Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

Dots1982

Anyone listen to the tommy byrne interview? Ger done a decent job with it. It is one of the most intriguing "what ifs" in modern sport.

I hope he does more media, would love to see him on Top Gear, the grand tour, co-commentary on the F1. In the words of Stephen Toast he has fantastic charismeyyy.

Ursus Horribilis

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Dunne did pundit work for RTE during the Olympics back in August.

I suppose Andy Lee is more current, still an active pro and has recently held a world title.

He's also easier on the ear than Bernard Dunne

siblers

Was the crappy quiz on last night? If not, any mention of when it is to be on? They mentioned last week they were doing an end of year special for the quiz

Ursus Horribilis

The crappy quiz should never be on the air. It's the worst thing about OTB and they should've scrapped it along with Woolly.

delaney001

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

The crappy quiz should never be on the air. It's the worst thing about OTB and they should've scrapped it along with Woolly.

The irritatingly loud buzzer is the worst part of it!

Ursus Horribilis

delaney001 wrote: »

The irritatingly loud buzzer is the worst part of it!

Don't be calling Woolly names

PeterTheNinth

bahhh, forgot about the paper review.. Doesn't sound like missed much tbh..

With this whole thing going on with Brailsford and Bradley Wigguns tomorrow, TODAY is the day to have Kimmage in studio... It would have been brilliant. I presume he's no longer allowed now that he is permanently in TodayFM, which is hugely disappointing

PeterTheNinth

Well, what did ye all make of the interview with David Walsh.. It was great radio, but Joe and Ger were only short of tying him to a chair and beating him with a rubber hose.

I thought Walsh was fair enough. He was obviously a bit naive when he went in with Sky. He couldn't win really. They were always going to hide whatever they were doing from him, and there was no way that he could have been with all the cyclists 24 hours a day watching what they ingested or injected.

Great radio though.

pc7

I thought the lads were a bit OTT to be honest, but find the whole area very interesting.

Mantis Toboggan

Where did cian Muttagh go?

Tell me how

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Where did cian Muttagh go?

BBC Northern Ireland apparently.

Start of November

BPKS

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Well, what did ye all make of the interview with David Walsh.. It was great radio, but Joe and Ger were only short of tying him to a chair and beating him with a rubber hose.

I thought Walsh was fair enough. He was obviously a bit naive when he went in with Sky. He couldn't win really. They were always going to hide whatever they were doing from him, and there was no way that he could have been with all the cyclists 24 hours a day watching what they ingested or injected.

Great radio though.

Joe and Ger were in full audition mode for 'greatest sports interview of the year'. I didnt like their tone.

Joe said something along the lines of 'I feel a bit bad taking you to task as I'll probably never do half of what you already have done in sports journalism'. At least he got that spot on.

Walsh made a good point that he could have sat on the fence (like a lot of the fellas on Off the Ball do) and not penned the piece 'I believe in Chris Froome'.

Imhof Tank

I think what really irks OTB and Kimmage is the implication of megabucks for DW from the Sky gig/ Froome book.

So naïve

padd b1975

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Where did cian Muttagh go?

The new Jackie Fullerton!!

padd b1975

Dots1982 wrote: »

Anyone listen to the tommy byrne interview? Ger done a decent job with it. It is one of the most intriguing "what ifs" in modern sport.

I hope he does more media, would love to see him on Top Gear, the grand tour, co-commentary on the F1. In the words of Stephen Toast he has fantastic charismeyyy.

Good interview.

It was easy to see why he never fulfilled his potential though, his abrasive personality was never going to do him any favours in a sport where the ability to get sponsorship regularly trumps driving skill.

dr.kenneth noisewater

thought they were overly harsh on Walsh, think they've been listening to Kimmage too much.

PeterTheNinth

Hey people.. Very interesting interview with Kimmage by Dunphy on his podcast The Stand from 20th December 2016. Kimmage is just an amazing guy to listen to. And this time the bad language is kept in!!! enjoy!

Episode 8 is an interview about his own career.
Episode 9 is an interview about Lance and David Walsh.

The Stand with Eamon Dunphy by The Stand on iTunes

OldMrBrennan83

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Dirty Dingus McGee

Why is there such an obsession with Paul Kimmage in the Irish media.

He ruined Eoghan McDevitt's TV show on Setanta which was excellent before he was given a major role on it and it was cancelled fairly soon after he was given a major role on it which I don't think is a coincidence.

