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186 / 187 Skilled Select (Permanent Nominated)

  • 14-09-2012 1:39am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭


    Hey everyone just wondering if anyone else has applied for the new Employer Nomination Scheme visas through Skill Select? If so how it is progressing? Or if you have already received it how long did it take? Was there any hiccups? Have you any advice etc.?

    I have been working for my company here in Australia for about 3 years now, a little over 2 of those years I have been on a sponsored temporary residence 457 visa. I asked my company if they would sponsor me for permanent residence and they said yes.

    They submitted the nomination under the old scheme (121/846 visas) just and the nomination was approved a couple of days before the deadline for the old visa system was to expire on July 1st .

    (I rushed my first visa application and ended up making a mistake and applying for the wrong type of visa this resulted in me eventually having to withdraw my application and start again under the new system.)

    As nominations are valid for 6 months from the time they are approved I could still apply under the same nomination.

    On the 24th of August I applied for The Employer Nominated Scheme subclass 186 visa through their online application which was really easy.

    I scanned in the following supporting documents and attached them to the application:

    Passport Identification page
    Birth Certificate
    Garda Certificate
    Degree
    Australian National Police Certificate

    On the 6th of September I received an e-mail with two letters attached one was Acknowledgement of valid application for a Employer Nomination (class EN) visa, the other was a Visa Application Summary.

    The letters told me that “We have begun to process your application. This letter confirms that your payment has been receipted and your application has been assessed as a valid application. A receipt for this payment is attached to this letter.”

    It also told me that a bridging visa A had been granted and that “Your application has not yet been allocated to a case officer.”

    The department say that the visa could take between 5 -7 months to process but I have heard that some people are getting them in about 50 days which I hope is more accurate. Anyone got one yet?

    As I am only at day 21 I have some time left to wait for it anyway.
    I will update this when I hear anything!


    (On a side note I was notified yesterday that I would be getting back my fee for the first visa application! Happy days!)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I'm currently looking at this visa myself. I just want a bit more security than the 457.
    The reason I'm looking at ENS over independent is because I'm in a tricky spot with skills assessment, I'm not sure if the assessing authority for my occupation will recognise my degree (its complicated). But under the ENS I can either bypass the skill assessment next year, or choose a similar occupation that's on the CSOL but not the SOL that I think I will be approved for easier.
    Doc wrote: »
    They submitted the nomination under the old scheme (121/846 visas) just and the nomination was approved a couple of days before the deadline for the old visa system was to expire on July 1st .

    (I rushed my first visa application and ended up making a mistake and applying for the wrong type of visa this resulted in me eventually having to withdraw my application and start again under the new system.)

    It's too late for you now, but I believe you could of lodged the nomination application and the visa application together.
    It also told me that a bridging visa A had been granted and that “Your application has not yet been allocated to a case officer.”

    What happens if it's refused? Do you revert to the 457?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    Mellor wrote: »
    I'm currently looking at this visa myself. I just want a bit more security than the 457.
    The reason I'm looking at ENS over independent is because I'm in a tricky spot with skills assessment, I'm not sure if the assessing authority for my occupation will recognise my degree (its complicated). But under the ENS I can either bypass the skill assessment next year, or choose a similar occupation that's on the CSOL but not the SOL that I think I will be approved for easier.

    Its a good one to go for if you have the 2 years alright It seems to be that they are making it very easy for people with jobs already secured here. But if your in a company that you don't want to stay in a year is a very long time...
    Mellor wrote: »
    It's too late for you now, but I believe you could of lodged the nomination application and the visa application together.

    I know but I didn't have the Garda or Australian police certificates at the time so I waited. I made a royal F up of it but thank God I am getting the money back for it now.
    Mellor wrote: »
    What happens if it's refused? Do you revert to the 457?

