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Bullied to death..

  • 13-10-2012 2:03am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭


    So a pretty, young girl from Canada took her own life after suffering horrendous amounts off abuse. Basically she used her webcam with strangers online and flashed them her bewbs.. Some perv decided to a screen capture and try to blackmail her into doing a show for him.. She evidently refused and he sent the screen capture to all her family and friends etc.. This causes a huge ****storm and she gets ridiculed and loses friends etc and she tries to kill herself on more than one occasion.. Eventually she succeeds but not before crying for help on youtube..

    I think there should be an awareness campaign for naive people that don't realise that if they flash anyone on a webcam it can be saved by whomever it is they are flashing.. This poor girl is gone but perhaps her actions can be used to help the future generations to know what they get themselves in for when they flash people online.

    On another note it is sick that some scumbag ruined a childs life and eventually caused her to kill herself because he wanted his sick kicks.. And I hope they can trace the scumbag and arrest him on a minimum of manslughter and any other related charges..

    Anyway here is the links:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/11/amanda-todd-suicide-bullying_n_1959909.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7afkypUsc


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    I really fear for young folk these days who live in a time where doing something daft can be captured easily by a recording device on a PC/phone.

    I was a pretty stupid fucker when I was younger and I feel lucky that the stupid shit I done isn't recorded and made public so that it can follow me forever more.

    It was much easier to leave stuff in the past not so long ago.

    Poor girl.

    RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Tragic case that could have been and should have been prevented. The dangers of the internet really have to be taught to young people. Particularly in this age where the computer has become god and kids learn how to operate modern apparatus before they walk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    totaly agreed OP.
    she may have been camwhoring but he blackmailed and threatened a teen to the point she coudnt cope and developed severe mental illnesses and finaly sucesesfuly atempted suicide.
    disgusting,he shoud be caught,jailed then never allowed near the internet again.

    just read a comment on there which have often seen said about people who have killed themselves through bullying-
    Ok, there's more to this story than simply that she was bullied and it caused her to kill herself.

    She developed a host of other issues, per the report, that were more about her inability to cope with stigma, than for actually being harassed. There IS a point where it's no longer about the trigger event and the responsibility is with the person and their family.

    Yes, bullying is real, it should be addressed. But it is not the catalyst for every teenager's clinical depression. Media is making it seem like this is some sort of new "uber mean" society....

    Kids were flashing cameras back when I was in high school. People had reputations, compromising pictures circulated, people were talked about very ungraciously. But it didn't cause everyone to develop mental illness. This girl got away from her bullying situation, was surrounded with new people who cared about her and did their best to make her feel welcome - and she STILL had mental illness, caused harm to herself. It could have been ANY kind of embarassing situation that triggered it.
    ]
    its very wrong that anyone can take responsibility and consequence away from the bully
    just because we all have different tolerance levels to situations who is to say one persons tolerance is the standard and anyone whose tolerance to bullying is lower than that clearly
    are mentaly at fault.
    sorry but that is BS, any bully who targets a person for long enough to trigger them into mental illness needs bringing to justice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    Very,very sad.

    Hope they can track down the scumbag who tried to blackmail the poor kid.

    R.I.P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    That video of her is , well the saddest video I have ever watched. The girl moved city to get away from the pricks and they still wouldn't let it be, now that beautiful girl is after killing herself.

    Jesus, fuck me is all I can say.

    I now honestly believe there is no hell or heaven, we are actually living in hell on this planet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jay-me


    Scruffles wrote: »
    totaly agreed OP.
    she may have been camwhoring but he blackmailed and threatened a teen to the point she coudnt cope and developed severe mental illnesses and finaly sucesesfuly atempted suicide.
    disgusting,he shoud be caught,jailed then never allowed near the internet again.

    just read a comment on there which have often seen said about people who have killed themselves through bullying-

    its very wrong that anyone can take responsibility and consequence away from the bully
    just because we all have different tolerance levels to situations who is to say one persons tolerance is the standard and anyone whose tolerance to bullying is lower than that clearly
    are mentaly at fault.
    sorry but that is BS, any bully who targets a person for long enough to trigger them into mental illness needs bringing to justice.

