Dummys guide to DIY Calving Camera

just do it

ferger1 wrote: »

Well lads, im fairly new to this forum, but id like a bit of advice when it comes to calving cameras and the set up id require.

I live approxiametly 3 miles from my calving shed with no line of sight between the shed and the house. I have vodafone mobile broadband at the house, which can be hit and miss (no phone line at the house). As far as i know there is a '3' mast quite close to the farm.

I would like to be able to view the camera from my smartphone and laptop.

Im not upto speed with how this could work, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

By the sounds of it you'd have to get an internet connection at the shed. Either mobile, satellite or fixed line broadband.

ferger1

just do it wrote: »

By the sounds of it you'd have to get an internet connection at the shed. Either mobile, satellite or fixed line broadband.

Thanks Just do it,

Would mobile broadband be good enough for the calving camera or would it be more relaible to go with satellite or fixed line broadband?

I dont mind the investment, but the last thing i want is an unreliable service!

just do it

ferger1 wrote: »

Thanks Just do it,

Would mobile broadband be good enough for the calving camera or would it be more relaible to go with satellite or fixed line broadband?

I dont mind the investment, but the last thing i want is an unreliable service!

I'm not an expert ferger, but I don't think mobile broadband is as good. Having said that it's location dependent. If it worked it would probably be the cheapest most convenient option. Do they still give the 2 week trial period with a dongle? That would be one way to find out.

If you don't mind the investment get one of the professionals to set it up for you e.g. hawkeye

ceannfort

I have 4 cameras wired back to the house to a splitter box with coax cable and on my televisions. I want to remote view and to add another wireless camera can this be done.

pakalasa

Ok, I'm interested in this also. A few Q's.:rolleyes:

- Is the Foscam F188918W suitable for outdoor, as in a cattle shed? Will condensation not destroy it?
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/170642979572?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
- Also, will a plastic dome be enough to protect it? Can anyone recommend one?

vanderbadger

pakalasa wrote: »

Ok, I'm interested in this also. A few Q's.:rolleyes:

- Is the Foscam F188918W suitable for outdoor, as in a cattle shed? Will condensation not destroy it?
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/170642979572?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
- Also, will a plastic dome be enough to protect it? Can anyone recommend one?

i know im like a cracked record here and loads of people will say they are using them successfully but i would say those 50 to 60 euro cameras are only good for testing about with or as a backup camera, long term they wont last, you know how dirty cattle sheds are and the image off them isnt the greatest to begin with and they have a ****e zoom if they have a zoom at all. I would buy one just to see how you go at setting up your system and if successful i would look for a better camera with protective dome

GT95

Guys, to use a static IP address do you need to a have a fixed line access to internet, e.g. eircom telephone line?

I'm looking to install a calving camera in a shed that will allow access through the internet?

I have located one that can use wireless boradband without an IP address at http://www.agricamera.ie/www.agricamera.ie/Home.html but its €480.

From what I can see on-line there are much wider options & cheaper available if one can use an IP address?

Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Thanks,

vanderbadger

GT95 wrote: »

Guys, to use a static IP address do you need to a have a fixed line access to internet, e.g. eircom telephone line?

I'm looking to install a calving camera in a shed that will allow access through the internet?

I have located one that can use wireless boradband without an IP address at http://www.agricamera.ie/www.agricamera.ie/Home.html but its €480.

From what I can see on-line there are much wider options & cheaper available if one can use an IP address?

Can anyone point me in the right direction.
Thanks,

Not necessarily, I have fixed IP from wireless broadband. I think agri camera just take the setup hassle out for you but their cameras wild still be using an IP address

ferger1

just do it wrote: »

I'm not an expert ferger, but I don't think mobile broadband is as good. Having said that it's location dependent. If it worked it would probably be the cheapest most convenient option. Do they still give the 2 week trial period with a dongle? That would be one way to find out.

If you don't mind the investment get one of the professionals to set it up for you e.g. hawkeye

Thanks just do it, im not sure whether they still give the 2 week trial period, but if i was going to go down the mobile broadband route i was thinking of taking the sim card out of my dongle for my laptop, use this sim card in the 3g broadband router connected to the camera. And then use my smartphone to view the camera. (or laptop from work)

Would i be right in saying this would work on a trial basis, and if not, try another network provider for the internet connection at the shed.