    As far as I know the bridging visa is grated even if you have loads of time left on your current 457 visa and only comes into affect when / if your 457 runs out during the processing of your new application. For instance if you only had 2 months left on your 457 and made an application for the 186 which they say takes 5 months, the bridging visa would come into affect once your 457 expires. If your application is unsuccessful your bridging visa will still be in effect for 28 days after the decision is made to allow you time to make another application or leave. If your application is refused and your 457 is still valid then you stay on your 457.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Doc wrote: »
    Its a good one to go for if you have the 2 years alright It seems to be that they are making it very easy for people with jobs already secured here. But if your in a company that you don't want to stay in a year is a very long time...
    I'm in the company, in the same role, for 2 years. But i'm only 15 months on a 457. The other 9 months was on a WHV and a bridging visa. The only difference is I'll have to do a skills assessment, I don't think it would be processed any faster.

    I've no issue staying in the company for a year. I'm just not certain that my job is secure. We're a small company and work has been slow. My industry is exceptionally volatile.


    As far as I know the bridging visa is grated even if you have loads of time left on your current 457 visa and only comes into affect when / if your 457 runs out during the processing of your new application. For instance if you only had 2 months left on your 457 and made an application for the 186 which they say takes 5 months, the bridging visa would come into affect once your 457 expires. If your application is unsuccessful your bridging visa will still be in effect for 28 days after the decision is made to allow you time to make another application or leave. If your application is refused and your 457 is still valid then you stay on your 457.

    I get that in relation to 457 visa expiring.
    I'm just thinking, what if I lodge a ENS application - granted a Bridging visa. What happens if my 457 status goes? Say if the company slows down and I'm let go. Can the ENS still be granted?

    Or would it be possible for the company to keep me on until the ENS is granted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    Mellor wrote: »
    I get that in relation to 457 visa expiring.
    I'm just thinking, what if I lodge a ENS application - granted a Bridging visa. What happens if my 457 status goes? Say if the company slows down and I'm let go. Can the ENS still be granted?

    Or would it be possible for the company to keep me on until the ENS is granted?

    No unfortunately not. But if the company keeps you on until the ENS is granted you should be fine. They have to intend to keep you on for 2 years after but if things change after the visa is grated then your visa is still valid.

    Same for you you have to intend to stay for two years but once its granted...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I figured as much due to the two year requirement for the position. I was just wondering if it was specifically covered in the rules.
    On the other hand, the company may delay telling immi about the situation if the ENS is close.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    My nomination was approved 17th August, application submitted 24th August. I haven't heard anything since, not even an acknowledgement letter yet. It would be great to get it within the 50 days but I'm expecting it to be longer.

    Looking at your checklist, I didn't scan my passport id page, as they had it anyway from the Nomination Stage. Do you think I need to send it again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    statina wrote: »
    My nomination was approved 17th August, application submitted 24th August. I haven't heard anything since, not even an acknowledgement letter yet. It would be great to get it within the 50 days but I'm expecting it to be longer.

    Looking at your checklist, I didn't scan my passport id page, as they had it anyway from the Nomination Stage. Do you think I need to send it again?

    Hey Statina,

    Did you submit your application online? Did you use an agent?
    I would send the passport ID page if I were you. It will do you no harm to submit it again particularly if you have done an online submission which means you only have to attach the document and takes no time to do. If they have to go looking for it it from you at a later date it will just make things take a bit longer. Your better off giving them all the information you can as soon as you can so they can just work through it all and not need to contact you for further information. Having said that it probably wont make any difference.

    It will be interesting to hear from you regarding any updates you get as we both seem to have submitted on the same date so should get the visas around the same time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    I submitted the application online. I didnt use an agent (half wishing I did now!). Yeah I'll scan the passport pages in, I presumed (clearly wrongly!) they already would have had it from the nomination stage.

    I wouldnt have the greatest patience in the world so Im finding this waiting game a headwrecker. I know Im in for a lengthy wait, yet cant seem to stop checking my emails daily for any news :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    statina wrote: »
    I submitted the application online. I didnt use an agent (half wishing I did now!). Yeah I'll scan the passport pages in, I presumed (clearly wrongly!) they already would have had it from the nomination stage.
    The case officier for the nomination stage and the application stage aren't always the same person. So its best to include documents like that in both stage so there's a copy in each file


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    statina wrote: »
    I wouldnt have the greatest patience in the world so Im finding this waiting game a headwrecker. I know Im in for a lengthy wait, yet cant seem to stop checking my emails daily for any news :o

    I'm exactly the same way which is why I started the Thread ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 AusPR?