    I would say the knowledge that members of her family and her friends having seen her in a compromised position would have had a detrimental effect on her mental state..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭marshbaboon


    Where is link to bewb flashing exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jay-me


    Where is link to bewb flashing exactly?

    Oh my apologies, I forgot to link to the child porn for you.. :rolleyes: here it is link


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,033 ✭✭✭mauzo


    Where is link to bewb flashing exactly?

    Seriously....just no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    @ Scruffles copy pasta on the 'camwhoring' and would like to address it.
    She developed a host of other issues, per the report, that were more about her inability to cope with stigma, than for actually being harassed. There IS a point where it's no longer about the trigger event and the responsibility is with the person and their family.

    Obvious victim blaming is obvious. Her tormentor was deliberately making her life hell and not letting her move on. There is a difference between a trigger point and someone following you with a gun and shooting you in the back in spite of your attempts to escape.
    Kids were flashing cameras back when I was in high school ... compromising pictures circulated

    A kid's school of photography? Lies.
    People had reputations,

    That they could deny or leave behind or get away from geographically by moving location. Not these days if indiscretions are recorded.
    This girl got away from her bullying situation,

    No she ****ing didn't - her tormentor made sure of it.
    was surrounded with new people who cared about her and did their best tomake her feel welcome - and she STILL had mental illness, caused harm to herself . took advantage of her vulnerable situation when they discovered it and contributed to her trauma

    Victim blaming bullshit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Where is link to bewb flashing exactly?

    After Hours or not, you're fucking sick


    So so sad........ Such a tragedy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    They can do him for child porn easy enough. Whatever about trying to prove the other stuff such as harassment, that should be cut and dried


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    Maybe I'm wrong but it's not only the bullies fault but I think their parents also have a responsibility for rearing ignorant, selfish, nasty little pricks.
    I hate bullies with a passion & from what I have witnessed of most of them is that they didn't pick it up off the street. They either saw or heard things at home that made them that way or they just didn't get enough of an explanation on the rights & wrongs of life.
    I'm not trying to deflect responsibility away from them or make excuses for what they did.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If this was a 7th grader boy who was **** on camera for some girl, the media would paint a very different picture in a "sick pervert takes life" story. But hey, it's a girl creating child porn of herself so she must be a victim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore


    If this was a 7th grader boy who was **** on camera for some girl, the media would paint a very different picture in a "sick pervert takes life" story. But hey, it's a girl creating child porn of herself so she must be a victim.

    Man, that's a stupid post. Maybe you don't mean to say what it's saying but if you do then shame on you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    If this was a 7th grader boy who was **** on camera for some girl, the media would paint a very different picture in a "sick pervert takes life" story. But hey, it's a girl creating child porn of herself so she must be a victim.
    It was a girl flashing her boob, hardly hard core Ron Jeremy stuff.
    I'm all for equality of sexes but comments like the one you made are just so, so stupid I don't even know where to begin.
    Cop on to yourself & save that argument for another thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    But hey, it's a girl creating child porn of herself so she must be a victim.

    A child cannot consensually create porn of her/himself (such reprehensible terminology) by the very nature of being a child.

    Do me a favour. Imagine this happened to your sister/niece/daughter..

    how does it feel now?

    Vigilantes 'R' us?


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    yore wrote: »
    Man, that's a stupid post. Maybe you don't mean to say what it's saying but if you do then shame on you.
    Shame on the guy who forwarded the pictures.
    Shame on her for flashing and instantly putting him in possession of childporn.
    Shame on anyone who says the guy deserves manslaughter.. I read it that he forwarded the pictures and it was everyone in her life that bullied her.
    Shame on everyone in her life who thought a nudie pic was enough reason to bully someone.
    Shame on the Huffington Post for posting about 20 pictures of her.
    Shame on me? No.
    It was a girl flashing her boob, hardly hard core Ron Jeremy stuff.
    I'm all for equality of sexes but comments like the one you made are just so, so stupid I don't even know where to begin.
    Cop on to yourself & save that argument for another thread.
    How is my comment so so so stupid? This isn't a condolences thread. It's a thread about getting naked online and the consequences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice



    How is my comment so so so stupid? This isn't a condolences thread. It's a thread about getting naked online and the consequences.

