ESB to create new fibre powered ISP

Davy · 19-10-2013 11:38am

padraig.od wrote: »

Has fibre strung up on poles been deployed anywhere else? What did BT do in the North? I assume there is very similar settlement patterns up there?

It has been done here already too on trial.

kaizersoze · 19-10-2013 11:44am

Davy wrote: »

It has been done here already too on trial.

Has it?

I know there was trial in Tuam a few years ago of internet over power cables (ie using the same cable for both) but didn't know about an ESB FTTH trial.

bealtine · 19-10-2013 12:12pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

Has it?

I know there was trial in Tuam a few years ago of internet over power cables (ie using the same cable for both) but didn't know about an ESB FTTH trial.

A number of fibre runs especially out West are clipped to poles

kaizersoze · 19-10-2013 12:44pm

bealtine wrote: »

A number of fibre runs especially out West are clipped to poles

Aye but FTTH?

bealtine · 19-10-2013 12:53pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

Aye but FTTH?

Why not? There's not a lot of difference between a run and a drop really, once clipping is shown to work it's only a small thing to do the drop somewhere:)

kaizersoze · 19-10-2013 12:56pm

bealtine wrote: »

Why not? There's not a lot of difference between a run and a drop really, once clipping is shown to work it's only a small thing to do the drop somewhere:)

Oh yeah, I know the mechanics of it all right. Just wondering about the trial Davy mentioned.

Mesut Ozil · 19-10-2013 12:59pm

I can't believe a tornado as an example of storms in Ireland. :rolleyes:

When the power goes out, it usually because of trees falling down on powerlines. Round objects have a certain amount of wind resistance, the curvature of a pole guides the wind around it, unlike a billboard sign, which catches a lot of wind and need to be heavily supported.

The employees of ESB know more about physics than the Average Joe on Boards.ie, so this is a non-issue.

I know the West is stormier than Meath, but it's worth mentioning that we haven't had a blackout due to a storm since the mid-nineties or early-nineties.

kaizersoze · 19-10-2013 1:06pm

Good man.

Mesut Ozil wrote: »

I can't believe a tornado as an example of storms in Ireland. :rolleyes:

When the power goes out, it usually because of trees falling down on powerlines. Round objects have a certain amount of wind resistance, the curvature of a pole guides the wind around it, unlike a billboard sign, which catches a lot of wind and need to be heavily supported.

The employees of ESB know more about physics than the Average Joe on Boards.ie, so this is a non-issue.

I know the West is stormier than Meath, but it's worth mentioning that we haven't had a blackout due to a storm since the mid-nineties or early-nineties.

Cantona's Collars · 19-10-2013 1:24pm

ESB poles are buried 7 feet in the ground and don't simply fall over due to wind.Trust me,I put up enough of the bloody things.I'd have more faith in ESB clipping fibre to a pole than Eircom.

I personally saw some of the quality work done by Eircom in rural areas with cables simply laying in ditches or poles tied to tree limbs with rope.

I'm benefitting from the fibre rollout due being in an urban area while my friends & relatives are stuck with virtually nothing due to living in the country.If the ESB get this right,the whole country will benefit.

Davy · 19-10-2013 1:45pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

Has it?

I know there was trial in Tuam a few years ago of internet over power cables (ie using the same cable for both) but didn't know about an ESB FTTH trial.

Their has been an active trial ye to homes. Plenty of fibre up on poles but I only think their was one actually connected to homes afaik

Gipo3 · 19-10-2013 1:53pm

kaizersoze wrote: »

What happens when we get a bit of a storm with poles and lines down all over the place?

We can be thankful it won't be Eircom fixing them.

red_bairn · 19-10-2013 2:48pm

gadgetman496 wrote: »

You would if your lappy had a 12 cell battery

You would be able to access the internet if you had a 12 cell battery!? Jaysus that is one amazing battery to power the modem too.