Sport is supposed to be a fun part of life and fairly light hearted yet Kimmage sucks the life out of anything I've heard him on.

Sport isn't all that serious yet I think there seems to be an obsession with some journalists making it as serious as they possible can to give themselves more credibility as hard hitting journalists.

I understand Kimmage has done a lot of good but I find him downright boring to listen to for extended periods and as soon as I hear his name linked with anything I change channel.

Lady Chatterton

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Sport is supposed to be a fun part of life and fairly light hearted yet Kimmage sucks the life out of anything I've heard him on.

Sport isn't all that serious yet I think there seems to be an obsession with some journalists making it as serious as they possible can to give themselves more credibility as hard hitting journalists.

I understand Kimmage has done a lot of good but I find him downright boring to listen to for extended periods and as soon as I hear his name linked with anything I change channel.

Sports followers/fans deserve to know the truth about the particular sport they invest their hard earned money, time and emotions in.

There are enough hacks out there who are nothing more than cheerleaders for the sport they report on, Kimmage says it as he sees it, even when it's unpopular. I don't always agree with him but he has liathroidi.

enzo roco

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Why is there such an obsession with Paul Kimmage in the Irish media.

Entertainment.
He is always so interesting, and doesnt do bullsht

OldMrBrennan83

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enzo roco

Patww79 wrote: »

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Yes, listen to him on today fm.
And when ever he does the paper review on newtalk, he talks about many sports

Swiper the fox

Patww79 wrote: »

Does he cover anything other than cycling though?

Yes, yes he does.

Brilliant writer, great speaker, cuts through the bull****, always entertaining.

I wouldn't want to go for a pint with him.

OldMrBrennan83

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Dirty Dingus McGee

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Sports followers/fans deserve to know the truth about the particular sport they invest their hard earned money, time and emotions in.

There are enough hacks out there who are nothing more than cheerleaders for the sport they report on, Kimmage says it as he sees it, even when it's unpopular. I don't always agree with him but has liathroidi.

The truth is sadly that all his hard work has probably achieved nothing really.What is and is not a performance enhancing drug is so arbitrary and changes with time that it makes the whole exercise of stopping their use pointless.

I'd say every major sport has some degree of a drug problem and I honestly don't think the majority of fans mind.

You ask fans to sacrifice their entertainment for a more honest sport and I'm pretty confident of what the answer would be.

Lady Chatterton

Patww79 wrote: »

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It's worth listening to him on the Last Word's Review of the Sports year.

http://www.todayfm.com/player/listen_back/7/34339/19th_December_2016_-_The_Last_Word_with_Matt_Cooper_Part_3

Paul isn't a one trick pony, he is well informed about lots of sports and he can be very funny at times. During the review, he talked about spending a day with the Olympic Rower, Sínéad Lynch and her efforts to reach the Olympics, changing from rowing to cycling and back to rowing etc. which I found interesting.

Lady Chatterton

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

The truth is sadly that all his hard work has probably achieved nothing really.What is and is not a performance enhancing drug is so arbitrary and changes with time that it makes the whole exercise of stopping their use pointless.

I'd say every major sport has some degree of a drug problem and I honestly don't think the majority of fans mind.

You ask fans to sacrifice their entertainment for a more honest sport and I'm pretty confident of what the answer would be.

Say that to Rob Heffernan (and his supporters)

He had to wait four years to receive his London 2012 Bronze Olympic medal.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Say that to Rob Heffernan (and his supporters)

He had to wait four years to receive his London 2012 Bronze Olympic medal.

Fair enough, but that's not a major sport based on providing entertainment.

You ask fans of the major sports leagues around the world to sacrifice their entertainment for more honesty and I don't think they would want to.

The Talking Bread

Dirty Dingus McGee wrote: »

Fair enough, but that's not a major sport based on providing entertainment.

You ask fans of the major sports leagues around the world to sacrifice their entertainment for more honesty and I don't think they would want to.

Can you not have both???? I, for one, lose more interest in or don't get the same entertainment from a sport where it is marred by doubts of drugs and an unlevel playing field etc.

You start to doubt the achievements of certain athletes, innocent or not. I mean look at the reaction to a lot of the swimmers, even Mo Farah and a lot more athletes at the Olympics. Compared to 2012, their was much less hysteria surrounding certain events and performances due to speculation about doping.