    No, its not. Its a thread about an innocent 12 year old girl who was vunerable and taken advantage of by a predator and made a mistake, and the suffering she endured afterwards

    Were you ever naive and made a silly mistake?

    Edit: Not to mention, the girl had learning difficulties

    http://www.vancouversun.com/Amanda+Todd+speaks+about+daughter+death/7384521/story.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭girl in the striped socks


    yore wrote: »
    Man, that's a stupid post. Maybe you don't mean to say what it's saying but if you do then shame on you.
    Shame on the guy who forwarded the pictures.
    Shame on her for flashing and instantly putting him in possession of childporn.
    Shame on anyone who says the guy deserves manslaughter.. I read it that he forwarded the pictures and it was everyone in her life that bullied her.
    Shame on everyone in her life who thought a nudie pic was enough reason to bully someone.
    Shame on the Huffington Post for posting about 20 pictures of her.
    Shame on me? No.
    It was a girl flashing her boob, hardly hard core Ron Jeremy stuff.
    I'm all for equality of sexes but comments like the one you made are just so, so stupid I don't even know where to begin.
    Cop on to yourself & save that argument for another thread.
    How is my comment so so so stupid? This isn't a condolences thread. It's a thread about getting naked online and the consequences.
    Your comment is stupid because you portray what she did as child porn, it wasn't.
    What has it got to do with anything whether the victim was male or female?
    A teenager still killed themselves over online bullying, gender shouldn't be an issue. So save the male vs female debate for another thread.
    And you didn't even discuss the consequences of getting naked online, you pointed out she was female & if it was a male victim then people would view it differently.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭jay-me


    Shame on the guy who forwarded the pictures.
    Shame on her for flashing and instantly putting him in possession of childporn.
    Shame on anyone who says the guy deserves manslaughter.. I read it that he forwarded the pictures and it was everyone in her life that bullied her.
    Shame on everyone in her life who thought a nudie pic was enough reason to bully someone.
    Shame on the Huffington Post for posting about 20 pictures of her.
    Shame on me? No.

    How is my comment so so so stupid? This isn't a condolences thread. It's a thread about getting naked online and the consequences.

    Hormone induced sexual experimenting is at most an innocent / naive mistake on the girls part. There is nothing inheritantly wrong with a 15 year old bearing herself to someone her own age in private.. But this naive little girl didn't realise her seconds of excitement could be recorded and used in the way it was.. Some lowlife tried to force her to give him his jollies and when he was refused purposely tried to cause her emotional turmoil.. Due to this she had to move town and was already making public the effect it was having on her.. And yet he continued his smear campaign which directly caused her to want to kill herself.. This is definitely worthy of a manslaughter charge in my eyes..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    jay-me wrote: »
    This is definitely worthy of a manslaughter charge in my eyes..

    Fuck Manslaughter, I'd be looking for Murder & Pedophilia on this, and the bastards kids who were making fun of her as accessory to Murder.
    This guy was calculating and researched. He knew exactly what he was doing, and in fact he went out of his way to track her down again and again and do his level best to make her live as miserable as possible cos he couldn't get enough of his jollies. Manslaughter would be too good for the scum.

    I really really hope there's some serious action taken about this. Its happening far too many times these days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭yore



    How is my comment so so so stupid? This isn't a condolences thread. It's a thread about getting naked online and the consequences.

    A kid flashed, maybe for a split second. She didn't know the perv was taping her. He then used it to try to blackmail her into performing more explicit stuff online. When she wouldn't, he forwarded it on to her family and friends.