There is a company in england where you can get an industrial 3g broadband router, which is alot more poweful than a normal one and you can also attach a high gain attenna outside the shed to improve the reception further.

caseman

ferger1 wrote: »

Well lads, im fairly new to this forum, but id like a bit of advice when it comes to calving cameras and the set up id require.

I live approxiametly 3 miles from my calving shed with no line of sight between the shed and the house. I have vodafone mobile broadband at the house, which can be hit and miss (no phone line at the house). As far as i know there is a '3' mast quite close to the farm.

I would like to be able to view the camera from my smartphone and laptop.

Im not upto speed with how this could work, so any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Im just after setting up a wirrless 3g camera bought an ebay for E170.
How they work is put a phone sim card in the 3g camera either three or vodaphone, their the only ones that do video networking.
Then its just a case of making a video call of your phone.
You'll need 3g coverage where the camera is and where your making the call from.
These cameras can move left right up down and zoom.
Picture no the the best but you get what you pay for

kevthegaff

lads im getting 6.60 mbps download and 0.70 upload from my toggle, would this be good enough for a wireless ptz camera

just do it

kevthegaff wrote: »

lads im getting 6.60 mbps download and 0.70 upload from my toggle, would this be good enough for a wireless ptz camera

Beats my eircom broadband by a long shot!

just do it

ferger1 wrote: »

Thanks just do it, im not sure whether they still give the 2 week trial period, but if i was going to go down the mobile broadband route i was thinking of taking the sim card out of my dongle for my laptop, use this sim card in the 3g broadband router connected to the camera. And then use my smartphone to view the camera. (or laptop from work)

Would i be right in saying this would work on a trial basis, and if not, try another network provider for the internet connection at the shed.

There is a company in england where you can get an industrial 3g broadband router, which is alot more poweful than a normal one and you can also attach a high gain attenna outside the shed to improve the reception further.

I'm no expert in this area but I'd guess the 3 things you need to check to see if this will work are:
1) check have you 3G reception at the site with your dongle in the laptop,
2) check download speed with speedtest.net, and
2) check the sim card isn't locked to the dongle and will work in the router.

Juniorhurler

Am I right in thinking that the nanostations referred to in the previous posts are used to send the internet signal from the house to the shed therefore doing away with the need for a dongle?

Secondly, I am presuming that you connect the nanostation to your router and point it to where you want to send the signal. Say on the shed with another nano tied to a downpipe. This receives the signal and can connect to the camera via cat 5 cable.

Can a nano be plugged straight into a wall socket or do I need power over ethernet. Same question for the camera.

I am 700m from the shed at the house. Could all of this work at this distance?

vanderbadger

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the nanostations referred to in the previous posts are used to send the internet signal from the house to the shed therefore doing away with the need for a dongle?

Secondly, I am presuming that you connect the nanostation to your router and point it to where you want to send the signal. Say on the shed with another nano tied to a downpipe. This receives the signal and can connect to the camera via cat 5 cable.

Can a nano be plugged straight into a wall socket or do I need power over ethernet. Same question for the camera.

I am 700m from the shed at the house. Could all of this work at this distance?

think of the nanostation as entending your network, if your network has internet then that will also be extended, yes it work over that distance if you have a line of sight, the nanos will run on power over ethernet but come with a ps, depends on the camera you buy, some are poe, some arent, you can buy small poe switches on amazon

just do it

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the nanostations referred to in the previous posts are used to send the internet signal from the house to the shed therefore doing away with the need for a dongle?

Secondly, I am presuming that you connect the nanostation to your router and point it to where you want to send the signal. Say on the shed with another nano tied to a downpipe. This receives the signal and can connect to the camera via cat 5 cable.

Can a nano be plugged straight into a wall socket or do I need power over ethernet. Same question for the camera.

I am 700m from the shed at the house. Could all of this work at this distance?

You're spot on. Line of sight is key

Juniorhurler

just do it wrote: »

You're spot on. Line of sight is key

Just checked my line of sight, there are the tops.of a grove of evergreen trees, maybe 10 or so obscuring line of sight. Would these stop the signal getting through? If so I may be snookered as they are neighbours.

pakalasa

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Just checked my line of sight, there are the tops.of a grove of evergreen trees, maybe 10 or so obscuring line of sight. Would these stop the signal getting through? If so I may be snookered as they are neighbours.

