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What Is Love?

  • 11-10-2012 8:36am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    I'm facing a relationship difficulty at the moment, and I'm hoping that just getting a few responses to this question might help towards me figuring it out...What is love to you? If you say you love your partner, does it mean you want to be with them forever? Can't imagine yourself with anyone else? etc etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Baby don't hurt me......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    I couldn't resist! I'm sorry! :pac:

    I thought I was in love before, till I met my current boyfriend and now I'm not sure because the way I feel for him is a lot different, more intense and so much better.

    For me love is I think about him first whenever anything happens and it makes me happy to think of him. I think of our future together and that makes me happy. Thinking of things we did in the past makes me happy.

    I guess what is really different about this relationship is I do think of our future, and right now I feel I would be happy with him the rest of my life and I have no doubts about that. And I can't see myself with any other guy because I don't see how any other guy could be as good. Past relationships I was full of doubts, wasn't happy all the time, would think if I could do better. Now I just feel very lucky that I have someone who loves me back and some days i can't believe it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 944 ✭✭✭xDramaxQueenx


    Love is magic comfort food for the weak


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭The Cool


    Aristotle -
    "Love is composed of a single soul inhabiting two bodies."

    Plato -
    "Love is a serious mental disease."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    Interesting thread. It's really got me thinking. I suppose for me it's like Princess Peach said, if anything happens he's the first person I think of, if I'm having a bad day I know he can make me feel better without even saying anything. He's my first boyfriend and we're together almost 2 years now. Some people would say "he's your first, how would you know?" but I really couldn't imagine being without him or spending the rest of my life with anyone else.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    Had a drunken chat with himself about this one night. I think it depends on the person.
    For me love is wanting the other person to be happy with no ulterior motive.
    I do things because I know he will like them or it will make his day easier. I like looking after him and I love making him happy and knowing I put that smile on his face.
    And for no other reason than I want him to be happy. Not so he will do things in return and not because it benefits me, just because I really want to make his life better. Although because it makes me happy too, maybe it is selfish ;)

    (PS - he does loads to make me happy too, with no benefit in it for him so it's mutual. I think if it weren't mutual it would be really unhealthy actually)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Love is different to different people and with different people. There's romantic love, sexual love, platonic/friendship love, obsessive love... I think when it comes to partners it's best when all those (even obsessive love a little) mixes together for someone.

    Fr example, I love my girlfriend. I feel all those types of love up there for her, even obsessive. That is, I think about her a huge amount. (Even moreso now were back doing long distance aain...) Obviously not to the point of doing something to keep her with me if she wanted to leave, but obsessive to the point that I would do a huge amount to make her happy.

    And that's the crux of it for me. I want her to be happy. I want to do things that make her smile, make life easier for her, take away her hurt, give her joy. Of course I get a huge amount of happiness from being around her and being in a relationship with her. She does things to make me smile, make my life easier, etc. And we both have made sacrifices in our personal lives to keep us together and keep the other person happy. Not by changing to fabric of who we are as a person, but compromising what we want and need from life right now. I'm sure she would much prefer to be looking for work in her field in Canada or Australia, but she has taken on a pretty crappy unrelated job and lives at home with her folks so she can help me through the finish of my education so that together we can go do those things. She didn't put them off forever, but just compromised on the timing. That's love.

    I have done similar things in the past, like not kicked up a fuss when she went and did an internship in Asia, like making sure she had money when I was working and she wasn't.

    I can see my future with her- in fact she pretty much is my future. That's not to say I couldn't be perfectly happy with someone else. Of course I could. But I don't want to. If it's a choice between going out, finding girls and trying to get them home with me, or sitting in on a Saturday night watching cooking shows while she knits and I read a book, I know exactly which I'd choose. Just being around her makes me happy, and I know she feels te same, which makes me even happier.

    I also think if you can have a blazing row and still prefer to be around them when they have just pissed you off no end, well that's as close to love as I've ever figured out.

    Man, that went on a bit, sorry everyone!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭stop animal cruelty


    Baby don't hurt me......

    Don't hurt me....no more....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Baby don't hurt me......

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,327 ✭✭✭Madam_X


    Love is magic comfort food for the weak
    No it isn't.