    I'm assuming the fella was a little bit older or at least more savvy than the girl. Why? Because he had a program running recording his webcam chats.

    Put it into other analogous terms the you might relate to. a fella persuades a younger girl to come visit him in his house. While there, he kisses her on the couch. nothing more. but he's persistent. Eventually he manages to persuade her to lift her top up to show him her boobs. Then she leaves. Later on she find out the fella had a hidden camera and threatens to send pictures to her friends or family unless she lets him tape her doing more explicit stuff. She refuses and he sends out the pictures. Your attitude is that she is guilty of child porn and is to blame for some scumbag taping her.

    Whatever about taping her, vindictively actually sending it to her family and friends with no purpose other than humiliate her is fucking sickening. She's only a kid.

    Do you have any sisters? Would you be happy if one of their ex's sent some naked photos of her to your entire family? even though she may be an adult, I don't think it'd go down too well. Now imagine she's a young kid trying to go through that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭wyndham


    I smell a law & order episode out of this. McCoy would get charge him with Man1, get him to plead out to Man2, he'll do 4-7 yrs upstate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    wyndham wrote: »
    I smell a law & order episode out of this. McCoy would get charge him with Man1, get him to plead out to Man2, he'll do 4-7 yrs upstate.

    Hardly a thread to be humorous about someones plight is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭gilmour


    Sad sad story.

    On another point, its times like this that i realise how absolutely idiotic human beings can be when responding to something like this via the internet. The clown on the first page of this thread trying his best to either wind people up or to get a dose of thanks on his post to make himself feel like he is the **** is a good example. The comments on youtube however are even more extreme, if there is a c*nt inside you the internet will definitely help bring it out for everyone to see.


  • Posts: 50,630 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Where is link to bewb flashing exactly?

    Banned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭Furious_George


    Shame on her for flashing and instantly putting him in possession of childporn.
    Shame on anyone who says the guy deserves manslaughter.

    Manslaughter? If some sick pervert did this to my daughter I would pay someone to track his IP address then I would very take pleasure in slowly torturing him until he begs for his life. His plees would be in vain. I would call it murder pure and simple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Scruffles wrote: »
    Ok, there's more to this story than simply that she was bullied and it caused her to kill herself.

    She developed a host of other issues, per the report, that were more about her inability to cope with stigma, than for actually being harassed. There IS a point where it's no longer about the trigger event and the responsibility is with the person and their family.

    Yes, bullying is real, it should be addressed. But it is not the catalyst for every teenager's clinical depression. Media is making it seem like this is some sort of new "uber mean" society....

    Kids were flashing cameras back when I was in high school. People had reputations, compromising pictures circulated, people were talked about very ungraciously. But it didn't cause everyone to develop mental illness. This girl got away from her bullying situation, was surrounded with new people who cared about her and did their best to make her feel welcome - and she STILL had mental illness, caused harm to herself. It could have been ANY kind of embarassing situation that triggered it.
    What a crock of sh!t. It's like saying that a drunk driver knocked someone down and they ended up in a coma. While in the coma they developed pnuemonia and died, therefore it's not the drunk driver's fault as the person could've developed pneumonia at any time :rolleyes:

    That person sounds like an arrogant gobsh!te who is too thick to understand that times are very different now than "back in his/her day".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    The scumbag who caused this should hang himself in shame.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    What a crock of sh!t. It's like saying that a drunk driver knocked someone down and they ended up in a coma. While in the coma they developed pnuemonia and died, therefore it's not the drunk driver's fault as the person could've developed pneumonia at any time :rolleyes:

    What if it's not a drunk driver.. If I just crash into the back of someone and they develop further complications, do I get done for manslaughter?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭Light Switch


    Slightly off topic but Kids try grow up way too fast!

    Look at the make-up/clothes they wear when going to teen discos.


    RIP to the girl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭TommyKnocker


    What if it's not a drunk driver.. If I just crash into the back of someone and they develop further complications, do I get done for manslaughter?

