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I agree, Gina Yashere and Sarah Millican are the only female stand-ups I've seen that I found funny. In terms of male stand-ups, I like Dara O' Briain, Neil Delamere, Alan Carr, Des Bishop, Michael McIntyre.
I do like The Simpsons though so not all girls hate it. I like Family Guy too but don't really like American Dad.
I also find the lolcats funny.
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I like the Simpsons, never a huge fan of Family Guy, never liked Sex in the City, never got the whole Friends gig, either...so much for the gender generalisations.
TBH, I don't really rate comedy according to a particular comedian/comedienne either, for me it can totally depend on the medium. Even live, some gigs I've found hilarious and others awful from the same person so it's not like once funny, always funny. My favourite in terms of % belly laughs to stage minutes would probably have to be Billy Connolly - but even then I've found some routines much better than others and most of his best stuff is decades old now...same goes for female comediennes - loved Gina Yashere on that panel show, thought she was completely unfunny live in stand up...same for Dylan Moran - loved Black Books, hated the whole carefully orchestrated drunken bumbling routine in stand up...give me Bill Bailey or Eddie Izzard live any day.0 -
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Ickle Magoo wrote: »I like the Simpsons, never a huge fan of Family Guy, never liked Sex in the City, never got the whole Friends gig, either...so much for the gender generalisations.
TBH, I don't really rate comedy according to a particular comedian/comedienne either, for me it can totally depend on the medium. Even live, some gigs I've found hilarious and others awful from the same person so it's not like once funny, always funny. My favourite in terms of % belly laughs to stage minutes would probably have to be Billy Connolly - but even then I've found some routines much better than others and most of his best stuff is decades old now...same goes for female comediennes - loved Gina Yashere on that panel show, thought she was completely unfunny live in stand up...same for Dylan Moran - loved Black Books, hated the whole carefully orchestrated drunken bumbling routine in stand up...give me Bill Bailey or Eddie Izzard live any day.
A lot of comedians excel on panel shows but suck at standup, take Frankie Boyle, he was the highlight of Mock The Week but his standup is just being being a mean spirited prick,its grand in small doses and acerbic oneliners but it got boring after an hour of it.
Eddie Izzard I never liked when I was younger but I love him now, his rambling but pitch perfect routines are fantastic. I still can't hear a cat purring without having his "they're under the couch digging for gold" line pop into my head :pac:0 -
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I know a lot of women who never liked The Simpsons for example. I don't know any guys that don't like it, I'm sure there's some who don't but maybe not as many.
Does anyone at all enjoy The Simpsons past series 9-11?
It used to be a fantastic show, crude with a lot of slapstick, yes, but it also oozed wit and intelligence. But it really lost the run of itself around the decade mark and became witless and nonsensical while overly reliant on guest appearances. Not that, that's unusual it's very hard for a show to run for such a long time and remain fresh. It's why a lot of the great classic comedies actually had very short runs, if they'd continued on into hundreds of episodes the format would have lost it's way completely. South Park occasionally pulls it off as while a lot of their later series aren't great, occasionally they still put out a gem of an episode.
Friends had a few good years but it was a comedy with a lot of soapy/dramatic elements, so wasn't just about the laughs. It was one of the first comedies to do this (Cheers also did to a lesser extent) so part of it's popularity had to do with the fact that it's format fresh. By series 5 the characters had become caricatures of themselves and certain drama aspects were being dragged out way too much (like the Ross/Rachel will they/won't they crap). But quite a few more recent comedies owe a lot to Friends as that show did change the way the US networks were willing to accept comedic set-ups.
The best comedy on television at that point, imo, was Frasier. They were able to pull off some fantastic high farce and they did it extremely well. And the dialogue was brilliantly witty. It also went downhill by the end of it's run but not as drastically as many shows that ran for a lot less than 11 years.
I'm not wild on any stand up comediennes that I've seen. As has been said they can be great on panel/sketch shows but not many have great routines. Sarah Silverman, for example, irritates the hell out of me in her stand up routines but watching the 'I'm Fúcking Matt Damon' video in context always makes me chuckle. I love many of Tina Fey's SNL sketches and 30 Rock is very funny, especially the earlier seasons. But any of her movies that I've seen have been dross.
Personally I often find non-comedies can be funnier than a lot of comedies. Shows like Buffy, Freaks and Geeks and Chuck weren't straight up comedies but they could be hilarious at times. And my favourite comedies are ones who don't shy away from crude jokes, farcical elements or even outright nastiness but which also have intelligence and wit at their core.0 -
Does anyone at all enjoy The Simpsons past series 9-11? It used to be a fantastic show, crude with a lot of slapstick, yes, but it also oozed wit and intelligence. But it really lost the run of itself around the decade mark and became witless and nonsensical while overly reliant on guest appearances. Not that, that's unusual it's very hard for a show to run for such a long time and remain fresh. It's why a lot of the great classic comedies actually had very short runs, if they'd continued on into hundreds of episodes the format would have lost it's way completely. South Park occasionally pulls it off as while a lot of their later series aren't great, occasionally they still put out a gem of an episode.
Friends had a few good years but it was a comedy with a lot of soapy/dramatic elements, so wasn't just about the laughs. It was one of the first comedies to do this (Cheers also did to a lesser extent) so part of it's popularity had to do with the fact that it's format fresh. By series 5 the characters had become caricatures of themselves and certain drama aspects were being dragged out way too much (like the Ross/Rachel will they/won't they crap). But quite a few more recent comedies owe a lot to Friends as that show did change the way the US networks were willing to accept comedic set-ups.
The best comedy on television at that point, imo, was Frasier. They were able to pull off some fantastic high farce and they did it extremely well. And the dialogue was brilliantly witty. It also went downhill by the end of it's run but not as drastically as many shows that ran for a lot less than 11 years.
I never really liked Friends or Frasier. I know a lot of people who do. Friends has aged terribly, it seems so outdated now. An ex of mine watched 2 episodes every evening, it was painful. The Simpsons from Season 3 or 4 to 9 or 10 were excellent. The episode where it turned and started heading down hill was where Skinner was Tamzarian or whatever. A few laughs, not great, horrible storyline and then after that it went downhill. The golden era was when Conan O'Brien was on the writing staff. Homer Goes to College, Monorail etc. Smartest comedy every written imo. Deep Space Homer is amazing too.
South Park was terrible from season 1-4. Then it went through a great run. In the last 2 seasons it's been hit and miss though. I agree with you.
This thread may have run it's course though. I was just wondering the differences of humor, I knew it was subjective per person, not gender. I just always thought there was certain things that seemed gender specific.
Like in that episode of Futurama the three guys are acting like the three stooges and Fry is laughing. Lila say's that's not funny, now Sex and the City, THAT'S FUNNY!0 -
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