    Hello all,

    I will be 2 years sponsored with my company in early Nov 2012, so I will be applying for permanent residency then. I am just a bit confused about the requirement to stay 2 years with the company. Say if I received permanent residency after 4 months waiting, would it be possible for me to change employer the day after i receive the PR or would I put the PR at risk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 AusPR?


    Hello All,

    Does anyone have an idea of what an agent would charge? Would it be something like $2000, $4000 or $10,000?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    AusPR? wrote: »
    Hello all,

    I will be 2 years sponsored with my company in early Nov 2012, so I will be applying for permanent residency then. I am just a bit confused about the requirement to stay 2 years with the company. Say if I received permanent residency after 4 months waiting, would it be possible for me to change employer the day after i receive the PR or would I put the PR at risk?
    Yes perfectly fine to leave, once you receive it, it is yours.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    AusPR? wrote: »
    Hello all,

    I will be 2 years sponsored with my company in early Nov 2012, so I will be applying for permanent residency then. I am just a bit confused about the requirement to stay 2 years with the company. Say if I received permanent residency after 4 months waiting, would it be possible for me to change employer the day after i receive the PR or would I put the PR at risk?
    There is no requirement to stay with the company any length of time. The two years is in relation to the role being suitable for nomination. It must be a permanent position of at least 2 years to qualify. But you don't have to stay.


    Also, you don't need to be there two years before you can apply, that just means you can skip a skills assessment.
    AusPR? wrote: »
    Hello All,

    Does anyone have an idea of what an agent would charge? Would it be something like $2000, $4000 or $10,000?

    About $3000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    I submitted my passport pages, thanks for the advice. Still havent received an acknowledgement letter, my nomination was approved at the same time as 3 other girls in work- they all received their acknowledgement letter 3 weeks ago. Rang up immigration today to see if they had any idea why, got a prick on the phone who basically told me to piss off(after 40 minutes on hold :mad:) So just gonna have to bide my time.

    Doc, have you applied for the Medicare card yet? The girls I work with got theirs based on their acknowledgement letter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    hussey wrote:
    Yes perfectly fine to leave, once you receive it, it is yours.
    Mellor wrote: »
    There is no requirement to stay with the company any length of time. The two years is in relation to the role being suitable for nomination. It must be a permanent position of at least 2 years to qualify. But you don't have to stay.


    This is not strictly true at the time of applying for the visa you must intend to stay for 2 years at the company which is nominating you. As you can see in this part of the application...

    221784.png

    If you are granted the visa and the next day quit your job you are going to have a hard time proving that you intended to stay for 2 years in the job and if immigration find out about it they may see it as a fraudulent application and could revoke your visa. It is unlikely to happen but if you are blatant about it or your company is pissed of and reports you to immigration it could. If however you wait a bit and then leave the job or a situation arises that means you have to leave your job after the visa is granted it shouldn't be a problem. The main thing is that you can prove that you intended to stay with the company for 2 years at the time of the application.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    statina wrote: »
    I submitted my passport pages, thanks for the advice. Still havent received an acknowledgement letter, my nomination was approved at the same time as 3 other girls in work- they all received their acknowledgement letter 3 weeks ago. Rang up immigration today to see if they had any idea why, got a prick on the phone who basically told me to piss off(after 40 minutes on hold :mad:) So just gonna have to bide my time.

    Doc, have you applied for the Medicare card yet? The girls I work with got theirs based on their acknowledgement letter.

    No I haven't applied for the Medicare card I should do that actually thanks for reminding me!