    The strong experience it too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    Love for me is still getting goose bumps after 17 years, being able to spend time together and be happy while not talking. Love is being able to talk to one another and never get bored. Love is laughing together. Love is sleeping on the other person's side of the bed if they are not there because you love the scent of them. Love is them being 'home' for you. Love is being able to have a disagreement but make up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 254 ✭✭rubytuesday86


    Love is the text he sends each morning because he knows I love waking up to nice texts.
    Love is that first kiss when he walks through the door.
    Love is the cup of tea when it's needed. It's that look, that hug, that squeeze.
    It's all the little things and everything inbetween


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    I also wonder about love, if you love someone a lot in every way but not feeling the sexual attraction,does that justify staying together?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 343 ✭✭Sorcha16


    I'm not sure if this is my personal definition of love but it always makes me cry at weddings.

    "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    I would personally class someone who was adamantly closed off to the idea of love as weak.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Sorcha16 wrote: »
    I'm not sure if this is my personal definition of love but it always makes me cry at weddings.

    "Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres"

    This is probably it for me, it's just accepting someone for who they are, loving them sometimes despite it, taking other occurences/influences into account

    I'd a great conversation tonight with the OH, and the quote above probably covers all of the things we talked about.

    I'd add in that love not only hopes, but believes in a future and strives for it.

    The death of love is a horrendous thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Spangles


    You know when you're in love when your partner's idiosyncrasies make you smile..always...when you cherish every moment together and accept them as they are. When you look forward to the next moment together and appreciate the moment when you're in it - doing even the most normal things. Showing mutual respect and being there for each other...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    I was visiting someone in a ward in Beaumont a few years ago. It was a room full of people who were waiting to have serious surgeries the next day. Everyone was understandably on edge. There was a woman in the bed next to who I was visiting whose husband was lying on the bed with her. They weren't saying anything, just holding hands. Somehow I knew that when visiting hours were over he wouldn't make a fuss, but he wouldn't be leaving her either.

    That's love.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Pride Fighter


    I've never posted here, but the strangest thing happened to me on Tuesday between around 4 and 4:30. I was getting the bus home from Town with my brother and the bus was full apart from a few seats. My brother got a seat and in front of him there was a seat. The lady sitting at the window had her bag on it and removed it for me and looked at me with the prettiest smile I've ever seen. I smiled back as her smile just seemed to go through me.

    I was slightly uncomfortable sitting there, as this person I never met before was able to affect me with one smile. Also cause my brother was there I could not spark a conversation with this lady, as he'd only embarrass me in front of her.

    Getting off the bus I took a step on the first step of the stairs. I stopped. I looked up to this lady to see her head turning towards me. She was looking at me!! For about 4-5 seconds, but to me felt like an eternity we looked at each other, she was smiling with the most beautiful smile and I smiled back.

    I think in my case it may have been love at first sight. I have never felt that before, and it was amazing.

    I regret not asking her number and asking her out for coffee. I only hope I see her again and that the way her smile affected me, my smile affected her in the same way and she remembers me.

    If this ever happens, I'll quote this message in the future and give an update. I am not hopeful, but Ireland is a small country. If it does happen, I'll be the happiest person ever. If it does, I guess the old Latin saying 'Amor vincit omnia' is true.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think its a huge question and very hard to answer, but to the op if you are having doubts its properly not love.

    My first marriage broke up I had a few relationships and then I met my now husband and the one thing I can say is there was no doubt's and it was all very easy no questioning things, no having to work on the relationship, it was perfect from beginning, perfect in a calm quiet easy way people say we are like two peas in a pod and I do think we are soul mates...before I met him I would have been very dismissive of the idea of soul mates.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Shivers26


    I think love is different for everybody.

    I think it's being able to forgive easily.
    I think its a hug when you really need one
    A kind word, a smile, an inside joke
    Still holding hands after almost 8 years and not being too embarrassed to do so in front of friends
    Its all the little things he does for me or in our home to make me happy
    Its the joy I get from making him happy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    I think love is being on the same page as somebody. Emotionally, physically, mentally, in your life goals and aspirations, in your moral values.

    I thought I was in love once. Quite recently actually. But geography became a problem and it was too easy for him to walk away.