Could you put the receiver up on a high pole at the shed and maybe the tranmitter up on the house chimney?

Juniorhurler

pakalasa wrote: »

Could you put the receiver up on a high pole at the shed and maybe the tranmitter up on the house chimney?

Ya I want to get up on the on a ladder on the highest point of the gable of the house over the weekend and have a look. It might just make line of sight from there. Here's hoping.

vanderbadger

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Just checked my line of sight, there are the tops.of a grove of evergreen trees, maybe 10 or so obscuring line of sight. Would these stop the signal getting through? If so I may be snookered as they are neighbours.

hard to say, they are supposed to work over big distances so normally i would think 700m would be no bother to them, if the trees arent too dense i would say you might be ok

pakalasa

Foscam FI8910W and FI8918W Review & Comparison (HD)

The F18910W is a newer and better camera. Same price range.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADIUhvLQ_Hc

agricamera

pakalasa wrote: »

Could you put the receiver up on a high pole at the shed and maybe the tranmitter up on the house chimney?

You want to be a bit careful with lightning when mounting it up high, on a building it is relatively sheltered (plenty other stuff to hit first).

Using decent shielded cable will help.

At 700m you will struggle without line of sight, but probably don't need perfect line of sight.

Its a shame 900Mhz band is not allowed in the UK, then obstructions would be no problem at all, just blast straight through them like they do in the US :cool:

just do it

Juniorhurler wrote: »

Ya I want to get up on the on a ladder on the highest point of the gable of the house over the weekend and have a look. It might just make line of sight from there. Here's hoping.

The other option is to bounce it via a third nanostation, assuming that is possible

agricamera

just do it wrote: »

The other option is to bounce it via a third nanostation, assuming that is possible

you would need 2 more, but yes, possible.

keep going

seems to be a good bit of camera expertise on here so i have a query.thinking of putting in cameras into calving pen plus the cubicle house beside it where i put the girls close to calving to keep an eye on them and they are easy to move plus spending less time in the calving pen =less sh*t.so thinking of putting in 4 cameras in the house wired in to dwelling house which is close by.but a buddy suggested while im at it to put a camera looking on to yard and dwelling house from this shed which would go into some sort of recorder which given what im hearing seems very wise.would i need to run 2 cables or would i be able to set it up with one camera to recorder and the other 4 to the tele (or computer maybe in time to come) in the one cable.thanks.by the way did you know cctv evidence is not admissable unless you had a sign up to say there was a camera there

AntrimGlens

Would any of ye go for the ultra360 agri camera if your were getting 40% grant on it. Came home yesterday to find my grant offer letter from the Farm Modernisation Programme and i had applied for two calving/lambing cameras? Also getting 40% on new crush gate, calving gate and Eid reader. Have a bit of research to do methinks!

JCB1

Lofty0990 wrote: »

Anyone view remote ip camera from Nokia Lumia ( freeken windows phone) ?

Any one know if this is possible ?

Also - can you conect the Foscam wirelessly to the Nano Station or do you need to cable it ?

just do it

AntrimGlens wrote: »

Would any of ye go for the ultra360 agri camera if your were getting 40% grant on it. Came home yesterday to find my grant offer letter from the Farm Modernisation Programme and i had applied for two calving/lambing cameras? Also getting 40% on new crush gate, calving gate and Eid reader. Have a bit of research to do methinks!

Go for it! Now that I have one I'm not sure I could go without it. I've the cheap version and would definitely recommend getting a better quality one, especially when you can get it for 60% the cost. (can't vouch for the camera model you mention though)

just do it

JCB1 wrote: »

Any one know if this is possible ?

Given all I enter in my android is a url address, I don't see why not

Also - can you conect the Foscam wirelessly to the Nano Station or do you need to cable it ?

I've it connected with a cat5 cable. However there is an aerial on the back of the camera so it probably could be connected wirelessly.

agricamera

vanderbadger wrote: »

Not necessarily, I have fixed IP from wireless broadband. I think agri camera just take the setup hassle out for you but their cameras wild still be using an IP address

Our Standard AgriCameras don't need fixed IP address at all, we've got some clever technology where you can just plug the camera into your router, download the app, type in your email address / password and your away. No need to touch the router :cool: and it works even if all inbound ports are blocked by your ISP.

The U360 aren't quite as clever yet but we are working on it.