    If the person would still be alive if you hadn't crashed into them, then IMHO yes, you are guilty of veichular manslaughter, as the person died as a result of complications which developed from injuries received when you ran into the back of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    What if it's not a drunk driver.. If I just crash into the back of someone and they develop further complications, do I get done for manslaughter?

    If you're at fault yes.

    What this girl endured was no accident.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    I read a shared status on facebook about this and thought it was the usual fishing for likes with stories but I still felt sorry reading it.

    Poor girl, the people around should her realise exactly what THEY caused and I hope they rot in hell if they don't, the pervert that took the screenshot should be jailed.
    May she rest in peace

    And for the people saying shame on her for flashing, don't judge her, yeah sure she did it, big fúckin deal. Don't tell me you've all never did things you regret when you were her age. But unfortunately we're growing up in an age where everything we do can come back to haunt you due to technology, and most young people don't know that. Sure once you delete something, it's gone right? NO


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Nimrod 7 wrote: »
    I read a shared status on facebook about this and thought it was the usual fishing for likes with stories but I still felt sorry reading it.

    Poor girl, the people around should her realise exactly what THEY caused and I hope they rot in hell if they don't, the pervert that took the screenshot should be jailed.
    May she rest in peace

    And for the people saying shame on her for flashing, don't judge her, yeah sure she did it, big fúckin deal. Don't tell me you've all never did things you regret when you were her age. But unfortunately we're growing up in an age where everything we do can come back to haunt you due to technology, and most young people don't know that. Sure once you delete something, it's gone right? NO

    Well said.

    I really feel for the girl. She took a screenshot of her boobs. Big effing deal. You see just as much on a beach these days.

    She was a child, which some people seem to forget.

    If someone tried to bribe me with shots of my t*ts, I would be able to laugh it off and say go ahead... who cares.

    This young girl was unable to see that.

    She was young and sought solace in the arms of a guys who she thought cared about her. He only wanted onething and when his gf found out she then became enemy number one.

    It didnt help that she was pretty.... no doubt that incensed the gf further. Not sure why the gf made it about her and not the cheating boyfriend,but that is immaturity for you. :rolleyes:

    Irememberbeing in High School and howimportant it was to be liked and popular.

    To feel as if everyone hates you and wants you dead..... good God, I can only imagine the hurt and pain she endured.

    Anyone focusing on the fact she flashed her tits needs to cop the hell on. She was a teenager, at the age when a guy's opinion matters.... the creep that threatened her was aware of this and should be charged.

    The saddest thing of all is that she was unable to see that life goes on far beyond being liked in the schoolyard.

    May she rest in peace.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    One thing i don't get is,why the **** didn't anybody track the bastard down.If it was my daughter and this chap was after adding her on facebook i'd be straight onto the police,after all she is underage.Or if i had a way of gathering more information i'd be after smashing his door down and killing the bastard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Sad story but did she look for any help in the real world, or report the harassment and torment she was being subjected to? The media loves stories like this.. bullied to death by evil trolls on the evil internet. She obviously had some major issues with depression and anxiety. Obviously I'm only going on what is reported, but I doubt that the only cause of her suicide was bullying. Blaming it on just one thing hides elements of and over-simplifies what depression actually is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,822 ✭✭✭sunflower27


    Sad story but did she look for any help in the real world, or report the harassment and torment she was being subjected to? The media loves stories like this.. bullied to death by evil trolls on the evil internet. She obviously had some major issues with depression and anxiety. Obviously I'm only going on what is reported, but I doubt that the only cause of her suicide was bullying. Blaming it on just one thing hides elements of and over-simplifies what depression actually is.

    The 'blaming it on one thing' is over-simplifying it.

    She was alientated by everyone in her school and left to eat lunch on her own.

    She was also tracked down in her new school in a bid to make sure her life was hell when she moved on. That is what seems to have made her depressed and unable to leave the house.