    Well maybe not easy, that's not fair, as I know he was torn apart by the decision and has been in a state ever since we broke up. But the fact that it even was a decision in the first place, makes me question the very premise of that 'love' I thought we had. It was a deep infatuation, lust, an overwhelming emotional connection, a strong mental bond, but love? I don't know.

    When you love somebody, you don't walk away. Even when it seems like the best/easiest/most logical/practical thing to do. That's about it for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    beks101 wrote: »
    I think love is being on the same page as somebody. Emotionally, physically, mentally, in your life goals and aspirations, in your moral values.

    I thought I was in love once. Quite recently actually. But geography became a problem and it was too easy for him to walk away.

    Well maybe not easy, that's not fair, as I know he was torn apart by the decision and has been in a state ever since we broke up. But the fact that it even was a decision in the first place, makes me question the very premise of that 'love' I thought we had. It was a deep infatuation, lust, an overwhelming emotional connection, a strong mental bond, but love? I don't know.

    When you love somebody, you don't walk away. Even when it seems like the best/easiest/most logical/practical thing to do. That's about it for me.

    Sorry to hear that Beks. Hope you're alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    mountai wrote: »
    snipped quoted post - Twee.


    Have you got some kind of infection or something?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    mountai's post deleted and quoted text removed.


    Twee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    When there's that moment that your heart swells and you can feel love in your eyes. You know that they are literally filling up with love and your boyfriend can see you looking at them with adoration and shiny, softened eyes. I call it "schmushy eyes". Usually goes hand in hand with wanting to cuddle up & squeeze them so tight that you are one person. It knocks the air out of you. I used to get it all the time, and after 8 years, I get it from time to time & it's really special. I seriously go all coy and can hardly look at him. My fiance is like "awhhh do you have schmushy eyes??"

    That's the beautiful, addictive chemistry & physiology of being "in love". That fades, and I feel the guilt. As far as love goes this quote from Captain Corelli's Mandolin that I read on another thread here has really struck a chord in me and is the epitome of every decent relationship's lifespan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭shrewd


    For me, i believe Love can be defined as a condition in which the welfare and happiness of another become essential to your own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,032 ✭✭✭Bubblefett


    My grandfather loved my Granny- a real old fashioned, storybook, strong love. I always remember when he was going into hospital the day he died he grabbed one of the nursing home staff by the arm and made them swear they would take care of my Gran for him.
    He said the same to my mother moments before the end. She was the only thing on his mind when his time came. Even now I'm sure he still watches over her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Shivers26


    Bubblefett wrote: »
    My grandfather loved my Granny- a real old fashioned, storybook, strong love. I always remember when he was going into hospital the day he died he grabbed one of the nursing home staff by the arm and made them swear they would take care of my Gran for him.
    He said the same to my mother moments before the end. She was the only thing on his mind when his time came. Even now I'm sure he still watches over her.

    I have to admit, a little tear came out reading that. I think its the kind of love I will always aspire to.

    I was chatting to husband about this thread and I asked him his opinion on the question in the OP. He said that out of everyone in the whole wide world I was lucky enough to find you. I thought that was quite sweet.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    I came home from a weekend to find himself had set both fires, ready to be lit. That's love.
    He knew I'd be tired and cold and that I love a lighting fire. So he made sure all I had to do was put a match to it.

    Simple little gestures that show that he thinks of me. He's not great with words but I never doubt his feelings because he shows love in so many other ways.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    For me, it's just being in a moment with someone, and knowing that, right in that moment, nothing else matters outside of the two of you. It's when that person looks at you, and you know that they couldn't look at someone else in that exact same way. It's when you'd very happily do pretty much anything to put a smile on their face - but you know you don't even need to, because it's the tiny things that count, often it's just being there. It's the little winks and touches and smiles, no matter where you are and who's there. It's when the practical stuff just doesn't matter, common sense doesn't matter, you just want to be with that person. It's when they are the person that you want there for the happy stuff, and when that person also wants to be there with you for the sad stuff. It's just a feeling, a connection between the two of you that's special and unique to just the two of you. Words and actions aren't important - you can't influence love, you can't make it happen - it's just there. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭Daisy78


    No idea. Never experienced it, so can't say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Ilyana


    When you're willing to move mountains to stay with them, even if the odds are against you.

    If you'd drop anything to be by their side if they needed you.