Gadgetman496 · 19-10-2013 2:51pm

red_bairn wrote: »

You would be able to access the internet if you had a 12 cell battery!? Jaysus that is one amazing battery to power the modem too.

Incorrect I have an ALDI Gen

red_bairn · 19-10-2013 4:00pm

gadgetman496 wrote: »

Incorrect I have an ALDI Gen

That's nice to know! But what about the downed fibre cables (if you were on the ESB network).

Gadgetman496 · 19-10-2013 4:04pm

red_bairn wrote: »

That's nice to know! But what about the downed fibre cables (if you were on the ESB network).

Won't be on ESB network so not an issue.

yfaykya · 20-10-2013 8:15am

Can anyone comment on time frames here? Could we expect a commercial offering by end of 2014 say?

ClonNGB · 20-10-2013 1:46pm

according to this

http://www.uswitch.ie/broadband/news/2013/07/22/esb-pursue-partnerships-for-new-super-fast-fibre-broadband-network/

"work is expected to start in the first quarter of 2014."

Even if it was available first half of 2014 I would be very happy to have the choice. It seems it is the best we can hope for in areas without UPC.

I imagine if Vodafone have partnered up with the ESB it would be in their interest to go as as fast as possible in a land grab before Eircom finally gets the efibre everywhere.

bk · 21-10-2013 9:31am

ClonNGB wrote: »

I imagine if Vodafone have partnered up with the ESB it would be in their interest to go as as fast as possible in a land grab before Eircom finally gets the efibre everywhere.

Eircom will have eFibre everywhere before this even starts to rollout and even when it does rollout, it will take much longer to rollout then VDSL as doing FTTH is tricky and labour intensive.

Hopefully that doesn't stop the ESB, as they can compete with Eircoms eFibre by offering much faster speeds.

ElNino · 24-10-2013 5:15pm

I just saw KN Networks and Secto laying fibre on power cables over the Clareabbey roundabout in Ennis.

ClonNGB · 24-10-2013 6:09pm

That would fit in with their announcement in june. 3 year project

http://secto.ie/index.php/79-secto-news/89-esbt-june-2013

1Unknown · 25-10-2013 11:25am

Trials tests will be in Cavan area.
Will sart in December 2013 up to the 1st Qter of 2014
Fibre will run thru LV/MV poles and underground network.

AlmightyCushion · 25-10-2013 11:55am

1Unknown wrote: »

Trials tests will be in Cavan area.
Will sart in December 2013 up to the 1st Qter of 2014
Fibre will run thru LV/MV poles and underground network.

Nice trio see it happen so soon. Hopefully they are quick and aggressive with the rollout.

padraig.od · 25-10-2013 12:32pm

1Unknown wrote: »

Trials tests will be in Cavan area.
Will sart in December 2013 up to the 1st Qter of 2014
Fibre will run thru LV/MV poles and underground network.

Fibre to the home?

..Brian.. · 25-10-2013 1:31pm

Will this be in rural areas as well? First ISP to get broadband to the countryside will clean up!

MrO · 25-10-2013 1:39pm

padraig.od wrote: »

Fibre to the home?

Yes FTTH

1Unknown · 25-10-2013 1:40pm

padraig.od wrote: »

Fibre to the home?

Yes it will be fibre to home, but because there isn't yet a final partner (ex Vdf/Meteor what ever), the final layout connections are not defined yet.

MrO · 25-10-2013 1:42pm

1Unknown wrote: »

Yes it will be fibre to home, but because there isn't yet a final partner (ex Vdf/Meteor what ever), the final layout connections are not defined yet.

What do you mean by final layout connections?

1Unknown · 25-10-2013 1:51pm

MrO wrote: »

What do you mean by final layout connections?

mainly type of fibre connections/equipment to be used.

km79 · 25-10-2013 1:53pm

Apologies if asked already but will a phone line be needed

red_bairn · 25-10-2013 1:55pm

km79 wrote: »

Apologies if asked already but will a phone line be needed

No.

ESB to create new fibre powered ISP

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