    I've had similar experience with ringing up all they say is it should take 5-6 months and that I would just have to wait to be contacted. Very frustrating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Doc wrote: »
    This is not strictly true at the time of applying for the visa you must intend to stay for 2 years at the company which is nominating you. As you can see in this part of the application...
    yeah, should of clarified that in my post.
    There's no requirement to stay but the position needs to be available for at least two years, and you intend to stay for that time.

    Obviously, you can change your intentions/plans in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 AusPR?


    Hi all,

    Regarding the part of the Application that the Employer must fill out, is this to be done by the employer online, or is it a written application that must be scanned and sent in to DIAC?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    AusPR? wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Regarding the part of the Application that the Employer must fill out, is this to be done by the employer online, or is it a written application that must be scanned and sent in to DIAC?
    Either. It can be online or on paper (sent by post or in person). Most, if not all, applications give you that choice


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    Received the acknowledgement letter today, 7 wks after applying. In the letter, it said the decision would be made within 5-7 months of the application been received. Our Irish and Oz police checks are up in January, anyone know if we'll have to get them redone or wil it be ok if they haven't looked at the application before then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    statina wrote: »
    Received the acknowledgement letter today, 7 wks after applying. In the letter, it said the decision would be made within 5-7 months of the application been received. Our Irish and Oz police checks are up in January, anyone know if we'll have to get them redone or wil it be ok if they haven't looked at the application before then?

    You shouldn't have to as long as they were valid at the time of application you should be fine.

    Bear in mind that the 5-7 months is only a guide and each case is assessed separably so the time scale differs from person to person and it may not take as long as that.

    Did your letter say if you had a visa application processing officer / case officer assigned? It should say on your VISA APPLICATION SUMMARY you would have got it with the acknowledgement letter. Mine said Your application has not yet been allocated to a case officer. If you have one allocated it could be quick.

    I've had my acknowledgement letter since the 6th of September and not heard anything since on it.

    But look on the bright side you have the bridging visa and the application is valid all you have to do is wait and you will be permanent! (This is what I keep telling myself but its not helping me either :( )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    No don't have a case officer yet. Yeah its just a matter of waiting now- I've taken the email alert off my phone so that's helped with not checking my e-mails daily!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 geogoann


    Doc wrote: »
    You shouldn't have to as long as they were valid at the time of application you should be fine.

    Bear in mind that the 5-7 months is only a guide and each case is assessed separably so the time scale differs from person to person and it may not take as long as that.

    Did your letter say if you had a visa application processing officer / case officer assigned? It should say on your VISA APPLICATION SUMMARY you would have got it with the acknowledgement letter. Mine said Your application has not yet been allocated to a case officer. If you have one allocated it could be quick.

    I've had my acknowledgement letter since the 6th of September and not heard anything since on it.

    But look on the bright side you have the bridging visa and the application is valid all you have to do is wait and you will be permanent! (This is what I keep telling myself but its not helping me either :( )

    I applied for a DR 186 both Nomination and application on the 23 rd Aug.
    I only got my acknowledgement last week(29/10/2012) - 10 weeks on.
    I was told by my migration that the visa will not be processed for another 2 months.
    has anyone has the same experience?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Aus457


    Hey,

    I have been on a 457 for 7 months now.

    I am looking at applying for the 186. Should I get skills assessment & then ask employer to nominate me or how does it all work?? How does employer nominate - I can't see anything online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 eoindoyle_syd


    Aus457 wrote: »
    Hey,
    I am looking at applying for the 186. Should I get skills assessment & then ask employer to nominate me or how does it all work?? How does employer nominate - I can't see anything online.

    Looks like that's your best way.

    1) Find the assessing authority for your occupation of your 457 on this form;
    http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule1-2.pdf

    2) Apply for skills assessment to relevant authority. It costs me about $700 but can vary I guess.

    3) If approved, apply for visa online:
    http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/visas/subclass-186/

    Most of the company info submitted under 457 will be needed again for 186. Sell it to your company by saying it removes their responsibility of having to pay for your flight home and removes their obligations.

    I submitted my Nomination (under old system) in Feb and took 8mths to come through (its likely you would be quicker).

    Good Luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Aus457


    Looks like that's your best way.