    Knowing they'd do the above for you.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    shrewd wrote: »
    For me, i believe Love can be defined as a condition in which the welfare and happiness of another become essential to your own.
    This, for me, or how it made me feel anyway. It was like a great acid trip :). Colours, sounds everything was suddenly brighter, more real, more experienced when experienced with them. Like a new state of awareness beyond my own kinda thing. How she made me feel was but the start of it, how she made me feel when I knew she was thinking and feeling the same. To nerdify it:) it was like they were a virtual reality extension of me. What made them happy/sad/etc transmitted to me and vice versa. T'was magical stuff and a new me and them was being born from it.

    That was the trippy in love part anyway. The real love part was when I realised that I just loved them, through thick and thin, it didn;t matter. The feeling of being part of a partnership, a whole, almost two halves of the same "you". Very ancient Greek :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Usually goes hand in hand with wanting to cuddle up & squeeze them so tight that you are one person. It knocks the air out of you.

    This. I haven't had the opportunity in a long long time.........


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 985 ✭✭✭Ellsbells


    I got some bad news yesterday and obviously was pretty stressed. My OH said we would get through it together and then when we were asleep last night (well he was and I was awake worrying), he turned around and put his hand in mine in his sleep. I knew then all would be ok. I love that he wanted to hold my hand in his sleep :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭Spangles


    beks101 wrote: »
    When you love somebody, you don't walk away. Even when it seems like the best/easiest/most logical/practical thing to do.

    beks101 This is so true.

    When the going gets tough, true love will prevail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭cloud_dancer


    Bubblefett wrote: »
    My grandfather loved my Granny- a real old fashioned, storybook, strong love. I always remember when he was going into hospital the day he died he grabbed one of the nursing home staff by the arm and made them swear they would take care of my Gran for him.
    He said the same to my mother moments before the end. She was the only thing on his mind when his time came. Even now I'm sure he still watches over her.

    This actually made me well up :o How beautiful. They are so lucky to have experienced a love so strong and lasting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,710 ✭✭✭shalalala


    To me love is missing the person when they are not around. I miss him at least once a day and I really look forward to just seeing him and even more so when we are going to spend quality time together.

    I love sharing everything with him. If I have had good or bad news he is the first person I tell and when I have had a bad day a hug from him makes it all feel so so so much better.

    I do anything I can to make his life easier. I make him lunch for work or help him find a class that he needs. Anything really.

    Also I spend a lot of my time wanting to jump my OHs bones... so damn attractive :)

    Last night we had an argument and we upset each other. He went to sleep on the couch. But we just couldn't do it. He came in to the bedroom and we ended up cuddling and falling asleep. I love him so much :)

    (but he can be a jerk!:D)

    Edit: Oh and when I see him in the street, most of the time I want to run to him and I have to contain myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭Ah_Yeah


    I'm not good at putting my own personal feelings into words, but the two quotes below sum up love best for me:

    “We are all a little weird and life is a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love.” ~ Dr. Seuss

    “Love is the condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own.” ~ Robert Heinlein

    And I do remember a quote, but I can't find it anywhere, but it goes something like "Love is seeing the imperfect person as perfect".

    That's love to me. My great love that I experienced, was definitely that kind of feeling. He enhanced my life, made me want to be a better version of the person I already was, made me feel secure and loved, and never tried to change me. I always wanted only his happiness, wanted to do anything that would make him happy even if there was nothing in it for me, and spending time with him was amazing, even if it was just reading the paper on a Sunday morning together.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭flossie


    I was talking to somebody about himself the other week and they asked if i was in love. I laughed and asked exactly what love is. Their response:

    "Love is when you feel you have found the missing piece of the jigsaw in your life".

    I thought it over, and it's true. For the first time in my life, despite us living on different continents, i truly feel complete. I feel he is my rock, my reason, my fun, my laughter, my lover. Despite not being together all that long, this is completely different to other relationships i have been in (including a 5.5 year one!). We are different, in that complementary way, and we make the effort to see this through.

    I know how much he means to me when i am considering moving to a different continent in a fairly remote place, to be with him. I miss him every day, to the point where i ache sometimes, in my chest.

