sniff around it and tries to get his tougne in then loses interest. He also doesn't like peanut butter so will try at the cottage cheese next when I get the black Kong. Tks for the info

LisaO

nemo32 wrote: »

Thanks LisaO,

It must be the size of the Kong that's the problem then. He has a sniff around it and tries to get his tougne in then loses interest. He also doesn't like peanut butter so will try at the cottage cheese next when I get the black Kong. Tks for the info

No problem. Peanut butter isn't for every dog... the texture makes it stick to the roof of their mouth & then they can find it hard to get off - think this is what they use in films, ads, etc to make it look as if the dog is talking!

Your guy might prefer more savoury options - cottage or soft cheese, meat paste, even a smear of marmite or bovril (but very salty!)

Mine are absolute gluttons - I could put celery & lettuce in a Kong & there would be rows over it

nathan89

the little fella didnt get through his kong at lunch. musnt like peanut butter and prob doesnt know how the kong works. ill have to experiment with some food to see what will attract.

LisaO

See my post above re: peanut butter.

Make sure the kong he has is small enough for him to be able to pick it up & manoeuvre with his mouth & paws.

Start off with small amounts of loose, dry food - regular dog food, tiny cubes of ham & cheese - that will fall out easily when he moves the Kong around. Then slowly increase the difficulty of it.

It has to be worth the effort for him, otherwise he will lose interest.

Good Luck