    1) Find the assessing authority for your occupation of your 457 on this form;
    http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule1-2.pdf

    2) Apply for skills assessment to relevant authority. It costs me about $700 but can vary I guess.

    3) If approved, apply for visa online:
    http://www.immi.gov.au/skills/skillselect/index/visas/subclass-186/

    Most of the company info submitted under 457 will be needed again for 186. Sell it to your company by saying it removes their responsibility of having to pay for your flight home and removes their obligations.

    I submitted my Nomination (under old system) in Feb and took 8mths to come through (its likely you would be quicker).

    Good Luck

    Thanks mate - much appreciated!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    Any update Doc?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    statina wrote: »
    Any update Doc?!

    Nope! No word yet and they wont even tell me if I have a case officer assigned. Very frustrated because a friend of mine offered me a job the week before last that would have been a $15,000 pay rise, but I couldn't take it as they needed someone with PR and mine hasn't come trough yet! :(

    I just have to keep waiting...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    In a similar position, got offered a class job recently but obviously couldnt take it cos am waiting for this visa to come through!

    After you get the visa, realistically how much time do you reckon you have to stay with your employer before you can quit so they dont accuse you of visa fraud!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    Its all about intention. If you can prove that at the time of application and grant of your new visa that you intended to stay at the company then there shouldn't be a problem. If however you were going for job interviews during the prepossessing time then it can be proven that you never intended to stay at the job and your visa could in a worse case scenario be revoked if for example your current employer got annoyed at you for leaving and complained to immigration.

    I cant say exactly how long you should stay but you have to be able to show that you intended to stay and that circumstances changed after your visa was grated making staying untenable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭amybabes


    I've asked this before on other threads some time ago - but is anyone skipping using a migration agent and doing it themselves?

    Background to my case:
    • Sponsored 2.5 years (same employer - bf's employer, i'm the defacto) -qualify to skip trade recognition
    • Still have all of our paperwork from sponsorship, just need to get updated irish police cert and get australian police cert
    Had a couple of recommendations for migration agents from a thread about 2 months ago but sent off emails outlining our case and requesting a quote or a call and never got any responses so figured they don't need the business - good indication of what they'll be like to deal with when you are paying them to lodge your application if you ask me! :rolleyes:

    Is it relatively easy to do it yourself? What about the company part? What are they required to provide and where can you get advice on what exactly is needed from them?

    Appreciate any responses/advice on people who are doing this/have recently done it. Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    I'm doing it myself as my company was unlikely to pay for an agent and there was no way I was paying for one. I found the application to be really easy to fill out as it is all online. You just follow the checklist that they provide thick the right boxes and you should have no problems. As I haven't had a decision yet myself I cant say its defiantly the best way to go but unless you are prepared to pay a lot of money on an agent I'd say its easy enough to do yourself.

    As the company has already sponsored it should have all the information it needs already just like you do so it should not be a problem for them either.

    The immigration website is very clear and easy to navigate and will provide you with exactly what you and your employer need to do and submit.

    The only benefit I can see of using a recognized agent is that you can lodge what is called a decision ready application. This basically means that the agent has said that everything is completed and correct for the case officer to just make a decision on the application. Decision ready applications are currently being processed before ordinary applications because there is such a backlog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 tntsawers


    Hi all,

    I put in for an ENS 186 visa on the 20th October. Nomination was submitted on the 10th October. Got the nomination acknowledgement back but still nothing from the visa. Very frustrating that we pay all that money and we don't even get a correspondence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    if you send a blank msg to the emailing centre,they will send an update with where theyre at with processing. I emailed thwm today and they said theyre as far as 22nd June for Parramatta Centre.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭amybabes


    Update - been quoted the following for transfer from 457 visa to employer nominated residency by the lawyer we used for our 457 (we are again footing the bill for all costs)

    $3060 - Visa application fee
    $540 - Nomination fee (company)
    $4500 + $450(GST) - Lawyer's fee for assistance with application
    Tota: $8,495


    Just sickening that i have all of the paperwork (bar updated gardai checks which i will get when im home for christmas in 3 weeks) so have almost a decision ready application. Need to decide what to do in next week or two but at this stage I am more swaying towards sucking it up and just paying it for one of the most important things we've ever done.