    God, that just sounds ick, but it's true. Love is unique to each person, and as long as it makes you complete, it's right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 matrina2641


    I have been going over and over this exact thought for the past year.

    Was with my OH for 5.5 years, got together when i was in 6th year and he was mid 20s...controversy at the time of course but we just clicked so well. I fell in love with him so soon and it took me breaking up with him after 9 months for him to realise the same (he was talking to his mam and she was actually the one who suggested it)

    During our month apart, I had fun, I went out, met other boys, etc and eventually he came around and said he loved me etc. We got back together and were even closer and have been since. I went on a j1, went through college and a postgrad, getting into a career etc and we moved in together last year.

    But I just got more and more doubtful, not that I didnt love him, but that he didnt love me the way you are supposed to. It felt like I was always the one making plans or teaching new things or trying to remind him to be mindful. (if i look out for you 50% and you look out for me 50% we are both always looked after)

    Eventually, I got tired of trying so hard, I know he loves me. He does little things like makes tea when needed, lights the fire, gives hugs, reminds me to do things he knows Ill forget. And no one comforts me the way he does. We fit so well together in so many ways. And for years I literally did everything to make him happy. no price was too much, nothing was too much hassle, I would crave that smile and would do anything to see it!

    But I kept having doubts. How do I know this is what I want? Ive never known anything different. Would he have ever known he loved me if someone hadnt have told him. Will I always have to try this hard all the time? Is there someone out there who I will never ever doubt their love? Is there someone out there who I will never doubt my love for them? thinking, why should I bother with all this, if he doesnt care either way?

    Its been tearing me apart the past while so last week I called it a day. I couldnt go any further with so many doubts. It wasnt fair on him, he said he was waiting for me to be ready for marriage and I started to become nervous he would propose in case i would say yes and not mean it or say no and crush him. And I didnt want to get married not knowing if he really did love me and vice versa.

    For example, I used to ask constantly 'if i was gone would you miss me or would you care?' and I would genuinely mean the question. I dont think you are supposed to even think your OH wouldnt care.

    Now that its happened, it seems like neither of us feel that upset. Granted we have to live together until the end of the month but I am shocked at how after so long, it doesnt seem to bother us that much. I know deep down I am trying to not let it bother me because its one of the hardest decisions Ive ever had to make.

    But his reaction has shocked me. Its not that I want him to be upset, but his reaction has intensified my doubt that he truly ever loved me the way you are supposed to love someone.

    So I wish I knew what it was as well. Because I know I was truly, madly, deeply in love, but I think I slowly just started to cancel out my feelings because I was doubtful of his. Like a defense mechanism or something.

    Now I look at people getting married and I think 'really?? theres NO doubt there at all??' and now I think Ive turned into a giant love-a-phob!

    Sorry for the mindless rant, I just havent been able to express myself properly since it happened and this thread just cause some kind of emotional haemorrage.

    I dont think I know what love is exactly, but deep down I dont think that is what its supposed to be either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    Now that its happened, it seems like neither of us feel that upset. Granted we have to live together until the end of the month but I am shocked at how after so long, it doesnt seem to bother us that much.

    I don't think it's hit home for either of you yet as you're both still under the same roof, seeing each other and presumably talking to each other every day. When you move out, that's when it will become real to you.

    I think everyone's experience of love is different and I wouldn't discount what you had with this guy. But you are young and you shouldn't be bogged down in a relationship that's filled with doubt and uncertainty when you have your whole life ahead of you.

    I hope you're OK xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭shrewd


    I have been going over and over this exact thought for the past year.

    Was with my OH for 5.5 years, got together when i was in 6th year and he was mid 20s...controversy at the time of course but we just clicked so well. I fell in love with him so soon and it took me breaking up with him after 9 months for him to realise the same (he was talking to his mam and she was actually the one who suggested it)

    During our month apart, I had fun, I went out, met other boys, etc and eventually he came around and said he loved me etc. We got back together and were even closer and have been since. I went on a j1, went through college and a postgrad, getting into a career etc and we moved in together last year.