    She was taunted and harrassed online daily and did not tell anyone because she was afraid. She had been beaten up and told to die by numerous people. She was no doubt petrified for her life. i sure would be ifpeople were saying they wanted me dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Tomk1


    Why wasn't this man caught/tracked down when he first tried to blackmail her, couldn't the "mounties" set up a sting operation? Then after he released that photo, why didn't the RCMP: Canadian-FBI work-with or force facebook "the social network" to aid in tracking him down, also have facebook left itself open to be sued by her parents for allowing a nude underage photo of their daughter on it's site.
    The man spread the photos around, causing the girl to be ridiculed by her classmates. According to Amanda's mother, Carol Todd, the girl developed depression, anxiety and started dabbling with alcohol and drugs.

    She changed schools, only to find the man had posted a Facebook page with her name and her naked photos plastered as profile pics.

    “I can never get that photo back,” Amanda had wrote, in a desperate plea to get her life back. Classmates at the new school started harassing her, until, one day beating her up in front of the school. Amanda ran home and attempted to kill herself, drinking bleach. That didn't stop the bullies however. They posted on her Facebook page that they wished she was dead.
    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Amanda-Todd-Teenager-Commits-Suicide-After-Asking-Bullies-to-Leave-Her-Be-on-YouTube-298908.shtml

    -but I guess FB is ok someone setup a RIP page that's getting 11K+ likes (note not the like's I want glad she's dead kind but the "we community should of done something" kind of thing but tad too busy posting what we had for breakie... I think her parents should make facebook remove all pages about her, because I think it's insulting that a site implicated in her bullying will now make a buck from her death, -it's a company incorporating a community

    There's a multi-lack of responsibility that let this girl down, the mounties, facebook for facilitating the targeting of this girl, the school system -"outside of school -not our responsibility. I read that her parents tried councilling, medication, moving schools twice, which also means school-bullying had taken place in 3 seperate schools -no excuses.
    -In a seperate story on school bullying of a 7yr old:
    "I did the proper channels. I told the teacher. She dealt with it in her way, it didn't stop. I went to the principal, it continued. I went to the parents, it stopped," she said.
    http://www.kamloopsnews.ca/article/20121013/KAMLOOPS0101/121019930/-1/kamloops/kamloops-kids-suffer-bully-nightmares

    Back to the OP story
    This time around, Todd responded to the stress by cutting herself. Nonetheless, she even changed schools once again, and matters reportedly got worse, as she was beaten up by a group of girls who were associated with a boy she had flirted with.

    "Kids filmed it. I was all alone and left on the ground. Teachers ran over but I just went and layed in a ditch and my dad found me," Todd further elaborated.
    http://www.enstarz.com/articles/7965/20121012/amanda-todd-death-bullied-teen-who-posted-video-on-youtube-commits-suicide.htm

    Sounds like that other thread where some have commented that it's a waste of Garda resources, too many bystanders of bullying do nothing and go along with it, just glad they're not the target & have a fear of standing together against bullying practices, because face it there is no "together" just everyone out for themselves to save their own asses.

    "Layed in the ditch" sounds like human-trash, but hard to accept that probably the ditch was the last safest place on this planet for her to be.

    This young brave girl stood up against being blackmailed, stood up against being bullied & the now the world is a lesser place without her.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Tomk1 wrote: »
    also have facebook left itself open to be sued by her parents for allowing a nude underage photo of their daughter on it's site

    There was a story about a guy from the North last year who was trying to sue Facebook because pictures of his naked 12 year old daughter were uploaded. A thread was posted here about it and practically everyone sided with Facebook on the matter. They blamed shoddy and lazy parenting instead.

    I wonder if they'd have the same views on this story. Surely with proper parenting the girl would have never been in a situation where she posted naked pictures of herself online.

    Actually, that thread was posted by the same OP as this one... - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056380846


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    This makes me so sad. All the blame being directed towards her and the parents. She shouldn't have taken photos of herself - seriously? What about the guy who stalked her and sent her photo to everyone she knew in an effort to embarrass her?

