Heineken & Amlin Cup 2012/13 General Discussion

Fishooks12

Glasgow Warriors

That Toulouse 12 looks some prospect

bilston

Castre

Fishooks12 wrote: »

That Toulouse 12 looks some prospect

They singled him out on the rugby club on Thursday night. Looks very special.

irishbucsfan

Munster

Youngs pinged for a dodgy clear out on Botha. I thought it was harsh, he was on his feet when he made contact and then went down, a lot of refs are happy with that.

Toulouse were rewarded for some good play though.

Fishooks12

Glasgow Warriors

Toulouse showing how to shut down the very limited Manu Tulaigi here

irishbucsfan

Munster

Ben Youngs just gave away a sure 3 points with a stupid tap penalty. Such a liability.

Fishooks12

Glasgow Warriors

What the hell was Ben Youngs at there? Hope to god that the infinitely better Danny Care takes over for England so his name isn't even breathed in relation to a Lions spot

irishbucsfan

Munster

That was not a knock on, came off his head. Harsh penalty.

Toulouse could run away with this now.

irishbucsfan

Munster

Don't think that one went forward either! Leicester fans won't be happy. They look clueless when in possession... Need some game management, bring on Ford and make it interesting!

Edit: then a Ben Youngs knock on! Leicester have to make a change here or it's game over

irishbucsfan

Munster

Youngs is having an absolute nightmare. Himself and Conor Murray showing the importance of having a sharp head on a 9s shoulders this weekend

Fishooks12

Glasgow Warriors

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Youngs is having an absolute nightmare. Himself and Conor Murray showing the importance of having a sharp head on a 9s shoulders this weekend

I was just about to compare the two!

cgpg5

Clermont Auvergne

Fishooks12 wrote: »

What the hell was Ben Youngs at there? Hope to god that the infinitely better Danny Care takes over for England so his name isn't even breathed in relation to a Lions spot

Simpson from Wasps is better than Youngs too, having a great season

cgpg5

Clermont Auvergne

Fickou is only 18, incredible!

What a prospect

Anatidaephobia

Castre

Beautiful from Smith.

bilston

Castre

Anatidaephobia wrote: »

Beautiful from Smith.

Lovely dink from Fickou in the build up though.

irishbucsfan

Munster

It's hard to believe Youngs and Flood are internationals. They are so incompetent. They've both cost Leicester this game when the rest of their side have been matching their opposite numbers.

They don't even suit the teams style of play. They need George Ford to emerge quickly.

irishbucsfan

Munster

Anatidaephobia wrote: »

Beautiful from Smith.

He recovered well but his positioning in the build up created the opportunity for Toulouse. Just on the pitch though in fairness to him.

Deano7788

For anyone that was watching the Sale match, how good was Cipriani when he came on. Sky are doing some Lions index and have ranked Cipriani as the best British outhalf so far. Was he actually that good in less than half a match?

Fishooks12

Glasgow Warriors

Deano7788 wrote: »

For anyone that was watching the Sale match, how good was Cipriani when he came on. Sky are doing some Lions index and have ranked Cipriani as the best British outhalf so far. Was he actually that good in less than half a match?

Scored a try and set up another

That Lions index thing is inherently flawed because it includes players that haven't a hope in hell of being near the plane (Nick Easter for example)

Deano7788

Toulon beating Montpellier 18-3 halftime with 2 tries from Gunther and Botha

errlloyd

Munster

Hard to believe only 2/7 rabo teams won against non rabo opposition this weekend, Leinster and Ulster.

On the flip side, 4/6 premiership teams won against foreign opposition, Saracens, Harlequins, Sale, Northampton

And a 3/5 French teams

Racing, Toulose, Clermont

I think last seasons Rabo dominance is probably over, I am really struggling to work out what caused it? Do you think maybe English and French powerhouse teams were struggling at this stage of the season because of the world cup taking their good players, and that's why last season they gave less of a crap about the H/Cup than otherwise?

Deano7788

Well then, clearly the qualification methods and league structure of the Aviva and Top 14 are unfair and we should demand they are restructured to suit us!!!

Quint2010

Munster

Fishooks12 wrote: »

That Toulouse 12 looks some prospect

bilston wrote: »

They singled him out on the rugby club on Thursday night. Looks very special.

Gael Fickou. He played on the France U18 team beaten in the semi finals by Ireland at this years U18 Schools tournament in April.

ormond lad

Ulster

errlloyd wrote: »

Hard to believe only 2/7 rabo teams won against non rabo opposition this weekend, Leinster and Ulster.

On the flip side, 4/6 premiership teams won against foreign opposition, Saracens, Harlequins, Sale, Northampton

And a 3/5 French teams

Racing, Toulose, Clermont

I think last seasons Rabo dominance is probably over, I am really struggling to work out what caused it? Do you think maybe English and French powerhouse teams were struggling at this stage of the season because of the world cup taking their good players, and that's why last season they gave less of a crap about the H/Cup than otherwise?

Dont think last seasons dominance is over. Its only week 1 so you cant really compare things to last season yet. World Cup was as much an issue for rabo sides

Quint2010 wrote: »

Gael Fickou. He played on the France U18 team beaten in the semi finals by Ireland at this years U18 tournament in April.

FYP. Only ireland differentiate between clubs and schools players. english differentiate players for national u18 side between players in professional academies from 16yrs of age and those who dont enter academies at that age and every other country doesnt differentiate between players like in Ireland

Deano7788

Toulon win 37-16 to get the bonus point. D Armitage got 2 tries and Bastareaud 1 in the 2nd half while Gorgodze got a consolation try for Montpellier.

Quint2010

Munster

ormond lad wrote: »

FYP. Only ireland differentiate between clubs and schools players. english differentiate players for national u18 side between players in professional academies from 16yrs of age and those who dont enter academies at that age and every other country doesnt differentiate between players like in Ireland

Do you think this is the reason U18 talent is not brought thru as quick in this country?

cgpg5

Clermont Auvergne

Deano7788 wrote: »

Toulon win 37-16 to get the bonus point. D Armitrage got 2 tries and Bastareaud 1 in the 2nd half while Gorgodze got a consolation try for Montpellier.

With such a p1ss easy group I think Toulon will qualify with highest points and be seeded 1 for quarters, Quins 2nd. Toulon team to beat imo

cgpg5

Clermont Auvergne

Deano7788 wrote: »

Toulon win 37-16 to get the bonus point. D Armitrage got 2 tries and Bastareaud 1 in the 2nd half while Gorgodze got a consolation try for Montpellier.

Gee England really have some options at FB. Problem is Delon has nothing between the ears though

CIARAN_BOYLE

Munster

Quint2010 wrote: »

Do you think this is the reason U18 talent is not brought thru as quick in this country?

I think its more the ccase that we don't have professional academys taking players in at U16 level

sock puppet

ormond lad wrote: »

Dont think last seasons dominance is over. Its only week 1 so you cant really compare things to last season yet. World Cup was as much an issue for rabo sides

Well it's probably safe to assume Edinburgh won't be repeating last year's performance.

Tox56

sock puppet wrote: »

Well it's probably safe to assume Edinburgh won't be repeating last year's performance.

But then again the likes of the Ospreys could make it that far, and Scarlets would have had a decent chance if they weren't in such a horrendous group. Edinburgh's result last year was a fluke