    But I just got more and more doubtful, not that I didnt love him, but that he didnt love me the way you are supposed to. It felt like I was always the one making plans or teaching new things or trying to remind him to be mindful. (if i look out for you 50% and you look out for me 50% we are both always looked after)

    Eventually, I got tired of trying so hard, I know he loves me. He does little things like makes tea when needed, lights the fire, gives hugs, reminds me to do things he knows Ill forget. And no one comforts me the way he does. We fit so well together in so many ways. And for years I literally did everything to make him happy. no price was too much, nothing was too much hassle, I would crave that smile and would do anything to see it!

    But I kept having doubts. How do I know this is what I want? Ive never known anything different. Would he have ever known he loved me if someone hadnt have told him. Will I always have to try this hard all the time? Is there someone out there who I will never ever doubt their love? Is there someone out there who I will never doubt my love for them? thinking, why should I bother with all this, if he doesnt care either way?

    Its been tearing me apart the past while so last week I called it a day. I couldnt go any further with so many doubts. It wasnt fair on him, he said he was waiting for me to be ready for marriage and I started to become nervous he would propose in case i would say yes and not mean it or say no and crush him. And I didnt want to get married not knowing if he really did love me and vice versa.

    For example, I used to ask constantly 'if i was gone would you miss me or would you care?' and I would genuinely mean the question. I dont think you are supposed to even think your OH wouldnt care.

    Now that its happened, it seems like neither of us feel that upset. Granted we have to live together until the end of the month but I am shocked at how after so long, it doesnt seem to bother us that much. I know deep down I am trying to not let it bother me because its one of the hardest decisions Ive ever had to make.

    But his reaction has shocked me. Its not that I want him to be upset, but his reaction has intensified my doubt that he truly ever loved me the way you are supposed to love someone.

    So I wish I knew what it was as well. Because I know I was truly, madly, deeply in love, but I think I slowly just started to cancel out my feelings because I was doubtful of his. Like a defense mechanism or something.

    Now I look at people getting married and I think 'really?? theres NO doubt there at all??' and now I think Ive turned into a giant love-a-phob!

    Sorry for the mindless rant, I just havent been able to express myself properly since it happened and this thread just cause some kind of emotional haemorrage.

    I dont think I know what love is exactly, but deep down I dont think that is what its supposed to be either.

    Wow, i feel like i'm seeing into my future after reading this.
    Note to self: must take girlfriend seriously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,127 ✭✭✭Linguo


    It's love when you know you can't live without eachother and you'd do whatever it takes for that love and you can feel it!

    There's a million ways we both show our love, from big things to little things and they're all hugely important but it's that fire and intensity of love that's so special and unique that makes you know this is it! We're together 10 years next summer and it gets better every single year, it's just magical


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Catari Jaguar


    Love is when no matter how hurt you are, the moment you see that they are hurting too, you just forget about yourself and would do anything to take their pain away, because it breaks your heart and churns your stomach to see them suffering.

    That is for all types of love across the board - of family, friends, partners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    Love is when you are at your happiest and most content in that other person's company. It's that feeling of completeness when they're with you and being so excited for when you'll be with them again when they're not around.

    It's taking on whatever crap is going on in their lives and helping them in whatever way you can- because when you love someone their crap becomes your crap.

    I always think of that scene in Sex and the City in the last episode when Miranda is bathing Steve's mother (her mother-in-law, suffering from memory issues, perhaps alzheimer's), and Magda (the housekeeper) looks in the bathroom and said "That is love. You love."

    (I would say though, that you should only take on someone else's crap if they'd be willing to do the same- love should go both ways, always.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭Tigger99


    When you feel like their very presence makes your day better, you have an overwhelming urge to protect them from harm, when you are sitting beside them in the cinema and you have to resist the urge to propose to them there and then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭mashedbanana


    As 'auld Tina Turner herself said.... 'what's love gotta do with it? What's love but a second hand emotion'

    (even though I'm a die hard romatic behind it all)

    It's all very relative to the relationship. I agree with the poster who said to have a 'drunkin chat with yourself' and ask yourself straight out (while drunk) are you happy in this relationship? and if there is even a glimmer of happiness, then zone in on that, and really try to make it work....PROVIDING your other half is also making the effort.

    On the other hand..no one is a mind reader. So please do let your other half know if you are having doubt, and (at least)give them the opportunity to try to make things right. Every relationship goes through a lull. Don't be harsh, give it one good shot :-)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 42 syjg18


    Love is just our imagination.


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