    Got 2 other quotes, 1 was the exact same, 1 was $7,500 but for the sake of a grand, I think I will just go with the lawyer we used the first time that the company we insisted we use as she knows the company etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    I'd strongly consider doing it yourself to be honest. The only major difference with using an agent is that you will get the visa quicker. You and the company will still have to gather up all the information.

    It is all online so you will be able to see exactly what you need for yours and the companies part. As far as I know, the companies part is simple enough-they have to prove they provide adequate training and are paying your partner above a certain threshold. Obviously there's more to it than that but those are the major parts.

    Is there any HR person in your partners company that can help you with this? Has the company put anybody else through the ENS before? Because there hasnt been that many changes since 1st July to the visa, just really that it's changed numbers from 856 to 186 and that everything is now online. You will also get great advice on pomsinoz.com and britishexpats, lots of people on them have done both parts themselves.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭jank


    amybabes wrote: »
    Update - been quoted the following for transfer from 457 visa to employer nominated residency by the lawyer we used for our 457 (we are again footing the bill for all costs)

    $3060 - Visa application fee
    $540 - Nomination fee (company)
    $4500 + $450(GST) - Lawyer's fee for assistance with application
    Tota: $8,495


    Just sickening that i have all of the paperwork (bar updated gardai checks which i will get when im home for christmas in 3 weeks) so have almost a decision ready application. Need to decide what to do in next week or two but at this stage I am more swaying towards sucking it up and just paying it for one of the most important things we've ever done.

    Got 2 other quotes, 1 was the exact same, 1 was $7,500 but for the sake of a grand, I think I will just go with the lawyer we used the first time that the company we insisted we use as she knows the company etc.

    5k to submit and application. Robbery tbh! Do it yourself and go off around Australia for a month or two with the money you saved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭amybabes


    statina wrote: »
    I'd strongly consider doing it yourself to be honest. The only major difference with using an agent is that you will get the visa quicker. You and the company will still have to gather up all the information.

    It is all online so you will be able to see exactly what you need for yours and the companies part. As far as I know, the companies part is simple enough-they have to prove they provide adequate training and are paying your partner above a certain threshold. Obviously there's more to it than that but those are the major parts.

    Is there any HR person in your partners company that can help you with this? Has the company put anybody else through the ENS before? Because there hasnt been that many changes since 1st July to the visa, just really that it's changed numbers from 856 to 186 and that everything is now online. You will also get great advice on pomsinoz.com and britishexpats, lots of people on them have done both parts themselves.

    To my knowledge they haven't - they're a small enough company, we were the second application for sponsorship they ever put through! That's my only concern - they don't have the resources like a HR dept, think there's 2 girls in the office that do everything!!

    I think I'm in the wrong business, should have become a migration agent! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    amybabes wrote: »
    To my knowledge they haven't - they're a small enough company, we were the second application for sponsorship they ever put through! That's my only concern - they don't have the resources like a HR dept, think there's 2 girls in the office that do everything!!

    I think I'm in the wrong business, should have become a migration agent! :rolleyes:

    If I was you I would explain to them the cost of employing the agent and say that you are willing to do all the work and that as they are already a registered sponsors (as they have sponsored you already for the 457) they don't have to provide very much additional information and that you are prepared to fill out all the paperwork for them just as the agent would and just have them sign where needed. Any reasonable employer will realise that you having to pay $5000 for something that you can do yourself in order for them to keep you is asking a lot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    Update from Processing Centre
    ALLOCATION TIMEFRAMES

    Pre 1 July 2012 Applications

    The network is currently allocating applications for assessment as below:
    Processing Centre
    ENS
    RSMS
    Parramatta
    28 June 2012
    15 May 2012
    Melbourne
    8 March 2012
    8 March 2012
    Perth
    21 June 2012
    27 March 2012


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭Doc


    statina wrote: »
    Update from Processing Centre
    ALLOCATION TIMEFRAMES

    Pre 1 July 2012 Applications

    The network is currently allocating applications for assessment as below:
    Processing Centre
    ENS
    RSMS
    Parramatta
    28 June 2012
    15 May 2012
    Melbourne
    8 March 2012
    8 March 2012
    Perth
    21 June 2012
    27 March 2012

    Dose this mean they are only processing applications received in Melbourne in March now???