    The mom has taken to Twitter now to spread anti-bullying sentiment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    God just seen the story and watched the video i welled up very sad, I'm a bit confused and now i'm no expert but with parents knowing would it not have been better to stay and confront the problems instead of running away from them?? Rip and shame on the prick that blackmailed her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    Any one know if the pictures of her in the morgue are real? very messed up if so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 gitterbug


    Sad fact of the matter is we have a generation of keyboard warriors that think its perfectly fine to abuse people through social media! Without a thought for that persons state of mind at that time. Before social media if we had a row we someone we had to stew all day and think about it, decide what we were going to say.

    now those things are posted in anger without thought with the sole intention of hurt. It's just too easy to abuse people.being around young people who just don't care how much they hurt each other is heartbreaking. A generation with no fear of consequences for their actions. Generation that doesn't understand that once something is posted in the Internet it's there FOREVER! Sad really :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, EVER do or say anything online that you wouldn't be happy for the whole world to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Shame on her for flashing and instantly putting him in possession of childporn..
    Shame on you for posting that. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,967 ✭✭✭✭Zulu


    Kimia wrote: »
    This makes me so sad. All the blame being directed towards her and the parents. She shouldn't have taken photos of herself - seriously? What about the guy who stalked her and sent her photo to everyone she knew in an effort to embarrass her?

    The mom has taken to Twitter now to spread anti-bullying sentiment.
    Kimia, it breaks my heart as well. What sort of society are we creating for ourselves?

    The child made a naive mistake, as she's entitled to do as a child. That anyone could attempt to direct some/any blame towards her is sickening. :(

    Very, very sickening.

    Compassion people, try it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    One thing i don't get is,why the **** didn't anybody track the bastard down.If it was my daughter and this chap was after adding her on facebook i'd be straight onto the police,after all she is underage.Or if i had a way of gathering more information i'd be after smashing his door down and killing the bastard.

    Per the comments on the Huffington Post they have tracked him down (the hacktivist group Anonymous) and have posted all his details on the net. However, I'd be dubious given the source of this information the problem being, to use their name, it is anonymous and in the same vain of keyboard warriors. But if genuine, hopefully they have passed all this information and proof to the Cops.
    Looks like Anonymous has: http://pastebin.com/6W8Ssw3k

    Or simply Google" Amanda Todd Anonymous" CBC News says that they posted everything on the pedo - he's a 30 year old in New West - yikes

    Social Networking and its downfalls should be part of every Civics class (is there are still such things) in secondary schools and possibly the art of how to ignore or develop a thick skin to anonymous posts. It baffles me in this case how no one stood up for this girl. She made a stupid mistake that kids do and yet was ridiculed by her own family and so called friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    I feel like there are so many things that need to be added to the educational curriculum in schools nowadays.

    Bullying - there needs to be strong education done on this. Zero tolerance. An emphasis on empathy and treating others with consideration. This should be taught to children from the minute they step inside a school because (and I'm not excusing them, far from it) their parents may be unable/unwilling to do this.

    Sexual education - my god, this is due for a revamp. Girls who think that they need to a) have sex with boys so that boys will like them, b) boys who get their sex-ed from porn and as such have high expectations on themselves and others, c) the shame/embarrassment that STILL surrounds talking about sex, d) protection and more information on stds/pregnancy without judgement of abortion etc

    Interpersonal relationships & practicing tolerance - the fact is, Ireland is becoming multi-cultural. We need to expand our horizons and learn about the other communities that have immigrated to Ireland over the past however many years. Ignorance is not an excuse.

    Spirituality - rather than teaching about religion and what you should/should not do and what's a sin etc, why don't we teach children from a theological perspective about all the different religions or spiritual beliefs (including the likes of paganism, humanism etc) and what each believe. The history of the religions, and essential to this should be a discussion on tolerance for others (again).

    Basically, it's all about education and tolerance. The more we know, the less we fear, and the less we hate out of fear.


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