    Because if that is what is happening then they are totally incompetent and under staffed. Am I meant to wait another half a year for a visa that is only meant to take 4-5 months to process?

    This sounds like bull**** to me as I had a case manager assigned to my last application after two months which I lodged the last work day before the changes came into effect. (June 28th)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    I hav'nt heard of anyone getting Non DRC visa post July 1st, have you? I know a good few who have got their visa in the last week, they would have applied just before the changes.

    Im estimating it will take another 3 months minimum :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭uglyjohn


    i thought it put in a quick note about my case here: going from 457 - Employer nominated PR (EN 186)

    i've been on a 457 for about 2 years, my visa application was submitted by my migration agent on the 19th of Nov. i got an acknowledged letter and bridging visa today (email forwarded on by migration agent).

    it says "your application has been assessed as a valid application" and not much else. it refers to a "visa application summary" but i cant find it. just a receipt of payment so i think my migration agent forgot to forward it on.

    i've emailed her asking about it.

    i'll update you guys when there is something to update with!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    Update from ENS processing centre
    Processing Centre
    ENS
    RSMS
    Parramatta
    All Cases Allocated
    13 June 2012
    Melbourne
    All Cases Allocated
    1 April 2012
    Perth
    29 June 2012
    26 April 2012


    Post 1 July 2012 electronically lodged Applications

    "Due to the large influx of applications in June 2012, our capacity to allocate post July 2012 electronic applications has been affected. Decision Ready applications are a priority. We are currently allocating e-lodged applications received July-August 2012"


    Hopefully it wont be too much longer for Post July Applications.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭rightyabe


    Would anyone here know if a company already sponsored workers on 457 visa how easy would it be for them to sponsor a person on a RSMS 187 visa. Apart from the RCB application that would be required would there be much more paperwork need on their part to prove stuff etc..

    Also on a 187 is a skills assessment required if the occupation is ANZCSO skill level 2?

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    Has anyone received good news regarding their application? Its now nearly 8 months since I submitted the application and I haven't heard anything from DIAC :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭DeclanClune


    rightyabe wrote: »
    Would anyone here know if a company already sponsored workers on 457 visa how easy would it be for them to sponsor a person on a RSMS 187 visa. Apart from the RCB application that would be required would there be much more paperwork need on their part to prove stuff etc..

    Also on a 187 is a skills assessment required if the occupation is ANZCSO skill level 2?

    Cheers

    HI guys,

    We lodge a lot of these (and ENS) applications for people in Australia.
    A lot of paperwork is required for the employer under the RSMS route compared for example with the 457 visa.

    A skill assessment is required if you are applying via the direct entry stream. If you are applying for the RSMS visa under the temporary stream (applying on the back of a 457 visa) then no skill assessment is needed. But you need to work in Australia in your occupation for 2 years and at least 12 months with the current employer.

    Regards,
    Declan Clune


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭DeclanClune


    statina wrote: »
    Has anyone received good news regarding their application? Its now nearly 8 months since I submitted the application and I haven't heard anything from DIAC :(


    Hi Statina,

    If you applied for under the direct entry stream, then you are looking at about 9 months before things start to happen on your application so hang in there.

    We lodge a lot under the direct and temporary streams and the most recent temporary stream application was was on 7 Jan 2013 and granted a case officer yesterday !

    So there is a massive difference in applying under the direct or temporary streams.

    Regards,
    Declan Clune


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭statina


    Declan, does the 9 months just include after you submit the application? Its 10 months since my nomination was submitted. I applied through direct entry. Am so frustrated at this stage :(


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